Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1709403]I guess I'll have to give Angeles City another try. I was there a year ago, but only for four days. Before Angeles, I'd spent five days in Manila (which was four days too many) and another five in Subic. I had some fun in Subic, but it really has little to recommend it IMHO. Then I was off to Boracay (which I liked), Bohol and Palawan. As for Angeles, I suppose four days is not enough. On the other hand, it was long enough for me to concur with your observations about there being very little to do there save monger.

Looking forward to your posts.[/QUOTE]You don't need to give Angeles another try. What you saw in four days was it. After that it is just plain boring unless you like watching tv which the locals do alot.

The next best place I guess would depend on how much you are willing to spend. Personally I liked Colombia second to Pattaya because the women are so f'ing hot, but there are other that would disagree.

My opinion may change after my trip to Brazil.

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1709299]I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?[/QUOTE]For budget value Angeles is good. An the Filipino girls are super sweet. Don't waste time looking for FL and just barfine a hottie from Pharoh or one of the better clubs. The door girls at Pharoh are super cute.

If you have money to spend I think Singapore is great. Lovely Viet girls at Orchard towers and the scene in Geyland is intriguing with some good deals to be had.

Question, you swapped numbers with a go go dancer after a fuck. Then the next night your phone goes off at 4 am, it's her calling if she can come over. No price is agreed upon, no barfine to be paid. You get one shot before going to sleep, another after both of you wake up. So what's a decent amount to give her? Would a 1000 baht be too low?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1709475]Question, you swapped numbers with a go go dancer after a fuck. Then the next night your phone goes off at 4 am, it's her calling if she can come over. No price is agreed upon, no barfine to be paid. You get one shot before going to sleep, another after both of you wake up. So what's a decent amount to give her? Would a 1000 baht be too low?[/QUOTE]She would expect that you give her the same amount you gave her the night before. You would save the bar fine. If you gave her 2000 the first night, 1000 the next night would be too low.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1709486]She would expect that you give her the same amount you gave her the night before. You would save the bar fine. If you gave her 2000 the first night, 1000 the next night would be too low.[/QUOTE]But what if the service was subpar? Would it be better to mention a price before you agreed to her stopping by?

[QUOTE=Breadman;1709490]But what if the service was subpar? Would it be better to mention a price before you agreed to her stopping by?[/QUOTE]If the service was sub par I can't imagine why you would want to repeat at any price, but if you do, it wouldn't hurt to just tell her you'll give her 1000 this time. Expect to get the same sub par service or worse at a lower cost point if she agrees.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1709491]If the service was sub par I can't imagine why you would want to repeat at any price, but if you do, it wouldn't hurt to just tell her you'll give her 1000 this time. Expect to get the same sub par service or worse at a lower cost point if she agrees.[/QUOTE]Ok, lets say service was good first time but the late night call didn't stack up. My thinking is tell her you didn't earn 2000. Hand her the 1000 and say if you want the rest you'd better do something before you leave.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1709475]Question, you swapped numbers with a go go dancer after a fuck. Then the next night your phone goes off at 4 am, it's her calling if she can come over. No price is agreed upon, no barfine to be paid. You get one shot before going to sleep, another after both of you wake up. So what's a decent amount to give her? Would a 1000 baht be too low?[/QUOTE]Yes too low!

What happened was she like you because she didn't have to perform. Good for her and not for you. Better to stay away from this girl. She didn't call you because she adores your company.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1709504]Ok, lets say service was good first time but the late night call didn't stack up. My thinking is tell her you didn't earn 2000. Hand her the 1000 and say if you want the rest you'd better do something before you leave.[/QUOTE]I always get the money straight up front. No problems later that way and it is just good business. I never buy anything where there is a question of how much it will cost.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1709504]Ok, lets say service was good first time but the late night call didn't stack up. My thinking is tell her you didn't earn 2000. Hand her the 1000 and say if you want the rest you'd better do something before you leave.[/QUOTE]Why be negative with her when you can be positive. If she calls a 4 am, just say: "honey, it's 4 am; if you want to come over now I'll give you 1000 baht, OK mai? That way you both know what to expect and you avoid the necessity of insulting her by telling her she didn't earn what you gave her before.

[QUOTE=Daddy07;1709486]She would expect that you give her the same amount you gave her the night before. You would save the bar fine. If you gave her 2000 the first night, 1000 the next night would be too low.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. There's no 'rule' or going rate for this and I think most of the girls don't expect the same amount. If a girl wants to come to you in her spare time she's obviously in need of money so you can take advantage of that.

For example: I barfined a cute 18 yo from the Airport Club. Her fee was 2000 B for ST. I got her number and in the following weeks we had a couple of afternoon sessions. We did not negotiate a price upfront. I gave her 1000 B for each session and she was happy with it.

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1709299]I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?[/QUOTE]I think a sex Mecca for you personally is what variety you like to indulge in and where you get the best service from that variety. Let me elaborate. I like Vietnamese girls but I found the service from WG in Ho Chi Min City below par where the girls generally just want you to finish and leave. I was there for 3 days and didn't have a great service from any of the ladies I went with. Now I frequently visit Shanghai on business and there is a bar called Manhattan. Mostly full of Vietnamese ladies and I have mostly had exceptional GFE service from them. How strange is that and I have tried to understand the phychology but haven't found one. Hong Kong is another place I visit and again many Vietnam ladies there too but again same service as HCMC so for me Shanghai is a sex Mecca only because of Manhattan and the viet ladies. In fact a was there last night and had an amazing session with the gorgeous Lex who has only arrived 2 days ago.

I also visit HK couple of times a year and I have an absolute blast. I do end up spending about 500 per night there including drinks and a lady.

I usually party till about 8 am and take a selection from the after party venue called players. Here you find the leftovers but also non pros or semi pros who have normal days jobs but just want extra money. Here I have had excellent times with phili ladies and girls from Indonesia. Now again I have visited Angeles City too and the service I get from PI girls in HK is miles better IMHO.

I have never been to Pattaya so I can't compare however I will be there from 26th to 30th this month and one day in BKK. 3 of us are going and staying at the Marriot. I have been saving up and have a huge budget after hotel costs so looking at going proper out with party and ladies. I am more of a disco pickup kinda guy as I like drinking with ladies and tend to pick a fun girl. But will of course try gogo bars too.

Looking forward to experiencing the LOS and reporting back.

Thanks all for the wealth of knowledge that has been contributed.

Red

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1709294]Regarding the "special shirt" not being quite as crazy as it sounds, I think I know what you're getting at. There are some some articles of clothing that I think make me look good. In the eyes of others, maybe they really do, or maybe they don't. I don't care. When I wear those articles of clothing, I feel confident.[/QUOTE]Agreed, I think Pick-Up Artists who do not Pay-for-Play call it getting into State. Some even recommend projecting good State onto a talisman (shirt or whatnot) so it is easier to recapture in the future. I cannot see why we mongers cannot steal the best ideas from Game theory.

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1709299]I have another question for the brotherhood of the Pattaya forum. If Pattaya is the Mecca of mongering, where in the world is the next best place?[/QUOTE]I'm not sure Mecca is a place I'd like to be, but I understand your question. Actually I think Bangkok is the no. 1 place for mongering for me, with Pattaya no. 2.

No. 3 would then be the German partytreffs and FKKs.

[QUOTE=RedHawk;1709734]I like Vietnamese girls but I found the service from WG in Ho Chi Min City below par . . . Now I frequently visit Shanghai on business and there is a bar called Manhattan. Mostly full of Vietnamese ladies and I have mostly had exceptional GFE service from them. Hong Kong is another place I visit and again many Vietnam ladies there too but again same service as HCMC so for me Shanghai is a sex Mecca only because of Manhattan

I have never been to Pattaya so I can't compare however I will be there from 26th to 30th this month and one day in BKK.

Looking forward to experiencing the LOS and reporting back.

Thanks all for the wealth of knowledge that has been contributed.

Red[/QUOTE]Thanks to you as well, especially the tip regarding Shanghai, the Manhattan bar and the Viet girls. As for your upcoming four day trip to the LOS, here's wishing you have such a fabulous time that when you leave, you'll wish you had had more time.