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[QUOTE=Paolo99;2231041]She probably told you that it means "doll" and you understood "door".
[/QUOTE]Thai's have a problem ending a word with the "L" sound but typically substitute it with the letter "N". School becomes "sekune", central becomes "centron" (Centron Wornd), even the word bill as in check/bill becomes "check bin". So doll should have sounded more like "don", but it could have come out just about any other way but doll.
[QUOTE=Franciscass;2231093]I agree, it is not about looks or age. My point about the attraction for girls wanting to FL was the sense of empowerment in having the freedom to choose, about being your own boss rather than "working for the man".[/QUOTE]Yes, being self-employed and being your own boss is a lot less stressful, than working for someone else and having a boss over you.
The self-employed lady can decide when to work, how much to work, and when to take a break. And she feels free to leave a bad situation or reject a bad customer, without fearing any negative consequences from her boss.
Being in control makes the work less stressful in any type of work and for any type of worker. It's a general principle that psychologists have known for a long time, and numerous studies have shown this to be true as described at the link below:
[URL]https://www.mentalhelp.net/articles/self-efficacy-and-the-perception-of-control-in-stress-reduction/[/URL]
That's why it's a a good idea to treat your lady with respect and give her a sense that she is in control. This kind of thing makes the situation less stressful for her and helps her to stay in the mood with you.
[QUOTE=Dan7373;2231430]Yes, being self-employed and being your own boss is a lot less stressful, than working for someone else and having a boss over you.
The self-employed lady can decide when to work, how much to work, and when to take a break. And she feels free to leave a bad situation or reject a bad customer, without fearing any negative consequences from her boss.[/QUOTE]On the other hand, self-employed workers need to do more than their core work activities -- manage the money so they have some fixed amount each month (instead of only income from current customers), actively look for and solicit customers (which can take more time than actual work), set the prices, handle rejecting the unruly ones and forcing them to pay.
Especially on your last point, bosses almost always side with the sex worker, rather than the customer, unless the worker has a history of complaints. Even simply having a boss and 5 co-workers around does wonders for a sex worker's security.
Personally, as a customer, I prefer freelancers precisely because, I have more leverage and leeway in terms of price, service and handling unexpected situations or disputes. Most of us wouldn't abuse this position, but be sure there's a steady percentage of shady characters who certainly would (say, would simply refuse to pay, or demand more than is customary or agreed upon).
As for the worker, freelancers get a bigger cut of the money and some added flexibility, but almost all other benefits are on the side of working for an established venue. If it weren't so, most girls would be freelancers (this applies in a free country like Thailand, not in places with near-slavery).
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2231445]On the other hand, self-employed workers need to do more than their core work activities -- manage the money so they have some fixed amount each month (instead of only income from current customers), actively look for and solicit customers (which can take more time than actual work), set the prices, handle rejecting the unruly ones and forcing them to pay.
Especially on your last point, bosses almost always side with the sex worker, rather than the customer, unless the worker has a history of complaints. Even simply having a boss and 5 co-workers around does wonders for a sex worker's security.
Personally, as a customer, I prefer freelancers precisely because, I have more leverage and leeway in terms of price, service and handling unexpected situations or disputes. Most of us wouldn't abuse this position, but be sure there's a steady percentage of shady characters who certainly would (say, would simply refuse to pay, or demand more than is customary or agreed upon).
As for the worker, freelancers get a bigger cut of the money and some added flexibility, but almost all other benefits are on the side of working for an established venue. If it weren't so, most girls would be freelancers (this applies in a free country like Thailand, not in places with near-slavery).[/QUOTE]I think the internet and mobile phones have made it a lot easier for P4P ladies to get and keep repeat customers. If a lady gets 10 or more guys who want to do it with her regularly, then she doesn't need to spend a lot of time and effort on looking for other guys.
It's a mistress kind, which is common in Thai society. Most P4P business in Thailand is local, between local people. Foreigners are a sideline.
It doesn't even need to be direct type of advertising for a P4P Thai lady to find guys. All she needs to do is put her phone number or email on her Facebook or some other social media account. And this is a sign for guys that she is available. Because women don't normally publish their personal contact details.
Of course, the lady needs to be attractive to interest guys. But other than this, guys will come to her. She doesn't need to pursue them.
I suppose, security can be a problem. And that's why it makes sense for such ladies to have long-term repeat customers, rather than constantly look for new guys.
This isn't difficult for an attractive lady to set up. She needs to be good in bed. And her price needs to be reasonable. That's all there is to it. Because a guy's satisfaction is never permanent. Virtually every guy needs to nail a hot chick with his dick regularly.
Guys might want to have more than one lady. But there is nothing to stop a guy from having contact details of several P4P ladies and be a regular customer with all of them.
I think this kind of thing is even more common in places where P4P is illegal. Because having regular customers helps both the lady and her customers avoid the police.
[QUOTE=Jim200;2230891]That sucks. She was fantastic with me. Any recommendations of new girls here at Snow White that are anywhere decent looking like her?[/QUOTE]Sadly, the only new girls are a fatty and a girl who looks like (but isn't) a tranny.
I recently went to 101 premier massage in Bangkok. I initially had booked Cherry's but didn't like the line up and went for 101 premier. It is a clean place and no girls outside hounding you to get in. Once I am inside I was given a catalogue to choose from. Alternately you can pick from the line up. I chose MIX as the masseuse. One of the most kind and giving girls I met in Bangkok. It was 1. 5 hours I booked for 2 shots damages 2300 thb.
She first started with chit chat, post which she asked me to undress. Then she got into the shower with me. Oh my god her boobs were extremely beautiful and she had a smile to die for. We then went to the bed and she gave a great B2B oil massage. I was too horny by the end of it and had a very good time with her. She doesn't do DFK but BBBJ, and the sex was very satisfying.
I went back again for second round after 2 days and she did a much better job as she had a repeat customer!
Tips 500 the. Should have given her more.
[QUOTE=Surut;2231611]I recently went to 101 premier massage in Bangkok. I initially had booked Cherry's but didn't like the line up and went for 101 premier. It is a clean place and no girls outside hounding you to get in. Once I am inside I was given a catalogue to choose from. Alternately you can pick from the line up. I chose MIX as the masseuse. One of the most kind and giving girls I met in Bangkok. It was 1. 5 hours I booked for 2 shots damages 2300 thb.
She first started with chit chat, post which she asked me to undress. Then she got into the shower with me. Oh my god her boobs were extremely beautiful and she had a smile to die for. We then went to the bed and she gave a great B2B oil massage. I was too horny by the end of it and had a very good time with her. She doesn't do DFK but BBBJ, and the sex was very satisfying.
I went back again for second round after 2 days and she did a much better job as she had a repeat customer!
Tips 500 the. Should have given her more.[/QUOTE]Nice Advertising. "I initially had booked Cherry's but didn't like the line up?" A booking is meaningless without having a specific girl in mind?
[QUOTE=Surut;2231611] One of the most kind and giving girls I met in Bangkok.
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She doesn't do DFK but BBBJ[/QUOTE]Not giving if no DFK imo.
[QUOTE=*****man;2231540]Sadly, the only new girls are a fatty and a girl who looks like (but isn't) a tranny.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. Is that from surgeries or naturally? LOL.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2231733]Ha ha. Is that from surgeries or naturally? LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm not being mean to her. She's just one of these Thai girls who have naturally masculine facial features.
[QUOTE=Surut;2231611]I recently went to 101 premier massage in Bangkok. ....
I chose MIX as the masseuse. One of the most kind and giving girls I met in Bangkok. It was 1. 5 hours I booked for 2 shots damages 2300 thb....[/QUOTE]It's nice to know that lady Mix lets her guys have two shots with her. This kind of thing can make all the difference between being satisfied or feeling frustrated at the end.
Their website ([URL]http://www.101premiermassage.com/en/masseuses/[/URL]) doesn't say anything about the number of shots you get with the ladies. Which makes you assume that you get only one shot.
It's extra exciting for a guy to be with a new hot lady. Which usually means that you can't last for long with her, when she is new for you. You really need that second ride and second shot with the lady for your full satisfaction with her. Or else, it's a frustrating experience for a guy.
I used to think that this was only my personal experience with new ladies. But now I realize that this is a usual experience for most guys to have, as described and explained at the link below:
[URL]https://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2017/4/28/why-we-crave-sexual-novelty[/URL]
Getting only one shot with a new hot lady is probably the biggest turn off for guys with P4P ladies. Because it leaves you frustrated every time. You are extra excited to be with the new lady. So, you cum quickly with her. And then she says 'NO' for your second plow. Which leaves you frustrated and unsatisfied.
I can say for myself that this is the thing that has stopped me in the past from going to massage places and meeting new ladies. I knew from my experience that I was going to be frustrated in the end with a one-shot lady, and I didn't want to end up feeling like that.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2231041]She probably told you that it means "doll" and you understood "door".
[/QUOTE]Yeah, my mistake. Thanks to those who corrected.
Conversations in broken English and my minimal Thai are often surreal, and looking back often bring a smile to my face. Like now.
Seems my doorknob joke at the time was wasted too.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2231041]She probably told you that it means "doll" and you understood "door".
As Scizigys said Tukataa means doll, only one word comes in mind for "door" and it would be "pratoo".
So the challenging language is most likely to speak English with them.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. Yes Thais cannot pronounce Doll where they can pronounce Tukkata. So Doll sounds like Door. How embarrassing.
Door or Doll, same same. LOL.
The joke was slightly too subtle for me to get it at first glance, and Doorway threw me off the scent a little.
[QUOTE=Dan7373;2231852]It's extra exciting for a guy to be with a new hot lady. Which usually means that you can't last for long with her, when she is new for you. You really need that second ride and second shot with the lady for your full satisfaction with her. Or else, it's a frustrating experience for a guy.
I used to think that this was only my personal experience with new ladies. But now I realize that this is a usual experience for most guys to have, as described and explained at the link below:
[URL]https://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2017/4/28/why-we-crave-sexual-novelty[/URL]
Getting only one shot with a new hot lady is probably the biggest turn off for guys with P4P ladies. Because it leaves you frustrated every time. You are extra excited to be with the new lady. So, you cum quickly with her. And then she says 'NO' for your second plow. Which leaves you frustrated and unsatisfied.
[/QUOTE]Usual experience? I am not sure about that. Does not happen to me, blowing my load too quick, quite the reverse, and many other guys complain about difficulty to cum at all using a condom.
Sexual doctors are only treating guys that cum too quick, and it is considered a normal sexual Dysfunction (problem for the woman to be satisfied). However taking a large amount of time to cum, or too long, is strangely not listed as another dysfunction, other than thos eguys who don't cum for weird psychological reasons. Despite this, I don't think the condition might be that unusual.
So me, my relevant turn off would be, having enjoyed a sex about, I want another one soon, but might have to wait days for that with GF, or wait till her period is done. Waiting days is a big turn off. LOL That is one major cause of turning us into Mongers I think.
One ex GF had the right idea. She would not allow me to go out on the town by myself, unless I fucked her first, and then fucked her again on my return, and if my performance was less than normal, there would be a problem. LOL It worked. Very little playing up happened. I was not needing much more than 2 shots within just a few hours.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2232190]Usual experience? I am not sure about that. Does not happen to me, blowing my load too quick, quite the reverse, and many other guys complain about difficulty to cum at all using a condom.
Sexual doctors are only treating guys that cum too quick, and it is considered a normal sexual Dysfunction (problem for the woman to be satisfied). However taking a large amount of time to cum, or too long, is strangely not listed as another dysfunction, other than thos eguys who don't cum for weird psychological reasons. Despite this, I don't think the condition might be that unusual.
So me, my relevant turn off would be, having enjoyed a sex about, I want another one soon, but might have to wait days for that with GF, or wait till her period is done. Waiting days is a big turn off. LOL That is one major cause of turning us into Mongers I think.
One ex GF had the right idea. She would not allow me to go out on the town by myself, unless I fucked her first, and then fucked her again on my return, and if my performance was less than normal, there would be a problem. LOL It worked. Very little playing up happened. I was not needing much more than 2 shots within just a few hours.[/QUOTE]I'd say that your personal experience is an exception, rather than the rule.
Because numerous surveys and studies have shown that most men even in routine situations don't last more than 5-6 minutes (see link below). And this time is typically shorter, when the man is with a new woman and is extra excited to be with her. Which often is the case in a P4P situation.
It's true that some men last for more than 30 minutes, and perhaps they have some difficulty with reaching orgasm. But as the link below shows you in a graph, these men are a small minority. This isn't a usual experience for most men to have.
[URL]http://www.randalolson.com/2016/05/31/how-long-does-the-average-man-last-in-bed/[/URL]
Most men want their sexual intercourse (not including oral sex or foreplay) to last for a good 20-30 minutes according to a survey in UK at the link below. Which means that even two shots might not be enough for a lot of guys in a P4P type of situation.
[URL]https://globalnews.ca/news/3916453/how-long-should-sex-last/[/URL]