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2) Pinay don't like making decisions, period. Girls here especially would rather that YOU lead and make the decisions. It doesn't matter what alternative you offer: Chicken / fries, Jollie / McDo, yada / yada / yada. She will want for you to decide. "Bahala ka (up to you)". Even if she's interested in making the decision, she won't admit that by making the decision. Such decision possibilities were culturally withheld from her since birth.

3) Pinay are not cultured or trained to understand or answer exclusive-or (XOR) questions. Sweetie, you want fries or nuggets? "Yes" (or Bahala ka / Up To You). This is her attempt to not answer your question. Or alternately, she did not understand the question and she won't admit that (save face). Exclusive or questions are meant to be answered with one or the other items. The respondent is expected to choose only one of the items (not both, which would be the Inclusive OR). Probably one of two things are happening: Either she doesn't care which item (fries or nuggets), or she just can't make the decision (culture) and wants to be left out of the process.

[/QUOTE]I wonder if this is why Philippinas are often dispassionate, but open to absolutely anything, lovers?

I've met many who are ok with anything. I've described several as unable to say no. A few have even told me point blank that I can do to them what ever I want.

At the same time they seem to have little interest in self pleasure or maximizing their own enjoyment.

That's why I like a girl who has been pretrained by a couple of pinoy boyfriends: she always has the attitude to do what ever keeps boyfie happy, no questions asked.

It's been very rare to find a girl who takes the lead.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3045541]AND NAND OR NOR XOR, somebody should come up with a graphical representation, similar to the TTL gates.[/QUOTE]Pretty much everyone in my culture understands that when someone offers you something where you must make a choice, you get only one of the items. Offer your American GF a choice between two restaurants (or pieces of jewelry) and she will quickly tell you which one she prefers. However in Phils all that goes out the window.

As an alternative to my fix from below. A slightly different fix to try if you want. When asking her to decide between two items (ex fries or nuggets), put the words "choose one ONLY" at the end of the question. [B]Sweetie would you like the fries or the nuggets? Choose one ONLY[/B]. Emphasize the word ONLY. You might be surprised when she says: "You want me to be the one to decide? I choose fries". The original question of: Sweetie would you like the fries or nuggets? (without telling her to choose just one) might be confusing to her P-english. Seems that they have the same meaning to me, but not to her. From her perspective: [B]Is he asking me to make a decision? I should choose only one? I can choose both? Can I choose none and not answer? AHHHHHHH! Is it easier to just say YES?[/B].

If you think I'm kidding about them not liking decision-making (they fear it with foreigners, but not each other), fall in line in any fast food venue. While waiting in a long line at McDo, watch them not looking at the menu while they wait in line. Friends will chat away with each other, waiting in line a solid five+ minutes. When they reach the cashier to order, THEN they start looking up at the menu. As a small group (say, 2-4 ladies), they stare and stare at the menu. Some or all of them might order, then change their order as the cashier is punching the order into the computer (or just after). They might leave the cash register line they were standing in while ordering, and walk away, looking at different parts of the menu several cash registers over, then come back and change their order again. Its a miracle sometime that the order for them finishes. While they are doing that, you have time to shave. You think to yourself: Five or more minutes in line, and they never once looked up at the menu. And now that they are ordering, they are just now finding out what they want, and they are changing their minds. Why didn't they have an approximate order ready when they hit the cashier? Yet, if she is with you in line, she may or may not have an opinion about what she wants, and she won't complain if you order her a cheeseburger-fries-coke, when she wanted spaghetti. For her, silence is golden when she is with a smart poriner. When she's out with her friends, the decision on what to order is delayed until the last possible moment.

Perhaps not surprisingly for you, when I say to you that when I choose to go to McDonalds (alone or with someone), I choose it because I want a specific thing there (ie, big mac, or sausage-egg-mcmuffin), not available elsewhere. The menu decision was made prior to door entry. But for many pinay. . .

So, ya, the XOR thing was for you Old and Wise fellas, not the pretties we date.

I remember that initially I got angry with my pinay when I asked 2 questions at the same time in chat. She always answered me just one question. But then I realized that it wasn't just my pinay mom's problem because they all behave this way. A pinay almost never answers 2 written questions, but always just one, perhaps the easiest one. So now I always ask one question at a time. Jejejeeje.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045429]And that is one of the many things that frustrate me about the Philippines. We were at the beach and I was trying to place an order. I was asking the lady which is better, the french fries or the chicken nuggets. All she kept saying was yes.[/QUOTE]And there lies the problem MR. E,

Two shitty 'foreign' food choices.

No Lechon about obviously.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045564]I remember that initially I got angry with my pinay when I asked 2 questions at the same time in chat. She always answered me just one question. But then I realized that it wasn't just my pinay mom's problem because they all behave this way. A pinay almost never answers 2 written questions, but always just one, perhaps the easiest one. So now I always ask one question at a time. Jejejeeje.[/QUOTE]On the flip side, if they ask you multiple questions and you start by answering the first, they are totally lost and do not know what you are talking about. You have to remind them by saying look up (I suspect they literally look up in the air instead of looking up in the conversation) so they can see what they asked you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045643]On the flip side, if they ask you multiple questions and you start by answering the first, they are totally lost and do not know what you are talking about. You have to remind them by saying look up (I suspect they literally look up in the air instead of looking up in the conversation) so they can see what they asked you.[/QUOTE]Yes, asking multiple questions, they will answer the very last question. You might be able to blame the educational system for its lack of academic rigour. But I think its something deeper than that, its the culture's low expectation of what is needed in school.

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Phils educational system was changed from approximately 11 years, to 13 years (western standard K-12) some years back, before covid I think. Then about a year or two back, it was changed back to the shorter term. There was moderate discomfort with parents about going longer. A few examples, recently:

Parent #1. An educated Filipino with two sons, both in high school. "Thank God they shortened the schooling back. Its just not needed. We don't need to compete with western countries. Our schools are OUR schools. School should be a fun place where kids go to socialize". And, "Our economy is based on manual labor. The jobs for most people can be done by training a monkey. Don't need a diploma for that. Don't need schooling for that".

Parent #2. A HS grad who went OFW at least twice. "My son will graduate next year". He is finishing high school then. "Yes. But they reduce the time. Now only grade 10 to graduate. Like when I was in school". Apparently some students were grandfathered to the extended year system. "My son goes to school 1 day a week, for 3 hours only". That would seem to me, ma'am, that he will not get his last year's academics by going only 1 day per week, and half a day. "Don't matter. School don't matter. The are taking two years of my son's life". You make it sound like a jail sentence. "Not jail. But its taking. He can be working now maybe, if he's not in school". Didn't your job require a HS diploma when you OFW? "Yes of course but most of our people don't need that. I even keep my youngest son at home now". Really, how old is he? "Seven. He did Kinder and one level. Its enough. School is not important". You are in your 30's now ma'am. You came back from OFW before covid, have you worked since then in a long-term job? "No. I wash clothes the neighbors. P150 each day. Few days each week".

If the locals don't think its important, then it won't be important. We have discussed before at our chicas inability to do math, read, spell, write, talk, analyze, or think outside the box. Any wonder why?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3045707]Yes, asking multiple questions, they will answer the very last question. You might be able to blame the educational system for its lack of academic rigour. But I think its something deeper than that, its the culture's low expectation of what is needed in school.

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Phils educational system was changed from approximately 11 years, to 13 years (western standard K-12) some years back, before covid I think. Then about a year or two back, it was changed back to the shorter term. There was moderate discomfort with parents about going longer. A few examples, recently:

Parent #1. An educated Filipino with two sons, both in high school. "Thank God they shortened the schooling back. Its just not needed. We don't need to compete with western countries. Our schools are OUR schools. School should be a fun place where kids go to socialize". And, "Our economy is based on manual labor. The jobs for most people can be done by training a monkey. Don't need a diploma for that. Don't need schooling for that".

Parent #2. A HS grad who went OFW at least twice. "My son will graduate next year". He is finishing high school then. "Yes. But they reduce the time. Now only grade 10 to graduate. Like when I was in school". Apparently some students were grandfathered to the extended year system. "My son goes to school 1 day a week, for 3 hours only". That would seem to me, ma'am, that he will not get his last year's academics by going only 1 day per week, and half a day. "Don't matter. School don't matter. The are taking two years of my son's life". You make it sound like a jail sentence. "Not jail. But its taking. He can be working now maybe, if he's not in school". Didn't your job require a HS diploma when you OFW? "Yes of course but most of our people don't need that. I even keep my youngest son at home now". Really, how old is he? "Seven. He did Kinder and one level. Its enough. School is not important". You are in your 30's now ma'am. You came back from OFW before covid, have you worked since then in a long-term job? "No. I wash clothes the neighbors. P150 each day. Few days each week".

If the locals don't think its important, then it won't be important. We have discussed before at our chicas inability to do math, read, spell, write, talk, analyze, or think outside the box. Any wonder why?[/QUOTE]I'm no expert but hasn't the absolute IQ number and world ranking risen sharply recently. A coincidence or not but this also aligns with the the School meals program. I don't think it's a long stretch to regard infant nutrition correlates to life long IQ.

Similar to the parents that you mentioned, I have family who will always have menial jobs, not because they couldn't get better but because they themselves believe that that's all they can get. It's not unusual for people to blame "fate" or "society" for their lot in life.

Philippines may have a real excuse beyond lack of ambition or drive. They have spent generations where not having the right political or family connection meant that they had effectively zero opportunity to change their lot in life. That's changing slowly but it's not coincidence that the wealthiest Asians come from family dynasties rather than self made go getters.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3045429]And that is one of the many things that frustrate me about the Philippines. We were at the beach and I was trying to place an order. I was asking the lady which is better, the french fries or the chicken nuggets. All she kept saying was yes. And I kept saying yes what. Which is better? Then she finally said french fries, but only due to the appearance of being frustrated as well. Hell, maybe she was thinking why doesn't this mf know what he wants and wants me to decide for him.[/QUOTE]Years ago I was at the mall buying a shit load of dried mangoes to bring home. I asked the man which was the better brand? He replied any of them from Cebu is good. Then I repeated which one is the better brand? He looked a little irritated with me and proceeded to tell that 2 small bags was equivalent to a days pay! Htf would he know what they taste like. He has never tasted a dried mangoes as most Filipinos couldn't afford it!

A lot of restaurant meals cost close to a days pay for them. That lady may have never ate a French fire or half a chicken nugget there. She couldn't answer which was better. Us dumb foreigners don't realize they don't have a similar life experience as us even though they speak English.

Hi, I would like some advice.

In Davao I found on AirBnb a small apartment near People's Park with one bedroom and kitchen at a daily price of 1,930 Pesos (28 Euros). The owner told me that if I want to rent it for a month I have to pay 28,000 Pesos / month (405 euros), excluding electricity, water, and internet, which I would have to pay separately. The daily price would become 935 Pesos / day (14 euros / day).

It's a nice apartment that I like. Do you think the discount the owner gave me is worth taking advantage of?

What would you do?

It seems like a good proposal to me, but. If I think about it carefully, I can't move anymore. For example, if I want to go to Samal for a week, or visit another city for a few days, all this low apartment price disappears.

I would like your advice.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3045707]Yes, asking multiple questions, they will answer the very last question. You might be able to blame the educational system for its lack of academic rigour. But I think its something deeper than that, its the culture's low expectation of what is needed in school.

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Phils educational system was changed from approximately 11 years, to 13 years (western standard K-12) some years back, before covid I think. Then about a year or two back, it was changed back to the shorter term. There was moderate discomfort with parents about going longer. why?[/QUOTE]Seems the same debate is going on in America. Many people think school is not needed because they can learn shit on youtube or whatever. It does though seem that the ones saying school is not needed are the ones that did not go to school.

I do not know how the educational system in PI works. Before covid I was dating a university dean. I even went to the school and it was more like high school. The students were young as shit. And it really tripped me out when she would talk about calling people's parents about academic or discipline issues. I was like, but these are grown people. What are you calling their parents for? So maybe their university is really our high school.

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045770]Hi, I would like some advice.

In Davao I found on AirBnb a small apartment near People's Park with one bedroom and kitchen at a daily price of 1,930 Pesos (28 Euros). The owner told me that if I want to rent it for a month I have to pay 28,000 Pesos / month (405 euros), excluding electricity, water, and internet, which I would have to pay separately. The daily price would become 935 Pesos / day (14 euros / day).

It's a nice apartment that I like. Do you think the discount the owner gave me is worth taking advantage of?

What would you do?

It seems like a good proposal to me, but. If I think about it carefully, I can't move anymore. For example, if I want to go to Samal for a week, or visit another city for a few days, all this low apartment price disappears.

I would like your advice.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]Mate, it sounds like simple economics.

You've been offered a good rate to stay there a month.

That's the monthly rate. If you like it, take it and stay there for a month.

Work out where you want to go, and where you want to stay, and for how long at each place.

The prices will fall into line accordingly and you'll be able to get the calculator out to assist you in making a choice, whether to take the cheap monthly rent and travel elsewhere, or to book all digs separately.

Happy hunting _ Phil.

First of all, I thank you for the advice. I don't even have the slightest idea how much I can pay for electricity, water, and internet separately in one month. Every day I use my Computer to surf. Does anyone have experience with how much electricity, water, and internet expenses can amount to in a month?

[QUOTE=JonesLover;3045770]Hi, I would like some advice.

In Davao I found on AirBnb a small apartment near People's Park with one bedroom and kitchen at a daily price of 1,930 Pesos (28 Euros). The owner told me that if I want to rent it for a month I have to pay 28,000 Pesos / month (405 euros), excluding electricity, water, and internet, which I would have to pay separately. The daily price would become 935 Pesos / day (14 euros / day).

It's a nice apartment that I like. Do you think the discount the owner gave me is worth taking advantage of?

What would you do?

It seems like a good proposal to me, but. If I think about it carefully, I can't move anymore. For example, if I want to go to Samal for a week, or visit another city for a few days, all this low apartment price disappears.

I would like your advice.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]What Phil said. You've been given a 50% discount so you could go to Samal for two weeks and still be ahead.

Note this doesn't include electricity which isn't cheap in PI. You need to factor this in. Some owners pass on the cost with a markup so ask how it's charged and at what rate. If you need aircon 24/7, then the box type units cost a lot more to run than the modern split systems.

With respect, given the number of questions that you have had answered here, it's about time that you posted an actual girl / city / trip report.

Enjoy. G.

Well, I published something, indeed! I inform you that I usually meet a girl and spend many days with her, so my reports can be disappointing.

The last meeting was with my GF and I have already talked about it.

She was from Almeria (Biliran), she seemed like a sincere girl, but I was wrong.

I had already met her 2 times and we talked a lot in chat and we had a connection. One day I asked her: where are you? She replied: I'm at home. But he told me hesitantly. So I checked: I chatted with her under another name, then asked her to make a video call. When she opened the cam she saw me ahahahaha and I saw her who wasn't at home, but was in Cebu. I told her to fuck off. But then after less than a year we resumed communication. Then we met again and went to Bantayan island together. On the first day I paid for the scooter and the hotel in advance. Then we went to rest. From that moment the ruckus happened. I kept asking her to caress and touch me, but she couldn't. He just wanted lots of sex, but she was just passive. The next day I asked her again to reach over my body and caress me and she couldn't. So I rushed away from Bantayan to Cebu. I paid for her transportation and never saw her again. End of story. It seems incredible to me that for a hand that wasn't extended, she missed out on a nice holiday. To tell the truth, I lost even more than her. Ahahahaa But it served as a lesson to me.

I forgot to mention in my previous post that I don't travel just to look for sex. I travel to visit places, take photos, look for a beautiful, sweet and kind girl. If that's not the case, I won't even approach her. For example, I was in Tacloban and after chatting for a long time with a girl, I asked her if she wanted to come with me to Bantayan island and then to Cebu. He immediately accepted and we arranged to meet at 6. 30 am in the Van Terminal. I waited 30 minutes after that time and realizing that she had screwed me, I went back to the hotel. Then she texted me again telling me she hadn't woken up. So we arranged to meet the next day. She was 20 years old and of a rare beauty. So we take the Van and leave. We arrive at Bantayan and she was very kind to me. Everything was fine with her. We rode all over Bantayan on the scooter, but didn't do anything at night. Hahahahaha he told me it was the first time he went with a foreigner, blah blah blah. I was sure of this, but I was also sure that he had also fucked a lot with his young friends. He always found so many excuses. But he did everything he could to make me happy. Hahahaha Every night she did a striptease in front of me with passion. Her body was exceptional, of a beauty never seen before in the Philippines. So after a week we went to Cebu. Same story. She was often naked next to me with ease. Once I grabbed her and forcefully asked her to have sex. She asked me that she wanted to watch a porn movie first. We watched it and then had sex. But her beauty gave me a lump in my throat. It was the first time I fucked a beauty like that. Ahahah ahhaha ahahah After that day we did lots and lots of dirty things together but not penetrative sex.

After 10 days we broke up and I gave her a little money and told her that if she made me fuck I would give her more.

But she was happy and we still chat. He also has a good heart. Ahahaha jejejej aghahahah.