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[QUOTE=KiwiBoy;1754235]Never read anything on steady barfines, one of my regulars has just informed me.

40 k will provide me with never needing to pay her barfine again, she explained 20 k for the bar 20 k for her, which she receives after 2 weeks.

Does any members have any knowledge on this subject?[/QUOTE]I think that is to buy her away from the bar. I have never understood this. Why wouldn't she just quit? And why spend 40 K on 1 hooker? I thought part of the idea was to get as many as you wanted whenever you wanted. Seems more logical to just find a normal girlfriend or cut out the middle man.

I will do this report in AC forum as it started with AC bg's. I am in Cebu for 6 days and my dance card is pretty full without even going out to shop. How is that? As you may remember in AC I like fresh out of province girls. Most of these girls plans are to come to AC to make 5-10 k for family or medical needs and then return home. A couple of theses girls live around Cebu and will be visiting me in the next few days.

These past few days I have been visited by "Ann" and her 2 lovely cousins. I met Ann about a year ago in AC bar, it was her 3rd night there and I was her first BF. Her plans were to make 5 k to pay for a water hook up in the province home and then return home. For Ann the bar girl job did not turn out to be the glamours job previous province girls have painted the picture to be. She was not happy with it, Ann was only 19 yo and an 8. 3 in looks. I spent the next 3 nights with her and tipped her 5 k plus 1 k for transportation and she was on her way back home.

During this time I have seen her on a few trips to Cebu. More importantly is she has referred or to more accurately described it, brought 4 lovely cousins to me! Ages of 19 to 22. 2 new cousins and Ann just left this morning. Can you imagine 3 lovely petite girls in bed with you, doing a rotation for two days? What is funny is that one of the previous cousin is really angry and texting like hell that she didn't get an invite. Maybe I will send for her tomorrow.

I still have 2 other former AC girls coming on separate days before I leave. Both are great fucks. The one scheduled for the last two nights is soooo tight and wet that I can only last 5 minutes, 3 minutes if she CG me!

These two girls were in the same situation looking to make 5k in AC for family issues.

[QUOTE=KiwiBoy;1754235]Never read anything on steady barfines, one of my regulars has just informed me.

40 k will provide me with never needing to pay her barfine again, she explained 20 k for the bar 20 k for her, which she receives after 2 weeks.

Does any members have any knowledge on this subject?[/QUOTE]I know one guy didn't pay his bar / girlfriend steady barfine. After a year taking care of her and the family. He tried to send her back to work. The bar would no let her come back and since it was part of the dollhouse group she could not work at any of their bars. But she found work at another smaller bar on fields.

On the other hand, I know a girl that work a small bar off fields. She had a child with an Austrian her steady barfine. But after a few months she was bored at home watch the child and started working back at the bar. She said she missed her cousin and friends that worked at the bar. She told me now if she wanted to go out with a customer it was up to her since her child father was her steady barfine. This worked out great for me I put her on my team and whenever I text her to come over its almost never a problem since she is already barfined. She never really ask for money but she does eat and drink up my good snack and liquor. But it a good trade off.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1754257]
Can you imagine 3 lovely petite girls in bed with you, doing a rotation for two days? What is funny is that one of the previous cousin is really angry and texting like hell that she didn't get an invite.
.[/QUOTE]Only in the Philippines! Does this qualify as Skoggy?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1754249] And why spend 40 K on 1 hooker? I thought part of the idea was to get as many as you wanted whenever you wanted. Seems more logical to just find a normal girlfriend or cut out the middle man.[/QUOTE]Some men are silly when it comes to women.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1754257]I will do this report in AC forum as it started with AC bg's. I am in Cebu for 6 days and my dance card is pretty full without even going out to shop. How is that? As you may remember in AC I like fresh out of province girls. [/QUOTE]Grood FR. Newbs take note.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1754257]Can you imagine 3 lovely petite girls in bed with you, doing a rotation for two days? [/QUOTE]Hmmmm. I've heard of that. . .

[QUOTE=KiwiBoy;1754235]Never read anything on steady barfines, one of my regulars has just informed me.

40 k will provide me with never needing to pay her barfine again, she explained 20 k for the bar 20 k for her, which she receives after 2 weeks.

Does any members have any knowledge on this subject?[/QUOTE]Do not go for it. It is a scam cooked up by bars. Who wants a bargirl as steady GF for a year?

I have known some girls who conned some guys in doing that. They all go back to the bar and allow to be taken by anybody.

If you really love the girl take her out of the bar, get her enrolled in a college and give her education. Of course there is no guarantee she will be chaste to you but at least you have done your part to help. Just give her monthly allowance in addition to school fees. I have helped non bargirls like that. They turned out good for the most part. They show appreciation nicely.

[QUOTE=KiwiBoy;1754235]Never read anything on steady barfines, one of my regulars has just informed me.

40 k will provide me with never needing to pay her barfine again, she explained 20 k for the bar 20 k for her, which she receives after 2 weeks.

Does any members have any knowledge on this subject?[/QUOTE]No need to knock or condemn this passive income generator. I like it because it subsidizes my pussy cost. I know 2 bgs who get a promised monthly income of 25 K and they are not to BF or go out and only earn commissions on drinks. The boyfriends come to town every 3 months. Sometimes the boyfriends send less money but expect the same compliance from the bg.

Bg has monthly family comittments and obligations. The girls honor their comittments as long as the boy friends honor theirs.

I usually get a text from the girls when they don't send the full amount. One will stop at my hotel in the morning before work and the other one will stop off after her shift. Sometimes I don't hear from them for a few months.

Both girls are very nice but have family obligations to take care of. One never knew her runner parents but had a "grandmother" raising her. GM is 86 yo and needs at least 7 k a month for her. Come hell or high water she is going to take care of her. The other one has aging parents to take care of. Same with her, come hell or high water she is going to take care of them.

Now as for compensation I could just give either one P500 for the visit because it is already subsidized and they would be happy. But I choose to give them my regular posted rates. Both girls are 5' tall spinners with the tightest pussy ever. I can understand why someone would "take" them off the market!

[QUOTE=Sammon;1754546]Do not go for it. It is a scam cooked up by bars. Who wants a bargirl as steady GF for a year?

I have known some girls who conned some guys in doing that. They all go back to the bar and allow to be taken by anybody.

If you really love the girl take her out of the bar, get her enrolled in a college and give her education. Of course there is no guarantee she will be chaste to you but at least you have done your part to help. Just give her monthly allowance in addition to school fees. I have helped non bargirls like that. They turned out good for the most part. They show appreciation nicely.[/QUOTE]Great recommendation on a way to sponsor and educate someone, especially for a limited time period and fixed budget.

Better than donating to Philippine or American Red Cross in my not so humble opinion.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1754691]Great recommendation on a way to sponsor and educate someone, especially for a limited time period and fixed budget.

Better than donating to Philippine or American Red Cross in my not so humble opinion.[/QUOTE]I've never heard of the practice either, but for those who want to make a positive difference in the lives of these ladies, why not? As said above, it's surely a more effective way of donating than giving to organized charities with massive overheads and highly paid executives.

GE.

Steady / permanent bar-fine was a way for the bar to recoup recruitment costs from girls who arrived at the bar and, within a week or two, decided that they would rather skip town under the sponsorship of a love struck monger rather than getting their puss pounded by random mongers night after night between dancing long hours in high heels and choking on secondhand smoke from cheap cigarettes. Recruitment costs may include obtaining birth certificates, passage from the province, salary advances, entertainment worker identification, medical exams, uniforms, meals, housing, "fees" to the authorities, and miscellaneous expenses incurred by the mamasan to transform an impoverished country girl into a sexually appealing fuck doll. Some of the girls arrive from the province in bad shape with rotten and / or missing teeth, blemished skin, and lice ridden. At the very least they have to be deloused, taught how to shave their pussies, practice oral hygiene, and have their hair done. Mama will also need to issue them a basic cell phone with a few pesos load to keep track of them and a few hygiene essentials for overnight EWR. Steady / permanent bar fine was supposed to shift these costs from the mamasan and the bar to the monger that decided to save the girl from the bar within days of her arrival.

However, today it is nothing more than a scam. Girls can't be forced to work in the bar and they are aware of that. Many of those who find that the bar business is not what they expected simply skip town with their foreign benefactor steady bar fine be damned. Then there are the bar girls that intend to make a career out of leasing pussy. To these girls, steady bar fine is nothing more than a way of getting a year of bar fines paid in advance by the monger. It is supposed to guarantee the monger priority access to the pussy but in reality it only guarantees that the monger will out of money when the girl returns to the bar, freelances, or skips town with another monger or pinoy boyfriend. One would have to be an expat and take the girl as a live-in for a long time to run up enough mileage on her pussy in order for this long term lease to even get close to pay-per-use.

A girl that really wants to leave the bar would do so within the first or second week of her arrival. She would not demand payment to leave a job that she doesn't like when her sponsor is providing cash subsidies to keep her out of the job market. Taking on any Filipina whose main priority in life is providing for her relatives by any means necessary is always a bad idea. The foreigner will certainly get fucked over in such an arrangement. If pussy access / exclusivity remains contingent on large monthly payments the monger is better served by avoiding contractual encumbrances and high carrying costs that impede his ability to fully benefit from the free market.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;1754685]No need to knock or condemn this passive income generator. I like it because it subsidizes my pussy cost. I know 2 bgs who get a promised monthly income of 25 K and they are not to BF or go out and only earn commissions on drinks. The boyfriends come to town every 3 months. Sometimes the boyfriends send less money but expect the same compliance from the bg.

Bg has monthly family comittments and obligations. The girls honor their comittments as long as the boy friends honor theirs.[/QUOTE]So, to reserve a bargirl permanently, typical price, 40 K + 25 K per month.

[QUOTE=RedDogger;1754730]So, to reserve a bargirl permanently, typical price, 40 K + 25 K per month.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is a set number. But again I have never heard of it on the menu. If you want a permanent relationship, just become a boyfriend and come to some kind of support arrangement and have her quit her job. That number will go direct to her.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1754546]If you really love the girl take her out of the bar, get her enrolled in a college and give her education.[/QUOTE]Whoa. You are jumping the gun a bit there buddy. College? Before that most of them would need to finish elementary and high school. And by the time they did that half the punters on this board... or ISG would stand for Intergalactic Sex Guide.

[QUOTE=KiwiBoy;1754235]Never read anything on steady barfines, one of my regulars has just informed me.

40 k will provide me with never needing to pay her barfine again, she explained 20 k for the bar 20 k for her, which she receives after 2 weeks.

Does any members have any knowledge on this subject?[/QUOTE]I have done it. It depends. In my case, I want to take the girl out of Philippines for a month and half and it worked cheaper for me.

I met that girl for first time. I was not sure if I will keep that girl for long and the girl didn't know if she will end up coming back to work.

That was in Players (that bar is already closed now). Now I am steady with that girl for more than 2 years and she stopped working any way after that trip.

If you know the girl and met her for some time, and want to keep for long time in a single trip, it is better to ask them for the girl to stop working and be there with you.

It is cheep and you can work it out some thing with that girl.

If you want to start supporting the girl, don't go for steady barfine. Just ask them to stop working and you can start supporting her. No bar can enforce her to work.

But keep in mind. AC is a place to explore and steady bar fine goes against that simple fact.