Stupid Shit in Tijuana

Blackthought.

"Show me a beautiful woman, and I'll show you a guy who's tired of fucking her". Exactly. Even with lots of love, guys will get bored with the same beautiful women years in years out.

Girls' charms, beauty, bodies and feels are all different. They respond and express their sexual pleasures in different ways, some don't express anything at all.

I had some very beautiful Chinese girls but was unable to communicate with them, got bored fast. Few Pinays were as beautiful as Chinese, but they could communicate in English, making their companies much sweeter and sexier. A few years back I landed in manila in the afternoon. Within 12 hours I pulled 5 girls and popped 7 times. Communication made them felt like real humans, a lot sweeter and more sensuous. It's very nice to experience the varieties of spices in life.

I am planning to do a tour of Southeast Asia as soon as countries open up. Thailand will be open to foreign travelers this week with 1 day test and quarantine in a hotel. Reportedly the bars along lower Sukhumvit and Soi Cowboy are open with lots of girls waiting for farangs to come back. I need me a few soapy / nuru massages with hot Thai girls to wake my sensuality back up hehe.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2639890]I had some very beautiful Chinese girls but was unable to communicate with them, got bored fast. Few Pinays were as beautiful as Chinese, but they could communicate in English, making their companies much sweeter and sexier. A few years back I landed in manila in the afternoon. Within 12 hours I pulled 5 girls and popped 7 times. Communication made them felt like real humans, a lot sweeter and more sensuous.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. It's difficult to get GFE communicating through google translate jajaja. That's what I really enjoyed about HK club, that I never had to use google translate. In Colombia, it was google translate for everything. Communication is key for chemistry / connection.

Mongering in SEA isn't my thing. Manila is an expensive place to monger, take a bus up to Angeles city and the price is cut in half. They have their own "walking street".

[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2639650]Similar to the MDE poster Blackthought mentioned, numb nuts never addresses the actual issue. As shown in the screenshot I already posted, he bold face lied about his alleged 20-30 trips to Tijuana. Pure and simple. Insults are all he is capable of because behind the facade, there is no substance.[/QUOTE]Post a link to one of your 20-30 trips to Tijuana the phony aka Dramaqueef.

Well some of what I remember from previous posts of yours was you not paying her an allowance any longer for a reason that I don't remember. When I read that it made me wonder why she would stay with you. Like you said she has been providing for herself since 17 and she has family that relies on her help for them. She supposedly told them that she has an American boyfriend that provides the money for her and later introduces you to family so they think she wasn't lying. So you cut off her income since she is no longer working so if she can't help family like before but the two of you are still together I don't think they would understand. So you kind of forced her to see clients behind your back. If it was me I'd be upset with how you use cutting her off as a bargaining chip that she gets taken away if she doesn't do as you wish. Yet you say you love her and from all the things you have talked about with her you seem to only bring up her beauty and how good she is in bed. So I think your love is not true.

In all your posts and how things have gone I'm just waiting to see what happens after your trip to Paris. In the back of my mind I still wonder if she is in this just for the trip and she'll end it after that. Especially with the school excuse.

I also think you went to fast with this whole thing especially since you just got out of a marriage and you just wanted that void filled.

I have some other concerns but don't want to fill your head with more negativity. Especially since you aren't with her for Christmas. Best of luck.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2639814]Love Mudd. Just got done with an amazing evening in CDMX. In the last 36 hours I have had 4 amazing sessions. All of the girls are extremely hot, something you would know nothing about. 2 of the girls spent the night.

I am here, catch a flight. You have now been invited to MTY and CDMX, but you leave this out of reports. You have also used my real name in one of your reports. That would require having fun, spending money, and talking to girls.

It is easy to sit behind your computer complaining and making crap up. I and others are having the time of our lives, you should do the same.[/QUOTE]You need to lay off the sauce. Also, you posted your own real name you nitwit.

[QUOTE=BigMagick;2639792]Its a bummer your relationship isn't going smoothly KB. Its making me question my own sanity going on dates with bar girls. This arrangement doesn't seem very normal too me. If I understand correctly you are paying 1200 $ a month for her to be your live in GF. If she really loves you why the 1200 dollars? But I also understand she needs spending cash for basics. I recently got invited to meet the family of a bar girl. First time that's happened, its a big deal for latin women. On the surface the situation looks bad but all standard stuff in my opinion. She's in her 20's. Don't know about you KB but I was an idiot for most of my 20's. At that age you're older than the teenagers but your still clueless, naive, unsure of what you want etc. Add on top she's a woman and you got someone who barely has any rational long term thoughts in her head. Not saying she's dumb just young. Women like to keep their options open and for her that means her clients. In your gut you knew going into this it was going to be tough but I don't think all hope is lost. Just see what the relationship for what it really is. I stopped contacting my last bar girl because I felt I was falling too hard. Thats a recipe for disaster, at least for me personally because I stop thinking when I'm in love. This new BG I'm seeing I really like but I'm not letting myself fall in love, she's a great time, even better than the last one but I know even if there is genuine attraction / love from her she's still a BG I met at Hong Kong and they arent normal women. Not necessarily bad women but you are not dating some chick you met at the mall in California. Remember to think logically and rationally above all else and you should be fine. See the relationship for what it really is but also don't withhold your love from fear of getting played because that's no way to live but all this is just my two pesos KB.

Dating these girls has changed my view of mongering as well. I recently found out I have a reputation at HK now. Found out from my new girl that the girls talk about me. I guess being there so much word gets around because they can see I'm spending tons of money there. I mean its what they are good at, sniffing out money LOL.

But if we plan to date girls in mexico whether bar girls or civvies they will always see us as the rich gringo, at least most of them will. I say if you are enjoying her company then keep going because lifes short.[/QUOTE]I agree life is short and glad I didn't die this year when I totaled my truck. I pay her $600 per month, food, and rent. When I found the chats of her trying to setup dates, then it changed things slightly, but I told her I understood her predicament since she asked me if I could help her with family issues. I declined those requests and always think how she will help the family when I decline offering assistance. Now I know, she is put in between a rock and hard place since she doesn't "work". I always told her to let me know if the relationship isn't right for her at this time in her life as she is young and I don't want to feel like I'm taking the best years of her life.

Some Mexican guys were sending her mother flowers for her birthday and others were talking about paying for her to fly to different places for vacation. It confused me why she would pick me over the other guys, but it may be the connection we have even though it is sort of fucked up. She has friends that own restaurants, in Banda bands, and have businesses in Mexico, so it isn't a lack of qualified men in her life. They are also closer in age to her and speak her language. Those are the guys that worry me about the relationship since she has history with them.

I'll keep trying to ride this until the wheels fall off and not sure where it is going to take me, but it has been fun. The real test for me is when she graduates and if she can hold onto a "respectable" job as she says or start a business. I understand a lot of the other bros feelings regarding sex workers and I never expected to be in a relationships with one.

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2639984]Some Mexican guys were sending her mother flowers for her birthday and others were talking about paying for her to fly to different places for vacation. It confused me why she would pick me over the other guys, but it may be the connection we have even though it is sort of fucked up. She has friends that own restaurants, in Banda bands, and have businesses in Mexico, so it isn't a lack of qualified men in her life. They are also closer in age to her and speak her language. Those are the guys that worry me about the relationship since she has history with them..[/QUOTE]You don't speak Spanish. You know Jack shit about Mexico or Mexicans. Ever hear the expression: one born every minute. Ever think it might apply to you?

Go watch Born on the Fourth of July, the Mexican hooker scenes in particular. Mexico is the land of machism and you imagine made Mexicans treat a Tijuana hooker like the Virgin of Guadalupe. Estás pero si bien pendejo.

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2639984]I agree life is short and glad I didn't die this year when I totaled my truck. I pay her $600 per month, food, and rent. When I found the chats of her trying to setup dates, then it changed things slightly, but I told her I understood her predicament since she asked me if I could help her with family issues. I declined those requests and always think how she will help the family when I decline offering assistance. Now I know, she is put in between a rock and hard place since she doesn't "work". I always told her to let me know if the relationship isn't right for her at this time in her life as she is young and I don't want to feel like I'm taking the best years of her life.

Some Mexican guys were sending her mother flowers for her birthday and others were talking about paying for her to fly to different places for vacation. It confused me why she would pick me over the other guys, but it may be the connection we have even though it is sort of fucked up. She has friends that own restaurants, in Banda bands, and have businesses in Mexico, so it isn't a lack of qualified men in her life. They are also closer in age to her and speak her language. Those are the guys that worry me about the relationship since she has history with them..[/QUOTE]I do not think anyone cares where you met her. We are all guilty of the same thing. Unless you guys quit the game playing, end the jealousy and stop asking her about the past it will never work. When I was living in Ukraine and spending time in Russia, people always talked about moving forward in life and not focus on the past. We as Americans live in the past, especially American women. The past is the past, who cares. Let it go.

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2639984]I agree life is short and glad I didn't die this year when I totaled my truck. I pay her $600 per month, food, and rent. When I found the chats of her trying to setup dates, then it changed things slightly, but I told her I understood her predicament since she asked me if I could help her with family issues. I declined those requests and always think how she will help the family when I decline offering assistance. Now I know, she is put in between a rock and hard place since she doesn't "work". I always told her to let me know if the relationship isn't right for her at this time in her life as she is young and I don't want to feel like I'm taking the best years of her life.

Some Mexican guys were sending her mother flowers for her birthday and others were talking about paying for her to fly to different places for vacation. It confused me why she would pick me over the other guys, but it may be the connection we have even though it is sort of fucked up. She has friends that own restaurants, in Banda bands, and have businesses in Mexico, so it isn't a lack of qualified men in her life. They are also closer in age to her and speak her language. Those are the guys that worry me about the relationship since she has history with them..[/QUOTE]When I was hanging out at HK there were very few girls making $500 a night, on the weekend, maybe. During the week it can be tough for those girls, How would not believe that for a second. If she was truly making that kind of money why is she broke now?

[QUOTE=Sol12;2639950]In the back of my mind I still wonder if she is in this just for the trip and she'll end it after that. Especially with the school excuse.

I also think you went to fast with this whole thing especially since you just got out of a marriage and you just wanted that void filled.

I have some other concerns but don't want to fill your head with more negativity. Especially since you aren't with her for Christmas. Best of luck.[/QUOTE]We have another month in Tijuana after the trip and she is going to try private university route for transfer. If not, then I might be traveling once a month to her hometown. Not sure what other concerns you can think of, but would appreciate it since you might have been through similar situation. One time she wanted to see my WhatsApp of the regular I was seeing to make sure it wasn't one of her friends and she said "she is ugly" and promptly deleted the contact from my phone. She was visibly upset and not sure what to make of it. She wants me to visit her hometown so maybe in Feb.

Also with as much psychological shit Ive put her through, she should have walked numerous times. One time I was halfway out the door and she pulled me back and then the other time she was packing her shit and I told her not to leave. I told her Id cancel the trip numerous times all the way back until October. She said she didnt care about the trip and could go by herself in the future if this relationship didnt work out. The most recent fight, which involved me violating her privacy and seeing the WhatsApp texts, she said she still wants to go on the trip with me and wants to make it work.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2640041]I do not think anyone cares where you met her. We are all guilty of the same thing. Unless you guys quit the game playing, end the jealousy and stop asking her about the past it will never work. When I was living in Ukraine and spending time in Russia, people always talked about moving forward in life and not focus on the past. We as Americans live in the past, especially American women. The past is the past, who cares. Let it go.[/QUOTE]It is the reason I'm trying to move forward and make it "work". She said she deleted her WhatsApp business acct. And getting a new number. We will see in the coming months how things unfold. I already know I have 2 variables that are working against me and that is the age gap and dating an ex sex worker.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2640044]When I was hanging out at HK there were very few girls making $500 a night, on the weekend, maybe. During the week it can be tough for those girls, How would not believe that for a second. If she was truly making that kind of money why is she broke now?[/QUOTE]She is funding her parent's home renovation, paid off a cousins credit card, paying for her school, and helping out an aunt that is working in the USA I told her this relationship might not be the right time in her life, but she reassures me this is what she wants. Time will only tell…

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2640062]She is funding her parent's home renovation, paid off a cousins credit card, paying for her school, and helping out an aunt that is working in the USA I told her this relationship might not be the right time in her life, but she reassures me this is what she wants. Time will only tell[/QUOTE]I highly doubt a chica making $500/ night at HK club would be fine with $600/ month, that's absurd. I agree with drama, $500/ night *260 work days = $130 k. Why would she settle with a man twice her age for $7,200/ year. Based on what I've seen at the club, most guys are not taking the girls for arriba.

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2640057]We have another month in Tijuana after the trip and she is going to try private university route for transfer. If not, then I might be traveling once a month to her hometown. Not sure what other concerns you can think of, but would appreciate it since you might have been through similar situation. One time she wanted to see my WhatsApp of the regular I was seeing to make sure it wasn't one of her friends and she said "she is ugly" and promptly deleted the contact from my phone. She was visibly upset and not sure what to make of it. She wants me to visit her hometown so maybe in Feb.

Also with as much psychological shit Ive put her through, she should have walked numerous times. One time I was halfway out the door and she pulled me back and then the other time she was packing her shit and I told her not to leave. I told her Id cancel the trip numerous times all the way back until October. She said she didnt care about the trip and could go by herself in the future if this relationship didnt work out. The most recent fight, which involved me violating her privacy and seeing the WhatsApp texts, she said she still wants to go on the trip with me and wants to make it work.[/QUOTE]Well the first thing is that she has an aunt that worked in Tijuana and had a man leave her. Since the aunt has her ear I wonder if the aunt tells her to make as much money as possible while she is young because once she is older she will be thrown away since guys are always looking for younger girls. Or she wants to find an American to marry since the laws are more in the woman's favor if the guy decides to leave. It seems that she has hinted at wanting to get married or live in the US a couple of times from things you have posted. In another thread you mentioned about not sure how she would get a Visa. So seems like this has been talked about with her. For that I have a lot of experience if you need it.

The second concern I have is more of things that have been talked about on many boards before that I was on just talking about Tijuana. Many talk of girls having their true love usually still living in their home town. It seems odd she would be completely alone at 17 and not have a boyfriend that she was with. When girls are at that age and in love it's hard for them to get over it. So she could be working in Tijuana and helping him until they can be together again. Now I don't know how hard it is to transfer schools in Mexico but seems like she is apprehensive to leave.

Unfortunately my personal experience is much different than yours and when I read of your situation the only thing that I really relate to is just giving up your life in the US to live in Tijuana. The relationship stuff is a lot of people I have known that lived or married bar girls or how friends of my ex would treat guys. Also being able to speak the language helps a relationship and since your girl doesn't have a kid I wonder how you spend most of your time since you don't seem to have a normal job that you go to each day, so the both of you AR stuck at home together for long periods of time and I just wonder if you both enjoy it or if you or her find yourselves trying to find reasons to leave the apartment from time to time just to getaway.

I've said it many times that nothing any of us say should matter as every situation is different and those if us that have read your whole story are aware that you didn't go looking for this to happen it just did. If you really love her and want this just do what you can but don't give up all your money to win her, and if you get married you need a prenup. Had a buddy that had money and he was smart so when she left just after them getting married he wasn't out very much.

Now in her defense I'd say you've been unfair to her in some ways especially not making any effort to have her me t family or friends of yours. In her mind I would think she wonders if you are really married or you are ashamed of her and she's not good enough for you to meet your family.

Not sure if any of this has helped. I do feel bad that the only people you can talk to about this are guys on this board, I was lucky to have a group of friends in Tijuana that were all in a similar situation to relate to and learn from.

One last thing if you really love her and want this to work I would think of surprising her and showing up for Christmas.

Good luck.

The writings on the wall for you KB. I have told you this before but you should break up with this girl. Everyone else I'm sure agrees. At this point I don't think you are going to listen to reason. If any relationship caused me this much drama I would have walked away, especially one that's a few months old. Cut your losses and move on. A blind man could see this is a bad situation. I was really rooting for you too but just being purely objective here. Theres new girls at the bars everyday. I'm sure you can find one that doesn't cause this much headache, or better yet a non working girl. If you're posting this for us to give you advice guidance than this is it. Break it off. This relationship is bad for your health and wallet. But I don't think you are going to listen.