American Politics

[B]Reality is actually quite different![/B]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2979006]They are obviously picking and choosing their targets. He'll, I think many of the Trump "sweeps" are of immigrants already in holding pens waiting for a ruling on their visa. LOL.

It would be so easy to round up thousands of undocumented workers in a nanosecond if they targeted meat packing plants, Gulf of America vacation destinations, garment factories, Trump Golf Resorts, Trump Hotels, Trump Tower Office Building janitorial departments, every loading dock receiving Amazon order shipment and deliveries and so on.

[b]Why haven't they done it?[/b][/QUOTE][B]Is this a rhetorical question[/B]? Even if it is I am going to answer it anyway.

Because Democrats own share in those businesses. Because Democrats have constitutes that own those business. Because I think people of the United States of America are on average the most obese population on the planet. That means they like to eat.

[B]The Defense Rests![/B]

[QUOTE=Spidy;2978965]Note, you often bring up these moot points, as if their rich/expensive lawyers didn't get the opportunity, to defend/argue such evidentiary findings and "reasonable doubts".[/QUOTE]If you think there is a 99% chance someone is guilty, as a juror, you are supposed to find him not guilty.

So as a prosecutor, when you are at that level, you offer up a plea bargain with the understanding if you do not win the sentence is going to be much worse if you lose in court. That is how it is supposed to work.

MDS said he did not like a crap judge and court. OTOH, and just like with the Trump case, you thought the legal system worked perfectly.

In this case, there was a media onslaught that Ross ordered a hit. The witness most likely to help Ross was not allowed to testify. The dirty cops were not exposed for what they did. The judge ordered the record altered. The sentence was way beyond the guidelines Federal judges are supposed to follow.

If MDS hates drug dealers more than a crooked justice system, that is his right. At least he acknowledged the injustice, but you did not.

What I will never get is the arrogant monger like yourself pretending he is a law abiding citizen cheering on dirty cops, a bad prosecutor, and a biased and overly punitive judge.

Pardons are supposed to be for when the justice system went off its rails, and I think that certainly happened here. They are not for saying the convicted are innocent. Trump was right to pardon Ross.

Ross got a sentence reserved for serial killers.

While you think you are invulnerable, I took a quiz on human trafficking and got a 100% grade, The reason I got that grade is I knew the government's agenda: any sexual act can be construed as trafficking. Can it be trafficking if the woman gives consent? Oh sure it can. Can a woman be trafficked if just in one location? Of course. Can a woman be trafficked and not know she is being trafficked? You betcha.

That is something you might want to think about next time you cheer on injustice.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2979046]I avoid to buy Chinese products[/QUOTE]I buy the products that work for me. Just bought a Haier 65" OLED Smart TV. I like it so much I am going to buy the 75" next.

[QUOTE]The majority of golf clubs are produced in countries like China. Manufacturers such as PING, TaylorMade, and Callaway, for example, have facilities in China where they produce a significant portion of their clubs. Additionally, some clubs are still made in the United States, but the industry has seen a shift towards offshoring due to lower labor costs and manufacturing expenses in countries like China.[/QUOTE]Since you don't buy Chinese or American you must not play golf. But if you want to pay some real money for your clubs then you can buy these:

[QUOTE]Japanese golf clubs are similar to German cars. They have the claim of highest quality and they can call high prices which are nevertheless gladly paid. Maybe not from every golfer in the world, because golf is still not a cheap hobby and many people like to save on their equipment. But especially connoisseurs and enthusiastic players are willing to pay a little more money for Japanese golf clubs.[/QUOTE]Trust me, whatever you don't buy I am probably buying. I downloaded [U]DeepSeek[/U] and I use [U]TikTok[/U]. [B]NO FEAR![/B].

[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]

Faster than a speeding Colombian President! Lolol.

Trump sure got his snivling weak ass spanked and Super Flipped after that typically chaotic, numbskull Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub scheme he tried to pull was met by Dem resistance and a stern talking to about the importance of this government of, by and for the American people despite Repubs' many decades of trashing it.

Damn! Got his ass flipped around faster than the President of Colombia turned Trump's USA Military aircraft around before demonstrating to Trump how a real World Leader treats human beings with decency.

But I wouldn't expect the lesson to stick for very long. Repubs love to shut down things the American people don't want to be shut down. Same as Trump shutting down businesses and schools during Trump's Pandemic Part 1, Repubs Defunding the Police and so on.

[B]White House rescinds federal funds freeze memo.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/29/white-house-rescinds-federal-funds-freeze-memo.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The White House formally rescinded a controversial memo that had ordered a freeze on federal grants and loans.

The freeze, which had been set to take effect late Tuesday afternoon, was paused Tuesday by a federal judge to give her time to consider arguments challenging its legality.

The memo ordering the freeze had been issued by the Office of Management and Budget.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2978864]Not only is it legal for undocumented immigrants claiming to seek asylum to be here, it is not automatically a crime to be an undocumented immigrant anyway[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting us know that only 55% of illegals who entered the country illegally are criminals. That is so brilliant of you to do this PSA letting criminals know they will have legal representation at taxpayer expense if charged with a crime.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2978864]I sincerely wish and pray that every American who passes by a farm and suspects there are undocumented migrants working on that farm to please for the love of God report them to the authorities so Trump can round them up[/QUOTE][URL]https://budget.house.gov/press-release/dont-california-my-america-the-cost-of-california-policymaking[/URL]#text=Benefits%20 and%20 services%20 provided%20 to, per%20 capita%20 cost%20 of%20%247%2 C074.

Benefits and services provided to illegal aliens in California in 2022 amounted to $22,821,903,942.

Yes, thank you, illegals for only costing us $23 billion.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2978864]During those years Biden brilliantly exploited increased immigration to stimulate the economy / recovery[/QUOTE]An yes, the Newsome / Biden plan. So the plan of spending all that money on illegals and so little on water was brilliant?

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2977921]That you do not know why tells me you do not own an EV, and you have not looked into the issue, and I do not feel like educating someone like yourself who refuses to learn. Your $1. 2 trillion in tax credits tells me people are only buying EVs because they are being bribed by government. [/QUOTE]

[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Contrary to MAGA indoctrination, talking bullshit and spreading dis/misinformation to someone, is not education. It's just BULLSHIT and lies!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2977921]So you have stumbled onto half of the story. It is not Chinese EVs but regular cars. Cars are the second biggest asset most people own, and if you let Chinese cars in without tariffs, you will see lower inflation and consequently lower interest rates. That is a huge boon to the economy. The downside is if you let Chinese cars in you could blow up the American auto industry and risk that all the people working at GM and Ford may no longer have jobs. And if they go under, do we really want to be so dependent on China for auto transportation? [/QUOTE]

[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Thank you for making my argument, w/r to keeping President Biden's successful IRA EV tax credit program with 1.2 trillion in tax credit incentives, that helped and benefited American consumers and legacy auto manufacturers build and drive more affordable EVs to compete with the inevitable arrival of Chinese EVs and battery technology.

Why the hell do you think, President Joe Biden's bipartisan IRA & Chips bills (that your America's Hitler now want's to scuttle), has been one America's greatest successes, in the past decade?

I know you gullible MAGA numbskulls have not been listening much, to the GREAT successes in the Biden Administration era, over the past four (4) years, but President Biden's IRA, had made America competitive again. The Biden IRA, has been so successful, even now [u]Europe is looking to create an IRA program, of their own to compete with China.[/u]

But America's Hitler and the clown show that is the Repub/MAGA admin, will ONLY doom and squander the gains made in EV & battery tech, needed to catch up with Chinese EVs, garnered by the Biden's IRA, with nonsensical "blanket" tariffs, that only serve to paint a pretty bleak picture, that America is too scared and fearful, to compete with Chinese EVs.

Just take a look at the recent news with DeepSeek's open source AI (if true), and how America's efforts to block China from buying advanced AI Chips, meant to keep their China's advancements in AI Chips & tech, at bay and behind that of the U.S. (or Europe).

But since [i][b]"necessity is the mother of invention"[/b][/i] (something the U.S., under the new regime has forgotten), has clearly driven China to get remarkably creative, innovative and in the end, build a more efficient AI, with a lot less chips/energy and wayyyyyyyy less capital. China has done it with EVs, battery tech and now AI tech. [i][b]Meanwhile, the U.S. is doing "drill baby drill"???[/b][/i]

It would behoove America, take a page outta that very same Chinese innovation-playbook and compete, innovate and produce with less, like America has always done with the help of gov't assisted programs like President Joe Biden's IRA. But I doubt that'll happen under America's Hitler!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2978710]Hacky and crappy quotes, from TV fictional characters a side, I didn't peg you for one to bury your head in the sand on clean energy solutions like the hugely successful, Energy Efficient Home Improvement tax credits for American Homeowners?

But your wrong headed position, related to EV tax credits, is very much in line with many misconceptions sounding EVs, as if legacy ICE manufacturers and fossil fuel industry have never had gov't subsides and taxes of their own, is as laughable as your Billy Bob, crappy fossil fuel industry TV-show propaganda, pining about bygone days of oil.

Meanwhile, as China smiles and laughs at the idiot in the WH, who continually condemns America to a "drill baby drill" ONLY energy policy, while they surge ahead with terawatt installations of cheaper renewables every month, that replace coal, oil, gas and even outpace nuclear.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwsAf0do-yo[/URL][/QUOTE]You keep tripping on facts. You need 800 wind turbines to produce the same amount of electricity as an average nuclear plant. Wind turbines only work when the wind is blowing and require higher maintenance costs and 360 times as much land. You need 8. 5 million solar panels to provide that much energy, and that only works well if the sun is brightly shining.

I thought with you douches that getting carbon down was the big deal. If that is the case, you would want electricity from natural gas, that is assuming you know what the hell you want, and drill baby drill would be part of the solution.

And while your cheerleading China, may I point out to you the huge carbon footprints of your idiotic Democrat douche pols namely blowing up Nordstream and allowing California to burn.

Then you had the effect of the Ukraine War pushing Germany back to coal for electricity: [URL]https://www.channel4.com/news/why-is-germany-turning-back-to-coal-for-energy[/URL].

And you are wrong about China and gas, they just built a huge pipeline from Siberia to Shanghai, and they are looking to do more. The Democratic douche tag line should be make China green while making Europe black.

When Biden said, that man cannot stay in power. If he meant Germany's leader versus Putin, he would have been correct. While Russian GDP has been growing in the 3 to 4% range, Germany's has been growing around 0. 5%. Maybe Loony Tooms can say how great the Biden economic plan was. Three years later, you have Democratic douche Xpartan still claiming the Russian economy is weak.

I still do not get why you Democratic douches are not thankful that Putin ended the pandemic.

As for the masturbation fantasy about EVs, there is not enough lithium on the planet to make EV adoption widespread, the grid even in the USA could not take it if everyone had electric, and the power retained by batteries fades over time and in the cold. An EV is fine for running around town but spending hours charging your car for long hauls versus a 5 minute gas fill up is not something I would want to do.

So I was thinking that BYD is toast until getting that they have cars that use both gas and electricity to run. The gasoline is used to generate electricity and I found that interesting. So these hybrid EVs that can use gasoline can be rolled out now in mass. But yeah, that means drill baby drill is still in play.

Thing is BYD's cars are too expensive. $30,000 in Mexico and $25,000 in Chile for a car that goes for $17,000 in China? You are not making a dent in inflation with those prices.

OTOH, Chery is selling cars in Chile that are half the price of the cheapest ones in the USA. That is a game changer.

The problem with you dumb Democratic douches is you do not think. I ask Loony Tooms for his opinion on tariffs on Chinese cars, and he says nothing. He cheers immigrant contributions while not recognizing that spending money on them over abundant water was a disaster.

And you are cheerleading green policies from China while your leaders blew up Nordstream. How the hell you people can talk green after that is beyond me. And spare me the story about the drunk Ukrainians blowing up that pipeline. Yeah, I am sure you believe that.

Real economic decisions are not easy, and I think they short circuit the brains of partisan hacks like you and Tooms.

I talked to a friend of mine the other night. He is a big car guy but he also owns some rental properties. When I told him about the cheap Chinese cars and letting them in, he defended the car companies. I then told him if inflation comes down and interest rates go down, the townhomes he was looking to sell would probably sell for 20% more as with lower interest rates, he would have many more potential buyers with lower rates. Now he is having to think. It is not black-white.

So yeah, Spidy, your brain probably requires less electricity than mine. You just do a MSNBC mind meld or go to the default whatever Trump wants, I want the opposite setting. The real world is not black and white or red and blue. And if you actually read what I wrote, I criticize you all more for that than anything.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2979185] Contrary to MAGA indoctrination, talking bullshit and spreading dis/misinformation to someone, is not education. It's just BULLSHIT and lies![/QUOTE]I know you gullible MAGA numbskulls have not been listening much, to the GREAT successes in the Biden Administration era, over the past four (4) years, but President Biden's IRA, had made America competitive again. Why the hell do you think, President Joe Biden's bipartisan IRA & Chips bills (that your America's Hitler now want's to scuttle), has been one America's greatest successes.

Just take a look at the recent news with DeepSeek's open source AI (if true), and how America's efforts to block China from buying advanced AI Chips, meant to keep their China's advancements in AI Chips & tech, at bay and behind that of the USA (or Europe).

But since necessity, is the mother of invention (something the USA, under the new regime has forgotten), has clearly driven China to get remarkably creative, innovative and in the end, build a more efficient AI, with a lot less chips / energy and wayyyyyyyy less capital.

So to recap, Biden spends a shit ton of money on something, tries to prevent China from doing it, and China does that same something for much cheaper and somehow you think that makes you dumb douches smart and having produced an economic success. And MAGA folks are the ones who are "gullible numbskulls".

You cannot make this shit up.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2979046]If you think Chinese cars and products are quality, then I can't do anything for you. They only sell just because they are cheap, but not for quality. [/QUOTE]

Just love that old smug hubris!

That's the same hubris, that has Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, VW, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Ford, GM and Stellantis, closing down factories, losing money and losing upwards of 18% market share in the world's biggest car markets, to Chinese EVs and hybrids with so called "crappy", "cheap" products and tech.

So, if China can somehow continue to take market share away from legacy auto, with today's "crappy", "cheap" EVs and hybrids...image what will happen to legacy auto, when China really decides to "ramp-up the quality and tech" and produce "top-level premium spec" EVs?

FWIW, if you haven't figured it out already, those Chinese "top-level premium spec" EVs are already here and they're certainly not at any rate, cheap-cheap! [i][b](....kkkk!)[/b][/i]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2979088]Your post is full of inaccuracies and unsubstantiated claims. Like your 14 million illegals entering the USA under Biden. According to the House Budget Committee the number is more like 1. 7 million. The rest of your post is just pure ranting and garbage. But, thank you for your contribution.

.[/QUOTE]Enough of the political BS plzzzzz. Geezus, what a bore.

Move it to the WGAF forum. 🙄

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2978795]Even one of Trump's favorite Repub "Tops" could not deny it:

[B]Donald Trump Just 'Technically' Violated the Law; Lindsey Graham.[/B]

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-lindsey-graham-inspectors-general-firing-2020984[/URL]

My my my. It is almost as if Trump is planning an orgy of good old fashioned Classic Repub Waste, Fraud and Abuse in his 2nd term to exceed that in his 1st term, which is really, really, really saying a lot!

BTW, what has been happening lately to the price of gas, eggs, groceries, damn I'm glad Trump invented that word, rent, mortgage loan rates, prescription drugs, shipped items in Walmart, Target, etc, etc, etc?[/QUOTE]Ill bet you 50 k cash, that those fraudulent kangaroo court charges are crushed on appeal!!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/29/nyregion/trump-criminal-conviction-appeal.html[/URL]

As Establishment Warms to Trump, Elite Law Firm Takes On His Appeal.

The involvement of Sullivan & Cromwell in the appeal of President Trump's criminal conviction underscored how New York's legal power players have moved toward Mr. Trump.

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President Trump is the first felon to occupy the Oval Office. He is trying to clear his name. Credit. Dave Sanders for The New York Times.

Jonah E. Bromwich.

By Jonah E. Bromwich.

Jan. 29,2025.

Updated 5:56 pm ET.

A team from one of Manhattan's most prominent law firms will handle the appeal of President Trump's criminal conviction, according to court papers filed on Wednesday that formally announced the appeal.

The team, headed by Robert Giuffra Jr. , a co-chair of Sullivan & Cromwell and one of New York's better-known appellate lawyers, adds muscle to Mr. Trump's long-anticipated attempt to overturn his conviction. He was found guilty last year on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in a case brought by the Manhattan district attorney's office.

The firm's involvement underscores how New York's legal power players have warmed to the president. Mr. Trump was spurned by lawyers from major firms when he left office four years ago, but his second victory has brought about a sea change. Many large corporations and business leaders have lined up to support the second Trump administration.

"President Donald J. Trump's appeal is important for the rule of law, New York's reputation as a global business, financial and legal center, as well as for the presidency and all public officials," Mr. Giuffra said in a statement. "The misuse of the criminal law by the Manhattan the. A. To target President Trump sets a dangerous precedent. ".

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A spokeswoman for the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, declined to comment.

In a seven-week trial last spring, the district attorney's office persuaded a jury that the president had approved the falsification of records to disguise a scheme to hide three potentially damaging stories from the public during his first White House run in 2016.

To conceal the last of those stories, prosecutors argued, Mr. Trump dispatched his fixer at the time, Michael the. Cohen, to pay hush money to Stormy Daniels, a porn star who told the jury her story of sex with Mr. Trump.

Mr. Cohen was then reimbursed in 2017, leaving a paper trail of 34 documents that prosecutors said were false business records.

Mr. Trump's defense lawyers, Todd Blanche and Emil Bove, fought the conviction, but the president has named both men to high positions in the USA Justice Department. Now, Mr. Giuffra will face off against the district attorney's head of appeals, Steven Wu, as the case is heard by a midlevel appeals court in Manhattan.

The case presents various issues for the court. Falsifying business records is a felony only if the records were faked to conceal a second crime. In Mr. Trump's case, prosecutors argued that second crime was a violation of state election law that prohibits a conspiracy to promote a candidacy "by unlawful means. ".

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That complex legal theory was approved by the trial judge, Juan M. Merchan, and a federal judge who evaluated the case, Alvin K. Hellerstein, took no issue with it. But it may be vulnerable to the scrutiny of appellate judges.

Trump Administration: Live Updates.

Updated.

Jan. 29,2025, 9:12 pm ET2 hours ago.

A Silicon Valley deal maker is expected to join the Trump administration.

Far from Colombia, Trump's measures caused chaos at airports.

Trump says the USA Will hold migrants at Guantánamo Bay in Cuba.

Mr. Trump's lawyers have also argued that the Supreme Court's decision on presidential immunity last summer — a decision that fatally delayed a federal criminal case in which Mr. Trump was accused of working to overturn the 2020 election — invalidates some of the trial evidence.

Another vulnerability may spring from Ms. Daniels's testimony. After her first morning on the stand, Mr. Trump's lawyers moved for a mistrial, arguing that her graphic testimony about sex with their client had prejudiced the jury. Justice Merchan said that while he agreed that Ms. Daniels had said things "that would probably have been better left unsaid," a mistrial was not warranted.

This month, Justice Merchan sentenced Mr. Trump, but gave him what is known as an unconditional discharge. The sentence carries no penalty, but formalized the president's status as a felon. That status will stand until the appeal is decided.

Mr. Giuffra, and the other four Sullivan & Cromwell lawyers handling the appeal — Matthew Schwartz, James McDonald, Jeffrey Wall and Morgan Ratner — all clerked at the Supreme Court and are partners at the firm. Mr. Wall is the former acting USA Solicitor general and Ms. Ratner worked in the solicitor general's office, where she argued multiple Supreme Court cases.

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The group's decision to take on the appeal is the latest link between Sullivan & Cromwell and the president. Mr. Trump named Jay Clayton, a former partner who is currently of counsel at the firm, as his pick to lead the USA Attorney's office in Manhattan.

The posture of the firm echoes that taken by high-profile business leaders across the country. But it is not wholly without risk: Some clients might look askance at any affiliation with a polarizing president.

Mr. Giuffra, who donated to Mr. Trump's campaign and other Republican causes, was under consideration to represent Mr. Trump during his first term, but ultimately did not join his legal team.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2979185][i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Contrary to MAGA indoctrination, talking bullshit and spreading dis/misinformation to someone, is not education. It's just BULLSHIT and lies!



[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Thank you for making my argument, w/r to keeping President Biden's successful IRA EV tax credit program with 1.2 trillion in tax credit incentives, that helped and benefited American consumers and legacy auto manufacturers build and drive more affordable EVs to compete with the inevitable arrival of Chinese EVs and battery technology.

Why the hell do you think, President Joe Biden's bipartisan IRA & Chips bills (that your America's Hitler now want's to scuttle), has been one America's greatest successes, in the past decade?

I know you gullible MAGA numbskulls have not been listening much, to the GREAT successes in the Biden Administration era, over the past four (4) years, but President Biden's IRA, had made America competitive again. The Biden IRA, has been so successful, even now [u]Europe is looking to create an IRA program, of their own to compete with China.[/u]

But America's Hitler and the clown show that is the Repub/MAGA admin, will ONLY doom and squander the gains made in EV & battery tech, needed to catch up with Chinese EVs, garnered by the Biden's IRA, with nonsensical "blanket" tariffs, that only serve to paint a pretty bleak picture, that America is too scared and fearful, to compete with Chinese EVs.

Just take a look at the recent news with DeepSeek's open source AI (if true), and how America's efforts to block China from buying advanced AI Chips, meant to keep their China's advancements in AI Chips & tech, at bay and behind that of the U.S. (or Europe).

But since [i][b]"necessity is the mother of invention"[/b][/i] (something the U.S., under the new regime has forgotten), has clearly driven China to get remarkably creative, innovative and in the end, build a more efficient AI, with a lot less chips/energy and wayyyyyyyy less capital. China has done it with EVs, battery tech and now AI tech. [i][b]Meanwhile, the U.S. is doing "drill baby drill"???[/b][/i]

It would behoove America, take a page outta that very same Chinese innovation-playbook and compete, innovate and produce with less, like America has always done with the help of gov't assisted programs like President Joe Biden's IRA. But I doubt that'll happen under America's Hitler![/QUOTE]You sound so like the typical American HATING Democrat, I'm guessing you're probably not hetero, probably not Christian maybe not European heritage?

Hey are you also ET in this thread?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2979240]Ill bet you 50 k cash, that those fraudulent kangaroo court charges are crushed on appeal!!

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/29/nyregion/trump-criminal-conviction-appeal.html[/URL]

As Establishment Warms to Trump, Elite Law Firm Takes On His Appeal.

The involvement of Sullivan & Cromwell in the appeal of President Trump's criminal conviction underscored how New York's legal power players have moved toward Mr. Trump.

Listen to this article 4:57 min Learn more.

Share full article.

Donald Trump behind a barrier in a courthouse hall.

President Trump is the first felon to occupy the Oval Office. He is trying to clear his name. Credit. Dave Sanders for The New York Times.

Jonah E. Bromwich.

By Jonah E. Bromwich.

Jan. 29,2025.

Updated 5:56 pm ET.

A team from one of Manhattan's most prominent law firms will handle the appeal of President Trump's criminal conviction, according to court papers filed on Wednesday that formally announced the appeal.

The team, headed by Robert Giuffra Jr. , a co-chair of Sullivan & Cromwell and one of New York's better-known appellate lawyers, adds muscle to Mr. Trump's long-anticipated attempt to overturn his conviction. He was found guilty last year on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in a case brought by the Manhattan district attorney's office.

The firm's involvement underscores how New York's legal power players have warmed to the president. Mr. Trump was spurned by lawyers from major firms when he left office four years ago, but his second victory has brought about a sea change. Many large corporations and business leaders have lined up to support the second Trump administration.

"President Donald J. Trump's appeal is important for the rule of law, New York's reputation as a global business, financial and legal center, as well as for the presidency and all public officials," Mr. Giuffra said in a statement. "The misuse of the criminal law by the Manhattan the. A. To target President Trump sets a dangerous precedent. ".

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A spokeswoman for the Manhattan district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, declined to comment.

In a seven-week trial last spring, the district attorney's office persuaded a jury that the president had approved the falsification of records to disguise a scheme to hide three potentially damaging stories from the public during his first White House run in 2016.

To conceal the last of those stories, prosecutors argued, Mr. Trump dispatched his fixer at the time, Michael the. Cohen, to pay hush money to Stormy Daniels, a porn star who told the jury her story of sex with Mr. Trump.

Mr. Cohen was then reimbursed in 2017, leaving a paper trail of 34 documents that prosecutors said were false business records.

Mr. Trump's defense lawyers, Todd Blanche and Emil Bove, fought the conviction, but the president has named both men to high positions in the USA Justice Department. Now, Mr. Giuffra will face off against the district attorney's head of appeals, Steven Wu, as the case is heard by a midlevel appeals court in Manhattan.

The case presents various issues for the court. Falsifying business records is a felony only if the records were faked to conceal a second crime. In Mr. Trump's case, prosecutors argued that second crime was a violation of state election law that prohibits a conspiracy to promote a candidacy "by unlawful means. ".

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That complex legal theory was approved by the trial judge, Juan M. Merchan, and a federal judge who evaluated the case, Alvin K. Hellerstein, took no issue with it. But it may be vulnerable to the scrutiny of appellate judges.

Trump Administration: Live Updates.

Updated.

Jan. 29,2025, 9:12 pm ET2 hours ago.

A Silicon Valley deal maker is expected to join the Trump administration.

Far from Colombia, Trump's measures caused chaos at airports.

Trump says the USA Will hold migrants at Guantnamo Bay in Cuba.

Mr. Trump's lawyers have also argued that the Supreme Court's decision on presidential immunity last summer a decision that fatally delayed a federal criminal case in which Mr. Trump was accused of working to overturn the 2020 election invalidates some of the trial evidence.

Another vulnerability may spring from Ms. Daniels's testimony. After her first morning on the stand, Mr. Trump's lawyers moved for a mistrial, arguing that her graphic testimony about sex with their client had prejudiced the jury. Justice Merchan said that while he agreed that Ms. Daniels had said things "that would probably have been better left unsaid," a mistrial was not warranted.

This month, Justice Merchan sentenced Mr. Trump, but gave him what is known as an unconditional discharge. The sentence carries no penalty, but formalized the president's status as a felon. That status will stand until the appeal is decided.

Mr. Giuffra, and the other four Sullivan & Cromwell lawyers handling the appeal Matthew Schwartz, James McDonald, Jeffrey Wall and Morgan Ratner all clerked at the Supreme Court and are partners at the firm. Mr. Wall is the former acting USA Solicitor general and Ms. Ratner worked in the solicitor general's office, where she argued multiple Supreme Court cases.

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The group's decision to take on the appeal is the latest link between Sullivan & Cromwell and the president. Mr. Trump named Jay Clayton, a former partner who is currently of counsel at the firm, as his pick to lead the USA Attorney's office in Manhattan.

The posture of the firm echoes that taken by high-profile business leaders across the country. But it is not wholly without risk: Some clients might look askance at any affiliation with a polarizing president.

Mr. Giuffra, who donated to Mr. Trump's campaign and other Republican causes, was under consideration to represent Mr. Trump during his first term, but ultimately did not join his legal team.[/QUOTE]Even with 34 State Felony convictions at stake, Repub King Trump could simply order every possible judge, jury member and witness to be killed, essentially nullifying any possibility of his OJ Simpson-like "Dream Team's" challenge being dismissed. Then, ultimately the MAGA Repub 6 on the SCOTUS would rule in his or any other Repub's favor for having "won" a State criminal case that way.

So?

LOL. Got to love MAGA-think assuming Trump's unprecedented presidential Lawfare attacks on his political, personal and business opponents somehow miraculously stopped or would be lessened in his 2nd Trump's Pandemic term.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2979193]Just love that old smug hubris!

That's the same hubris, that has Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, VW, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Ford, GM and Stellantis, closing down factories, losing money and losing upwards of 18% market share in the world's biggest car markets, to Chinese EVs and hybrids with so called "crappy", "cheap" products and tech.

So, if China can somehow continue to take market share away from legacy auto, with today's "crappy", "cheap" EVs and hybrids...image what will happen to legacy auto, when China really decides to "ramp-up the quality and tech" and produce "top-level premium spec" EVs?

FWIW, if you haven't figured it out already, those Chinese "top-level premium spec" EVs are already here and they're certainly not at any rate, cheap-cheap! [i][b](....kkkk!)[/b][/i][/QUOTE]But China is not able to produce quality on my Western European standard. Their growing business is just because cheap and more and more people, in Europe and USA, with less and less money. And tok tok propaganda also help a lot Chinese business, even senile Trump is not able to understand. He lost versus China, when not following justice decision on his arrival and despite talking so much, but still war in Ukraine and big problems in Gaza, when he failed to play David Copperfield. Only looking like white rabbit.

Faster than a speeding Colombian President! Lolol.

Trump sure got his snivling weak ass spanked and Super Flipped after that typically chaotic, numbskull Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub scheme he tried to pull was met by Dem resistance and a stern talking to about the importance of this government of, by and for the American people despite Repubs' many decades of trashing it.

Damn! Got his ass flipped around faster than the President of Colombia turned Trump's USA Military aircraft around before demonstrating to Trump how a real World Leader treats human beings with decency.

But I wouldn't expect the lesson to stick for very long. Repubs love to shut down things the American people don't want to be shut down. Same as Trump shutting down businesses and schools during Trump's Pandemic Part 1, Repubs Defunding the Police and so on.

[be]White House rescinds federal funds freeze memo.

No Way not more lies from Bangkok Bob.

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/latin-america/2025/01/28/colombias-president-refutes-rumors-he-wrote-anti-trump-rant-while-he-was-drunk/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/26/colombias-petro-goes-on-unhinged-rant-at-trump-threatens-tariffs-if-you-know-anyone-stubborn-thats-me/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/01/26/colombias-petro-backs-down-sending-personal-plane-to-pick-up-migrants-after-trump-announced-sanctions/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/news/colombians-deported-from-us-after-trump-spat-arrive-in-bogota/[/URL]

[URL][URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/29/white-house-rescinds-federal-funds-freeze-memo.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL][/QUOTE][/URL]