Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2837215]The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?[/QUOTE]Yes it does sound like a mediocre session doesn't it! LOL. I think technically you're right, but it was a sigh of relief after rio for me. Visually just much more attractive than most of the experiences I had in rio, which I'll write about later, but haven't gotten around to it just yet. And physically, she fit me really well. If you know what I mean. She had this giant tattoo on her back, which I loved looking at in doggie style.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837361]For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.[/QUOTE]There is a never-ending debate on this web site and on the RJ site about which town has better mongering. It is a given that one can find good looking girls in both towns, so the real question is where is the hunting best? The problem, however, in this highly subjective debate is that everybody has a right to their opinion no matter how cracked in the head their opinion might be. LOL. .

Oh well. You will survive your tip to RJ. But next time check out Sao Paulo and rely on BM's with similar tastes and spending constraints as your own. I think you will find that SP clinicas are nicer and have better looking girls than RJ Prive's. And nothing in RJ is in the same league as SP's top 3 Boates. But the obvious downside is that SP girls and bordellos are generally more expensive than the ones in RJ and SP does not have a beach.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2837360]As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.[/QUOTE]What type of girls do you like? I prefer the slim / spinner types.

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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837361]For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.[/QUOTE]It's over, NO it's just beginning. Some offers are actually a better value than you might think.

Only settle for quality vs. Anything else.

There are a few guys here (some I know like Kazeu) that actually know what an 8 or 10 is and what is not. I know a lot of you just want a quick fuck. Fine, Not my interest. I think / hope Sao Paulo / Rio is for more discerning travelers.

I just read GiuseppeBonera post. That he rated HKTJ as comparable to Scandallo in some areas. LOL. I thought so! Captain Solo will like hearing that. Before ISG came on my radar, I lived there.

Last couple days I have been messaging online high end escort / models web sites in Brazil, I get quotes as high as brl $3000 and as low as brl 500. They are 9's and 10's (by what they look like online) I think there's a trend here.

I'm screening out anything and everyone that does not offer an 8-10 AND appear to want to "please" the guys they meet. In person at clubs etc and walk away if they are online catfish. Thank you Kazu, GiuseppeBonera, HiddenEye, Elvis, Nounce, DramaFree11, Captain Solo, Steve 9696, Miami Boy1, The Cane, xyztravel, Chicago85 and more. Your tastes are no doubt all different but you have given your insights and it is very much appreciated.

Some things become a blurr. I had to ask my driver in Medellin if I had visited lunalunera he said yes but you turned around and walked out. YEP that's what we do.

So just got my first crazy escort story.

I setup an appointment with a girl name "Hanna". When she came she was not the girl in the picture (I would have still fucked her) BUT she demanded payment first I refused and we argued a bit with google translator. I offered to pay for her Uber and have her leave. ***** went crazy and tried to take my laptop threatening to drop it if I didn't pay. I tried to get it back. She ran for the door, dropping my laptop on the way. I managed to get her out the room but she went ape shit and took the fire extinguisher and continued to bang on the door breaking the smart lock and door in the process. The hotel staff was unaware and she left before they realized what had happened. This costed me 1500 reis for the damages. When the fuck would have just been 300 reis LOL. Sad. LOL.

I am just glad she didn't have a knife or gun or something. 100% crazy *****. Be warned guys.

Might be the last time I call an escort to my place. I will just stuck to the clubs and massage spas from now on.

This is the first time in 10 years a girl have actually caused me major problems.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2837360]As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200)....[/QUOTE]I think 330 is for 60 minutes while 200 is the new rate for 30 minutes without discount.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;2837343].... But no matter how bad looking or fugly, she has a minimum rate of 500. ....[/QUOTE]It can go lower for an above average looking girl. We are conditioned by the price mentioned but that is not the minimum.

Just got one of the worse experience with a girl from photoacompanhantes.

Her page isn't up anymore but this is her fake skokka [URL]https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/osasco/micheli-gatinha-dos-seus-sonhos-br1a3vhmj/[/URL].

The girl that arrived was not the same girl but she asked for payment first. I refused and offered to pay for her Uber to leave.

She wanted the full amount even though I didn't even touch her.

When I asked her to leave she tried to break my laptop. Once I got her out of my room she broke the smart lock in my hotel door forcing me to pay 1500 Reis to replace it.

Horrible girl and horrible person. I learned my lesson.

PLEASE AVOID.

Some notes for newbs. I guess I am one too LOL. I just got careless and too horny and wasn't thinking straight.

* Don't give the her your room number. Always say that you will meet her in the lobby. I have noticed that if you give the girl your room number she will just show up at the door and it will make it harder to get her to leave even she is cat fishing.

* ALWAYS search the number on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] first to see if you get any hits first. I got lazy here.

* Don't be girls to your apartment. It is a lot safer at hotels where there are more procedures in place for these kind of things.

* Just find a girl in a club or massage. Really. Having a girl in your apartment is fun, but you are also taking a big risk since some of them might be crazy as fuck.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2836425]... I booked a model for a sexy shoot, didn't know she was actually an escort. ...

I made the definitive question "voce faz programa?" (are you a working girl? And she said yes, I do. (sim eu faco programa) and of course I made the immediate proposal..,[/QUOTE]Great report but I think you already secretly hoped this would happen.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2837341]Thermae.

This place is probably my second favorite venue in the world mostly because of the objectiveness of the place and also low cost for high quality looks of the girls....But overall I think thermae tops my list.
.[/QUOTE]I am not disagreeing with you. I am just surprised that you rank it the second above many other places in Brazil and I like it, LOL. I think few would dare to rebuke you since you are Brazilian, hehe. Baccara at Cowboy has pretty large quantity of girls, and is easier to find better looking girls but cost quite a bit more.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2837449]

Last couple days I have been messaging online high end escort / models web sites in Brazil, I get quotes as high as brl $3000 and as low as brl 500. They are 9's and 10's (by what they look like online) I think there's a trend here.

[/QUOTE]I doubt a true 9 or 10 would quote you 500 reals, but if she does, this is a no brainer then. I would not rely on the photos you see online, especially on escort websites (in any country), because they are heavily edited, and also, bait and switch is common. Heck, some guys meet girls that they saw online with faces blurred, and wonder why a crocodile showed up. Your best bet is Scandallo, or any high end club or high end terma. SA sucks in Brazil. I would skip escort websites entirely, unless you like to gamble or waste your time.

I heard MeuPatrocinio is a popular alternative to Seeking in Brazil, supposed to be the largest sugar dating app in Brazil, but I haven't tried it, so can't vouch for it. Give it a try and report back

Well, hope is a fantastic thing!

In the case of this brunette, she didn't show many pink flags. Some other times the escort-o-meter shines!!

LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2837462]Great report but I think you already secretly hoped this would happen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2837475]I doubt a true 9 or 10 would quote you 500 reals, but if she does, this is a no brainer then. I would not rely on the photos you see online, especially on escort websites (in any country), because they are heavily edited, and also, bait and switch is common. Heck, some guys meet girls that they saw online with faces blurred, and wonder why a crocodile showed up. Your best bet is Scandallo, or any high end club or high end terma. SA sucks in Brazil. I would skip escort websites entirely, unless you like to gamble [/QUOTE]For the top SP escort websites, clubmodel, mclass, SPLove and private55, it's most often the same girl since the girl needs to pay to be on these sites and the sites do some certifying. Of course heavy photoshopping is common and old photos can happen. You should also cross check in gpguia for reviews and prioritize those with positive reviews.

I've been going to SP for more than 2 years now and I've seen girls start off in the clinicas (getting 100 r) or on PA charging 200 r to advertising 700-800 r on the high end sites. Competition is high in SP and new girls have to start off low before they get a local following and confidence to charge higher prices.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2837479]Well, hope is a fantastic thing!

In the case of this brunette, she didn't show many pink flags. Some other times the escort-o-meter shines!!

LOL.[/QUOTE]I found a huge group based on what you said. LOL.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837413]but it was a sigh of relief after rio for me. Visually just much more attractive than most of the experiences I had in rio, which I'll write about later, but haven't gotten around to it just yet. [/QUOTE]Sounds like you are in São Paulo camp! I prefer the diversity of girls in SP also. That's why guys should go to both Rio and sp and see what they like. The city experience and girl experience are very different in each city. And every guy has their own preference.