Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2773595]I hear you. I haven't been going to hk or zona a lot the lastb3 weeks even though I'm in Tijuana 3 days a week. I just all of a sudden got bored of it. A lot of the times I went previously was just because I had the free drink VIP card or I wanted to drink but don't like to drink sitting in hotel. Maybe its because I haven't been finding any girls at all who would flirt with me properly. Some would dance a little and were friendly. But the last 300 I spent on drinks for them not one was turning me on to get me to pay for sex. So it got to the point in didn't want to buy drinks and once I'm not buying drinks for them then hk can be boring after 15 minutes. I went a couple days ago lasted 10 minutes had my free drink and walked back to my hotel. The whole scene reminds me of baseball. Loved it for 30 yrs then one day didn't want to watch anymore. No one particular reason.[/QUOTE]Same here. For some weird reason I got fed up with the Zona Norte bars. Nowadays I cannot last more than 1 hour in HK. It feels like watching the same movie over and over and over again. I am sure I spend more time wandering downtown than in the Zona Norte.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2773595]I hear you. I haven't been going to hk or zona a lot the lastb3 weeks even though I'm in Tijuana 3 days a week. I just all of a sudden got bored of it. A lot of the times I went previously was just because I had the free drink VIP card or I wanted to drink but don't like to drink sitting in hotel. Maybe its because I haven't been finding any girls at all who would flirt with me properly. Some would dance a little and were friendly. But the last 300 I spent on drinks for them not one was turning me on to get me to pay for sex. So it got to the point in didn't want to buy drinks and once I'm not buying drinks for them then hk can be boring after 15 minutes. I went a couple days ago lasted 10 minutes had my free drink and walked back to my hotel. The whole scene reminds me of baseball. Loved it for 30 yrs then one day didn't want to watch anymore. No one particular reason.[/QUOTE]The waiters just kill the vibe in hk. I wish we could mesh the American strip club with the cost of girls and legality of hk. I went to a San Francisco strip club recently and the girls were hot and you only had 2 servers who were women. That part was great but the cost of the lapdances were ridiculous combined with the fact there's no sex. If I could walk in hk with only 4 servers that don't bother you and aren't forced to reach a quota with all those girls with 1 HR rooms. It would be gold. The closest we have is dejavu but there aren't enough hot girls in there but the servers are cool and leave you alone.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2773758]The waiters just kill the vibe in hk. I wish we could mesh the American strip club with the cost of girls and legality of hk. I went to a San Francisco strip club recently and the girls were hot and you only had 2 servers who were women. That part was great but the cost of the lapdances were ridiculous combined with the fact there's no sex. If I could walk in hk with only 4 servers that don't bother you and aren't forced to reach a quota with all those girls with 1 HR rooms. It would be gold. The closest we have is dejavu but there aren't enough hot girls in there but the servers are cool and leave you alone.[/QUOTE]You bring up a good point. Every other brothel usually has female hostesses and waitresses. Mexico seems to hire men for some reason, but then again if the waitresses are cute, then they probably would be short timed as well and you'd have bad service. Aww the dilemma for the service industry. The only thing that kills my vibe is bad BO, but most of the meseros are just trying to make a living. Never have problems waving them off or giving the thumbs up. They are working for their tips just like the girls.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2773888]You bring up a good point. Every other brothel usually has female hostesses and waitresses. Mexico seems to hire men for some reason, but then again if the waitresses are cute, then they probably would be short timed as well and you'd have bad service. Aww the dilemma for the service industry. The only thing that kills my vibe is bad BO, but most of the meseros are just trying to make a living. Never have problems waving them off or giving the thumbs up. They are working for their tips just like the girls.[/QUOTE]I used to go to the gay bar to be surrounded by woman Maseras and 2 quick pregame beers. But yeah who wants to be surrounded by men? I can go to a san diego bar for that. My problem with the waiters is if you try and buy a drink it can become a nightmare with the begging to buy food and if the girl doesn't completely brush him off he won't care if you tell him flat out no he waits till you canve because the girl wants to make money for the other staff so she's gona order food if you let her. That will take 30 minutes. So what happens then? I have to buy 3 more drinks? Pass.

Thinking of shifting my focus on future trips to Tijuana to sticking to visiting HK during the day mostly. I've passed on several nice girls working dayshift because I had the mindset of waiting til night for the hottest girls and to avoid doing too many sessions in a day.

The club is often too crowded at night. There are still a lot of very nice girls during the day.

The ultimate hk would be if they ran it like 4 x4 in Brazil. No male waiters at all. If you like a girl, you sit with her and she gets up and gets the 2 drinks at the bar. You pay a little extra for her drink so she can make money which is fine. You can go to the room later or tell her to get a couple more drinks so you can grab ass more. I know hk will never do this because the servers pay to work there, so they don't care how many men are there.

[QUOTE=Rainman306;2773929]Thinking of shifting my focus on future trips to Tijuana to sticking to visiting HK during the day mostly. I've passed on several nice girls working dayshift because I had the mindset of waiting til night for the hottest girls and to avoid doing too many sessions in a day.

The club is often too crowded at night. There are still a lot of very nice girls during the day.[/QUOTE]Do agree club being to too crowded at night. There is some tipping point where something happens when it is too crowded. I think the girls attitudes change. It makes no sense but it seems harder to find the right girl as there are to many to choose from.

I don't think the mesero's kill the vibe as HK has a crazy vibe that is a bit amazing. I do think it would be better if more female waitresses were working so not sure why they are all men. I would bet there is a perception that guys will be more persistent in pushing / selling drinks but I don't think that would be the case, the waitresses could be just as pushy if management wanted them to be.

-G.

[QUOTE=KBToys;2773888]You bring up a good point. Every other brothel usually has female hostesses and waitresses. Mexico seems to hire men for some reason, but then again if the waitresses are cute, then they probably would be short timed as well and you'd have bad service. Aww the dilemma for the service industry. The only thing that kills my vibe is bad BO, but most of the meseros are just trying to make a living. Never have problems waving them off or giving the thumbs up. They are working for their tips just like the girls.[/QUOTE]You definitely need male waitors / meseros in HK and you need a LOT of them for reasons of safety for the chicas. Because HK is a brothel where men are already allowed to be very intimate with the ladies (touching / fondling / having sex), the risk is much much higher for working girls to be assaulted by customers than in america. You need to have a lot of MALE waitors in these environments to break up these occurrences should they happen. Let's be honest, most people who visit HK are not the most upstanding citizens of mexico or america. We are "molesting" women's bodies. Except there is a good portion of men that frequent these clubs who take it too far. Having male waitors is essential to protecting the safety of the chicas.

[QUOTE=Rainman306;2773929]Thinking of shifting my focus on future trips to Tijuana to sticking to visiting HK during the day mostly. I've passed on several nice girls working dayshift because I had the mindset of waiting til night for the hottest girls and to avoid doing too many sessions in a day.

The club is often too crowded at night. There are still a lot of very nice girls during the day.[/QUOTE]Used to be that HK in the daytime (and by that I mean 2 pm to 7 pm) could be really rewarding. Easy to find a secluded table, not too many meseros on shift, and and always a few chicas worth spending time over.

Nowadays, there is too much pressure to sell, sell, sell shit in the club, half of the Chavelas side is closed until the evening, and if HK is dead then the rest of the ZN will be crickets.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2774042]You definitely need male waitors / meseros in HK and you need a LOT of them for reasons of safety for the chicas. Because HK is a brothel where men are already allowed to be very intimate with the ladies (touching / fondling / having sex), the risk is much much higher for working girls to be assaulted by customers than in america. You need to have a lot of MALE waitors in these environments to break up these occurrences should they happen. Let's be honest, most people who visit HK are not the most upstanding citizens of mexico or america. We are "molesting" women's bodies. Except there is a good portion of men that frequent these clubs who take it too far. Having male waitors is essential to protecting the safety of the chicas.[/QUOTE]Every strip club, brothel, and sex work place I've visited around the world have women as waitresses and door girls. You have male security teams and cameras. I guess it is good to have meseros in case things go down, but the only fights I've seen inside the club have been working girl on working girl pulling hair and slapping. Mongers don't really fight over a sexworker as it is just your turn. The only other fights I've seen during my travels have been when a gringo / falang insults the locals and gets a beat down by the group. I have been told by girls that work at Tropical that they are paid to work to sell drinks for the bar, but then again not sure if they are told what else the job entails. Technically they are maseras, but don’t have to do the leg work to bring the drink to you.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2774042]You definitely need male waitors / meseros in HK and you need a LOT of them for reasons of safety for the chicas. Because HK is a brothel where men are already allowed to be very intimate with the ladies (touching / fondling / having sex), the risk is much much higher for working girls to be assaulted by customers than in america. You need to have a lot of MALE waitors in these environments to break up these occurrences should they happen. Let's be honest, most people who visit HK are not the most upstanding citizens of mexico or america. We are "molesting" women's bodies. Except there is a good portion of men that frequent these clubs who take it too far. Having male waitors is essential to protecting the safety of the chicas.[/QUOTE]Most ridiculous post ever. You can have security at different parts of the club like a regular strip club in the states. Let the girls bring the drinks to the table and get their commission. Waiters are worthless. I've never seen a fight in 20 years of going.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2774325]Most ridiculous post ever. You can have security at different parts of the club like a regular strip club in the states. Let the girls bring the drinks to the table and get their commission. Waiters are worthless. I've never seen a fight in 20 years of going.[/QUOTE]I actually for the first time in 20 years saw a fight in HK. It was between a girl that was a guest and a stripper. I was super entertaining! Visiting girl got kicked out, waiters were useless, security swarmed in.

[QUOTE=ABAJoeSmith123;2774042]You definitely need male waitors / meseros in HK and you need a LOT of them for reasons of safety for the chicas. Because HK is a brothel where men are already allowed to be very intimate with the ladies (touching / fondling / having sex), the risk is much much higher for working girls to be assaulted by customers than in america. You need to have a lot of MALE waitors in these environments to break up these occurrences should they happen. Let's be honest, most people who visit HK are not the most upstanding citizens of mexico or america. We are "molesting" women's bodies. Except there is a good portion of men that frequent these clubs who take it too far. Having male waitors is essential to protecting the safety of the chicas.[/QUOTE]Male staff in brothels, sex clubs etc. Is a turn off and flat out annoying. In Thailand for instance, all the waitresses and bartenders are female at whatever sort of sex establishment which to me is a better environment. You're there to be around all feminine energy, not masculine. One of my fondest memories is going to a bar in Pattaya which had all female staff and I happened to be the only customer. I'm sitting at the bar talking with one of the chicas and next thing I know she's giving me a BJ right there on the spot in front of the other girls. An experience I'll always remember. If there were male staff, I certainly wouldn't have engaged in this.

I would assume the reason hk has 600 male waiters is because it provides good jobs to 600 men. For instance if they just hired 200 woman, where in the community will the support be for hk when it comes to dealing with the federal. State and local politicians. Never mind "other" unspoken groups who control mexixo. The support to keep hk in existence would then only come from woman, and woman do not carry the same weight they do in usa. Better to have both men and woman making a living off hk. Then everyone would be angry if it was shut down. Plus the fly into hk girls would be angry to compete with the maseras. Many drunk guys would prefer a masera who hasn't seen dick in a day or two over a hotter hk girl. I probably will never by a ficha drink for a girl again after the last few times being swarmed by the food guy or the lap dance room guy. Its not like 7 yrs ago where you sit at a table and have ten minutes of flirting. If you took a timer out you probably never reach 60 seconds without another salesmen in your face and they won't leave until the girl says to they do not care what you think unless you look Intimidating which I do not.

What goes on in HK on New Years? Crowded? Good selection of chicas? Cover charge?