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[QUOTE=Turgid;2476409]Scandinavian men born in and growing up in their respective countries do not need the services of prostitutes. Scandinavian women give in to sex with their men very easily. When I visited Denmark and Sweden in 1992 I found the women so very friendly and easy to ask out on a date. In Denmark a young beautiful 18 year old girl who I never thought would have been friendly with me went on a date with me. I met her at a swimming pool complex where she was with her younger sister. Scandinavian women are super friendly.[/QUOTE]I agree, but not everyone can take advantage of liberal attitudes towards sex in Scandinavia. Speaking of Denmark it has an active sex scene, with plenty of escorts, massage parlors, and brothels since prostitution is legal. I don't think too many people know about that.
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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2476284]Correct me if I'm wrong, but like Norway, can Sweden prosecute their citizens if partaking in prostitution even in countries where it is legal? If so, they are probably not so forthcoming in revealing their nation of origin. Also, Swedes speak English pretty well. I personally have a difficult time discerning a distinct Swedish accent when speaking to a Swede in clubs. I've even sensed a bit of hesitation when I do ask about their country of origin.
[/QUOTE]Sweden won't prosecute anyone for going to a FKK. On the other hand the real price is being found out since that will immediately destroy your career, business and possibly friendships too.
I speak the language so I know when I hear it who is speaking it. I understand that Swedes are probably there alone and have no reason to be speaking Swedish but the truth is that every time I heard Swedish spoken it was some sort of Turk. I saw an comment here about them being caucasian white. Yes, caucasian, I. E. Not white. Caucasus is an area where people are various forms of Turks. People have light skin but they aren't white in any cultural sense of the word. Any Swede will immediately see the diffference since it's obvious.
Let's not go overboard on that angle. I, as a Swedish speaker, just dispute that there are many real Swedes at Artemis. At least in groups. Like I say, everytime it's been some form of Turks. I've heard them already at the airport sometimes when I've had other reasons to go to Berlin too.
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[QUOTE=Bfsie;2476410]Update about prostitution situation in Saarland.
Prostitution is allowed again due to the judge's verdict in Saarland, but as long as the official rules for it are not clear, it cannot, at least officially, be exercised.
Source: [URL]https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de/saarland/landespolitik/prostitution-im-saarland-wieder-erlaubt-regeln-dafuer-aber-noch-offen_aid-52746039[/URL].
So it is still a rocky road. In the meantime, the "Working Group on Prostitution Sites of the Federal States" is developing rules on how prostitution can take place in the future, taking the Corona measures into account, and which special paths municipalities can take.
Source: [URL]https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/inland/politik-inland/prostitution-in-corona-zeiten-diese-sex-regeln-sollen-kuenftig-in-bordellen-gelt-72397468[/URL][/QUOTE]Prostitution don't mean brothels where crowd. Let s see if big Artemis will really open? If really, then after Mont Ventoux and with new engine, I will make such a run at night, cleaning from Aachen autobahn to go to discover Berlin.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2476498]Prostitution don't mean brothels where crowd. Let s see if big Artemis will really open? If really, then after Mont Ventoux and with new engine, I will make such a run at night, cleaning from Aachen autobahn to go to discover Berlin.[/QUOTE]I am surprised you never been to Artemis or Berlin. They are both really fine place. But line up was better before like all other FKKs.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2476491]Sweden won't prosecute anyone for going to a FKK. On the other hand the real price is being found out since that will immediately destroy your career, business and possibly friendships too.
I speak the language so I know when I hear it who is speaking it. I understand that Swedes are probably there alone and have no reason to be speaking Swedish but the truth is that every time I heard Swedish spoken it was some sort of Turk. I saw an comment here about them being caucasian white. Yes, caucasian, I. E. Not white. Caucasus is an area where people are various forms of Turks. People have light skin but they aren't white in any cultural sense of the word. Any Swede will immediately see the diffference since it's obvious.
Let's not go overboard on that angle. I, as a Swedish speaker, just dispute that there are many real Swedes at Artemis. At least in groups. Like I say, everytime it's been some form of Turks. I've heard them already at the airport sometimes when I've had other reasons to go to Berlin too.[/QUOTE]Personal experience, I've met about a half dozen white Swedes in FKKs, and yeah, they've always been alone. Strangely enough, have never met a Turkish-Swede. Maybe because I always assume any Turkish person in FKKs are just German.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2476491]Sweden won't prosecute anyone for going to a FKK. On the other hand the real price is being found out since that will immediately destroy your career, business and possibly friendships too.
I speak the language so I know when I hear it who is speaking it. I understand that Swedes are probably there alone and have no reason to be speaking Swedish but the truth is that every time I heard Swedish spoken it was some sort of Turk. I saw an comment here about them being caucasian white. Yes, caucasian, I. E. Not white. Caucasus is an area where people are various forms of Turks. People have light skin but they aren't white in any cultural sense of the word. Any Swede will immediately see the diffference since it's obvious.
Let's not go overboard on that angle. I, as a Swedish speaker, just dispute that there are many real Swedes at Artemis. At least in groups. Like I say, everytime it's been some form of Turks. I've heard them already at the airport sometimes when I've had other reasons to go to Berlin too.[/QUOTE]Blond with white skin Swedish would not go to prostitutes? I'm sure they were plenty on sex boats with Estonia, with girls complaining about violence in paid sex. I think we had 1 Danish here before. Scandinavians are not so different, they also need sex, and I find Swedish women less pretty than in 80's when they made us dream, maybe because we couldn't see beauties behind the wall.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2476373]With new law, since 1 January 2018 , all prostitutes and escorts are, have to register to work in Germany, and to pay tax according to income, even they can lie about income, like with us. Some girls stopped because they didn't want to register. Mio. De can t work anymore in Germany because she doesn't want to register, so she tour at Globe. Manga girl, but lovely.[/QUOTE]The fact that they have to register doesn't mean they will do it. And if they are paying tax according to their income what is the 25 euro for tax they pay to FKK in addition to their entry fee?
No one knows about their income.
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[QUOTE=Bfsie;2476410]Update about prostitution situation in Saarland.
Prostitution is allowed again due to the judge's verdict in Saarland, but as long as the official rules for it are not clear, it cannot, at least officially, be exercised.
Source: [URL]https://www.saarbruecker-zeitung.de/saarland/landespolitik/prostitution-im-saarland-wieder-erlaubt-regeln-dafuer-aber-noch-offen_aid-52746039[/URL].
So it is still a rocky road. In the meantime, the "Working Group on Prostitution Sites of the Federal States" is developing rules on how prostitution can take place in the future, taking the Corona measures into account, and which special paths municipalities can take.
Source: [URL]https://www.bild.de/bild-plus/politik/inland/politik-inland/prostitution-in-corona-zeiten-diese-sex-regeln-sollen-kuenftig-in-bordellen-gelt-72397468[/URL][/QUOTE]You have to have a BildPlus account to read the article on bil. De.
Maybe someone can summarize or even copy and paste?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2476392]You are a very literal person, Mr. Ho.
Yes, I am sure that all escorts are required to register.
But what if they don't?
How does the German police detective find 'Sunshine" who advertises as an escort to confirm her registration, particularly if the website she advertises on is not located in Germany?
Sex work has less than 100 percent perfect compliance with registration, taxation and government pension contribution systems.[/QUOTE]With sting operations. For example, police acting as a client.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2476373]With new law, since 1 January 2018 , all prostitutes and escorts are, have to register to work in Germany, and to pay tax according to income, even they can lie about income, like with us. Some girls stopped because they didn't want to register. Mio. De can t work anymore in Germany because she doesn't want to register, so she tour at Globe. Manga girl, but lovely.[/QUOTE]I thought the law was since July 2017. Manga girl? She likes manga or she looks like a character from manga?
Globe has few German talents, I enjoyed very much and I guess it is partly due to new law pushing these German girls out of Germany to work in Switzerland where you do not need to register as you mentioned.
But I did find many German girls after July 2017 and I am not sure if they registered or not.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2476637]I thought the law was since July 2017. Manga girl? She likes manga or she looks like a character from manga?
Globe has few German talents, I enjoyed very much and I guess it is partly due to new law pushing these German girls out of Germany to work in Switzerland where you do not need to register as you mentioned.
But I did find many German girls after July 2017 and I am not sure if they registered or not.[/QUOTE]Switzerland requires registration according to Wiki.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2476636]With sting operations. For example, police acting as a client.[/QUOTE]Happens in the movies, not so much in real life.
There are a number of practical problems.
It is time-intensive. The policeman, or policemen, need to block off a significant block of time to show up for the appointment and demand that she produce registration documentation.
Most jurisdictions don't provide an exemption for the police to get free products or services in conjunction with an investigation. So if the policeman buys an hour, he has to pay (especially when she in fact produces her registration card). And if he pays for the hour out of taxpayer funds, it is going to be unpopular with many of those taxpayers if he has sex with her.
So the police are unlikely to do registration sting operations regarding escorts registering as sex workers.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2476581]Blond with white skin Swedish would not go to prostitutes? [/QUOTE]They don't go to Artemis in groups. There was a report in the news a few days ago. 78 percent of the men caught visiting prostitutes were born abroad. Immigrants born in Sweden wasn't included.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2476581]I'm sure they were plenty on sex boats with Estonia, with girls complaining about violence in paid sex. I think we had 1 Danish here before. Scandinavians are not so different, they also need sex, and I find Swedish women less pretty than in 80's when they made us dream, maybe because we couldn't see beauties behind the wall.[/QUOTE]I know of only case of violence. Two Swedish men were murdered by Estonians when they visited prostitutes in Tallinn.
There's more. I go to Amsterdam for work sometimes. There's always some Swedish colleague trying to be funny about girls or drugs. If you go to Germany there are no, absolutely no, such questions.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2476544]I am surprised you never been to Artemis or Berlin. They are both really fine place. But line up was better before like all other FKKs.[/QUOTE]Girls are wrong when they say: this guy goes everywhere, seeing me in Germany, Spain, NL, Switzerland and Austria, but not Artemis. I was always told Artemis is land of tattoos and silicon, not for me and far from Paris.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2476741]They don't go to Artemis in groups. There was a report in the news a few days ago. 78 percent of the men caught visiting prostitutes were born abroad. Immigrants born in Sweden wasn't included.
I know of only case of violence. Two Swedish men were murdered by Estonians when they visited prostitutes in Tallinn.
There's more. I go to Amsterdam for work sometimes. There's always some Swedish colleague trying to be funny about girls or drugs. If you go to Germany there are no, absolutely no, such questions.[/QUOTE]You never heard about these sex boats between Stockholm and Tallin, just after new law to prosecute clients. Poor have more risks to be caught when they go to street girls. How do You want I can be caught when I go to escorts in apartments, same for blond Swedish, they are just not caught, don t mean they don t go to prostitutes. I m sure they go, like in other country, and despite law.