Cali Reports

[QUOTE=Skug37]I’m sitting here about to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] myself from laughing so hard! All of these guys writing in posts thinking that they’ve accomplished some huge feat by visiting "dangerous" Colombia. One may think they were talking about Baghdad or something. By any means, my suggestion to them is to keep their mongering at home in places like Iowa, Kansas, etc. And invite the town’s Deli Clerk for a lunch date, instead of writing all of these posts hammering Cali by placing danger where it doesn’t exist. And for anyone who’s "on the fence" about going to Colombia to Monger, believe me, it is one of the best countries around to Monger. Somehow I think that all of these guys who write about how rough and tough of a place it is, probably get kicked around wherever they go.

After reading all of these posts for the last month or two of these so called "experts" badmouthing Colombia, I decided to take another stand-by flight to Cali for a few days. Boy did I miss that Colombian poon! This time I decided to take another approach, in that I’m kind of bored with the Massage Houses and the Strip Joints. I decided to just walk around in the outside markets in all of the "dangerous" areas and ask women if they wanted sex for 30, 000 pesos (about $17 or so U. S.). Six out of nine accepted. Two of them charged a tad bit more. Nobody at my hotel charged a "guest fee", and once again, nobody tried to rob me, kidnap me, etc. As usual, everyone I came across was really friendly and open. Colombian people are always very open to foreigners and interested in finding out more about foreign culture. It is such a shame that so many people who write in on this site do not return the favor of respect to the people of Colombia. So, if you want to get laid by really hot women for an inexpensive price, go to Cali. If you want to sit at home and jack off and be scared of the world, continue writing inflammatory articles about Colombia.[/QUOTE]

If you think that Colombia is as safe as any large American city, you're a fool. Its more like a midnight walk in Central Park. Or maybe walking around the Bronx with a plackard proclaiming you hate blacks and hispanics.

You survive Colombia in the same way as the locals do: keeping alert, keeping a eye out for danger, local knowledge. Fear is an essential part of survival anywhere and if you ignore that instinct the odds are you'll pay the price one day.

[QUOTE=Tummysangs]Can anyone please suggest what would be the best city to monger for a first timer(very little spanish speaking skills).

Cartagena or MDE or Cali or Bogota?

I prefer light skinned Colombianas.

Thanks for all the help[/QUOTE]

I love Cali: the climate, the women, everything. But if you're a first-time vistor I think I'd go somewhere safer for now. Guys here rave about the MDE chicas but I personally prefer BOG.

Or go to The Mansion etc and take a sampler.

Why confine yourself to the markets where the poor shop? Go find the hottest babes at Chipachape or one of the nightclubs on the Sexta, wait until the BF goes to the head, and then go up and offer her 30,000 Pesos to screw you. To quote those Guinness ads you see on TV "Brilliant!"

This reminds me of this guy posting about how he knew Russian airliners were safe, despite the statistics, because he had sat and watched them take off and land "several times" without incident.

ricker,

skug37 never stated that cali was "absolutely safe" so i'd give the guy a break on that because your statement insinuates that he did.

addictedtowomen,

you wrote:
if you think that colombia is as safe as any large american city, you're a fool.
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i think it is "safe to say" that one can not compare a country (colombia) to any large american city, as you stated. however in comparison of countries, colombia vs usa, you are more at risk in colombia when you leave the big cities which is the reverse in the usa (you are less at risk when you leave the big cities).

i myself think that large colombian cities are just as dangerous as large american cities. more often than not it will more likely depend on the person that gets himself into trouble as opposed to it coming to him. are there exceptions to this? of course there are.

btw- in my home usa city last week, the city settled million dollar payouts to families of persons shot dead by the police. in both (separate) cases the people shot did not have a weapon. in one case the person flipped open a cell phone and the other had sunglasses in their hand. both were percieved as weapons at the time they were shot. many oficers (male and female) are brutal and disrespectful. i have family on the city police payroll that have refused to work with some of their peers because of it. i have a couple of friends in the city counsil that say the city has paid out an average of 45 million dollars over the last 5 years in cases involving police brutality as well.

on the flip side, i have yet to have any colombian (in a large city) tell me of police mistreating average citizens or being disrestful. i'm not saying it never happens (may even be the norm) but in my city, the police (especially the females) have gotten out of hand to the point that we wonder who the criminals really are.


cheers,



cubanut

[QUOTE=Skug37]Don't worry about a thing. I spent about 5 weeks there about 6 months ago and never felt safer. There are police officers on every corner. I stayed with some friends in a supposedly "unsafe" area, but I just noticed that the only difference was that it was better secured than other areas. I only had one problem-that turned out to be an incident that made me feel even safer there. Some guy started follwing me, asking where I was going, what I wanted, etc. He was starting to annoy me, so I just started kicking his ass.... [/QUOTE]



Give me a break Cuba ... I don't think the place is a war zone, I love visiting Cali, I'm there quite often, I have an apartment in Cali with mi novia, I'll be back there tommorrow.

I invite and encourage everyone to visit Cali. They'll meet some great chicas and have a great time.

Just not a good idea to be saying it's "very safe" (the title of his post), "don't worry about a thing."

Cali is fantastic, but it can be dangerous ... it's true.
Not everyone can just start kicking someone's ass like SKUG.

Suerte!

[quote=cubanut]
on the flip side, i have yet to have any colombian in a large city tell me of police mistreating average citizens or being disrestful. i'm not syaing it never happens but in my city the police (especially the females) have gotten out of hand to the point that we wonder who the criminals really are.
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your post deserves a more considered reply that i have time to give right now: i'll try and return to it in the near future.

but on this issue, police corruption and violence is indemic in colombia. the establishment of a police complaints bureau, against the wishes of the army, has been one step to trying to make it a professional force, but there's a long way to go.

the police regularly use [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], violence, and murder against factions and individuals in society, and are happy to stand by whilst honest citizens beat the shit out of criminals knowing that this, in many cases, is the best form of justice the society can deliver.

and for that reason i'm coming to the opinion that, whilst for sure this needs to be reigned in, it also needs to remain until an better form of protecting society from real criminals is put in place. we cannot judge colombian police by the standards we would wish to apply to police forces in the us or europe.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Cali is fantastic, but it can be dangerous ... it's true.
Not everyone can just start kicking someone's ass like SKUG.

Suerte![/QUOTE]

Ricker,

You've got your break Amigo. My apologies.

I was wondering where you got that "Cali is very safe" qoute and had to go back to Skug37's 1-28-07 post which I had not read before.

I was commenting on Skug37's post from yesterday 2-24-07 whereas you were commenting on his post from 1-28-07 where he stated Cali is "Very Safe".

I'm in agreement with you that it is a city where you can keep your guard up and still have alot of fun.


Cheers,


Cubanut

I made my second trip to Cali last weekend and had another good time. Naturally the salsa clubs are always off the hook but I also checked out cancha panamericana. My novia es a caleña so I didn't have too much time to check out P4P.

This is Cali's version of their sports complex, kinda.. similar to what MDE has but not as nice. Anyways if you are looking to get in some exercise there are about 8 basketball courts and there are folks always out there balling. Since Cali's warm you have a lot more people playing basketball than in other cities like Bogotá.

Ok. Don't like basketball well cacha panamericana is still worth a visit for the best Cholados (similar to salpicon but better) and you also have a lot of folks selling pirate CDs so if you want to pick up some good salsa (Grupo Nice, Guayacan, etc.) it's worth a stop.

Cheers,

D

[QUOTE=Charkboy]I dont know one colombian that is faithful its almost like your expected to cheat if your a man. Cali is realy not that dangerous if you go with the right people i.e they do not take you to the bad parts of the city. The girls are good looking but they are definitly typical in Cali[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Charkboy. I am in the DR right now and at the moment the non-pro scene in Santiago sucks. I don't know what these gringos have been talking about but you need game here. I speak excellent spanish so no one can say shit to me about not being able to speak the language. Its not like shooting fish in a barrel like some guys have you believe. I spoke to a friend of mine from Cali. We are about the same age and he has shown me a couple of chicas that he has banged nothing really hot just average. Anyway he was telling me he gets turned down alot more than he gets success. And the only women he can pull are the ones with kids. So unless he is BSing me it sounds like Cali isn't any different. He lives in San Antonio now. I wonder what kind of a place that is.

Master Yoda,

Non pros are always more selective in most Latin countries. The exception I would say is Cuba. Many young Cubanas hook up with older Cubans for whatever reason other than money (remember I said older Cubans and not Gringos).

Since you say you don't care much for non-pros then this shpould not be an issue because there are plenty of pros.


Cheers,


Cubanut

I visited Cali a week ago with a 3 day stay. Took the 4:30 pm Sunday February 18 from Miami direct. Arrived in Cali at 8 pm. Had a non-pro meeting me in the airport. I met her via the internet. She arrives with a friend and from there we go. We drop off her friend and head for the hotel. Stayed at Aparthotel Del Rio 110,000 per night. I got a headached from the non-pro talking so I told her that I was leaving a day early. She says it's best because she has to go to school later in the day anyway. We take a cab to Frisby's, eat, and return to the hotel so she can get her clothes. So, off she goes and off I go, for some mongering.

I shower and then decide to visit Clinica del Amor. There are guys who I guess were waiting for their favorite chicas. I'm greeted by the host and then she brings in the girls. I made my choice after the first greet. I like curvy women, and she had extremely nice curves. So after the routine I pay and off we go. I ask for a pic and she thinks it's for the net. I tell her that I'll just snap a shot from behind and we're all happy. She goes for it. We session and then talk. I ask about her visiting me after work. She says yes and I should come back between 8:45-9pm so we can leave together. I say no, just come to the hotel (my dumb mistake). I session again, and then leave to eat again.

I ended up at Frisby's again, email Mr Enternational, and then return for some rest before the chica arrives. After 9:15, I figure she's not coming. So I order some food, eat, and then prepare for the night. I check out Club Faroah (sp?), grab a water, and look around. It's not that great but I found someone to session with. I figured if I didn't session, I would regret it when I returned. So I take 1 hour with her and then return to the hotel.

I leave Sunday morning to return home. Pics of the room and the chica are in the photo gallery.

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We were in Cali at the beginning of November and hooked up with some non-pros who spent the night with us. My friend returned to Cali two weeks ago to see his. He doesn't speak Spanish and she doesn't speak English. He stayed 3 days at the Sheraton Four Points. Today he told me that when he was about to leave she told him that he had to give her COP 300, 000. He said he laughed at her and gave her taxi money to get back home. WTF?

I thought I'd go ahead and post my experience in Cali. I ended up changing my itinerary and put Cali on the back end of my trip so I could have 4 nights in Cali as opposed to one. I spent Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday night in Cali. When I arrived on Friday I checked out the Apartahotel del Rio and Apartahotel Real (I think thats the name). I opted for Apartahotel del Rio solely because it had a swimming pool (on the top floor). It also seemed higher class. However, I wouldnt say Apartahotel Real is bad by any imignination. In fact Apartahotel Rela you have a choice of rooms with bathtubs even some with Jacuzzis and a Sauna (in the room). I asked about the hot water and sure they had hot water and when I asked is there enough hot water that is going to fill up that huge jacuzzi in my room and they said honestly. No. So I thought since my bags were already at Apartahotel del Rio I'll just stick it out there. As for prices. Maybe they raised them as they were slightly different than posted here. And I did ask them over and over, are you sure its not xyz price. Apartahotel Real. 70k, 80k, and 90k. Depending on room. Room with jacuzzi only 80k, room with Jacuzzi and Sauna 90k, room with neither. 70k. No chica fees if it's only 1 chica. If you bring back 2 chicas at the same time (I. E. A 3 some) then they charge 10k pesos for the 2nd chica. This is what they told me as I did not ask about bringing back 2 chicas at the same time. Apartahotel del Rio it's 92k pesos for a single room (it was very well furnished as I had no need for a junior suite. A room that has a separte living room from bedroom. I ended up choosing a certain room based on it havivng a balcony and a killer bed. Yes, I lay down on all the beds when I look at each room to choose the room with the best matress and pillows. So it's 92k pesos for 1 person or 102k pesos for 2 people. However, if you do the 1 person then it's 92k pesos and if you bring someone back then its another 30k pesos. But I can tell you that this is either not enforced or maybe some people are just luckier than others.

After checking in I went to Olimpica around the corner and bought some things and on the way back took an alternate route solely to check out the casas. Not to partake just to see the chicas. First I went by Calle 23aN 2N-95. That's the address, there was no name on the door. I went in, sat down with about 20 other Colombianos (I was the only gringo). There weren't that many available chicas. In fact only about 3 introduced themselves. The others were all occupied. I asked how many were there and they told me 8. I assume that is why there were so many Colombianos waiting. The 3 that were introduced didn't fit my standards. I. E. Petite and below 50kgs. There was one though that I caught a glimpse of right as I walked in, that from the back-side looked like she had a chance of being a real gem, but she was walking out the back door and I never saw her agian. I sat around there about 20 minutes and then left. Next I went to Clinica del Amor. I sat there about an hour. I saw about 20 different gals. Pretty much 2 or 3 would become availble every five minutes or so. I asked how many were there and they said 30. They also said 2pm is the best time to come as that is when all of them are there. They open at 9am but not all are there until 2pm. It was 5pm and many were taken, so I waited the hour just to know what they all looked like. Only 1 really looked doable in my opinion but I wasnt there for a chica I just wanted to see what they looked like. After an hour I left. Oh. Prices at both these places were exactly what others here have posted.

Next I went back to my hotel and showered and then off to Chipichape. Took me about 2 hours to find the Internet Cafe there as I got sidetracked, as that's an easy way to meet chicas. Asking everyone if they know where the Internet cafe is. Kind of an icebreaker and reason to approach them. So after spending a good 45 minutes chatting up a hottie over a cool lemonade at one of those kiosks in the mall I had a date for the evening. Went to the Internet, then back to my hotel to shower and waited for my date to arrive. And she was on time. Wow. We went to dinner at a place called Faros. It was real close to my hotel. 3, 100 peso minimum cab fare. She chose the place, and what can I say. It was awesome. I had the medallones de lomo in an oriental sauce. About 20k pesos. Yummy. We ate and chitchatted and then went dancing. She took me to a place called Jalajala. A couple of notes. 1) in Cali they dance salsa differently than Barranquilla. In cali they dance kind of far apart, in Barranquilla they dance pegado. The salsa songs they play in Cali are a bit faster as well. We danced pegado though:.) Also, they dance Vallenato differently in Cali. My date told me that I actually dance it correct and everyone in Cali was dancing it incorrect. That made me feel kind of good to know that of the 1000 people I was actually the one with the right moves to the rythm. She told me it's because I learned it in Barranquilla and that's where Vallanato comes from. Which is true. So we stayed till around 3am dancing the night away. The place was still packed when we left so I don't know what time it closed. Woke up at noon, told her I'd call her on Sunday and just kind of just hung around the hotel for a while.

I figured I'd go back to chipichape as it was relatively easy to find a date for Friday night. So around 2pm off I went. As I was talking to some chicas I found out there was a Wisin y Yandel concert at Plaza de Torres so I figured. Oh yeah (I love Regetton) so I need to find someone special. It didn't take too long and soon after I had a date. Fortunately I told her to be at my hotel by 7pm as she showed up about 45 minutes late. We went to dinner, can't remember the place and then off to the concert. We didn't have tickets but it was pretty easy to get them. Though I did pay 100k pesos per ticket, probably overpaid but I didn't care. The concert was awesome and afterward we went bcak to the hotel and saw there was a disco right by the hotel so we went there. I have no idea the name of the disco but it was open until around 5am. We woke up at 3pm on Sunday and I felt like total shit. Headache from hell. By the looks of it she felt just as bad. My body felt like someone had kicked the crap out of me, so I cranked up the ac and just layed in bed till around 6pm.

Finally I decided to get up and didn't have a clue what I'd do that evening so I went downstairs and flagged down a taxi and asked him if Escoces was open and he said no. I asked him what there was to do on a Sunday night and he said Juanchito is the rocking place on Sunday night. So I decided Juancito it is and I remember Surfer saying how hot Juanchito was. So I went back to my room, pulled out my laptop and remembered I had a contact I had met on ciber cupido about a year and a hlaf ago. I had only chatted with this gal about 5-6 times as when I realized I was going to move to Barranquilla I didn't see the need to keep a bunch of contacts all over to Colombia. So I called her up. Her landline was not in service any more so I called her cell phone and sure enough I got her. It was the oddest conversation ever. Imagine calling someone you met on Cibercupido 18 months ago and only chatted via msn a few times a long time ago. She had no idea who I was. We talked for about 15 minutes and I told her I wanted to go to Jaunchito. She was not keen on the idea of Juanchito, but said she wanted to meet me and told me she'd be over in about 45 minutes. She showed up in 30 minutes. With her mother. She was hot, a lot more traditional than I expected. We all spoke in the lobby for about 15 minutes and went through the what do you do, etc. Her mom suggested that we go someone and grab a drink so off we went in a taxi and ended up a place called Iguana. We were pretty much the only ones there. It was Sunday evening around 8pm. It ends up she has a 3 yr old son. We talked for about 2 hours. Actually her mom did most of the talking. I almost wasnt sure who my date was with. I tried to get her to go to Juanchito with me but she had classes in the morning and they both pretty much made it clear that I shouldnt go to Juanchito and that it's not a real classy place. Iguana closed at 10pm (I think everything pretty much closes at 10pm on Sunday night in Cali. So tells me a taxi driver) and we agree to see each other the next day. SO I go back to my hotel, brush my teeth and make my way out the door to Juanchito solo. I know, it probably wasnt the brightest of ideas to go there alone, but I was determined to see what Juanchito was all about. The cabbie told the doorman and myself 10k pesos. I agreed and he didn't even start the meter. The whole way there he told me to not let any cab driver try to take me to the cleaners on the way back. He said they all will quote me 20-25k pesos for a ride back and he told me to insist on 10k pesos and to tell them that was all I had. So we finally get to Juanchito and he was very friendly and gave me a layout of the place. Driving by numerous places he told me all about them and then I asked about the other places he had recommended earlier in the drive which he had not yet shown me. He drove about another 500 meters and told me if I go back and forth from those places he just shwed me to the ones he was now taking me to that I should take a cab as the walk is dangerous across some bridge it looked like. So we get to the other side of the bridge. Se a few more places and then come to a disco called "Changos" with a real long line. The guards in front stop him and he points at me and tells them he's just going to show me the place from the front. He drives right up to the front, someone opens the door, pushes me right up to the front of the line and tells the security to let me right in. I felt like, yeah thats cool. I didn't ask for this but I certainly wasnt going to say "No, Id prefer to go to the back of that line with over 100 people in it. " There was no cover charge and when I got in, I was presently surprised to see a good 700-1000 people. For a Sunday night that was a verry happening place. A chatted around and came to the conclusion that Juanchito is so packed because everything in Cali closes at 10pm on Sunday. If thye are even open at all. I make friends/contacts with various groups and just kind of walk around a mingle a bit to get a feel of the place. After a few hours go by and I've danced with 4-5 different gals I finally settle with 1. I will say that I had numerous gals say no when I asked to dance. Probably 4-5. I even had a little run in with 1 guy as the gal I asked to dance said yes and as we were walking out to the dance floor he grabbed her and wouldnt let her go. I went back to her and said, are we going to dance and she looked at him and then just sat down without him even saying a word. I was going to go make my way over to sit down next to her when a heavy set 40-50 yr old Colombiana (probably 250 lbs) at the next table over with a huge smile on her face grabs me from behind, takes my hand and pretty much just starts dancing with me right then and there until we make it to the dance floor. I got the picture, didn't say another word about it and just enjoyed the dance. Afterward I just walked to the other side of the disco and never heard from them again. I just brought this up as this is one of the issues with going to a disco alone. It's actually not my style at all to go alone, but I really wanted to check out Juanchito. Ok so like I said, I finally chose my prefered chica. Stuck with her for many hours. Somewhere along the line we ended up at the same table with a gentleman who said he was an exec at whatever the bottle of liquor he was drinking was. I can't remember the name as it wasnt one of the usual Ron Medellin or de Caldas which I was used to seeing in Barranquilla. Around 4am he invited us back to his house. I wasnt real confortable with this, but he seemed like a well to do kind of guy. So off we went. There was 9 or 10 of us. We went in 3 cabs. It seemed like a long way and I didn't pay the cab fare. One of the other guys did so I didn't catch how much it was and I had no clue where we were. We got back to his house and it really wasnt my kind of party. A lot of drugs and after saying no about 10 times me and my chica finally left. No clue what time it was as I didn't wear my watch to Juanchito. The sun was up though. Again I woke up around 1pm not felling real good. Got the chica out the door remembering I told my cibercupida gal we'd get together today. I called my ciberchica contact and her and her daughter came over to go swimming. They arrived around 3pm, we spent about an hour in the pool and decided to go see a movie that evening. She brought extra clothes and when we made it up to my room we turned on the tube, baby fell asleep on the bed and we started kissing. I told her we needed to shower if we were going to make a 7: 00pm movie. I was about to ask her if she wanted to shower first and then the kissing got heavy. I walked with her on my feet to the bathroom and in the shower we were. All I can say is WOW. I should have called this gal on Friday. It was the best fuck of my life. No if, ands, or buts about it. We finish, get dressed, take her baby to her house to her mother (no clue where) but I did see a sign close that said Palmetto and there were a bunch of strip clubs a few blocks away so it didn't seem like a real nice neighborhood. Went to the movie, then cabbed back to my hotel where we said our goodbyes as I couldn't convince her to stay the night as she had class the next morning and a baby to attend to. She's a gem though that I will definitely stay in contact with. I pack my stuff up as my plane leaves on Tuesday morning at 9am. Thus need to leave by 5: 30am to taxi to the bus teminal and catch a bus to get to airport by 7pm. It's now around12: 30am and I'm bored. I also realize I left my cigarettes in my chicas purse. I only smoke Marlboro lights so down the elevator I go and one of the porteros walks around the neightborhood with me looking for Marlboro Lights at 12: 30am on a Monday night. We pass by a joint that looks like a strip club and I see a hottie stick her head out the door and I think to myself. Once I find my cigarettes I'll come back to this place. I tell the portero lets get a cab to find cigarettes as it's obvious by this point that we werent going to find Marlboro Lights walking around. We find them at a 24 hour pharmacy type place. I go back to my hotel, brush my teeth, drink a beer and head out the door to this strip joint type place. The place closes at 2am. I can't remember the name but its only about 300 meters from the hotel. I think it was called Pharons over something like that. I go inside. There are about 10 chicas. I see 2 that I like. 1 was talking to someone on the couch so I invite the other that I like over. We chat for about 15 minutes, she dances to the Regetton music for me a few songs and I ask her the prices. It's 60k/hour or 45k/30 minutes. At this point it's like 1: 30am and the place closes at 2am. I had told her that I was leaving for the airport at 5: 30am so she suggests that I just wait for her and she'll come back with me to my hotel at 2am and stay till I need to leave. I said, sure. We never talk price or anything. I go outside around 1: 55am and wait and some other gringos come out. I talk to them about 15 minutes, they tell me that there are also 2 other gringos inside. I didn't even notice. Heck there were only about 8-10 males in the place and 5 of us were gringos. I just didint notice. I guess I was too focues on looking at the chicas. We talk awhile. They are there for a month. I asked them if they had heard of Escoces. They siad they went a few nights earlier and they told me the place sucks. They said the chicas arent hot, the prices are high and they said they've got a ton of numbers of chicas they've met. 20-30. They said they don't even know who to call at times they've met so many chicas. So why go to some overpriced place with no hot chicas. That made me not feel so bad about not checking it out. My chica then comes out and I tell them that I need go. My chica and I walk back to my hotel. Have a beer, a very nice GFE, then fall asleep for an hour, wake up and do it all again, get dressed, I ask her how much she wants. She says how about 50k pesos. I hand it to her, take the elevator dwon with her and flag her a cab, shower and then off to the airport. That's my Cali experience. Overall, I enjoyed Cali. I didn't really feel any danger, though I really didn't get out and explore in the daytime like I've done in other cities. Overall Cali just kind of felt like centro of Medellin or the south areas of Barranquilla. I. E. It's no Pobaldo, but if you keep your wits, speak spanish, and steer clear of upsetting anyone it seems alright. I'd probably say I felt the most insecure at the concert or obviously when it seemed like I upset a Colombiano for asking someone to dance in Juanchito. He was pretty drunk though and I just walked away after the fat lady grabbed me. It's just not worth making a scene to dance with someone you don't even know when there are hundreds of other beautiful women. Ok. That's my stint in Cali. No one flame me. I know I said I was pretty faithful to my girlfriend. Let's just say, I've learned I'm very faithful when I'm in the US and even when I'm living in Colombia in the same city as her. Get me in a different city than her in Colombia and well. I guess I just learned that I'm really not ready to tie the knot again. I do care for her and love her. But I'm not ready for that next step again. Let's leave it at that. Hopefully this info can help someone.

[QUOTE=Winner71]Very good point. I guess I should have said, Id love to drink, dance, relax, chit-chat with some Calenas and all the better if they are in Lingerie, but I don't plan on doing the deed with any of them. Why would I go. Oh, because I'd like to see how Calenas compare to Barranquilleras. Both in looks, personality, attitude. Granted that may not be a fair comparison given that it's working girls of Cali. But it should be interesting and sure, who didn't enjoy a little temptation. Maybe I'll find out I'm not really ready to settle down. I wouldnt be unfaithful, but if the urge was really really great, I would explain my desires to my chica and see what happens from there. Thus. I should have explained that better. Curiosity and temptation. But when I said hit the town. I was kind of thinking just a disco and some friendly conversation. But I do like the Escoces idea better. Need to get the past the curiosity stage wondering what Calenas are really like. I've been to Cali, but I was hitched and set up with a chica before I got there so I didn't really get any feel for what meeting a Calena is all about. That's what I'm up for, does that make more sense now? I didn't think so. Your recommendation of Escoces is great. Thanks again

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Winner71,

You're dancing all over the place now. You first said you only wanted to hit the town. Then you wanted to check out some hot chicks dancing. Then you said you're faithful to your girl. Then you said you want to sit abd drink with the girls. And now you are asking if Cali is worth checking out a couple of days?

Well my friend you can do it all and enjoy it all but ultimately it's all up to you to decide on a path to follow. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]We were in Cali at the beginning of November and hooked up with some non-pros who spent the night with us. My friend returned to Cali two weeks ago to see his. He doesn't speak Spanish and she doesn't speak English. He stayed 3 days at the Sheraton Four Points. Today he told me that when he was about to leave she told him that he had to give her COP 300, 000. He said he laughed at her and gave her taxi money to get back home. WTF?[/QUOTE]Mr Enternational how old r u? the gringo I am talking of is in his 50's and I am speaking of the 10's not average looking women.

Hey Winner 71,

It's great you wrote a report here! You seem like a cool dude, but amigo, do you realize how difficult it is to read your looooooooong paragraphs. I had to stop, giving me a headache :)