Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2762864]Happened to me at HK club and the street.

In may case some gals don't like dudes with too dark skin- that's ok with me as long as it is a small minority that rejects me. It's their choice.

But in Bangkok the reject ratio was too high. So not going back there again.[/QUOTE]It's definitely an issue in Thailand. To the point that some won't even be admitted to certain clubs or are asked to pay for a drink in advance if they are admitted (on the assumption that they are cheap and won't spend any money once inside unless required to do so in advance). Very distasteful and despicable treatment!

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2762833]Wasn't that crowded. Captain Solo's "bro" table was reclaimed by its heir apparent. He had his stacks of singles flying around. Lots of food as usual and liquor that wasn't being drunk. I don't know why anyone wants that spot anyway too risky of a sucker punch and no privacy I'd rather be against the wall. My masero got my free drink, and when I asked for the 20 singles, since I gave him 20 dollar bill, he looked at me in disgust. Every waiter knows when I give them a 20 and point my finger as in "one" knows I'm asking for singles. He just thought I was tipping him 20 bucks. Then when he comes back with 20 singles he's disgusted all over with his 1 dollar tip. You guys tip too much of these guys are expecting more than a dollar. No girls flirted with me in hk In about 50 minutes. Adelitas was quiet, tropical quiet. All my reliable girls for fichas have moved on in life, taking the fun out of it for me.[/QUOTE]The mesero was clearly asking you to give him the middle finger. It's the HK fist bump. I think a lot of tourist are too big of a pussy to say no to the disgusted pressure. You should have told the cretin that you'd tip him the entire $20 if he lets you fuck his mother.

[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2762864]Happened to me at HK club and the street.

In may case some gals don't like dudes with too dark skin- that's ok with me as long as it is a small minority that rejects me. It's their choice.

But in Bangkok the reject ratio was too high. So not going back there again.[/QUOTE]LOL, well being black may or may NOT have been the reason. Could very easily have been something else in some or most of those cases. Several of the girls actually prefer black guys / guys with darker skin. Everyone has their preferences I guess.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2762048]I never pay anyone anyway unless I'm already having 4 drinks with her and she's practically having sex with me in the bar and I feel like I owe her some sex.[/QUOTE]This is too funny! We never owe these tutes sex bro! What we owe is [B]money[/B]!

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2762976]LOL, well being black may or may NOT have been the reason. Could very easily have been something else in some or most of those cases. Several of the girls actually prefer black guys / guys with darker skin. Everyone has their preferences I guess.[/QUOTE]Guys who haven't gone to tijuna need to know, it's gona be hard to find a girl who doesn't want your money just because of skin color. 2 weeks ago I was sitting in hk bar stool, the guy next to me was my age, in dame physical shape dressed even more casually than me, and was black. I'm white guy. Every girl stopped to flirt with him. They ignored me. I asked him if he knew them all already he said no. I think he felt bad they were ignoring me because he tried to come up with reasons that weren't realistic.

How much is too much? A dollar tip? That is being a little cheap if they bring it to you. If they bring me the drink I will usually at least tip 2 or 3 dollars if it's more than one drink. If I get the drink myself like a 4 dollar beer I'll just give the bartender a $5 bill. That's just me tho and I've never had bad service.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2762976]LOL, well being black may or may NOT have been the reason. Could very easily have been something else in some or most of those cases. Several of the girls actually prefer black guys / guys with darker skin. Everyone has their preferences I guess.[/QUOTE]There was a discussion about this once. The problem may not be the color of the skin but the size and length of the penis of black and dark guys, because there is a general opinion that it is huge. So in general, small and petite girls from Thailand and Tijuana may be afraid of painful intercourse.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2762833] Then when he comes back with 20 singles he's disgusted all over with his 1 dollar tip. You guys tip too much of these guys are expecting more than a dollar. No girls flirted with me in hk In about 50 minutes. Adelitas was quiet, tropical quiet. All my reliable girls for fichas have moved on in life, taking the fun out of it for me.[/QUOTE]Glad you stuck to your principles and gave him $1 tip.

If the mesmero was not satisfied. That's too bad.

Didn't you take the initiative to approach women you found attractive?

As you know more women on Thursday nights. More likely to have women approach you.

I was so happy to see that nothing much had changed regarding the gals approaching or letting you flirt (for tip).

Of course the mesmeros are very aggressive in immediately asking for a drink. So you need to be thick skinned and say NO!

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2762785]If the new girls are asking $150, what exactly is the standard rate now? $100 or $120?

I saw that the room prices have gone up to $30 as well.

F'and inflation man.[/QUOTE]Getting ready to make a Tijuana run in December. Is $150 the new going rate?

[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2762785]If the new girls are asking $150, what exactly is the standard rate now? $100 or $120?

I saw that the room prices have gone up to $30 as well.

F'and inflation man.[/QUOTE]It's gouging, it ain't inflation. The good and the bad of it is these girls services aren't a necessity like other things. If the new norm becomes over $100, people are going to head elsewhere for mongering.

[QUOTE=Rambo1969;2763108]Glad you stuck to your principles and gave him $1 tip.

If the mesmero was not satisfied. That's too bad.

Didn't you take the initiative to approach women you found attractive?

As you know more women on Thursday nights. More likely to have women approach you.

I was so happy to see that nothing much had changed regarding the gals approaching or letting you flirt (for tip).

Of course the mesmeros are very aggressive in immediately asking for a drink. So you need to be thick skinned and say NO![/QUOTE]I don't approach girls because I'd have to buy them a drink within 15 seconds. I only like girls who walk up to me and start treating me like their boyfriend. At that point I'll buy them a drink. Last night I went back for 1 hour. A girl jumped in my lap and was dancing without talking to me. So I buy her a drink. For 2nd drink move upstairs for privacy sit at a table and a mesero with menu of food comes right over. She wants food. I'm in a brothel not date night. How am I gona order food. Sit with her for 30 minutes waiting for the food, 20 minutes to eat it, the waiters gonna take 30 minutes to get the food and want a 6 dollar tip minimum, then 15 for her food, and how many drinks am I gona buy her for this 40 minutes? I said no to the Madero 6 times no to her 8 times, she proceeded to finish her drink in under 1 minute. So that drink you buy a girl may be only 1 minute if she gets upset with you. I'm not buying any more drinks for these girls. I've done everything I can. I've told them ahead time sex not possible so they stop begging I told them ahead time only one drink so they don't slap me like one girl did when I wouldn't buy 2nd drink. I tell them beer or juice only no expensive drink. I tip the mesero. I rarely go upstairs to those tables but that upstairs was the most packed place I've seen in my life there was endless male waiters I see more woman in Tijuana gay Bara then I see in Hong Kong when I'm surrounded by waiters. I only get my drinks now from bartender and I tip him. I'm done with these waiter guys just 100% ruin the experience.

Caliguy.

New girls are giddy with recruiters' promise of making $150 sessions in HK, so they ask for that much, some even ask for $200. After spending a few days and getting rejected a few times, they will lower their aims to $100 like the regulars who have been working months or years.

When offered $80 or $90, about half of the girls will feel offended and refuse to negotiate. If the girls are exceptionally hot, you can always smile, make amend, invite them to drink and go with their rates. The other half will likely agree to $80-90.

Regular guys in HK know many girls who would do multi hour-sessions BB for $80-100. If you collect tel of local girls, many could not make enough money in bars and just quit. They would hook up with guys outside of the bars and do long sessions BB for cheap. A few would sit on buses for 3, 4 hours to Tijuana to do a long session for $100.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2762955]It's definitely an issue in Thailand. To the point that some won't even be admitted to certain clubs or are asked to pay for a drink in advance if they are admitted (on the assumption that they are cheap and won't spend any money once inside unless required to do so in advance). Very distasteful and despicable treatment![/QUOTE]Only seen this with Indians in Thailand, but due to bad reputation of barfining a bargirl and then 3-5 dudes waiting in the room thinking they have 1 hour of her time. I didn't see any other issues with other races, but then again I usually hung out in Pattaya and Phuket.

Also bros that want change, should go to the bar and the bartender would appreciate the $1 for changing out dollars. I usually change out $40-$80 for ones. The only time I was ripped off in HK was giving a mesero a $20 for change and then never saw him again. Lesson learned.

I couldnt imagine rates going to $150 at HK, especially in these times as we are heading into a recession. Im sure they would try $100-$120, but it hasnt changed much since decade or more ago when it was $60-$80. Then again, prices for rentals in TJ are heading to Midwest U.S. territory.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2763281]Only seen this with Indians in Thailand, but due to bad reputation of barfining a bargirl and then 3-5 dudes waiting in the room thinking they have 1 hour of her time. I didn't see any other issues with other races, but then again I usually hung out in Pattaya and Phuket.[/QUOTE]It's personal. You see, it happened to me four times over a three week trip (twice in Bangkok and twice in Pattaya, but never in Phuket). And I'm not Indian. And no bros waiting back in my room for a cheap gang bang. On two of the instances in question I was denied outright with the "members only" bullshit excuse. Then twice I was asked to buy a drink before I could gain admittance. The first time I agreed, but the second time I refused and went elsewhere. So take it from someone who knows from direct experience. I will never return to Thailand to monger and no skin off my teeth since I don't even like Asian women that much. In fact, the hottest girl I was with was a Thai, Amerasian / Eurasian, Jennifer Anniston look-a-like found in Phuket hehehe! Had two hot sessions with her plus hot make out sessions in the club (hands all in her panties and she put them in there LOL).

[QUOTE=TheCane;2763285]It's personal. You see, it happened to me four times over a three week trip (twice in Bangkok and twice in Pattaya, but never in Phuket). And I'm not Indian. And no bros waiting back in my room for a cheap gang bang. So take it from someone who knows from direct experience. I will never return to Thailand to monger and no skin off my teeth since I don't even like Asian women that much. In fact, the hottest girl I was with was a Thai, Amerasian / Eurasian Jennifer Anniston look-a-like found in Phuket hehehe! Had two hot sessions with her plus hotbmake out sessions in the club (hands all in her panties and she put them in there LOL).[/QUOTE]They don't like white guys? Do tell about your experience.

I always thought I would be discriminated against in Thailand for other reasons but seeing that you were discriminated against is even more concerning. I would think you would do well in Thailand.