Another Lady Marmalade report
£120 doesn’t buy much p4p in sad old britain. you can take a chance on an escort. maybe half an hour to an hour for that. she might be quite good or she might be just a less than optimum throw of the dice. at a top parlour like sandy’s superstars you might get change from a hundred quid for a similar time, but extras like french kissing, owo and so on soon rack up the bill even at that excellent establishment. you could even go to a swingers club on a night when single guys are allowed, pay the hefty membership/entrance fee levied on single men, work at it for a few hours and some chap might share his wife with you if you are exceedingly lucky and charming. even if you go swinging as part of a couple (assuming you aren’t paying someone to go with you), you may find the action will probably still fall short of your ideal two-hour fantasy.
which is not what i’d say about lady marmalade parties.
the lady marmalade party i went to last tuesday afternoon was far better than i had ever imagined it could be. i hadn’t imagined such enthusiastic and beautiful girls. i hadn’t imagined cramming so much into two hours. i hadn’t imagined such a charming, open and ‘normal’ host as emma (‘lady marmalade’) and her loving partner, moss. i hadn’t imagined such great ambience. and, most of all, i hadn’t imagined the girls driving the pace, spontaneously anticipating my desires without prompting. there’s few places in the world where i have come across girls with such a great attitude (brasil is one – did i mention 80% of the marmalade girls are from brasil?) and aptitude. but here they are reliably consistent it seems. i learnt most of them come through referrals from existing girls. even in brasil you would lucky (or very well connected) to find such teamwork.
i had phoned the day before and got the details, opting for the 4-6pm party. i was delighted to find the venue was not far from my hotel (and walking distance from my usual hotel!) i’m an awful timekeeper and still managed to get there 15 minutes late. but i’m welcomed warmly, fortified with a glass of wine and a brisk tour before taking a shower and venturing into the room where a lot of action was taking place.
it’s a lovely apartment. emma and another girl (on ‘maid’ duty) are invisible at times, flitting through the apartment to tidy towels, wine glasses, keeping everything looking brand new. at other times they are there to chat, refill a glass, offer scrumptious nibbles from the buffet table. there’s nothing stilted – it’s like being a guest in someone’s home. when i had spoken to moss on the phone there was none of the ‘sizing you up’ vibe that you usually get with business transactions. valuables, including ‘contributions’, were placed in a sealed envelope with my name on it. (i understood the contribution was set at £120 for the two hour party but no-one mentioned money.) if i hadn’t been getting such an honest to goodness vibe i would have been keeping an eye peeled at this point, but i was already impressed that lady marmalade and her friends were intent on giving more, on making sure it was the best two hours i could imagine, and on giving excellent value for money.
as i tentatively joined the action (still within a few minutes of walking in the front door), i suppose i had half expected to be left to my own devices until i had ‘got in the mood’ or a girl was ‘free’, but within seconds, a dream blonde softly and gently encourages me forward, seamlessly slipping to her knees to give me a dedicated bbbj, then shortly afterwards guiding me to the lovely tangle of arms and legs and bums, breasts and pussies on the bed, slipping a condom on faster than you can say, “hello, what’s your name?” (and my deepest apologies here to any girls whose name i forgot or confused in this report – the full line up on tuesday was alysia, bianca, nicole, sofia, malina and helena.)
with unspoken agreements we negotiate different positions, eventually finding one that she rather seems to like (this gorgeous lady on her back, me entering from the side, my hip massaging her groin as i thrust). i’m enjoying the adventure!
i think her name is nicole (checking from the website photos afterwards). nicole has a tiny, petite, body, cascading hair, and treats me as if i am the only person of importance in the whole universe. thank you nicole! we session away in a few positions. i feel incredibly lucky. she is gorgeous. she has ‘initiated’ me into the party. i am impressed!
back in the lounge, i sip on my glass of red and wonder what if anything happens next. emma says with a little laugh that we’re only allowed ‘ten minutes to recover’. there’s no pressure. the food is nice. the conversation is nice. but the girls are determinedly tempting as soon as i’m interested!
a bit later i find myself in another bedroom. this new girl has skin like a summer night. everything is happening in a giddying, intoxicating whirlwind. but it’s not the wine – i’ve been careful not to indulge too much in that side of the generous hospitality. i’m frankly swept off my feet and yet in full control. such beautiful girls and, even at two hours, such short time to get to know them.
as the party starts winding down, i wander through to the main bedroom (that i’ve nicknamed the ‘orgy’ room). one of the girls, a truly lovely young blonde i’ve had my eye on, is reclining and we get to joking about her fancy-dress boots. her name is alycia. her boots are soft velvety ones that come off easily – part of the ‘superhero’ theme of the day. she has very kissable feet – the boots are bare-soled and i play with each of alycia’s toes before going on to kiss even more interesting parts of her anatomy. she has wonderful-tasting juices and soon has my undivided attention. i am not giving any indication of needing extra encouragement but, while my head is dedicatedly between alysia’s soft and gentle thighs, i am vaguely aware of two other girls doing everything they can to tenderly find a way to my cock and balls with their hands and tongues.
eventually i am lying exhausted on the bed next to alycia with a huge smile on my face. my tiny smattering of portuguese allows me to pick up on the gist of a brief conversation between the brasilian girls. i seem maybe to have endeared myself to alycia when she learns i kept on doing what i was doing to satisfy her even after i had orgasmed. she gets nice ‘n’ soft ‘n’ cuddly with me, nice warmth and affection. now i not only feel well and truly shagged but valued, on a more intimate level. alycia is 19. she comes from espirito santo, i think. i am resting on a cloud in heaven somewhere till i feel duty-bound to go and bid farewell to my hosts.
there is no clock-watching, no rush. the generosity and good taste i have received is the main impetus to reciprocate with warmth, consideration and good manners. the girls have an hour before creating another party.
"we do it mostly as a hobby," emma tells me, and i believe her. (quite a lot of hours for a hobby, but she gives it that feeling. and work out the math – posh apartment, 6 stunning girls for two hours, barely more punters than girls. it’s a good business model and not least because i imagine it’s a pretty good place to work for the lovely girls who have the looks and intelligence - and interest in the overall result. i can imagine, even in brasil, a lot of girls not able to throw themselves into it without ego, jealousies or constant one-upmanship.)
“it reminds me of the orgy room in a swingers club through there,” i tell her, indicating the far bedroom, “only more intense.”
it turns out we both used to be swingers. she explains how she believes men get a short deal on the swinging scene. she and moss (her real partner) wanted to do something about it. to create an environment where a man’s fantasy, whatever it is, could be satisfied. she also believes in value for money.
and she knows how to deliver it.
great atmosphere. even the ambient music was really good. probably better than i could hope to organise myself (imagine – if you paid several women to pamper you sexually, paid them some more to act like they’re desperate for you, it would probably still feel like quid pro quo – and that’s before you worry about whether they get on together and aren’t trying to get one up on you).
if a group situation is not your scene, you’d be best advised to avoid lady marmalade parties. personally i don’t have a problem with it. my only problem writing such a glowing review is that some idiot will try to spoil a very worthwhile venture. this review is based on just one visit. ratio was slightly better than the 2:1 maximum they allow but i hardly noticed it since at any one time there’s probably one or two guys recovering between sessions (which staggers things nicely) or one or two that have to leave early. the other men there last tues seemed very pleasant – i chatted briefly with one guy at the end. i can imagine that if you had a couple of obnoxious guys turn up it could maybe put a damper on it, but emma and co do seem to have a pretty good handle on things.
i’ve compared it in certain aspects to variations on a swingers club and should be at pains to point out (and also not offend many old friends from the swinging scene) that there are certain differences, not just the fact that this is orientated to male fantasy rather than being a female-orientated setup. there’s sometimes the possibility for more emotional interaction in swinging than here – many swingers would say, “i don’t fancy swapping my wife for someone who’s getting paid.” i sympathise with that and don’t personally like swingers clubs that hire escorts or single men taking escorts to a swingers club. but, although there are several quite distinct swinging scenes (eg if you are young and good-looking there are certain exclusive options open, then there’s private parties, one-to-one meets, and purely social meets). but on the purely recreational sex level, lady marmalade parties imho fill a gap – not just in the market, but in the opportunities for different types of sexual experience and fulfilment.
i should also mention it’s not just brasilian girls at the party! there was a stunning czech girl on tuesday, and also a divine oriental girl. they were all lovely: but without having that false (imo) holographically ‘perfect’-but-perfectly-empty look - that pin-up girls and escorts sometimes have. i know my good friend euro will maybe ask me for a comparison to rio’s 4x4 club. on the other hand, euro, i’d love to know your thoughts on lm parties vis-a-vis the german fkk clubs you know, so i think we should do some field comparisons! so when are you next in london?
anyway, i had a great time. and left with a big, warm, genuine smile. thank you, lady marmalade. you put the fun back into british sex. and i’ll be back next time i’m in london.
summary: girls. looks – excellent. skill levels – excellent. attitude (most importantly) – excellent. atmosphere – excellent. venue and facilities: superb. value for money – excellent.
London parties vs. German Partytreff
[QUOTE=Euro100]The LM parties seem more similar to Partytreffs in Germany ([url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1101[/url]). There you can have similar fixed-price all-you-can-pop experiences. But I hasten to say that LM seems quite a big step up in both class of service and quality of the ladies.[/QUOTE]
Euro, Chris, et al,
LM, Sacred Rose and GP (I've had the fortune to go to all 3), are the closest things that you can find to the German partytreffs with some major differences. These parties are the only value for money scene for an unattached guy in London, and I try to get to one or the other on every trip to London (about 5-6 times a year). As Euro knows, I am also a regular on the German FKK and partytreff board- I get to Germany 2-3 times a month and I have had the pleasure to enjoy many of the best and the greatest FKK and PT clubs.
Last time in London town, I was at LM. It was, as reported here, great, and I have had similar times at the others. Classy places, hands-on management approach, great attitude from the SP, lots of no-holds in your face action and a generally upscale clientele.
All of this sounds a lot like PT (except for the 120 GBP), and they are very similar in the one price, all you can eat policy, but not at all similar to an FKK, which functions more like a traditional bordello, except that the women are working in the house, but not for the house.
While the London Parties (LP) all have a very similar modus operandi and the German partytreff (PT) all are slightly different and therefore hard to generalize, IMO, the major differences between an LP and a PT are:
* LP are situated within London proper, all within striking distance of easy public transportation options. The good PT are generally in hard to access and more rural areas.
* You need to call LP to reserve a place and get the address. All the info about PT is readily available everywhere, in local newspapers, internet, etc.
* The good PT will have a larger number of women, better refreshment options and also may have additional features to pass the down time (sauna, hot tub, masseuse).
*At LP's you always know how many SP will be there and even their names and what they look like from the websites. At a PT it is almost impossible to know the amount of SP who will be there- you could call and ask before you go, but this information is generally inaccurate as the clubs themselves don't always know.
* LP are a much more controlled atmosphere as the amount of men is limited to maintain a good ratio to the amount of SP. This is a great feature. At a PT it is impossible to know if how many other men will be there and since it's almost impossible to know the amount of SP who will be there, the ratios can range to great to abysmal.
* The LP draw their daily work rota lineup from a very stable SP lineup. Since they management really knows what's going on and gets instantaneous feedback from the customers, there's a very high overall quality of SP working there as the ones that don't meet the standard don't last. I've been told by one of the managers, that they have too many good women to get into their daily rota and keep them busy enough not to look for employment elsewhere. At a PT, the quality can greatly vary and the lineup is very unstable as it seems that the PT clubs located in rural areas cannot locate and keep enough good SP.
* I have had great sessions at both LP and PT, and mediocre sessions at both. The work ethic at LP is definitely better, but that's obvious given that the SP work for 2-3 hour sessions a few times a week, while a PT girl may work 12 hour sessions, every day.
* Some of the PT are far kinkier and raunchier with Bukake, group GB, DP, Creampie, anal, S&M and other options available. I haven't seen this at LP.
* The biggest difference, is the value for money issue. Like everything in London, it's expensive, as pricing in an LP for a 2-3 hour session is 120- 150 GBP. That's 250- 300 USD, so by any US standards it's still a great value. But at PT, the pricing runs between 75- 150 Euro and the sessions run from 5 hours to all day. I find that at an LP, hoping to maximize my investment, I need to time my sessions perfectly to get in 3 pops in 2 hours, and it means cutting back on relaxation time from the 45 minutes- 1 hour that I prefer between pops. At a PT, there's lots of time, to stock up on fluids, shoot the breeze with other mongers, get to know the girls better, shower and clean up properly, etc. So at a PT, spending 6-8 hours for about 100 Euro, I can easily get in 5- 6 pops, which is unsurpassed value for money, anywhere in the civilized world.
* In London, there really aren't any other decent options for an unattached man in town for a couple of days at at time. In Germany, there are a ton of affordable options other than PT, so you can mix up your experiences ( FKK, PT, swinger clubs, private houses, RLD, etc.).
There was a discussion on the German PT thread a while back on whether a higher quality PT charging higher prices would work. I would be a regular customer at a club which had a convergence of the best features of these 2 models and would be willing to pay for it; Stable lineup of quality SP, 6 hour long sessions, controlled ratio of men to SP, accessible location, wider range of down-time options, reasonable pricing (IMO 200-250 USD).
Hope that this helps. I'll keep going to both :-)
Njoy...
London parties vs. German Partytreff
I have taken the liberty of drawing further attention to this fine discussion by putting it in the 'distinguished' section.
Like the author, (I wonder if we have met 'in a queue' somewhere) I have enjoyed all of the London 'Big Three' providers. Lady Marmalade seems to be getting most of the plaudits here, and they are richly deserved, but I go more frequently to Sacred Rose, because it's closer to home, because I like and respect hostess Kaylee, and because I struck up a friendship with one or two of the girls.
Including Jodie, whose departure back to Brazil this Christmas was a sad loss to the London party scene. A regular at SR, with I believe also one or two guest appearances for LM, this gorgeous, sexy cheerful and funny young woman enlivened dozens of parties over the last two or three years, and gave many many men a great deal pf innocent pleasure. I hope she saved some money in the process, and I do know that she learned some English, which was after all the reason her parents encouraged her to travel to London in the first place!
Let us hope that her linguistic (and other) talents land her a good job in Brazil and eventually a kind, loving and not too possessive husband.
Boa Sorte, Jodie, and happy New Year to all those who organise and attend London's parties, easily the best value for money in our overpriced punting scene.
Longer Party times @ Lady Marmalade
[QUOTE=Iseeu]My biggest qualm with LM is that 2 hours just isn't enough time. I imagine any first timer coming over the pond from the sex penitentiary would think that I'm nuts for complaining about this, but I've been spoiled by PT's. I like to have more interaction with the SP, but the way that an LP session is structured they just don't have enough down time.[/QUOTE]Hi Iseeu,
Happy New Year to you and all the other guests.
Thank you for you recent kind words.
The issue of length of parties is one we have continually looked at. We have tried various lengths but find the 2 hour option the most popular. Most of our guests have busy schedules and find it difficult to find windows of more than a couple of hours. Having longer parties with options makes it difficult to monitor numbers, a key guarantee we offer.
What many guys who want longer parties are doing is booking 2 consecutive parties. I think Pyramidguy mentions this in his report. We offer a concessionary rate for this and it allows the guest to party for 2 hours, sit and chill with the girls for an hour then have another couple of hours of fun fully refreshed.
Look forward to meeting you at future events.
hugs and kisses,
Emma
xxx
