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[QUOTE=Gabacho;2978670]The literal definition of "criminal" is someone who does something "illegal".
Trump is doing exactly what we wanted him to do and that is why we voted for him.[/QUOTE]In fact, Trump has never done anything illegal in his life.
(This whole thread will not last long. Everything will be erased soon or moved to "Stupid Shit in MDE". Let's enjoy crap till it lasts.).
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2978725]I hope Colmbia returns the favor and arrest all the Americans living in Colombia with expired or no visas the same way. Treat them like prisoners. Handcuff them and board them on military planes. I am sure you would agree with that treatment. Right?[/QUOTE]Why wouldn't they? Thats exactly what I would expect if the people wanted that done. Its their country and they have every right to expel whoever they please. Regardless of whether you have a visa or not to be frank. It might seem unfair to you, but that's the way it is. You come to my house, if I decide I don't want you there, you need to leave. The major difference between Colombians in the USA, and US citizens in Colombia is that US citizens bring all their money into Colombia and spend it there. Airbnbs, hotels, restaurants. Contributing to the economy. Colombians in the USA arrive and get free housing, free food, get jobs and send all their money back to Colombia. Extracting money from the US economy.
When I go to another country, I respect their rules and their culture. I don't expect to get asked to leave, but if I am asked to leave, then I would leave.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2978906]Why wouldn't they? Thats exactly what I would expect if the people wanted that done. Its their country and they have every right to expel whoever they please. Regardless of whether you have a visa or not to be frank. It might seem unfair to you, but that's the way it is. You come to my house, if I decide I don't want you there, you need to leave. The major difference between Colombians in the USA, and US citizens in Colombia is that US citizens bring all their money into Colombia and spend it there. Airbnbs, hotels, restaurants. Contributing to the economy. Colombians in the USA arrive and get free housing, free food, get jobs and send all their money back to Colombia. Extracting money from the US economy.
When I go to another country, I respect their rules and their culture. I don't expect to get asked to leave, but if I am asked to leave, then I would leave.[/QUOTE]That's likely why they allow it. Might as well have foreigners injecting currency into the country.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2978795]Even one of Trump's favorite Repub "Tops" could not deny it:
[B]Donald Trump Just 'Technically' Violated the Law; Lindsey Graham.[/B]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-lindsey-graham-inspectors-general-firing-2020984[/URL]
My my my. It is almost as if Trump is planning an orgy of good old fashioned Classic Repub Waste, Fraud and Abuse in his 2nd term to exceed that in his 1st term, which is really, really, really saying a lot!
BTW, what has been happening lately to the price of gas, eggs, groceries, damn I'm glad Trump invented that word, rent, mortgage loan rates, prescription drugs, shipped items in Walmart, Target, etc, etc, etc?[/QUOTE]Maybe its time we rein in pardon powers, I couldn't agree more, much of this bullshit started with Scumbag Bubba selling one to Marc Rich (they both should of been sent to prison for that alone!
[URL]https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/biden-grants-clemency-man-convicted-1999-killing-mother-son-bridgeport/3480717/[/URL]
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2978864]Not only is it legal for undocumented immigrants claiming to seek asylum to be here, it is not automatically a crime to be an undocumented immigrant anyway:
[B]Is Being an Undocumented Immigrant a Crime?[/B]
[URL]https://www.dharlawllp.com/is-being-an-undocumented-immigrant-a-crime/[/URL]
However, I do sincerely wish and pray that every American who passes by a farm and suspects there are undocumented migrants working on that farm to please for the love of God report them to the authorities so Trump can round them up, herd them onto the biggest and most expensive military aircraft on the planet, fly them over their home country, be refused landing, fly them back to the USA, harbor them there for a few days, fly them back over their home country, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, all while Trump is hopping up and down Yosimite Sam mad at whatever failed Trump golf resort he happens to be at that day, droning on in his hilarious "menacing" monotone about imposing 25%-200% Trump Tariffs on the American Consumer.
The same with all the suspected restaurant workers, hotel workers, janitorial and trash collection workers, construction workers, auto mechanics, child care service workers, maids, everyone and everything, everywhere all at once.
In fact, I am damned pissed that Trump did not get 'er done on Day One like he promised for the past 4 years. By now, one full unproductive golf-filled week into it, there ought to be NO undocumented immigrants performing any jobs anywhere in the USA!
I want the American people to get absolutely everything Trump promised them and for which they either voted or permitted to come about by not voting for Kamala Harris and every other Dem up and down their ballot.
They should get exactly that ASAP because they oh so richly deserve it.[/QUOTE]I called in between 2017-2021 and I have them on speed dial again as should everyone else!
[URL]https://www.ice.gov/contact[/URL]
There are plenty of Americans living in Colombia illegally. Mostly in the Medellin area. They are living off the low cost of living. Many of which never had a job paying more than minimum wage..
IF they were deported and treated like prisoners, it will be all over the news media in the USA as the "unjust" treatment of Americans.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2978906]Why wouldn't they? Thats exactly what I would expect if the people wanted that done. Its their country and they have every right to expel whoever they please. Regardless of whether you have a visa or not to be frank. It might seem unfair to you, but that's the way it is. You come to my house, if I decide I don't want you there, you need to leave. The major difference between Colombians in the USA, and US citizens in Colombia is that US citizens bring all their money into Colombia and spend it there. Airbnbs, hotels, restaurants. Contributing to the economy. Colombians in the USA arrive and get free housing, free food, get jobs and send all their money back to Colombia. Extracting money from the US economy.
When I go to another country, I respect their rules and their culture. I don't expect to get asked to leave, but if I am asked to leave, then I would leave.[/QUOTE]
Where did I write " foreigners doing illegal stuff " ?? I wrote about Americans overstaying their stay and taking advantage of the system.
You sure you are not smoking or snorting something ?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2978860]It seems you are the one smoking by saying that foreigners doing illegal stuff where it concerns the USA should not face the consequences that await them. Then you come here and assume people would not have a problem with Americans doing illegal stuff in Colombia, but nobody has leaned that way. (How could you even think that anyone would?) Everyone here has said that people doing illegal shit no matter where it is should face consequences. This is not about nationality. This is about mfs breaking laws regardless of where they are from.
If you are a guest in someone's house then you be on your best behavior. If someone does not allow you into their house, then you can not sneak in and expect there to not be consequences. And the consequences at this time are only being sent back home. The man put earlier that they could have actually faced 6 months in jail and a $2000 fine. It seems they got off light, but for some reason mfs do not mind looking a gift horse in the mouth.[/QUOTE]
Here is a PDF on immigration law written by a former Immigration Judge in the United States of America:
[URL]https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/pages/attachments/2016/03/03/fundamentals_of_immigration_law_-_feb_2016.pdf[/URL]
[I]You are entitled to your opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.[/I] ― [B]Daniel Patrick Moynihan[/B].
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2978899]In fact, Trump has never done anything illegal in his life.
(This whole thread will not last long. Everything will be erased soon or moved to "Stupid Shit in MDE". Let's enjoy crap till it lasts.).[/QUOTE]Trump was only convicted because the Biden administration weaponized the justice department and made up ficticious charges and ran a witch hunt, telling the jury to convict.
As far as I am concerned trump didn't do anything wrong and it was in fact Biden who was using the court system against a political opponent in hopes to win reelection but it backfired because the people were tilted of his failed policies and all the illegals being let into the country comminiting crimes and getting free hand outs.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2978921]There are plenty of Americans living in Colombia illegally. Mostly in the Medellin area. They are living off the low cost of living. Many of which never had a job paying more than minimum wage..
IF they were deported and treated like prisoners, it will be all over the news media in the USA as the "unjust" treatment of Americans.[/QUOTE]No it wouldn't. Nobody would care because only America and the left leaning western European 'democracies" have lost their friggin' minds. And BTW the ILLEGALS sent back to Colombia broke American immigration law for starters and commited felonies while in the USA so they were properly sent back to their HOME country. They got off lucky because if any American or any foreigner were arrested for violating the immigration laws of Colombia, they would spend a lot of time rotting in a Colombian prison and their arrest would not even be noticed in the either countries media.
Meanwhile I hear there is a deal in the works between the US and El Salvador where El Salvador will take and house (imprison) Venezuelan (nationals) illegal alien criminals if the dictator in Venezuela won't take back his own citizens. Good! Removing the 14,000,000 illegal aliens who came into the USA illegally during the Biden years and closing the border is one of the main reasons Trump won the election and flipped the Senate Republican. The American people are tired of this BS!
P.S. The stay in Mexico policy is back on too and Trump is more popular than any time in his political career. Now why don't we get back to posting about girls?
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2978925]Where did I write " foreigners doing illegal stuff " ?? I wrote about Americans overstaying their stay and taking advantage of the system.
You sure you are not smoking or snorting something ?[/QUOTE]Okay. Now everyone sees that you are trolling. Americans overstaying their visas is literally foreigners doing illegal stuff. Americans are actually foreigners and it is illegal to overstay. You have done it twice now. Next you will be saying where did I write human beings exercising? I wrote about people working out.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2978877]It is worth mentioning that the hobby practiced by me and (I assume) all members of this ISG forum is against the Law in the USA. Therefore, the US Army veteran who started this discussion is doing illegal things. Technically speaking, a "criminal"? Subject to a similar treatment?[/QUOTE]So you are saying that if the speed limit is 55 in the USA, but I go to Germany on the Autobahn where there is no speed limit and drive 75, then I am breaking the law? So you are saying that where I am from in Georgia that gambling is illegal, so if I go to Las Vegas and start gambling then I am breaking the law? So you are saying that fishing in a river without a license in the USA is against the law. So if I go to Brazil and fish in the Amazon River where there is no license needed then I am breaking the law?
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2978921]There are plenty of Americans living in Colombia illegally. Mostly in the Medellin area. They are living off the low cost of living. Many of which never had a job paying more than minimum wage..
IF they were deported and treated like prisoners, it will be all over the news media in the USA as the "unjust" treatment of Americans.[/QUOTE]I doubt it. I think most Estado Unidenses would agree that they should be deported.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2978921]There are plenty of Americans living in Colombia illegally. Mostly in the Medellin area. They are living off the low cost of living. Many of which never had a job paying more than minimum wage.. IF they were deported and treated like prisoners, it will be all over the news media in the USA as the "unjust" treatment of Americans.[/QUOTE]How do you know whether an American is there legally or not? Hint: you don't. So maybe just shut the fuck up.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2978827]Because Trump was tried in the same court room. Honestly, the media coverage of this was so bad that I cannot blame your outrage. You have to read alternative sources to get to the truth.
[URL]https://freemansperspective.com/why-ross-ulbricht-must-be-pardoned/[/URL]
First of all, it was politically driven, and openly. (See here and here.) That's not a good thing, especially because it poisoned the jury pool.
Next, the FBI flatly lied about how they found Silk Road's server. See here. What they really did was almost certainly parallel construction, which is simply a way to lie to the court.
A mere two months before Ulbricht's arrest, the lead DHS investigator swore under oath that Mark Karpeles of Mt. Gox (rather than Ross) was the person running the Silk Road site. The jury, however, wasn't allowed to know this.
Around the same time, two federal agents investigating the case pled guilty to corruption related to it. But again the jury wasn't allowed to know.
The government spied on Ulbricht's Internet traffic (along with others who used the same router) without showing probable cause and without a warrant, which again became a non-issue.
Murder-for-hire charges were manufactured by federal agents then massively publicized, which poisoned public opinion, and along with it (again) the jury pool. These flamboyant charges, however, were never tried, never proved, and were quietly dropped as the case proceeded.
The defense very early admitted that Ross had created the Silk Road service, but maintained that he had handed it off to others when it got too big for him to operate himself. (Ross was a physicist, not a programmer.)
That same afternoon, I was blown away by the judge announcing that she had altered the trial transcript over the weekend. This is something that simply cannot be done in an American court, and yet, at the highly prestigious US District Court at 500 Pearl Street in lower Manhattan, I listened to a judge announce that she had done precisely that. The judge sat in her high perch and said this (which is fairly close to verbatim):
Last Thursday when agent Der-Yeghiayan was testifying under cross examination, I thought the prosecutors could have objected more. And so, over the weekend, I edited the trial transcript and removed all the testimony that could have been objected to.
The prosecution's forensic evidence, provided by an FBI agent, was far below any professional level. The tools used were bad choices, and when the metadata (the times and dates you see when you open File Manager) are exactly the same for every file, it's inescapably clear that they've been altered.
The most pathetic moment came when the prosecutors forced one of Ross's old friends to testify that Ross asked his advice when building the Silk Road site. He was testifying only because he'd be thrown in jail if he didn't, making the emotions surrounding the moment a horrifying mix of pity (the man looked like he had been tortured, minus the bruises) and disgust with a man betraying his friend to a horrible fate.
Now I'll get back to the question I asked at the beginning of this article: If you think what Ross did was a punishable offense, what sort of penalty should have been applied?
Whatever your answer, I suspect it doesn't match what the judge handed down: Ross was given as a first time, nonviolent offender who is loved by everyone who knows him two life sentences plus 40 years.
Again you'll make up your own mind, but to me that's not justice, it's a head on a pike being paraded around the castle.
End of link.
So, yeah, this was the same as the Trump case in the same locale. It is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt not guilty if you suspect someone committed a crime. And like with Trump, liars were allowed to testify and people who were telling the truth and would have cast doubt on the guilt of the accused were excluded.
I think what really got me is the federal agents corruption. They pocketed about a $1 million apiece in Bitcoin and were caught. At that point, the entire motivation for LE IMO becomes suspect. Was getting the right guy their motivation or was it lining their pockets? To me, that is huge reasonable doubt, and I am not sure they got the right guy.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/07/29/trump-agenda47-crime-policy-proposal/74517501007/[/URL]
I saw a picture of this scumbag being released from his cage that he should of died in, with a huge shit eating grin.
Like he WON.
I really hope someone kills him before the week is over!
I'm no fan of dirty cops and courts, but this scumbag isn't innocent.
Why not just a new trial?