Jakarta

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2865153]Exactly some guys really don't think straight and like to destroy some destinations. Many girls don't even get that in 5 months. Really outrageous![/QUOTE]Does it really destroy a destination. I don't think so. She's a photo shoot model who obviously travels (as he met her overseas previously} and has a rich sugar daddy by the sounds of it, so really, when you get to that sort of level, has he paid over the top. You don't really know, until you know exactly what you are dealing with.

One person paying that much is not going to destroy Jakarta, two people paying it is not going to destroy it. I certainly overpaid the first time I was in Jakarta. Hadn't found ISG, and don't remember the scene collapsing. I met with the same girl, 6 months later, paid her the going rate and she didn't complain. They get a good pay day, smile, think lucky me, and move on.

Roy2920 had 2 good days by the sounds of it, good on him, it won't impact my next visit. Even if his girl does flaunt herself in the places I visit - which I doubt as she will not want to be recognized and jeopardize her relationship.

[QUOTE=Roy2920;2865109]Yes, you heard it right. IDR15 m I. E. USD945. Is it too much? I heard someone paid IDR5 m for an overnight. So, not sure about the going rate for 3 days, two nights LT.
[/QUOTE]Hey Roy, I have to ask where did you find this chick? I was quoted by this one chick on seeking arrangements for 2 days 12 million and I already thought that was insane. But if why'all have deep pockets feel free to PM me if why'all want her seeking username to judge for yourself. I asked her how much for just an afternoon or evening together and she said she doesn't do that because apparently anything less than 24 hours together makes her a prostitute. LOL the mental gymnastics is hilarious, or maybe that's her excuse for a bigger payday. I was able to get her down for 1 day 6 million and granted she looked attractive and upper class but she was not hot enough for that much, not to mention the sheer principle of paying that much would ruin the experience for me. There's only about 3 instagram hotties and maybe a pornstar or two that I would shell that kind of money out for. The cuties in Classic were arguably hotter than her. And don't forget she expects you to foot the bill to take her out eating or shopping, etc. I'm sure Roy's tab at the end of 3 days with his MILF was another 10 or 15 million alone from the restaurants and clubs. No wonder she bought him a shirt and welcoming snack.

Also I didn't know Indonesia has their own great firewall either so I used a 100% free vpn from ProtonVPN that worked perfectly fine for me. Not only was this site and any porn sites blocked, they even blocked reddit ffs.

[QUOTE=Roy2920;2865210]Yup. You probably right. Maybe it was my little head that is calculating. But please do share, how much would you pay if you are engaging this kind of service? She initially quoted IDR20 mil. I don't know the going rate for LT. I figured that as some people paid IDR5 mil for overnight, or IDR1 mil for an hour, then 3 days and 2 nights might be about it.[/QUOTE]Some background info on this chick and a photo would provide much needed clarity for your scenario.

Ie where you met her, how much you paid before, how old is she etc etc.

I don't understand the need to pay this large amount considering a ST can be had for 400 k or less.

LT at classic or kota can be had for roughly 2 M, with some of that going to the bar.

Majority of those chicks are young and raw sex is not uncommon.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2865415]Does it really destroy a destination. I don't think so. She's a photo shoot model who obviously travels (as he met her overseas previously} and has a rich sugar daddy by the sounds of it, so really, when you get to that sort of level, has he paid over the top. You don't really know, until you know exactly what you are dealing with.

One person paying that much is not going to destroy Jakarta, two people paying it is not going to destroy it. I certainly overpaid the first time I was in Jakarta. Hadn't found ISG, and don't remember the scene collapsing. I met with the same girl, 6 months later, paid her the going rate and she didn't complain. They get a good pay day, smile, think lucky me, and move on.

Roy2920 had 2 good days by the sounds of it, good on him, it won't impact my next visit. Even if his girl does flaunt herself in the places I visit - which I doubt as she will not want to be recognized and jeopardize her relationship.[/QUOTE]Local little celebrities can quote very big price, you can even fuck TV show actress, Miss Indo maybe, but it's reserved for big business men, or higher politics men. If you have that kind of money, why not, we only live once. But If you make the fist step, talking to "normal" girls, you can have wonderful, perfect and, almost, innocent girls for less money, and with luck, even have true feelings. For this budget you can also go to Travel Hotel and fuck different young ladies all night, 2 or 3 in the same time, it will be also a good memorable experience.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2865365]Whats your experiences with 2 girls for 500 k from classic or am I better to choose 1 at a time? .[/QUOTE]It's common knowledge that unless you're lucky it's better to take 1 girl at a time at Classic and Travel. However, if you have a fantasy of DFK with one girl and another rides you cowboy then go for it, it's cheap.

Whats your opinions on KTV places in Jakarta an absolute waste of money? It turns out you can have sex with the girl bit the cost is 4 million is that right?

What's your opinions on karaoke places o e fork told me it's 4 million to do that and include a girl for 3 hours.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2865153]Exactly some guys really don't think straight and like to destroy some destinations. Many girls don't even get that in 5 months. Really outrageous![/QUOTE]Roy2920 isn't destroying anything, he's paying the market rate for what he got. He can afford it, good luck to him, not my scene but each to their own.

Look, here's the basics, every bloke in Jakarta is screwing around, every single one of them. The ojek drivers and vegetable sellers are screwing around, the ojek drivers with the street girls they pick up in Falatehan and the veggie sellers are screwing around with the pembantus they meet in the morning. The sums exchanged vary according to mileage.

Then there are the chairmen of major corporations, senior police generals, the celebrity lawyers we see on TV, cabinet ministers. Who are they screwing around with? Let me tell you, it ain't the pembantus (well, maybe if they need a quickie and the wife is out) or streetwalkers, and nor is it the girls in Classic or Starmoon, or even in BATS or CJs. They are nailing the top models, the sinetron artists, the members of popular girl bands, and they are paying top dollar for it. These girls are getting houses, apartments, Hermes bags, the works, why? Because to these guys they are worth it, they give them the undying devotion displayed by Roy's bird, and more especially they know how to keep their mouths shut (obviously not when they are required to open their mouths, but you get my drift).

You will see these women in the top private schools in South Jakarta, they will arrive in BMWs and Mercedes. They will be immaculately turned out to see little Abigail or Justyn perform in the school show, they will have everything but husbands or any visible means of support, but we all know how they got there.

That is the market that Roy2920 briefly tapped into for a weekend he won't forget. His money, his choice.

Now for the past eleventy hundred pages of this forum all we have talked about is Classic, occasionally Star Moon and BATS. Trust me, not only are we not even in the same market, we're not even in the same universe as the model / sugar baby Roy hooked up with. The girls working in the meat markets of North Jakarta might dream of hooking up with some Chinese guy whose parents own a shophouse and become his selingkuan, but they ain't even breathing the same atmosphere as the top-notch actresses / models / whatever that are doing the circuits of Jakarta's super rich.

And neither are we. Don't worry about what Roy paid, he didn't so why should you?

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2865609]Roy2920 isn't destroying anything, he's paying the market rate for what he got. ?[/QUOTE]Your assumption is wrong: he did not pay the market rate but he paid it because he was uninformed. If he would have studied the forum he would be a wise men in regards what's the "market rate".

Yes, there are bxxches with sugar daddies, enabling them a luxury lifestyle. Let it be.

For us visiting mongers the field of nice girls is still huge in Jakarta. And you may have experienced it also before: a young girl, fresh from the farm, may give you a much better girl friend experience for little money then a high paid, surgery padded luxury lady with mileage.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2865415]Does it really destroy a destination. I don't think so. She's a photo shoot model who obviously travels (as he met her overseas previously} and has a rich sugar daddy by the sounds of it, so really, when you get to that sort of level, has he paid over the top. You don't really know, until you know exactly what you are dealing with.
[/QUOTE]In my Club 27 (who remembers?) days, there was a portfolio there with photo's of sinetron extras and models who worked for Honda and (I think) Pepsodent. There was an all in package of US $ 1000,00: one of those girls, from Saturday afternoon till Sunday before dark, a villa with swimming pool in Puncak, snacks and softdrinks and beer.

And who remembers the bordello of Hartono near jln Prapanca where 3 to 5 juta (in those days! Was not extra ordinary?

So, what Roy paid is not that exaggerated if the girl was a model of some sorts.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2865668]Your assumption is wrong: he did not pay the market rate but he paid it because he was uninformed. If he would have studied the forum he would be a wise men in regards what's the "market rate".

Yes, there are bxxches with sugar daddies, enabling them a luxury lifestyle. Let it be.

For us visiting mongers the field of nice girls is still huge in Jakarta. And you may have experienced it also before: a young girl, fresh from the farm, may give you a much better girl friend experience for little money then a high paid, surgery padded luxury lady with mileage.[/QUOTE]I made no assumptions. I stuck to stated facts.

The woman is a model, she is a selingkuan of a wealthy businessman, she travels overseas, she has her own business.

What you pay for her is not what you pay for a girl in Classic or for a sweet young thing just up from Sukabumi and working as an SPG selling health drinks in a supermarket.

Neither of them affects the other's business, in the same way McDonalds prices are unaffected by the price of ground beef patties in Salt Bae.

Ya pays yer money, and ya takes yer choice.

Wow- this should surely be nominated for reports of distinction thread? I am booking my flight.

One question: do these girls or anywhere else do rimming? I asked the question before but got no replies. Surely I can't be alone in enjoying this fetish?

[QUOTE=Zanny;2865723]Firstly, the Jakarta map didn't work properly.[/QUOTE]

Map doesn't work.

[QUOTE=Zanny;2865723]Firstly, the Jakarta map didn't work properly..[/QUOTE]

I can't figure out the structure of Kaskus. I found some shops but only ads, some are few years ago. Can't find any reviews. Did I look at the wrong place? Is there any local review forum?

[QUOTE=Zanny;2865723]Firstly, the Jakarta map didn't work properly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PartyAnimal;2862277]Not sure if you are extremely lucky but from my experience:

1) No in room spa available in both of these hotels anymore.

2) Totally clean experience. No extras.

But yeah their therapists are very beautiful.[/QUOTE]Early this year, 2023. - stayed at JW Marriott. Definitely recommend this hotel. Decided to try massage, not expecting anything. Immediately, the girl takes towel off and became rather adventurous with her hands. Of course you have privacy in the massage cubicle, but you have to keep the noise down. Don't remember much about the massage. Tip 1. 5 Juta. Never looked into possibility of room service.

LE Meridien, stayed two times in late 2022. Went 3 times for massage, which was very good. No evidence whatsoever of extra service. Don't think room service is available, but I may be wrong, or maybe it wasn't available then.

Hotel Vertu Harmoni, on Hayam Wuruk (Central Jakarta) - early 2023, stayed for several days. Tried a massage with a great massage therapist. Strangely enough, I did not ask for any extras. I want to go back to this hotel before this year is over and see if her massage service is available in my room.

Admin. Maybe there should be a Jakarta hotel massage sub forum.