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[QUOTE=Sinofaguo;2232910]You can't go wrong with Let's Relax although they are not the cheapest they definatly offer an overall great experience (awesome massage and clean surroundings).
Don't expect any special endings though.[/QUOTE]I also second Let's Relax chain, have been to the Terminal 21 location. No hanky panky, you have to put on a disposable underwear. The masseuse are built like wrestlers and excellent massage.
[QUOTE=BlanLocal;2232868]While I see them every few feet here in the BKK Sukhumvit area, any recommendations when you're looking for an actual massage where the focus isn't the happy ending?[/QUOTE]Araya massage on Sukhumvit soi 20. I think it's the third massage parlor on the right side a few meters after entering the soi. The girls wear black trousers with an Asian styled yellow or gold color top. It's been a year than I didn't go there but almost all their girls were well trained and the place is very clean. Price was also a bit more expensive than most places (but still cheaper than Let's relax) but it was worth it in my opinion.
[QUOTE=BlanLocal;2232868]While I see them every few feet here in the BKK Sukhumvit area, any recommendations when you're looking for an actual massage where the focus isn't the happy ending?[/QUOTE]Sweet Massage on Soi 18 (the first one on your left going down the soi). 300 baht for a one-hour oil massage (I give a 100 baht tip also). Mook does an excellent massage, and no attempts at extras or specials (although I stated that I didn't want them before I went with her the first time).
I think that at most massage parlors (except maybe the ones on Soi 4 and Soi 7/1) if you tell them upfront that you only want a massage, and no extras or specials, most of the massage ladies will comply (except maybe the young, good-looking ones, who I would not choose anyway since they probably can't do much of a massage, as they rely on their looks to get customers). Also, beware of ladyboys in massage parlors, particularly in the two sois I mentioned above.
[QUOTE=BlanLocal;2232868]While I see them every few feet here in the BKK Sukhumvit area, any recommendations when you're looking for an actual massage where the focus isn't the happy ending?[/QUOTE]Walking to the dentist along Suk. T Soi 21 I found a nice massage shop that was very cheap and legit. 180 baht for oil massage and 150 for Thai. It is on the 1st street on the left walking down from Terminal 21. Its a 200 - 300 m walk at least.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2232802]Indeed. One of the biggest scams in the prostitution industry (worldwide, not only Thailand) is that "1 hour" typically means 1 shot only. For most guys, this means under 10 minutes of actual intercourse. I think an hour should mean an actual full hour (regardless of shots), and tend to only patronize massage places like Tulip or Snow White where this is the case.
Back in the days of 500-1000 baht sex, one shot was often fine, but at prices of 2000+ baht, a 10 minute one-and-done is simply an awful deal, especially given that the looks in the massage parlors are very far from stellar (in fact, well below average for the given age range). I'd much rather have 3 very nice dinners for my 2000 baht, with money to spare.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it's not a scam, when you know about the one-cumshot rule, before you agree to go with the lady. Because you know what are getting into, and you agree to it.
But this rule is customer unfriendly. Because it's based on some arbitrary measure and not on whether the customer is satisfied or not.
I suppose, there is a loophole in this rule that you can take advantage of. Because the one-shot lady doesn't tell you how to have sex with her. Which means that you can use the Stop-and-Go method with her to last for a long time with her.
Basically, you stop banging the lady, when you feel that you are coming close to orgasm. You wait for this feeling to recede. And then you start banging the lady again. You can keep doing this over and over again and last with the lady for as long as you want.
I've tried this technique with a P4P lady before. But she questioned, why did I stop banging her? And she even tried to bang me herself from below, even though I was on top of her. I was too much of a nice guy and a gentleman with her. So, I resumed my banging, before I was ready. And I orgasmed quickly with this lady.
But this kind of problem can be resolved through communication, before the penetration. I tell the lady that I want to boom-boom her long time, and I explain to her how I will do it. I tell her that sometimes I will stop and wait, then boom-boom her some more.
When the lady understands how you want to do it and agrees, then you can last this way with her for a long time indeed.
I don't especially like banging my lady this way. Because it's a selfish type of sex. I basically bang the lady whenever I feel like it. Just when she is starting to get into it with me, I stop and wait. Which breaks her mood. Then I bang her some more, when she isn't in the mood anymore.
It's like I'm out of sync with the lady. I don't try to make it good for her. I just take her like a selfish bastard, the way it feels best for me.
It's a choice between being selfish with the lady and lasting for a long time with her, or being a nice guy and having a premature ejaculation with her.
This isn't the kind of choice I like to make. I'd rather be a nice guy with the lady and last for a long time with her too. But the one-cumshot lady doesn't give you much of a choice. Because she does it the way she wants, and she doesn't try to accommodate you.
And the funny thing about this Stop-and-Go method of lasting longer with your lady is that some health professionals advocate it for guys to use, without any mention at all how this might feel for the girl. The link below is an illustration of this.
[URL]http://www.edquestions.com/premature-ejaculation/can-the-stop-and-go-method-really-help-me-last-longer-with-premature-ejaculation/[/URL]
I'd say that the Stop-and-Go method isn't just about the physical technique. Because it's inconsistent with being a nice guy. You actually need to change your mindset and be able to see yourself as a selfish bastard. Or else, you will run into a mental barrier, and you won't be able to do it this way with your lady.
[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2232802]Indeed. One of the biggest scams in the prostitution industry (worldwide, not only Thailand) is that "1 hour" typically means 1 shot only. For most guys, this means under 10 minutes of actual intercourse. I think an hour should mean an actual full hour (regardless of shots), and tend to only patronize massage places like Tulip or Snow White where this is the case.
Back in the days of 500-1000 baht sex, one shot was often fine, but at prices of 2000+ baht, a 10 minute one-and-done is simply an awful deal, especially given that the looks in the massage parlors are very far from stellar (in fact, well below average for the given age range). I'd much rather have 3 very nice dinners for my 2000 baht, with money to spare.[/QUOTE]100% in agreement with you. When it's the equivalent of 12-25 USD, it's ok; when it's over 50 and in some cases over 100 USD, I'd rather have some nice dinners and go home for a wank. The service being provided for the most part is still the same as it was "back in the day. " Is it worth a bit more due to inflation? Sure, but 4 times or more? No way.
Went there on Sat around 4 pm. Surprisingly had a good collection. Around 10-15 ladies; 4 would be 6. 5+ in my ratings. Took a 90-min FS massage. Chose Pink.
Her pics on the website are a bit old. Looks much prettier in person. She is from Issan and 26 years old (vs 21 as shown on the website). Has a nice body, no tummy, no baby damage and natural nice assets. Also had much better massage hands than any other such establishment I have been to. Started with Shower and mouthwash together with a bit of play. Then 15 minutes of back massage with oil. 15 minutes of back massage with Nuru Gel. 5 minutes of front massage followed by BJ and FS (co-operative). Then continued with the front massage. Offered another shot through HJ at the end but I wasn't ready. So gave me a quick stronger back massage instead. Ended with shower again.
We shared line ID to meet outside. Can Speak basic English. Doesn't do BBBJ (I just asked, didn't request again. Maybe she does). That's the only reason I may not call her outside.
While coming out saw Bangkok passion massage and another establishment next to honeybee (first on left when you are going inside the soi). BPM had 6 ladies. Not high quality. Other one had 4 - not very high quality. But I think they keep moving around all the MPs. Think I have found my MP for next 3-4 visits at least. Liked some of the girls at Honeybee, would want to try them before moving on.
Damages - 2. 6 k THB (90 minutes FS).
Safe Mongering,
LC.
[QUOTE=LewisCarrol;2233383]Went there on Sat around 4 pm. Surprisingly had a good collection. Around 10-15 ladies; 4 would be 6. 5+ in my ratings. Took a 90-min FS massage. Chose Pink.
.[/QUOTE]Yes, she has a decent body and can also be booked at other of Honey Bee's sister shops like Bangkok Passion.
For a genuine massage at the higher end Dahra Beauty and Spa is consistently rated one of the best ones in BKK. They are like top 5 on trip advisor. They have 2 locations, 1 near ASOK and another in Silom. I have been to both and they are consistently 9 / 10. The price for a traditional 90 minutes massage is around 700 with tip and the oil massages start at around 1200 and can go up from there to 2000. It is strictly massage although they do sometimes massage very close to the balls and dick. I always think this is about to get interesting but then look at the lady who is always 40 + so even if they did offer extras it would not be worth it for a price / value aspect. For the record I have never been offered extras at this place. The facilities are like a 4 star or even 5 star hotel and very professional. Both facilities have like 15 rooms, maybe even 20 but do get booked out solid in the busier seasons from say November to March so it is best to call ahead in the morning for a afternoon booking or book online.
I always get dragged into entertaining friends of friends that are in town and if she is a lady I take her to Dahra or perhaps another higher end place in the afternoon, I have tried basically every top 10 place rated on trip advisor but always come back to Dahra. I of course use the "I have to make an international call from the hotel excuse" at around 8 pm so I can go and hit a gogo. When in BKK I have zero interest in a western chic. Yes I know I am a bad person.
The Lek chain always tends to provide good massages all over BKK. They are known for their foot massages which are around 300 for the hour.
When in BKK I tend to go to one of the higher end places every second day. I probably hit Lek for a foot massage every day or at least most days.
[QUOTE=BubbaBoy;2233563]For a genuine massage at the higher end Dahra Beauty and Spa is consistently rated one of the best ones in BKK. They are like top 5 on trip advisor. They have 2 locations, 1 near ASOK and another in Silom. I have been to both and they are consistently 9 / 10. The price for a traditional 90 minutes massage is around 700 with tip and the oil massages start at around 1200 and can go up from there to 2000. It is strictly massage although they do sometimes massage very close to the balls and dick. I always think this is about to get interesting but then look at the lady who is always 40 + so even if they did offer extras it would not be worth it for a price / value aspect. For the record I have never been offered extras at this place. The facilities are like a 4 star or even 5 star hotel and very professional. Both facilities have like 15 rooms, maybe even 20 but do get booked out solid in the busier seasons from say November to March so it is best to call ahead in the morning for a afternoon booking or book online..[/QUOTE]I never knew what an Onsen was till a chick (Spanish+Thai mix) who I hung out with multiple days in BKK took me there. The name of the place was Yunomori Onsen on Soi 26. Mainly Japanese clients but I saw some farang and also a young backpacker couple. At this place you can choose not to do the bath and head straight for the massage but it is cheaper to get the package that includes the bath and the massage. High quality friendly no nonsense massage.
[QUOTE=Dan7373;2233087]
[URL]http://www.edquestions.com/premature-ejaculation/can-the-stop-and-go-method-really-help-me-last-longer-with-premature-ejaculation/[/URL]
I'd say that the Stop-and-Go method isn't just about the physical technique. Because it's inconsistent with being a nice guy. You actually need to change your mindset and be able to see yourself as a selfish bastard. Or else, you will run into a mental barrier, and you won't be able to do it this way with your lady.[/QUOTE]Perhaps we could have a special thread for sex problems, since I hate reading about guys and their problems to get multiple pops when I maybe having difficulty to get the first one sometimes. LOL.
A girl once recommended Rhino herbal gel to make my dick stronger. In fact it had an anethestising effect and made my dick wilt very fast indeed. Still it might help you guys that need to lose feeling. Try also cough medicine. That caused my dick to lose a lot of feeling also. When all else fails have a few drinks first and a wank as well. Then you should cum slower with the girl.
I have a pause technique to allow my dick recover sensitivity lost by extended fucking. So don't stop too long or your dick will get more sensitive than before.
[QUOTE=Surut;2231611]I recently went to 101 premier massage in Bangkok. I initially had booked Cherry's but didn't like the line up and went for 101 premier. It is a clean place and no girls outside hounding you to get in. Once I am inside I was given a catalogue to choose from. Alternately you can pick from the line up. I chose MIX as the masseuse. One of the most kind and giving girls I met in Bangkok. It was 1. 5 hours I booked for 2 shots damages 2300 thb.
She first started with chit chat, post which she asked me to undress. Then she got into the shower with me. Oh my god her boobs were extremely beautiful and she had a smile to die for. We then went to the bed and she gave a great B2B oil massage. I was too horny by the end of it and had a very good time with her. She doesn't do DFK but BBBJ, and the sex was very satisfying.
I went back again for second round after 2 days and she did a much better job as she had a repeat customer!
Tips 500 the. Should have given her more.[/QUOTE]I thought it was a Japanese oriented shop, so I never went it. Are they open to men of other nationalities like Whites, Arabic, Indian etc?
[QUOTE=RonnieMonger;2230213]Picked Took Ta (gecko).
Small 28 reasonably good looking. Paid around 2,000 for massage, BJ, FS 1 HR. They even spell it out in the menu.
Room has a shower like all other oilies but has a massage table instead of a bed. That was the first turn off. Time for the BJ and she asks if I want a condom. So of course I say no, and she asks how much more will I give her for BBBJ- I said no more money. She said then no BBBJ- so I gave in to her demand for an extra 500 baht. So then she lathers my dick up with gel and gives me 90% HJ and barely 10% BJ. Now I'm getting frustrated and kind of turned off. So I take back control and get her kneeling on the floor and me sitting on edge of msg table. She keeps doing the 3 second BJ 20 second HJ routine. Finally gets me up. But no kissing, don't touch my pussy, and I'm thinking what a fucking mistake this was. Then she does the hard to get inside routine and I give up. She finishes me with a sloppy HJ. Avoid.[/QUOTE]Almost non contact sex.
Girls with attitude.
Spends over half the time in lame massage.
Demand extra money for BJ etc.
[QUOTE=AssLover945;2233752]I thought it was a Japanese oriented shop, so I never went it. Are they open to men of other nationalities like Whites, Arabic, Indian etc?[/QUOTE]I haven't been at 101 Premier Massage, but you can look at their website in English at the link below. Which means that they probably welcome everybody.
[URL]http://www.101premiermassage.com/en/masseuses/[/URL]
[B]Analisa. Avoid this place like plague![/B]
[QUOTE=AssLover945;2233754]Almost non contact sex.
Girls with attitude.
Spends over half the time in lame massage.
Demand extra money for BJ etc.[/QUOTE]I suppose the extremely negative reviews of late have been for the Analisa Massage on Sukhumvit Soi 6, on that little passway between Kasalong Bar just off Soi 8 and the Soi 6 route to Soi 4. But I have seen another Analisa Massage sign show up on what is actually Rathadaphisek Road (called Asok on the other side of Sukhumvit Road) around the corner from Sukhumvit Road across from Terminal 21 mall. They cite that one on their website as their main branch and give a better description of the location than I did here and show a map of it. Maybe this is old news for the massage shop buffs here.
However, the main reason I mentioned it and the map on the Analisa website is that Som's Haven BJ Bar is no longer in its original nearby Soi 14 location. It is now also around the corner from Sukhumvit Road on Ratchadaphisek Road on that same small sub soi occupied by that branch of Analisa Massage. And I did not see Som's old sign touting her place as Som's Haven. Instead, there is a sign overhead on the building itself touting Duanaporn Massage. Not sure if that is the new name for Som's Haven or not.
Weird really. I stopped by to check out the new location, saw Som sitting outside with her girls, she stood up and gave me a hug and I asked if Duanaporn Massage was the new name for Som's Haven and she just smiled, didn't give me an answer. I did not partake or take a girl at the time but wanted to mention the new location here. Maybe it is old news on this thread and I missed it, but nothing came up on a thread Search for "Som's Haven".