Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Anaggie;2836683]Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.

I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.

Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6. 5-8. 5.

I was the only client at that time, so all the girls came and sat where I was on the patio so that I could get a good look at them. I ended up buying a bottle of gin since I was going to be there for at least six hours and found a 22 year old spinner to join me for drinks. Approximately an hour later, a group of locals came in and and they occupied a bunch girls as they bought a bunch of bottles.

Took her up to the room for the first round and she did a pretty good job. Since I had spent the Weekend with another girl from Scandello, I was able to last a longer time, and she had the stamina to keep going till I finally came. Room cost was 260. Her service was BBBJ and CFS with no anal.

I went back downstairs and we got something to eat while I talked with the ISG brother who met up with me in SP all weekend.

Went out for round two with the same girl approx 1. 5 hrs later and it took even longer for me to come. She kept up and took it like a champ, till I finally came. We headed back downstairs and we finished off the bottle, bid my friend goodbye and headed for the airport.

Downstairs, I paid the bill, grabbed my bags, change my clothes in the downstairs bathroom and got in my Uber to the airport slightly drunk and completely spent.

The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.

I left for the airport at 815 pm, checked in and through immigration in approximately 20 minutes. Since I have status with AA and flying business class, this was easy. I don't know how long it would take if you didn't have status or flying in economy.

Scandello turned out to be a fun afternoon!![/QUOTE]Love how you roll man. Two pops at the best club in the world before your flight. I am the same way. Can never squeeze in enough hotties. Tired? Spent? Fucked out? Yeah but always room for one more experience! Bring it on!

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2836752]Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?[/QUOTE]Sorry. Got confused. I haven't been to Dcandello at night since April and forgot what the cover was.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2836766]500 yesterday.[/QUOTE]Whew!! Good!! Thanks for the update!

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2836384]P.S. The girls don't care if a customer pays them in cash out of his pocket in the room after sex or the customer's credit card is charged at the front desk for the girl's service fee by the Scandallo hotel reception which then hands the cash to the girl before the two of you go to your room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Based on this and other reports, it seems the girls will accept being paid after the service in the room, without insisting on being paid up front.

Is the standard service typically single pop in the hour? Is BBBJ & DATY included in the standard service?

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Among the Clinicas I have seen in this forum, I am considering the following for my 5 Day trip in Sept: Prime, Abbobora, Palms, Ora Spa, Tag Mahal, Tangara.

My type is thin-average, young (19-27), 5'3-5'7, and facially pretty. I am not into the big butt or porno look (heavy, botox lips, goth tattoo look), if this helps.

Out of these Clinica choices above, are there some you would strongly not recommend or vice versa?

Thanks, will report on my journey and experience post Sept. I do plan to go to Scandello, and I'm considering other Boates too as I have read that Scandello prices have shot up (and just good to have a choices and see for yourself).

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2836955]Thanks for the info. Based on this and other reports, it seems the girls will accept being paid after the service in the room, without insisting on being paid up front.

Is the standard service typically single pop in the hour? Is BBBJ & DATY included in the standard service?[/QUOTE]Paying after service is performed is the default at Scandallo and Bomboa. Girls can be paid in advance, but only when a customer chooses to use his credit card to pay for a girl's service instead of cash. I usually bring enough cash to the boate to pay for a girl and I like to put all other expenses on the credit card, but on certain occasions I will find myself short of cash if I decide to have a 2nd girl. That is when the flexibility to charge a girl's service fee comes in real handy.

Passionate DFK, multiple BBBJ's and DATY (up to me) and a whole lot more are all a part of the "standard boate service. " But as always, YMMV, which is why the interview, ie the audition, ie the initial get acquainted drink phase of the relationship is so important, but overall great service is what I expect from all my boate girls and I am seldom disappointed. Service is set for one hour. Most girls are real obliging and will do multiple shots. Going a little into overtime is not a problem.

Just got back from Clinica prime. This was my first session since arriving from rio. If this is any representation of the girls of sao paolo, I have to say the difference in quality of girls between rio and sao paolo is like night and day. There were about 7 or 8 girls there, 3 of which I would say were doable for me. Ranging from 5 - 7. I took a session with Alysee. Not sure if that's exactly how you pronounce her name. She was a short, maybe brunette with a girl next door smile. The lady at the desk told me I could only have 30 minutes because she had a booked appointment coming soon. Fine, that's all I wanted anyways. Went into the first room on the left as instructed, and alysee soon followed a few minutes later. Honesty, on closer inspection she had a bit too much makeup on for me and obviously long fake lashes, so I knocked her rating down mentally to a 6. 5. She had a very business like attitude and took a shower first. I took a shower afterwards. She asked me where I was from and that was pretty much all the pre talk. She came close to me and started kissing me with strong lips, not DFK, but nice none the less. She stroked me as I stroked her shaven pussy. I motioned towards the bed and laid on my back and she immediately began oral, pretty good oral in fact, but felt like it was all part of the routine, couldn't have been more than a minute of BBBJ and she reached for the condom. After putting the condom, without prompting she assumed doggie position on all fours. Great. She knows what to do. I entered and man, she had one of those puffy pussies. I don't know if its just a correlation but all the puffy pussies I've tried have been incredible. Maybe its the extra puffy flesh outside that gives us more friction. It was heavenly. We went through a few different positions. Missionary, reverse cowboy. Interestingly, when in missionary, she didn't want to kiss me, turing her head to the side. Odd, because at the beginning she seemed really into kissing. I finished at the 15 minute mark quite happily. Afterwards, I asked her how long she had been working there. My luck, today was her last day working, and tomorrow she'll go back to curatiba. Best 200 reales I've spent in a while.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837156]Just got back from Clinica prime. This was my first session since arriving from rio. If this is any representation of the girls of sao paolo, I have to say the difference in quality of girls between rio and sao paolo is like night and day. There were about 7 or 8 girls there, 3 of which I would say were doable for me. Ranging from 5 - 7. I took a session with Alysee. Not sure if that's exactly how you pronounce her name. She was a short, maybe brunette with a girl next door smile. The lady at the desk told me I could only have 30 minutes because she had a booked appointment coming soon. Fine, that's all I wanted anyways. Went into the first room on the left as instructed, and alysee soon followed a few minutes later. Honesty, on closer inspection she had a bit too much makeup on for me and obviously long fake lashes, so I knocked her rating down mentally to a 6. 5. She had a very business like attitude and took a shower first. I took a shower afterwards. She asked me where I was from and that was pretty much all the pre talk. She came close to me and started kissing me with strong lips, not DFK, but nice none the less. She stroked me as I stroked her shaven pussy. I motioned towards the bed and laid on my back and she immediately began oral, pretty good oral in fact, but felt like it was all part of the routine, couldn't have been more than a minute of BBBJ and she reached for the condom. After putting the condom, without prompting she assumed doggie position on all fours. Great. She knows what to do. I entered and man, she had one of those puffy pussies. I don't know if its just a correlation but all the puffy pussies I've tried have been incredible. Maybe its the extra puffy flesh outside that gives us more friction. It was heavenly. We went through a few different positions. Missionary, reverse cowboy. Interestingly, when in missionary, she didn't want to kiss me, turing her head to the side. Odd, because at the beginning she seemed really into kissing. I finished at the 15 minute mark quite happily. Afterwards, I asked her how long she had been working there. My luck, today was her last day working, and tomorrow she'll go back to curatiba. Best 200 reales I've spent in a while.[/QUOTE]The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?

[QUOTE=LAHenry;2836991] Prime, Abbobora, Palms, Ora Spa, Tag Mahal, Tangara.

My type is thin-average, young (19-27), 5'3-5'7, and facially pretty.
[/QUOTE]My small sample size (I have similar tastes), Prime had a few that fit the profile more than Tangara in early April. Didn't visit the others yet.

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[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2751944]I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?

Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.

Sao Paulo.

Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.

Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.

All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.

Campinas.

Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.

Porto alegre.

Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy..[/QUOTE]I posted this while ago and wanted to made an update as well a correction:

First the correction in Medellin instead of Luna lunera I meant to say la isla. I was just in Medellin last month and visited Luna luna lunera and was not great granted went later in the night than I should have. La isla is still the best quality and quantity of girls in Medellin I even gave fase II another try actually was worse this time. Second I have since been to Thailand, Cali, Rio, and Tijuana, and will update with venues I previously left out of the last post. The objective is compare posible alternatives to Scandallo (spoiler there are none that match up IMO):

Cali.

Since the last post I have visited Cali twice and two clubs stand out:

Tangas luxury.

This one has an extremely high quality level of girls however very expensive to Cali standards you cannot take a girl out of the place for less than 1 M COP. Not sure of the room rates but not my thing. I probably did not go on peak time but the place is 24 hours. At 10-11 PM there were 15 + and counting but I took out two 9 and a 10 looks wise. This place has potential to rival the quality of scandallo but will need review again I will probably go again to Cali in a few months and give an update. But will never have close to the quantity of girls in scandallo.

Club escoces.

Another place in Cali that can rival the quality but not quantity. I don't think there will ever be much more than 10 girls in the place given the size but quality is on par and price is obviously lower. Worth checking out if in Cali for sure.

Bangkok.

Thermae.

This place is probably my second favorite venue in the world mostly because of the objectiveness of the place and also low cost for high quality looks of the girls. I have taken 5 total girls from here and all have been 8 or above in terms of service and looks. This is the only place I will note in Thailand because most of the gogo bars have small quantity of girls and all seem to be the same maybe give crezy horse a shout out as they had a good level of quality girls you can see nude to make an informed decision. Clubs like mix and levels have both pros and non pros and involves too much work for me. But overall I think thermae tops my list.

Tijuana.

Hong Kong is probably the one place where you can say the quantity and quality looks wise matches up with scandallo however service is no guarantee. I did have a GFE BBBJ that apparently is rare. While she was great she would not go to my hotel and only sessioned in the motel next to Hong Kong. Also cost for two hours was similar to what I would pay for all night with a scandallo girl. Concept here is different and definitely a lot of eye candy to look at but I found to be expensive to take any girl to the room. I also tried Chicago and a few other clubs in zona norte but Hong Kong is the best. Only recommend if in Tijuana there are plenty of better options in south America for sure.

Rio.

Finally visited 4 X4 twice on my visit to Rio. It meets the expectations set and has a similar feel to scandallo with less girls and not all a the high quality you can expect at scandallo. I did get a 10 in terms of service and looks and repeated with her. Second time I went did not session. Will go back for sure. Also checked out whiskeria 65 and revisited Centaurus that was not that great and also expensive. But 4 X 4 is the best place in Rio and one of the best places in the world for me.

Overall Ranking:

Given these updates I have decided to rank based on my preference of the places I have been granted I have not yet been to Frankfurt to check out the DFK clubs this is pending conclusion scandalo is by far number one on my list:

1- Scandalo. Sao Paulo.

2- Thermae. Bangkok.

3- 4 X 4 - Rio de Janeiro.

4 - Casarao. Sao Paulo.

5 - Tangas Luxury. Cali.

6 - Bahamas-Sao Paulo.

7 - Lido. Bogota.

8 - Bomboa. Sao Paulo.

9 - La Isla. Medellin.

10 - Gruta azul. Porto Alegre.

11- Tia Carmen. Porto Alegre.

12- Fase II. Medellin.

13 - Hong Kong. Tijuana.

14 - Escoces. Cali.

15- Fazendinha. Campinas.

Other notable places I was too lazy to rank this is not in order:

Crazy horse (Bangkok).

All girls nude and could probably break this 15 list but a different concept.

Galo de Ouro (itatinga-Campinas).

The best girls in itatinga but high probably of being scammed robbed or not a great session overall. Run by the Brazilian cartels would not recommend for a tourist (I am Brazilian).

Mustache (campinas).

A bar in the middle of cambui only a few girls and high prices to take out. Basicaly a strip club where the girls play some tease games and you can take out. Has been many years since I went but would prefer fazendinha for quality and quantity.

New locomotion (Missassauga Canada).

Cafe foto (Sao Paulo).

Villa roma (Munich).

Very expensive I think I paid 500+ euros for an hour threesome hot but not worth the price.

Ceasars world / Leierkasten / and Vitalia (Munich).

These places are laufhauses basically apartments the girls rent and you can just do them in there rooms. Did a couple of times most girls don't give BBBJ none or few give GFE and I tried twice ok but at 100 Euros for 30 minutes not my go to.

Ipanema (Singapore).

Pretty trashy place in the mall chose the best girl there but was a 6 at best but service was poor.

New Sagitarious (Belo Horizonte).

Probably on par with gruta azul in PA but would not go to belo just for this place girl I got was a 10 however.

Domino (Porto Alegre).

Lots of girls but low quality would have to stay for a while to find a gem. Pretty trashy place.

Luna Lunera (Medellin).

I will have to check out again at a more peak time. Layout of the club has potential but don't like to cover charge and minimum spend requirement.

My issue with the girl fees at Scandallo is that once a girl steps in her rates has a minimum. Last time I was there a few weeks ago, I saw all ranges of girls. From stunners, average, ordinary, girl next door, midgets and girls I wouldn't be caught dead with. But no matter how bad looking or fugly, she has a minimum rate of 500. Price structure doesn't favour clients. You will always pay more than elsewhere. Price of the worst looking girl in club is equal to a stunner online.

[QUOTE=TheCritic;2836494]I share your curiosity since I have experienced two price (entrance) hikes. However, the entrance fee is not much my concern due to the consumable portion. Now the Talent rates that is another story. I can understand them trying to make a living but sometimes I just laugh at some of the quotes I have received. Overall, I try to have fun and see what my budget gets me. I do like AxelHeyst's cost strategy.[/QUOTE]

As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.

[QUOTE=Foolish;2837220]My small sample size (I have similar tastes), Prime had a few that fit the profile more than Tangara in early April. Didn't visit the others yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2837215]The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?[/QUOTE]For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2837360]As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.[/QUOTE]I prefer Abboboro to Prime. Over many SP trips, including my most recent May / June trip, I consistently seem to have more fun at Abboboro than at Prime and I find Abboboro girls are on average more attractive. Factoid: I went to Abboboro 5 times while I only went to Prime one time this last trip.

Interestingly, it was during my last trip, that Abboboro management started doing something new: Customers always had to pay the full price of 350 br for 60 minutes in advance at Abboboro, but now the girl at the front desk takes the girl's cut, 200 br, out of the total payment and places the money on the nightstand next to the bed in the assigned room. The girl is allowed to take the cash left for her when the session is over. I first experienced this bifurcated payment method at high-end SP clinicas like the Palm, Lotus Lounge and Sharon Premium. I like it because it emphasizes to the girls exactly where the cake is coming from and who they should take good care of.

Here is the SP price comparison: 1. A regular clinica like Abboboro, 200 goes to the girl / 150 to the house. 2. a high end clinical like the Palm, 350 to the girl (customers pay the girl directly after the session ends) / 400 to the house or in total 2 x the Abboboro price. 3. Scandallo or Bomboa with a tier 2 girl, 700 to 800 for the girl, 500 to the house, and 240 (approximately) for a room or exit fee to take the girl out of the club. Call it 1500 total or 2 x the Palm price.