Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Nekama; 1247949]Hi Gents,

Long time monger who has just recently discovered this forum and looking forward to sharing some of my experiences throughout Europe, Latin America, the Carribean and Australia. I'm heading for Bangkok for the first time in a few weeks and have had a great time reading about all the pleasures that await me there. Thanks to all of your posts, I have put together a bit of a short list of all the places I want to visit but one thing that I haven't seen much discussion of is where to go for the absolute cheapest action. I'm not ashamed to admit that I enjoy dirt-cheap and sleazy encounters in back alleys, stairwells, unlit parks, back seat of cars etc. Places like Star of Light and the Kangaroo Club are definitely on my to-do list but I was wondering if anyone has any other recommendations for places for cheap and degrading action. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Ok dirt cheap. Not ashamed to have encounters in parks.

Try looking up the Pattaya reports. Way back. An look for a place know as the woods I think it is just what you are looking for.

One member hear had an encounter there and she just take a bottle of water! All you can have for about 200 Thai Bart about $6. 50 aud

Have fun an look it up.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss;1248037]Seems like you and others take this stuff personally. Maybe you are sympathetic about small penis?[/QUOTE]We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1248056]We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.[/QUOTE]OK, Finally, that is what I am looking for. A man who is not so serious and has a sense of humor! I love it. HAHA. Thanks

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1247915]Just as somebody pointed out that thai girls in european RLD are not eprfomring thebest service, it might be that japanese girls in US and HKG are on the same strategy.

They are chosen for being exotic (first) , more than for service (second). Just as the stunners often do not deliver too since they are appealing to customers for the look and they have enough customers, whilst a less beautifyl one has to win the customer and deliver a good service.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.

So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA

I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.

I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".

In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.

When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.

One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!

So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.

What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.

So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.

Just my 2 cents.

Happy life.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1248072]I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.

So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA[/QUOTE]Check out Humaniplex, ******** and MyRedbook. They are 3 popular sites here in California. The girls are not like that at all. Most are very attractive and young. They usually charge from $160-$240 an hour. These girls are brought in from places like Thailand, China and yes, Japan on short work Visas. Most cannot speak much English.

I have always had great experiences with the Thais and Chinese girls.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1248072]I'm not sure about in Europe, but in the USA, they bring old hags, usually mid 30s to late 40's, and they always say they're much younger LOL. They charge $200. Per hour.

So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA[/QUOTE]In Belgium the standard price for Thai massage is 80 EUR / hr and that includes a body-to-body massage and happy ending either a HJ or BBBJ and some do CIM too for the same price. FS is rarely offered though.

[QUOTE=Irjle; 1248079]I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.

I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".

In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.

When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.

One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!

So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.

What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.

So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.

Just my 2 cents.

Happy life.[/QUOTE]Very well stated. Stereotypes develop for a reason, but we need to remember that there are always exceptions to the rule.

[QUOTE=Irjle; 1248079]I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.

[snip]

Just my 2 cents.

Happy life.[/QUOTE]You should really post more.

Excellent report, and I enjoyed your 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1247946]From one 60+ to another, nice report.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

Maybe we should have our own thread, something like "old farts" or so? Just joking.

[QUOTE=Luvpuss; 1248037]Seems like you and others take this stuff personally. Maybe you are sympathetic about small penis?

I am wrong. Japan women are the greatest in the world. Much better than Thai lady. The mongering is plentiful and full GFE. It truly sounds like a wonderful place. Everyone should go there and have a great time. Maybe even go into the Japan forum and try to convince all the Japan men coming to Thailand that this is the case. Good luck. Thanks for the info.

I will be looking forward to reading the Tokyo forum about the great time you had.[/QUOTE]If you had read my post (s) , you would have noticed that I never suggested superiority of any group over nother. I actually like both thai and japanese (and other women). I prefectly accept and understand that many guys like most Thai women, and was naively thinking that the same would apply to my personal taste for japanse women. It is absurd to suggest that one ethnic group of women are superioir to another, (except for those sharing racist ideology). But not you, of course.

Why is this paranoid comment about Japan coming in to this thread, I don't know.

Be my guest and visit the Japan threads, but, please, do not post there, and start comparisons with God knows who. We, in the Japan thread, are a nice group of people interested in sharing info on japan, so don't come and pollute it, thanks in advance. And continue enjoying Thailand, in spite of the invasion of small yellow men taking away your hottes babes

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1248056]We do take it personally. I'm a smelly Indian with a 2 inch dick, Dreams is a Nigerian crook with a 10 incher, and obviously you are an arrogant farang.[/QUOTE]No no, I am not just a Nigerain crook, I am quarter arrogant Frenchman, quarter smelly Indian, quarter small dick Jap, and quarter nigerian.

Now the one million dollar question: what is the size of my (crooked) penis?

[QUOTE=Irjle; 1248079]I rarely post in this forum which I very much enjoy reading, not least because lots of interesting info and opinions are on display. I believe some stereotypes I read here are funny, some insulting, some deeply true and some false.

I have real info regarding the "farang surcharge".

In 1990 I was a top manager in a big Japanese firm. I once travelled to Bangkok and tried to enter a club for Japanese in Soi Thaniya, only to be denied entrance. I showed my business card with the firm logo and name, but was bounced again. Same in another venue. Same happened in the lobby of Ariston Hotel, where a "Member club" for Japanese businessmen was active. Having millions of other choices, I just laughed and walked away.

When I was back home I asked my Japanese secretary, an adorable and passionate lady BTW, why that happened. Answer:"Well some Japanese are racist but the case here is that they feel they are physically inferior to Westerners and do not like to be next to them in front of nice ladies. Also, girls prefer Japanese customers, although they can be very rude and humiliate girls, because they pay much much more than Westerners." I asked her how she knew this last detail. She told me she saw the expense notes of Japanese managers in Bangkok and they were just outrageous compared to mine or to other European managers. Remember, it was 1990, top of Japanese financial power the world over.

One year later a Thai girl who worked in a Japanese-only sauna in Bangkok, to the same question answered "2, 3.4" that, as you all know by now, means "2 minutes. 3 inches. 4000 baht": this when LT for a top girl was 1000 baht for me!

So you have two very different reasons concurring to the same result. And I can only trust my Jap secretary, who was very smart and never lied to me in many years.

What happens today in Poseidon or elsewhere is just the same story.

So some stereotypes, some rumors and some urban legends are true after all, which does not mean we should just take all of them for true and / or fair of course.

Just my 2 cents.

Happy life.[/QUOTE]Very well written and very true.

Problem with stereotypes is not what they say, but what some wicked people use them for.

I also had a bad experience when go to Osaka, Japan about 3 years ago. No club allowed me in, they said "Japanese Only". How come in our country we never ban japanese men, but got such discrimination in their country.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1248072]So even if you over pay in LOS, you're still getting one heck of a bargain compared to the micro AMPs in the USA[/QUOTE]We all know that and the mongerer price police tries to discourage this practice of overpaying (by the local standards) as anyhow it is a fraction of the home bill.

I don't agree with price police as at the end it is my money and my entertainment.

In addition, the influence that (ISG) price police can have on the broader range of mongerers in BKK (or elsewhere) is unsignificant and their effect is irrelevant.

Given the thousands of mongerers in Thailand (but this apply to each country, of course) and the few hundreds being here, one can see that the influence. Even if successful at a rate of 80% is really worthless to the price standards (set by the mongerers)

Having said that it is always good to know what the others are paying.

A) to set yourself a cost of a decent limit and an orientation idea.

Be) pay more but in awareness you are doing so, if you decided to do so, aiming also to a top service.

See) try to stay within the local reasonable pricing, aware that a bit more is the "farang surcharge" they try to grab and if a few bucks make them happy. Better than hard negotiations ending nowhere (even if it is also proved soem girls accept the mongerer price and then are still happy troopers)

The) not appear as a cheap charlie as that is not always the best recipe for quality.

As someone said, if you take holidays and want to have fun. Don't be a cheap charlie just for the sake of collecting many girls on the low price level and exhibit that as a trophee.

Whilst overpayer are said to be destroying the market also cheap charlies are damaging the market as that becomes then the standrd the girls think we farang are.

So there wil lbe a battle between those who pay the less money and those who deliver the lowest service.

Nothing to tell home about.