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[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2776866]LOL I honestly don't know, just has been the case my whole life even though I'm tall and decent looking. I started mongering at like 22 because I just had no luck no matter how much I tried.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you need to work on your confidence.
[QUOTE=ParallaxView;2776879]That really makes me nervous seeing as I have a room this coming Saturday at Cascadas. I stayed last weekend at Rizo and it was pretty outstanding.[/QUOTE]Got to admit, this thread is entertaining. In over ten years of trips to HK / Cascadas, however, I have never heard of this happening to anyone except this guy. I guess it's something to fixate on if you're tired of stories about pussies that are stinky enough to stun passing birds and make them fall out of the sky.
Be ever vigilant and pack plenty of Febreeze.
Or, just ask for a room on a higher floor and get on with a drama-free life. The ST rooms are only on the lower floors.
[QUOTE=Nothing24;2776854]This goes out to SeaBeeJoe because I finally got Judith arriba. They had half of Chavelas blocked off again. Not too many girls working. Seemed like a daytime vibe rather than night time. Spotted two of my regulars and said Hi so I at least had them to fall back on if all else failed. Did quick rounds of the other clubs, all dead. Hardly any girls out on the street. HK was the only place to be on this night and even then it didn't look too great. Grabbed a drink and sat for a while on the second floor as more girls came on duty, but even then not too many better options. Went back downstairs and to my surprise spotted Judith, hadn't seen her in weeks. Contemplated whether to invite her for a drink or just straight up proposition her to go arriba. Opted to just ask her to go arriba and see how she reacted. Thankfully she was super nice and quickly agreed to go upstairs. Didn't discuss a fee or anything, hoping it wasn't a mistake on my part. I had talked to her a couple times before and she's always been pleasant. Won't go into details but I will say she by far exceeded my expectations. Luckily we got a pretty good rhythm going and had great chemistry. Also a lot more sensual than what I imagined and took direction pretty well. I don't know, could be a YMMV situation. She never brought up or asked for the money which always makes the experience better. On our way out when I handed her the standard fee she didn't even count it and stashed it in her purse. I would definitely repeat..[/QUOTE]Het nothing I am glad you finally bagged Judith, if she is there in Feb. I might try her out too. One of the guy on the forums said she had a stinky pussy but from what you posted I am glad that is not the case.
[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2776796]For the uninitiated and / or those new to the forum, read the above very closely at least five times and truly soak in the meaning because it's the most important thing you'll read in this sea of noise.[/QUOTE]Yes oh man I was slipping away from reality.
She has been texting me a lot and showed no signs of asking for money.
We went out drinking a few times in downtown / hipodromo / rubicks etc and she even tipped some waiters, which I never saw any of these girls pay for anything.
I even got free BBFS a few times. I did actually pay her last ticket to fly to Tijuana, but I offered.
Never ever have feelings for these girls. They are very slick, and they are disloyal and love sex. I'm certain that if I continue on with her, the pregnancy lies and guilt trips will come raining down.
Thanks for the replies guys, really helped me a lot.
What's weird is, she didn't want to add me on any social media and hung up on me a few times while I was talking to her when she was back home. She just disappeared for a few hours like she is hiding something or (someone).
I been dating enough of these girls that I should have known better. Hehe.
I'm done with her.
On to HK as a free agent.
[QUOTE=ParallaxView;2776881]I hear you about the chicas standing around at HK looking at their phones. I don't really get it either; the only thing I could think of, was that it has to be somewhat mind numbingly boring just to stand there with a smile on your face only to be walked by constantly. Easier to just talk with friends or surf the net on your phone maybe.
And I've been wondering about this with an ATF of mine that lives in Tijuana that works for an escort company. I haven't forged that kind of relationship with her where I can ask her how much she makes. Or maybe I just don't want to know! She does take trips all over, and recently came back from Miami, so I am thinking that since she is in her mid 20's with no kids to support, no family and some disposable income, she is doing pretty well? Maybe she's in the minority? Granted. She also has a professional career during the day, so I think escorting is a side gig for her because she's told me that she just really likes sex a lot. Which. Of course was a turn on for me![/QUOTE]I have observed the same thing with many girls that will stand next to each other and never initiate any smiles, yet alone try to get my interest. My take on this is that these girls want the guy to make the first move for some reason I believe which is much like the girl in denial that she is not a pro. I could be wrong but that is my take. When I have gone up and said hi or talk to these girls who possess no body language or indicators of interest in the club, they generally are responsive.
[QUOTE=Anthony2023;2776610]What is a ST?
Also what kind of room did you have? I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening in the cheap rooms. I always get a master jacuzzi room and never had any issues. Knowing this now I won't book anything less.[/QUOTE]ST stands for short time, which is referring to guys going into rooms for 30 minutes with the girl which is the standard time alloted for the rental of the room unless you are staying there. I also book the jacuzzi suite and never have had an issue of it being used while I was downstairs. I suppose this issue would be more common with the standard rooms which are rented out for short time use and sometimes there is a wait / shortage of these rooms available for this purpose on the weekends.
[QUOTE=ParallaxView;2776875]Hey, I went down to Tijuana last Friday as well!
You know, I was talking to a girl at HK and she was telling me that some women don't actually go upstairs all that much and just collect drink tickets. Others though go up a lot. I wonder if that's why certain ones show little interest sometimes? At least in that specific instance. They've got the drink ticket. And maybe they'll get another, but that's all they want? Full disclosure: I have no idea what I'm talking about!
Another reason that makes me so happy I have a Global Entry card. Just for unexpected surprises like that. When I'm expecting to sail through, and then there's a line.
And hey. This is my first post on this forum![/QUOTE]Yes I've met girls at tropical, a few years ago, all sudden bunch new spinners were in the club, they were not sex workers just their to have guys buy them 10 dollar beers. These no sex girls, can still mKe a 120 a day I'm sure. That's a lot money. You know how much the burger King, barisiti employees make in Mexico? About 2 bucks an hour. They could meet way more begging for money in street so I tip the maids and coffee places in Tijuana. In Hong Kong, I don't know of they ever hire strictly no sex girls, . But look back at your past girlfriends. The ones who only needed sex once a week. Those are the girls in hk that want to drink or dance for dollars. Remember the ex girlfriend who needed sex 10 times a week. Well those types are going to the hotel often for sex. They don't want drinks, the 2 to 3 bucks a drink they earn is slowing their business model down. Many times after one drink I tell a girl, I'm not having sex today, if you need to go have sex we will not have another beer together. Most leave. Me alone. I give them two bucks to avoid negative slap in the face again hehe.
Sat Dec 31 I had planned to meet up with a few wingmen and other bros from out of town for NYE party in HK, but had to cancel to party with relatives from out of town, whom I had not met a few years. The following narratives are from wingman Obiwan Kenobi.
3 weeks before NYE, all Cascada's single rooms were booked. 1 week before, all rooms and suites were booked. This event has gotten more popular than HK and Cascada have rooms to house and feed clients.
By 3 PM all tables on main floor and balcony were sold out for bottles services. HK had lots of regular clients, also many new weird, unusual characters, looking like aliens in Mos Esiley cantina. Lots of new young girls came in for the party. By 7:30 PM the club was packed and in full roar. At midnight count down, 2 night managers got on stage with Jabba with his huge belly and signature blue Tshirt, and shirtless Steroid Bob with lots of tats covering his torso and muscular arms, along with their respective GFs, Cielo and Ashley, popping champagne bottles, counting down and cheering with the boisterous crowd. Confetti were raining down with sparkling Roman candles lit up on the balcony. Jabba and Steroid Bob rained hundreds dollar bills from the stage, about $2,000-3,000 in all. Meseros, guys and girls were stampeding to pick up from the floor. Guess where their money came from.
Girls were happy, smiling, boisterous. Wingmen bought 4 liquor bottles plus a couple champagne bottles for the girls, average $300 each. They sat in the corner table doing small talks with girls and drank all night. Obiwan took Cristina upstairs, a sweet-looking young girl from CDMX in the pic. He has 2 rules for all bar girls, #1 must have at least 2 shots, #2 must be all BB. If they meet both rules, they are his "troopers. " he has lots of troopers in HK hehe. Cristina stayed in his room about 2 hours. He fucked her nonstop, ate her out, said her pussy was sweet, juicy, smelling sexy, made her come 3 times. There were no knocks; likely Cascada's attendants were overloaded with the crowd. Man, she's one of the sweetest-looking, fresh young girl. He took 2 other girls to the hotel the same night, popped 6 times. Damn.
Wingman Papaya's ex HK GF, Macarena, 26, bought her own airfare from GDL, booked her own room in Cascada, arrived by 8 on Friday night just for him. HK black lists all ex HK girls; they are not allowed to enter the club or Cascada. Obiwan had to call Cascada's manager to make an exception for her to check in. She sat with him 3 nights in the club. He had a stack of 500 dollar bills on the table to rain on his favorite strippers. Guys kept staring at her, came by, told him he had the hottest girl in the club. She stayed and BB him 3 nights in the suite, had a 3-some with 2 other HK girls, had her pussy eaten by one while Papaya was doggying another, then they were doing 69's on each other while one sucked his balls. It was a hot orgy fueled by lots of alcohol and who knows what else they smoke. HK girls are horny and decadent, like their pussies fucked and eaten. They would fuck anyone, anything to get their pops. According to Papaya, he offered her "a little money" but she declined, said she's in love with him. She's about his grand daughter's age, so you know something will eventually be exchanged. It will likely cost him a lot more down the road hehe.
Papaya had other hot girls sit with him all night, like the 3 in the pic. He bought them $30 champagne flutes, then a few $300 champagne bottles to split. The dedicated Mesero kept his eyes on the bottles, poured liquors for guys and champagne generously for the girls, gave them a ficha for each flute. In addition to Macarena, Papaya took total 8-10 girls to the hotel that night, we lost count. He gave no details how he got it up, but likely enjoys pleasuring girls by eating pussies, sucking clits.
Papaya also had more hot girls flown in on Sunday. As a rule, the girls will stay in "exclusive" relationships with their bar BFs and won't fuck the wingmen, at least until they officially break up, but they are cool with BFs fucking other bar girls, sometimes involve themselves in 3 or 4-somes. Bar girls have the best jobs in Mexico, high pays, fun partying, alcohol, smokes, snorts, adoration and hot sex all night. These young girls seem desperate, giving away free samples of sex and companionship to big spenders, hoping to hook rich guys long term. A wingmen have been having GF relationships with HK girls, visiting them in their hometowns, getting unlimited BB sex, 3 meals a day, clothes washed and ironed, all-night parties with locals, vacation tours ect; just to show how you can have personal relationships with hot HK girls if you spend money in the club.
NYE HK's main floor, Chavelas and Miami were all packed, difficult to move around. The place was noisy and boisterous, yet happy and civilized, people were sharing fun and excitements, no scuffles or fights broke out all night. It felt like a fun, happy and civilized place to party with hot girls and wingmen.
Wingmen are from So Cal, go to HK just about every week for the last 10 years, spend thousands each visit and connected with lots of hot HK girls. Their bar dates look surprising young, fresh and pretty now after all those years.
That's how mongers party with hot bar girls in HK NYE. This info and pics are by Obiwan's account, not mine.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2776866]LOL I honestly don't know, just has been the case my whole life even though I'm tall and decent looking. I started mongering at like 22 because I just had no luck no matter how much I tried.[/QUOTE]CaliGuy, brother I feel you and I appreciate your honesty. I lived in Southern California for over 8 years in the Navy by the city of Oxnard when I was stationed at Port Hueneme. Then 3 years in San Diego after I retired from the Navy working for the government as a civilian. I know the dating scene in California especially southern California is very challenging, and I didn't have any luck as well besides a few short term flings. I started mongering in Tijuana back in 2000 because I didn't have the time to waste on trying to "date" the traditional way to get sex. I didn't want to invest time, money, and my heart only for a girlfriend to leave me when when I was deployed for 6 to 9 months. Tijuana offered an affordable way to satisfy my sexual needs and to provide some "fake" or transactional relationships with some hot women. If you are happy mongering that is cool, for me I will keep using it as a way to have sex. But the problem is when mongers try to "save a hoe" or they start having "feelings" for a working girl. It never works out, most girls will always return to sex work for the easy money, and most only stop when they are too old to do it or they die. Look most of the hookers have a pimp or a live in boyfriend that they love, they only view a monger as an income source. I met a 53 yo hooker in Chicago so "retirement" is varied for these women LOL. Look brother if you want a descent relationship try to work on you, there are resources out there like AMS (alpha male strategies) on you tube he is very good at dating advice. Also check out Coach Corey Wayne and read his book 3% man. I think they will benefit you a lot in your continence with women, and also teach you what women really want. These books apply to all women and not just the American ones. Lastly please do not be a "simp" to a sex worker, no matter that they say or do in the end you will only end up being hurt and broke, FYI from my past experience. Good luck man and lets have a beer the next time I am in Tijuana which should be in Feb.
[QUOTE=ParallaxView;2776885]Is Hotel Ticuan in Zona Rio? My geography is horrible, forgive me. I bring it up because on a weekend, it isn't *that* much more than Hotel Rizo or Cascadas. Really. Even on a weekday it isn't either, and it is possible Hotel Ticuan may be the same price or even cheaper depending on the weekday.
I like staying in the Norte though simply because that is where the action is. That said. I'm starting to reconsider that since when recently trying to schedule with some escort agencies in Tijuana, they specified that the girls didn't go to the Norte hotels like Rizo / Casadas. That alone will likely be the dealbreaker and I may start going to Ticuan instead.[/QUOTE]Ticuan is in Zona Centro albeit more toward the southern end of Centro. Here's the full address: Hotel Ticuan, see. 8 va. Miguel Hidalgo 8190, Zona Centro, 22000 Tijuana, b. C, Mexico.
[QUOTE=AllAboutAss;2776943]Yes oh man I was slipping away from reality.
She has been texting me a lot and showed no signs of asking for money.
We went out drinking a few times in downtown / hipodromo / rubicks etc and she even tipped some waiters, which I never saw any of these girls pay for anything.
I even got free BBFS a few times. I did actually pay her last ticket to fly to Tijuana, but I offered.
Never ever have feelings for these girls. They are very slick, and they are disloyal and love sex. I'm certain that if I continue on with her, the pregnancy lies and guilt trips will come raining down.
Thanks for the replies guys, really helped me a lot.
What's weird is, she didn't want to add me on any social media and hung up on me a few times while I was talking to her when she was back home. She just disappeared for a few hours like she is hiding something or (someone)..[/QUOTE]Yes you did the right thing, if you want a girl that is acceptable for dating, don't look for one in the zona norte. This is my mantra now, even a few sex workers I met in the past told me the exact same thing, because who knows a woman better then another woman LOL.
[QUOTE=ParallaxView;2776885]Is Hotel Ticuan in Zona Rio? My geography is horrible, forgive me. I bring it up because on a weekend, it isn't *that* much more than Hotel Rizo or Cascadas. Really. Even on a weekday it isn't either, and it is possible Hotel Ticuan may be the same price or even cheaper depending on the weekday.
I like staying in the Norte though simply because that is where the action is. That said. I'm starting to reconsider that since when recently trying to schedule with some escort agencies in Tijuana, they specified that the girls didn't go to the Norte hotels like Rizo / Casadas. That alone will likely be the dealbreaker and I may start going to Ticuan instead.[/QUOTE]I believe Ticuan is near Zona Norte or within it, I've never stayed there but the feedback I've seen for it online is good. Although I don't know if agencies are willing to send girls there. I stay in Zona Rio because it's nice and clean, a lot of civvie girls, good places to eat / coffee and I just prefer a clean, modern, chain type of hotel; yes you do have to pay for that premium but I go to Tijuana so infrequently now so I roll with it.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2777112]I believe Ticuan is near Zona Norte or within it, I've never stayed there but the feedback I've seen for it online is good. Although I don't know if agencies are willing to send girls there. I stay in Zona Rio because it's nice and clean, a lot of civvie girls, good places to eat / coffee and I just prefer a clean, modern, chain type of hotel; yes you do have to pay for that premium but I go to Tijuana so infrequently now so I roll with it.[/QUOTE]Hotel Ticuan is about a 3/4 mile (15 minute) walk down Constitucion (or Revolucion) Ave from Hong Kong. Technically in Zona Centro basically on the other side of Revolucion after you get past the main drag with all the bars / restaurants. Some prefer it but I'd personally not want to stay that far from the action.
[QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2777112]I believe Ticuan is near Zona Norte or within it, I've never stayed there but the feedback I've seen for it online is good. Although I don't know if agencies are willing to send girls there. I stay in Zona Rio because it's nice and clean, a lot of civvie girls, good places to eat / coffee and I just prefer a clean, modern, chain type of hotel; yes you do have to pay for that premium but I go to Tijuana so infrequently now so I roll with it.[/QUOTE]It's in Zona Centro and agencies send girls there. They check ID and are safe.
[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2777151]Hotel Ticuan is about a 3/4 mile (15 minute) walk down Constitucion (or Revolucion) Ave from Hong Kong. Technically in Zona Centro basically on the other side of Revolucion after you get past the main drag with all the bars / restaurants. Some prefer it but I'd personally not want to stay that far from the action.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=CaliGuy33;2777112]I believe Ticuan is near Zona Norte or within it, I've never stayed there but the feedback I've seen for it online is good. Although I don't know if agencies are willing to send girls there. I stay in Zona Rio because it's nice and clean, a lot of civvie girls, good places to eat / coffee and I just prefer a clean, modern, chain type of hotel; yes you do have to pay for that premium but I go to Tijuana so infrequently now so I roll with it.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at Ticuan once, and it was really nice. And so easy. And pretty much every Tijuana escort agency is willing to send girls to Ticuan.
Let's be honest. It really isn't very far from the action unless a short taxi ride is too much. And in the daytime, a relatively short walk. Though I admit, being able to step outside of a hotel in the Norte and right in the thick of things is nice. Hotel Velario is right near Hong Kong and was one that I used a few times because of its cost, and its good ratings. An escort from Tania's Hottijuana had no problem going there but Musas explicitly states that no girls from their site will go to Velario.
Caliguy. Ticuan *is* a modern, chain type of hotel. It is about the exact definition of one.