EL: I am 60+, 182, 80 kilos looking around 50 so still possible for me to date reasonable young woman without paying, obviously if you are fat, looking old, drunk face. Difficult to date woman of any kind.
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EL: I am 60+, 182, 80 kilos looking around 50 so still possible for me to date reasonable young woman without paying, obviously if you are fat, looking old, drunk face. Difficult to date woman of any kind.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2479617]To say that US strip clubs are a lame rip off if you know FKK is a huge understatement. The girls are not particularly better looking than Sharks girls. And in 90% of clubs not even as good looking as Sharks girls.
To correct and clarify a few things:
There are two types of clubs and this varies by state. You are correct that the fully nude clubs don't allow touching (rare exception is the Palamino in Vegas). But topless clubs virtually all allow tit squeezing and some girls may allow over the bikini pussy touching. I only know of one lame club in Boston that is strictly no touch.
Some clubs may stretch the law and somehow "overlook" hanky-panky in the club. If you want full on sex then Detroit is the only place with reliable FS in the clubs. I have gotten hand jobs and BJ in various clubs throughout the US.
My favorite club is Baby Dolls in Dallas. Lots of pretty girls. 5 simultaneous stages. Gotten both a HJ and a BJ there.
You will easily drop $400+ In a US club for some tittle feeling and grinding. Totally not worth it if you know FKK but it can be fun if you have money to burn and set low expectations going in.[/QUOTE]For a short time, I was a taxi driver in Las Vegas. I only made minimum wage, tips and kick backs from the strip clubs. The strip clubs generally kicked back the cover charge $30, if I brought them a customer.
Palomino is an old club in North Las Vegas and total nude. They were grandfathered in to sell alcohol. The girls I saw were average. I didn't take any tourist there.
Spearmint Rhino, topless, alcohol. Hot girls and club.
Sapphires topless, topless, alcohol. Hot girls and club.
Cheetahs topless, topless, alcohol. Average girls and club.
Little Darling Nude No alcohol. I never went to that club.
Lap dance $20 per song. If you go to the VIP room, can be $100 per song. It is easy to drop a lot of money in this environment for No Sex.
Rules: You cannot touch the girl. Girl is topless and grinds up against you. Depends on how nasty the girls is and usually gives you a woody.
Locals do not pay cover charge.
I only go to strip clubs when I have friends from Germany, Japan or Hawaii come and want to experience an Las Vegas strip club. Otherwise, I don't go to strip clubs. I look forward to my yearly or semi-yearly visit to FKK in Germany.
I look forward to hopefully go to Germany in May, 2021.
What FKKs lack that stripclubs have is the entertainment level. If you don't count in the sex / room I usually have more fun in stripclubs than FKKs. To me most FKKs would be better with a little bit more show, party, disco vibe: Most places could make it easier to order drinks (most FKKs have such low service levels when ordering drinks, pehaps due to 90% of orders are at zero value and maybe treating bar workers from EE badly?) make the atmosphere more enjoyable. Like Hong Kong club in Tijuana Mexico. Samya in Köln was the most enjoyable FKK I have been to in that sense.
[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2479720]Thanks for the replies about US strip clubs. If I wanted to do a US strip club tour which would be the best to go to? Las Vegas?
If any of you have been to Globe (and who was at Sharks previously) there is a Romanian girl, early 20's, called Megan who is a real beauty, I'd say. A 10. Do you get girls like that working in strip clubs who will do BJ / HJ?[/QUOTE]Megan will be 25 soon. If You saw new German Sofia with far prettier face than Linda. When I see American women, even maybe Mexicans and Puerto Ricans in US clubs, but I doubt for same level of looks.
[QUOTE=Wiild;2479811]What FKKs lack that stripclubs have is the entertainment level. If you don't count in the sex / room I usually have more fun in stripclubs than FKKs. To me most FKKs would be better with a little bit more show, party, disco vibe: Most places could make it easier to order drinks (most FKKs have such low service levels when ordering drinks, pehaps due to 90% of orders are at zero value and maybe treating bar workers from EE badly?) make the atmosphere more enjoyable. Like Hong Kong club in Tijuana Mexico. Samya in Kln was the most enjoyable FKK I have been to in that sense.[/QUOTE]I found the termas of Brazil to be better in this regard than the FKKs as well. There was often more of a party atmosphere with lots of passionate DFKing and naughty "couch play" before going to a room to do the full nasty.
In my opinion, the quality of strip clubs has declined a lot in the US in the last 20 years. In mid to late 90's, when I was still quite young, it seemed like many full nude clubs had pretty hot girls, were more permissive, and of course prices were low. I had visited clubs in Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Austin, Vegas, San Diego, LOS Angeles, San Fran, Baltimore and Phoenix in the ten years between 1995 to 2005. Gradually, my visits to strip clubs have declined, ironically as I am able to afford them properly. One reason is that I discovered FKKs a while ago, and also sugar babes in the US. Secondly, my own personal relationship status changed. As others said, strip clubs are great for hanging out, have some drinks and perhaps have a few lap dances. Back then too, the lap dances were very intimate and of course I was a young buckaroo full of sperm wanting to explode, and I did unfortunately soil my pants in a few lap dances. Tootsies and Scarlets in Miami, a few joints in LOS Angeles (one very near airport, one in Van Nuys, a couple in Inglewood all were terrific. One of the prettiest girls I had ever seen was in one of those strip clubs and I had more fantasies about her than I care to admit), PT's? In Missouri near St Louis, Tanga Lounge and Mons Venus in Tampa, the aforementioned SF clubs (market street was a dump, but New Century and Mitchell Bro's at O Farrel), Centerfolds in Phoenix, all have happy memories for me. As someone said below, I had a few BJs in San Fran clubs, the only place that happened inside the club for me, but For a few hundred, it was possible to fuck strippers outside the clubs in some locations if you worked on them enough. But high friction contact was readily available - yes fully nude - in several clubs in several cities then which I understand is no longer true. Seems like many municipalities have clamped down on strip clubs in US. That said, I have hardly visited any of late, my last club visit must have been like 5 years ago when I was on business was bored and drive over to Scarlets in Miami. BTW, to the original question, some of the best lookers I have ever seen were in US strip clubs and not even the best FKK girls are comparable. (I had fucked Megan in Sharks, and no she is not a 10 in my view, and if she is a 10" there were quite a few 11's and 12's in US strip clubs). But when it came to sex in strip clubs, you also better be careful because the girl can get you thrown out by a nasty bouncer. One time the guy next to me getting a lap dance in a strip club in Inglewood CA had unzipped his pant, perhaps with the intent of jacking off while the girl was dancing a few inches away and almost instantly a massive bouncer appeared, pulled him up and threw him out while the girl was cursing him.
[QUOTE=Kawaii50;2479780]For a short time, I was a taxi driver in Las Vegas. I only made minimum wage, tips and kick backs from the strip clubs. The strip clubs generally kicked back the cover charge $30, if I brought them a customer.
Palomino is an old club in North Las Vegas and total nude. They were grandfathered in to sell alcohol. The girls I saw were average. I didn't take any tourist there.
Spearmint Rhino, topless, alcohol. Hot girls and club.
Sapphires topless, topless, alcohol. Hot girls and club.
Cheetahs topless, topless, alcohol. Average girls and club.
Little Darling Nude No alcohol. I never went to that club.
Lap dance $20 per song. If you go to the VIP room, can be $100 per song. It is easy to drop a lot of money in this environment for No Sex.
Rules: You cannot touch the girl. Girl is topless and grinds up against you. Depends on how nasty the girls is and usually gives you a woody..[/QUOTE]I do not see a point in these strip clubs in USA. You basically go there to get boner and go home LOL. At least the club could do is offer BBBJ service for extra 100 USD, which already is rip off compare to Germany.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2479830]In my opinion, the quality of strip clubs has declined a lot in the US in the last 20 years. In mid to late 90's, when I was still quite young, it seemed like many full nude clubs had pretty hot girls, were more permissive, and of course prices were low. I had visited clubs in Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Austin, Vegas, San Diego, LOS Angeles, San Fran, Baltimore and Phoenix in the ten years between 1995 to 2005. Gradually, my visits to strip clubs have declined, ironically as I am able to afford them properly. One reason is that I discovered FKKs a while ago, and also sugar babes in the US. Secondly, my own personal relationship status changed. As others said, strip clubs are great for hanging out, have some drinks and perhaps have a few lap dances. Back then too, the lap dances were very intimate and of course I was a young buckaroo full of sperm wanting to explode, and I did unfortunately soil my pants in a few lap dances. Tootsies and Scarlets in Miami, a few joints in LOS Angeles (one very near airport, one in Van Nuys, a couple in Inglewood all were terrific. One of the prettiest girls I had ever seen was in one of those strip clubs and I had more fantasies about her than I care to admit), PT's? In Missouri near St Louis, Tanga Lounge and Mons Venus in Tampa, the aforementioned SF clubs (market street was a dump, but New Century and Mitchell Bro's at O Farrel), Centerfolds in Phoenix, all have happy memories for me. As someone said below, I had a few BJs in San Fran clubs, the only place that happened inside the club for me, but For a few hundred, it was possible to fuck strippers outside the clubs in some locations if you worked on them enough. But high friction contact was readily available - yes fully nude - in several clubs in several cities then which I understand is no longer true. Seems like many municipalities have clamped down on strip clubs in US..[/QUOTE]Then what are you supposed to do in US strip clubs? Just pay to get a boner and go home after? LOL.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2479830]In my opinion, the quality of strip clubs has declined a lot in the US in the last 20 years. In mid to late 90's, when I was still quite young, it seemed like many full nude clubs had pretty hot girls, were more permissive, and of course prices were low. I had visited clubs in Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Austin, Vegas, San Diego, LOS Angeles, San Fran, Baltimore and Phoenix in the ten years between 1995 to 2005. Gradually, my visits to strip clubs have declined, ironically as I am able to afford them properly. One reason is that I discovered FKKs a while ago, and also sugar babes in the US. Secondly, my own personal relationship status changed. As others said, strip clubs are great for hanging out, have some drinks and perhaps have a few lap dances. Back then too, the lap dances were very intimate and of course I was a young buckaroo full of sperm wanting to explode, and I did unfortunately soil my pants in a few lap dances. Tootsies and Scarlets in Miami, a few joints in LOS Angeles (one very near airport, one in Van Nuys, a couple in Inglewood all were terrific. One of the prettiest girls I had ever seen was in one of those strip clubs and I had more fantasies about her than I care to admit), PT's? In Missouri near St Louis, Tanga Lounge and Mons Venus in Tampa, the aforementioned SF clubs (market street was a dump, but New Century and Mitchell Bro's at O Farrel), Centerfolds in Phoenix, all have happy memories for me. As someone said below, I had a few BJs in San Fran clubs, the only place that happened inside the club for me, but For a few hundred, it was possible to fuck strippers outside the clubs in some locations if you worked on them enough. But high friction contact was readily available - yes fully nude - in several clubs in several cities then which I understand is no longer true. Seems like many municipalities have clamped down on strip clubs in US. That said, I have hardly visited any of late, my last club visit must have been like 5 years ago when I was on business was bored and drive over to Scarlets in Miami. BTW, to the original question, some of the best lookers I have ever seen were in US strip clubs and not even the best FKK girls are comparable.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you on this. I had so much fun at many Miami clubs (Tootsie, and others I forgot names), Spearmint Rhinos in Vegas and LA areas, Tropical Lei in east of LA, Mitchell Brothers in SF etc etc up until about 10-12 years ago. All were full service, most cases inside the club discreetly and some cases OTC, if you are good with the girls. I even got few total freebies from few US strippers over the time. Alas, gone are those days.
BTW, you can try GT in Vienna right now. They are fully open normal (not much Covid scare in Austria now), and average quality is pretty good, no too fat with cottage cheese, mostly 18-25 slim and few really beautiful faces, mostly good personalities too.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2479843]I do not see a point in these strip clubs in USA. You basically go there to get boner and go home LOL. At least the club could do is offer BBBJ service for extra 100 USD, which already is rip off compare to Germany.[/QUOTE]Dude, this is USA we are talking about! At least throw in a BBBJ, you say? Like "at least give them a salt and pepper shaker with those fries!" LOL. Here, our presidents risk impeachment to get a quick blowjob from a slightly out of shape GND haha. If only obtaining head was so easy.
Yes, go home and rub one off or put a condom on and let the girl grind you to climax where such lap dances are possible (and dispose it off in the men's room).
[QUOTE=MrHo;2479637]What stops American entrepreneur to open maybe not the same, but similar set up as FKK in USA? Legal restriction? But I thought in Nevada and some states, prostitution is legal, so something similar to FKK set up can be done if some entrepreneur is brave as Larryflynt.[/QUOTE]If it was possible it would have been done. Only one state, Nevada, allows prostitution and then the counties within that state need to pass a law allowing businesses to provide the service. Highly populated counties do not vote to allow so a handful of sparsely populated counties about an hour outside of Las Vegas do have legal prostitution. It's a widely believed fallacy that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas. Yes it's available if you know where and how to look but it's not either legal or encouraged. A few years ago it was more tolerated in all casino bars to have working girls hanging around but most places no longer allow them to take up space. Some casinos still tolerate them if the girls are not too obvious about it and act like they are interested in playing the gambling machine at their bar seat.
Regarding strip clubs I think "value" might depend on whether you are a drinking and party kind of guy or not. Because I am I go to Pattaya as well even though the hottest girls will rarely leave with me for sex (because I'm not Asian). Still I love the vibe and energy of being in that loud and wild agogo bar environment. And for a party Spearmint Rhino Vegas on a Friday night makes an Pattaya gogo bar seem dull by comparison. The energy in the place is just off the chart. And like fishing sometimes you're able to hook something to take home and eat. So yeah if you just want a quiet evening and easy sex the FKKs are perfect for you. If you want a wild party time and a challenge to find sex Vegas is a great.
If you're really looking for sex in Vegas though don't go to strip clubs. Look at the main bars in each casino very late at night for single girls in high heels playing machines.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2479882]If it was possible it would have been done. Only one state, Nevada, allows prostitution and then the counties within that state need to pass a law allowing businesses to provide the service. Highly populated counties do not vote to allow so a handful of sparsely populated counties about an hour outside of Las Vegas do have legal prostitution. It's a widely believed fallacy that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas. Yes it's available if you know where and how to look but it's not either legal or encouraged. A few years ago it was more tolerated in all casino bars to have working girls hanging around but most places no longer allow them to take up space. Some casinos still tolerate them if the girls are not too obvious about it and act like they are interested in playing the gambling machine at their bar seat.
Regarding strip clubs I think "value" might depend on whether you are a drinking and party kind of guy or not. Because I am I go to Pattaya as well even though the hottest girls will rarely leave with me for sex (because I'm not Asian). Still I love the vibe and energy of being in that loud and wild agogo bar environment. And for a party Spearmint Rhino Vegas on a Friday night makes an Pattaya gogo bar seem dull by comparison. The energy in the place is just off the chart. And like fishing sometimes you're able to hook something to take home and eat. So yeah if you just want a quiet evening and easy sex the FKKs are perfect for you. If you want a wild party time and a challenge to find sex Vegas is a great.
If you're really looking for sex in Vegas though don't go to strip clubs. Look at the main bars in each casino very late at night for single girls in high heels playing machines.[/QUOTE]Alright, it would be good business to set up FKK like set up in Nevada and call it "United colors of college tuition fee support center" LOL!
I am not that into Thai girls, but I do like Eurasian (mixed blood, half white, half Asian), which are rare bleed to find in Thailand or any nations in Asia actually, but now and them, I manage to find Eurasian stunner (About 1 to 3 per year and I am constantly in search for them in the mongering market).
Having said that, I am glad we all know where is the best places for mongering and we just have to fly. And hey, it is nice we travel at the same time of mongering, it kind of have synergy affect and make the trips we take more memorable. Only down side is we mostly only go to same countries or even same cities when we take our trips LOL! But at least when we see or hear Berlin, Frankfurt, NRW cities or Zurich, it put smile on our face as these cities are filled with amazing obscene memories that we cherish for life. Isn't it great?
A while ago, quite a few of my co-workers, especially the sales guys, would occasionally or even frequently head out to a local strip club after a long day at work when on road. Even the lady co workers would join them. Now? Forget it! This is definitely one area where feminist influence has been seen in US work place
But younger generations are largely eschewing strip clubs and company-expensed strip club business meetings are a thing of the past due to workplace changes. Recently, sportswear maker Under Armour told employees they could no longer write off expenses for strip club visits, with the Wall Street Journal reporting employees being told that "strip-club visits were symptomatic of practices women at Under Armour found demeaning. ".
The lack of millennial may face a bigger challenge for adult entertainment outlets. "The Baby Boomers are retiring. They were for 20 years an amazing customer base," Alan Markovitz who operates gentlemen's clubs in four states recently told the BBC. "The millennial are not coming to the strip clubs that much. That's the issue."
[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48667681[/URL]
[URL]https://www.foxbusiness.com/industrials/strip-clubs-are-getting-a-high-tech-overhaul-but-will-it-be-enough-to-save-them[/URL]
Sorry, don't mean to be trolling here but this is probably of some interest to US old timers.
[URL]https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-31/ron-jeremy-charged-additional-counts-of-sexual-misconduct[/URL]
I was never a fan of this guy but he has his share. I am surprised he is sill able to get it up after so much fucking, get it Hard enough enough to be are a p in g these girls as per the allegations. He has been forever out of shape as we all know.
[QUOTE=Pessimist;2479893]A while ago, quite a few of my co-workers, especially the sales guys, would occasionally or even frequently head out to a local strip club after a long day at work when on road. [/QUOTE]It is interesting that you say that. Like at one of my first sales jobs, my boss always called us prostitutes. LOL. That was how I realized there was no difference. So I do believe sales people are having an easier time understanding the hardships of the work P6 or stripper girls have to live with. And sales people might also therefore have less prejudice towards this type of work.