Manila

Thanks M. G for a concise and clear analyse of the M project.

I will surely stick to that way.

Vic.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2284171]Be in a hotel in Manila ready to go (none of this "I'm coming next month" bullshit).

Log on after 10 pm.

Copy paste that you're in town and want to meet for fun tonight.

Wait 10 minutes for girls to read and reply.

Go have a shower while she's in the taxi.

Same for day time but a lot more civilians online. To weed them out just be super direct early on e. g asking if they are ok with bare back or anal gets to the point quickly. Or just keep the WA numbers from the night time girls if your ok with repeats.

Enjoy, G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2284171]Be in a hotel in Manila ready to go (none of this "I'm coming next month" bullshit).

Log on after 10 pm.

Copy paste that you're in town and want to meet for fun tonight.
[/QUOTE]So your logging on after 10 pm, have to wait for the girl to respond and then there's the time chatting. Then comes the time in the taxi, then she finally arrives at what time? Midnight? I'm fine with all of that as long as she doesn't say she has to leave early in the morning for work and she's ok with being up all night fucking. I'm ten to twelve hours ahead and when I was in Thailand I found it easier to just go to sleep at 7 am after grabbing the hotels free breakfast (maids didn't care much for my sleep habits).

BM,

I was specifically answering the OPs request on how to find feelancers online without going to bars or hitting the street. He indicated he was getting the run around from "good girls" and wanted sure fire instructions.

See the second part of my post for daytime modifications.

I'm struggling to remember the last time I had an online girl do a runner. I have had girls prefer multiple pops over one continuous all night session though. As usual, if it's a deal breaker for you, make it clear before she is in the taxi.

Obviously, if you go outside Shadow's restrictions there are a million ways to meet good and bad girls in PH.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2284215]So your logging on after 10 pm, have to wait for the girl to respond and then there's the time chatting. Then comes the time in the taxi, then she finally arrives at what time? Midnight? I'm fine with all of that as long as she doesn't say she has to leave early in the morning for work and she's ok with being up all night fucking. I'm ten to twelve hours ahead and when I was in Thailand I found it easier to just go to sleep at 7 am after grabbing the hotels free breakfast (maids didn't care much for my sleep habits).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shadow394;2283914]I'm not interested in beating around the Bush. I'm sick and tired of dicking about on pinalove. I'm just looking for a freelancer and I don't really want to spend a lot of time and energy walking the street.[/QUOTE]PM me as can supply a long list if you need.

Look forward to the PM.

I'm glad some found my recent Carriedo reports useful. Most of that was based on stuff I found here from a few years ago. I hope you have better luck than I did.

Just to add, I was also at a strip joint on Recto, after turning in from Quezon ave. There are two or three of them with touts outside. There was no entrance fee but I was there during the day, I don't know if it's different at night. It was 120 for two unopened san mig pilsens. Girls are not terrible, they actually had tall ones, around mid 30's but with flabby stomachs and thick legs I'm not really into. Mostly just standing and dancing on the stage. Some were good though. One even did proper stripping on the pole, hanging off it and doing some acrobatic moves landing on the stage in a split.

Quiet crowd of locals during the day, around four of the eight or nine tables were occupied. I don't know if the girls can be barfined or what the system is, I did see one or two talking to some of the guys at their tables, I politely waved off the first one that came by because I wanted to get settled. Nobody else came to my table in the 25 minutes or so that I was there. I would have liked to have stayed longer but the bass was too loud that day and I did not have time to make a return or try the other joints if they were any better. I would have liked to if I had the chance.

At grandpop. There is no shortage of good short time places in the area. Two or three sogos, Kamagung is also nearby, that's actually where I found the first sw but she made some excuse about the price being more expensive that day. In my previous experiences in Cebu, the bigger chains don't always allow streetwalkers. I don't know if that was the case here. Or maybe they have deals with the cheapo short time rooms to get a cut of the fee, 100 or 150, whatever it was seemed excessive for the type of room.

At vic. Yeah, definitely no need to add additional charges should you get into a scrap with locals by bringing a knife. I don't think the situation I had was as bad as it was in my head at the time. My first time there, unfamiliar place, wired from additional coffees due to delayed flight, punched a guy just an hour or so before, and the prospect of losing my watch to some addicts who may trade it for 500 p worth of meth, made me additionally paranoid that night.

Looking back, it was quite a well lit area, lots of different paths leading in and out I could have taken in case I needed to make a run for it. Still, not a place I would recommend for your first time so insist on booking at one a place near the main roads.

The other day I was looking for a document in my home safe and came across 5,0000 Phil pesos (about $90. USD) that I brought back from my trip a year and a half ago and forgot about completely. I never planned on returning to the Phil but now I am thinking that this is sign for me to look into a brief visit.

So how are things in makati and AC and Subic Bay? Girls and costs and quality?

Any recent experiences would be great and just may entice me to visit again! Or do my Phil pesos just stay in my safe and gather dust, hehehe.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2284574]The other day I was looking for a document in my home safe and came across 5,0000 Phil pesos (about $90. USD) that I brought back from my trip a year and a half ago and forgot about completely. I never planned on returning to the Phil but now I am thinking that this is sign for me to look into a brief visit.[/QUOTE]I put money, business cards, SIM card package, power outlet adapter, etc from the countries that I frequent into a ziploc bag and put them into the drawer of my safe. So when it is time to go I just grab that country's bag.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2284574]The other day I was looking for a document in my home safe and came across 5,0000 Phil pesos (about $90. USD) that I brought back from my trip a year and a half ago and forgot about completely. I never planned on returning to the Phil but now I am thinking that this is sign for me to look into a brief visit.
[/QUOTE]I woke up today. Surely that's a good sign I need to go back. 😂.

G.

P.S. Misplacing 5 k is hardly breaking the bank but be careful returning with too much foreign currency, thinking you will keep it for later.

I've returned to a couple of countries that had changed banknote series while I was away and no longer accepted my old notes.

Hi Goons,

I read with great interest your exploits in the jungle of Carriedo area. An area seldom conquered and documented on the forum, either due to the difficulty of finding good "specimens" or due to the social complexities of the zone concerned.

You exploits are always welcome IMHO.

Thanks,

Victor.

[QUOTE=Goons;2284343]I'm glad some found my recent Carriedo reports useful. Most of that was based on stuff I found here from a few years ago. I hope you have better luck than I did.

Just to add, I was also at a strip joint on Recto, after turning in from Quezon ave. There are two or three of them with touts outside. There was no entrance fee but I was there during the day, I don't know if it's different at night. It was 120 for two unopened san mig pilsens. Girls are not terrible, they actually had tall ones, around mid 30's but with flabby stomachs and thick legs I'm not really into. Mostly just standing and dancing on the stage. Some were good though. One even did proper stripping on the pole, hanging off it and doing some acrobatic moves landing on the stage in a split..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sammon;2257271]
If you are in a rich mentality you can try Burgos street in Makati. Plenty of good looking girls there. It is high end. A night will cost upwards of 15000 pesos. Roughly an hour by taxi.[/QUOTE]Some newbie questions. What would consider the standard market rate for these higher end girls for LT? Are they considered "escort" quality, as in have at least some college education, able to hold intelligent conversation etc? Where would one usually find them, on the street? In the bar? In the surrounding clubs?

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2255008]I feel your pain Aviator, but I keep returning to Manila (Kojax, Bottoms, Plan be, Cotton Club) and not cheaper AC because I like MNL girls so much more plus it is not as expensive as it initially begins because repeat girls give me price perks for my continuing commerce. So why do I like the MNL girls more? Here is one simple example that might explain things in graphical terms dealing with menage a trois:

In MNL all my repeat girls offer me real menage a trois if I want it. Simultaneous threesomes eg where girl #1 rides my face while girl #2 sucks my dick, then after the switch girl #1 (primed and naturally lubed) rides my dick while girl #2 either makes out with me or rides my face.

In AC, however, a threesome is usually a consecutive sexual 1 on 1 arrangement and not a real menage a trois. It's something of a joke really eg where girl #1 gets it on with me in bed while the girl #2 waits on the balcony or in the bathroom and then when I am done with girl #1, girl #2 comes in from the balcony and girl #1 goes out to the balcony. I can't recall ever having a simultaneous threesome in AC while in MNL the girls offer it to me all the time.

This is just one example of why I prefer MNL girls more. There are others reasons, but I won't go into that now. Suffice it to say, that while I have had some really nice girls in AC and very satisfying sessions with them, in my experiences the AC girls do not match the wild naughtiness or sexual sophistication of my Manila girls. It's not even close. For example, I will never forget my farewell 2015 MNL party that I had with my 2 favorite Bottoms girls and one of their girlfriends. A real 4 some. It was wild. It was as good as it gets. And that is why I like MNL girls best and put up with fairly outrageous metro prices, but like I said in the beginning of this post, my repeat girls do offer work arounds which offset the cost although not really because when a girl or girls come direct to your hotel room, you still pay for booze (a bottle), food, and entertainment if you decide to go out afterwards. Woman and money go hand in hand. There is no way around that. In fact the most expensive girls I have had are the ones that came to me for free, ha ha.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the threesome tips between AC and MNL girls. Looks like I should avoid threesome sessions while in AC.

I assume Kojax, Bottoms, Plan be, Cotton Club are all in Burgos area as in the more expensive ones, right? Trying to RTFF and do a bit of research before my trip there. Any ideas on what the standard rates are for these girls?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2284590]I put money, business cards, SIM card package, power outlet adapter, etc from the countries that I frequent into a ziploc bag and put them into the drawer of my safe. So when it is time to go I just grab that country's bag.[/QUOTE]What about your passport? Different passport for different bags? LOL.

[QUOTE=Ggekko2009;2284683]Appreciate the threesome tips between AC and MNL girls. Looks like I should avoid threesome sessions while in AC.

I assume Kojax, Bottoms, Plan be, Cotton Club are all in Burgos area as in the more expensive ones, right? Trying to RTFF and do a bit of research before my trip there. Any ideas on what the standard rates are for these girls?[/QUOTE]Kojax, PlanB and Bottoms are the top 3 clubs in P. Burgos Street, Makati, Manila. There are another dozen or so clubs on this street. But the quality and quantity won't be as good. When I was here last, I had a great time in Kojax and PlanB. There is another sister club of Kojax named XOXO, where the girls share duties through the week. XOXO is on the ground floor and Kojax is on Level 1. Now on to pricing. The barfine at Kojax, XOXO and PlanB is set at 3500 pesos. The girl will expect another 3000 - 4000 pesos for her company and services. It is wise to discuss everything upfront to avoid an uncomfortable and disappointing exchange later. Drinks at the club are priced at 300 pesos I think, can't remember now. So you are looking at a total of 10 k pesos on a single night. YMMV on the experience.

The other bunch of clubs like Cotton Club, Firehouse, Pitstop, etc. are at EDSA International Entertainment Complex in Pasay, Manila. The barfine here used to be 1950 pesos and the girls would expect 3000 - 4000 for their company and services. Drinks are just as expensive.

IMHO you should discuss the deliverables threadbare rather than simply focus on price. For me a great pop at 3000 is better than a dud at 1000.

And finally, getting from P Burgos to EDSA is a nightmare on a regular day, taking upwards of 30 minutes one way. So best to focus on one place on a single day.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2284728]Kojax, PlanB and Bottoms are the top 3 clubs in P. Burgos Street, Makati, Manila. There are another dozen or so clubs on this street. But the quality and quantity won't be as good. When I was here last, I had a great time in Kojax and PlanB. There is another sister club of Kojax named XOXO, where the girls share duties through the week. XOXO is on the ground floor and Kojax is on Level 1. Now on to pricing. The barfine at Kojax, XOXO and PlanB is set at 3500 pesos. The girl will expect another 3000 - 4000 pesos for her company and services. It is wise to discuss everything upfront to avoid an uncomfortable and disappointing exchange later. Drinks at the club are priced at 300 pesos I think, can't remember now. So you are looking at a total of 10 k pesos on a single night. YMMV on the experience.

The other bunch of clubs like Cotton Club, Firehouse, Pitstop, etc. are at EDSA International Entertainment Complex in Pasay, Manila. The barfine here used to be 1950 pesos and the girls would expect 3000 - 4000 for their company and services. Drinks are just as expensive.

IMHO you should discuss the deliverables threadbare rather than simply focus on price. For me a great pop at 3000 is better than a dud at 1000.

And finally, getting from P Burgos to EDSA is a nightmare on a regular day, taking upwards of 30 minutes one way. So best to focus on one place on a single day.[/QUOTE]Good input, but I have an update. The barfine at Kojax is 2900 pesos. And at the top three clubs, the girls are asking for 3000 pesos for ST and 5000 pesos for LT. All except for the barfine is subject to negotiation.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2284728] When I was here last, I had a great time in Kojax and PlanB. There is another sister club of Kojax named XOXO, where the girls share duties through the week. XOXO is on the ground floor and Kojax is on Level 1.[/QUOTE]Would someone please expand on the relationship between Kojax and XOXO.

Last time I was in town, I went several times only to find Kojax closed but XOXO full of gorgeous girls. I'm aware of Kojax reputation for beauties so am wondering how the clubs work.

Do they operate at different times / days? Share girls?

Cheers. G.