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[QUOTE=Rahsta;1450591]If that was the case. Passion should of been closed down a long time ago. The bartender has been collecting the money from clients fir years.[/QUOTE]The rest of the story has yet to be told. I don't go by anything other than the facts as they are reported by CREDIBLE SOURCES.
It would be interesting if the "PLACES THAT RENT SPACE / ROOMS" to the girls are shut down
[QUOTE=Bravo;1449526]Help closed because Rio won the Olympics! Simple as that![/QUOTE]From Sosua News: "The owner (of Passions) and his assistant manager are taken into custody. It is said that this raid followed on the resent closure of 16 massage parlors. All part of the big plan to improve Sosúa for tourism."
Puerto Plata doesn't have the Olympics, but the cruise ship port just outside Puerto Plata is set to open in the coming year. ([url]http://www.carnival.com/Funville********p/227381/1185220.aspx[/url]). When it does, somewhere between 3, 000-6, 000 tourists will disembark from the ships somewhere between three to five times a week. Besides the fort, the teleferico, Ocean World and a tour of Brugal, there isn't that much to do. Cabarete has a nice beach and decent restaurants, but is almost an hour away from the dock. That leaves Sosua. Someone may be thinking that the cruise business is better in the long term than the sex-tourist business. Perhaps that all fits in well with the plan to move the beach vendors into a more tourist friendly set-up, etc. Perhaps the new cruise port is a game changer.
[QUOTE=Orgasmico; 1450623]From Sosua News: "The owner (of Passions) and his assistant manager are taken into custody. It is said that this raid followed on the resent closure of 16 massage parlors. All part of the big plan to improve Sosúa for tourism."
Puerto Plata doesn't have the Olympics, but the cruise ship port just outside Puerto Plata is set to open in the coming year. (
[url]http://www.carnival.com/Funville********p/227381/1185220.aspx[/url]
). When it does, somewhere between 3, 000-6, 000 tourists will disembark from the ships somewhere between three to five times a week. Besides the fort, the teleferico, Ocean World and a tour of Brugal, there isn't that much to do. Cabarete has a nice beach and decent restaurants, but is almost an hour away from the dock. That leaves Sosua. Someone may be thinking that the cruise business is better in the long term than the sex-tourist business. Perhaps that all fits in well with the plan to move the beach vendors into a more tourist friendly set-up, etc. Perhaps the new cruise port is a game changer.[/QUOTE]You might be onto something my friend, but I thought Maimon was getting the cruise ships?
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1450604]The Web site does not mention massage, and massage is not an item offered on the menu.
[url]http://passions-sosua.com/pwp/our-menu/[/url][/QUOTE]Your right, no more massage. Yet, a few years ago, you could choose on the menu a one hour massage with happy ending for 1300 pesos. I did it a few times and I miss it.
"Modern" economic development can spell doom for any industry including prostitution. I can see the cruise ships coming into POP denting, severely curtailing or eliminating prostitution in Sosua. As others have said with limited things to do in POP people will be driven to Sosua and Cabarete. And given that cruises are taken overwhelmingly by families and couples sooner or later the cries of "too many prostitutes in POP and Sosua so avoid that cruise" will drive the cruise lines to use their political connections inside and outside the USA to pressure the DR to end or eliminate our hobby. Think this is implausible? Take Thailand for example. Those of us who have been and lived there can tell you that Patpong, Nana and Soi Cowboy continue to get smaller and smaller in physical size. Just take a look at what those areas looked like 20 years ago-more bars, more girls. Now look at them. Reduced to only a block or so in size. And even Pattaya has built high end shopping malls (Central) and is seemingly doing things to attract more than just mongers. The Phuket sex scene is much much smaller than it was just ten years ago. And Thailand participation in ASEAN will further dent the sex trade. Look at Cambodia. It was once a haven for very very cheap working girls ($10 bucks for a girl that looked just like a Thai girl in Pattaya that wants $30). Cambodia is no longer a major monger haven as it once was. The fact of the matter is modern economic development and US pressure is changing things in the DR. The monger scene as we know it will be a memory. I have never visited nor know much about Passions but I do know that to go after a well known,"bright lights" mongering spot is a clear signal of what is to come. Clearly no one in the DR is concerned with how many mongers will cancel, will not spend money, and how many girls will have to return to their shanty as a result of Passions closing. And that is just Passions. As we all know these girls talk among each other and no doubt word has gotten around the whole island that Passions was raided and closed and as a result their is more than one girl that said to herself "I am scared to go to Sosua for fear of being arrested" (whether she worked the bars or a massage spot). So she does not go to Sosua.
This is just my opinion and time will tell but global examples of the curtailing of sex travel (under the guise of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]) do not bode well for the future of Sosua.
[QUOTE=Frannie; 1450630]There ya go!
[BLUE]The historical tour of Sosua will include a visit to the Sosua Aquarium, formerly the site of a brothel, where you can see spectacular gold fish displays, naked women swimming with sharks, and get a soothing private massage from a slim, light-skinned, depilated, young tour guide before enjoying a refreshing glass of freshly squeezed carrot juice and oatmeal, a Dominican tradition. [/BLUE][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1450508]I ought to know the answer to that but I don't. My gf pays US$200 a year but I have never been able to get any sense out of her as to what sort of visa it is. It satisfies the cops when they check her so she is happy. It doesn't seem to say anything about "work" or "study' so maybe it is just a "temporary residence" visa, although it doesn't say that either. This is a very sensitive area for Haitians as they feel very vulnerable. Also they are told all sorts of BS by Haitian and Dominican officials, the laws and interpretations are constantly changing, and most of them have limited literacy for official jargon in minute print, so everyone is confused all the time and reluctant to discuss it with blan.
I hope someone here knows more than me about "work" visas and can answer your question.
You would probably have better luck hiring a car in Israel to drive to Iran.
You might find a private person who would rent you a car but I guess you would have to put the whole (and probably inflated) value of the car up as security.[/QUOTE]You are a wealth of information.
Where does she have to go to renew it and how long does it usually take her are they ever any problems in the process
i posted this about 2 months ago. the big boys are looking for the birds in the bushes. there may be something coming that will make sosua work to enhance the cruise opportunity. often these plans turn to shit in the dr but dr is on par with the us when it comes to greed. i remember 42 st in ny 20 years ago. peep shows, sex shows and low lifes. look at it now. you never know. i say enjoy it while you can.
[quote=orgasmico; 1450623]from sosua news: "the owner (of passions) and his assistant manager are taken into custody. it is said that this raid followed on the resent closure of 16 massage parlors. all part of the big plan to improve sosúa for tourism."
puerto plata doesn't have the olympics, but the cruise ship port just outside puerto plata is set to open in the coming year. (
[url]http://www.carnival.com/funville********p/227381/1185220.aspx[/url]
). when it does, somewhere between 3, 000-6, 000 tourists will disembark from the ships somewhere between three to five times a week. besides the fort, the teleferico, ocean world and a tour of brugal, there isn't that much to do. cabarete has a nice beach and decent restaurants, but is almost an hour away from the dock. that leaves sosua. someone may be thinking that the cruise business is better in the long term than the sex-tourist business. perhaps that all fits in well with the plan to move the beach vendors into a more tourist friendly set-up, etc. perhaps the new cruise port is a game changer.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1450660]"Modern" economic development can spell doom for any industry including prostitution. I can see the cruise ships coming into POP denting, severely curtailing or eliminating prostitution in Sosua. As others have said with limited things to do in POP people will be driven to Sosua and Cabarete. And given that cruises are taken overwhelmingly by families and couples sooner or later the cries of "too many prostitutes in POP and Sosua so avoid that cruise" will drive the cruise lines to use their political connections inside and outside the USA to pressure the DR to end or eliminate our hobby. Think this is implausible? Take Thailand for example. Those of us who have been and lived there can tell you that Patpong, Nana and Soi Cowboy continue to get smaller and smaller in physical size. Just take a look at what those areas looked like 20 years ago-more bars, more girls. Now look at them. Reduced to only a block or so in size. And even Pattaya has built high end shopping malls (Central) and is seemingly doing things to attract more than just mongers. The Phuket sex scene is much much smaller than it was just ten years ago. And Thailand participation in ASEAN will further dent the sex trade. Look at Cambodia. It was once a haven for very very cheap working girls ($10 bucks for a girl that looked just like a Thai girl in Pattaya that wants $30). Cambodia is no longer a major monger haven as it once was...[/QUOTE]Good post and I agree mostly, but this is the DR and I have seen them fuck up a good thing many times.
[QUOTE=Showdown; 1450660]"Modern" economic development can spell doom for any industry including prostitution. I can see the cruise ships coming into POP denting, severely curtailing or eliminating prostitution in Sosua. As others have said with limited things to do in POP people will be driven to Sosua and Cabarete. And given that cruises are taken overwhelmingly by families and couples sooner or later the cries of "too many prostitutes in POP and Sosua so avoid that cruise" will drive the cruise lines to use their political connections inside and outside the USA to pressure the DR to end or eliminate our hobby. Think this is implausible? Take Thailand for example. Those of us who have been and lived there can tell you that Patpong, Nana and Soi Cowboy continue to get smaller and smaller in physical size. Just take a look at what those areas looked like 20 years ago-more bars, more girls. Now look at them. Reduced to only a block or so in size. And even Pattaya has built high end shopping malls (Central) and is seemingly doing things to attract more than just mongers. The Phuket sex scene is much much smaller than it was just ten years ago. And Thailand participation in ASEAN will further dent the sex trade. Look at Cambodia. It was once a haven for very very cheap working girls ($10 bucks for a girl that looked just like a Thai girl in Pattaya that wants $30). Cambodia is no longer a major monger haven as it once was. The fact of the matter is modern economic development and US pressure is changing things in the DR. The monger scene as we know it will be a memory. I have never visited nor know much about Passions but I do know that to go after a well known,"bright lights" mongering spot is a clear signal of what is to come. Clearly no one in the DR is concerned with how many mongers will cancel, will not spend money, and how many girls will have to return to their shanty as a result of Passions closing. And that is just Passions. As we all know these girls talk among each other and no doubt word has gotten around the whole island that Passions was raided and closed and as a result their is more than one girl that said to herself "I am scared to go to Sosua for fear of being arrested" (whether she worked the bars or a massage spot). So she does not go to Sosua.
This is just my opinion and time will tell but global examples of the curtailing of sex travel (under the guise of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]) do not bode well for the future of Sosua.[/QUOTE]Man people are really getting carried away because Passions closed. Read Charles Pooter post#16914, thats why Peter got locked up and Passions closed, anybody that knows the DR knows this post hit the nail on the head.
[QUOTE=Revere;1450565]Again, I said if what happened to passion owner then you could arrest all brothel owners in Santo Domingo. There is no difference in what they do. You never pay girl directly. You pay bartender. So, let's see what happens, but I would never go to a brothel or pick up a SW in the DR. No way.[/QUOTE]Dr, is full of brothels but it seems they only interested in the ones located in tourist areas. I hope Peter hired a good lawyer who can prove that his client was targeted by proving that other brothels exist throughout the country legally.
[quote=oldkool;1450665]i posted this about 2 months ago. the big boys are looking for the birds in the bushes. there may be something coming that will make sosua work to enhance the cruise opportunity. often these plans turn to shit in the dr but dr is on par with the us when it comes to greed. i remember 42 st in ny 20 years ago. peep shows, sex shows and low lifes. look at it now. you never know. i say enjoy it while you can.[/quote]good point you guys brought up. i was forgettinng that cruise ships were going to be docking in pp soon and that could definitely change many a things. if somehow blackbeards survives, i'm buying 1000 shares of bb stock lol.
[QUOTE=Doker44;1450682]Man people are really getting carried away because Passions closed. Read Charles Pooter post#16914, thats why Peter got locked up and Passions closed, anybody that knows the DR knows this post hit the nail on the head.[/QUOTE]I respect what you are saying, but I don't think it's that simple. I can name about 50 spots thru out the DR that are doing the same thing and are still rolling. This was direct and meant to send a message to one spot. Its bigger than Passions. People are blaming this on Peter getting much too comfortable and flaunting the system but I don't believe that.
[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1449252]While hanging at Rockys the other day, I witnessed a situation. The guys from Daniel Car rental brought one of their customers to Rocky to get the customer to pay them for a scooter he had rented from them. Apparentely he had made friends with some local dominican. Was letting this local hang with him. At some point he allowed the local to get close enough to trust to "borrow" the bike to allegedly go get some marijuana.
Once the local took off he hasnt been found again. Daniels car rental want $2800 to settle the matter. Hold on it gets worse. The dude was out one night and managed to have his wallet stolen. His credit card was in there. Apparently since that incident Rick and others have been lending him money. So the dude was flat broke, and in a mess over this scooter...[/QUOTE]Yes I was there when this happened as well, was talking with the well known expat who hangs out at the front of Rocky's when two unhappy looking Dominicans came in with the gringo. The expat told the gringo to go sit down in the back and wait for Rick while he called Rick the Domincans waited up front. We must of been there at the same time and were probably talking with each other. Was a real nit with stupid act by the gringo, he's very lucky he had Rick there to help him out.
Chris
I write this report during very troubling times, it seems our hobby, our recreation, our love, our passion our reason for being is under threat all over the world from Angeles City in the Philippines to Sosua in the Dominican Republic. I certainly hope the closing of La Passions is just a bump in the road and not a major change of direction for Sosua. The signs however, are troubling and give cause for concern; the desire to bring the cruise ships into Puerto Plata filled with the traditional family tourist the local officials closing down all of the massage parlors. Supposedly for not having a massage license and not for offering the sex they were offering, to now La Passions the most visual and vocal P4P venue being shut down and even the police going into D'Latin and checking everyone's identification. I see more and more tour buses and large trucks with tourist in the back coming through Sosua, the more of them there are the less of us they will want.
Airport:
The airport has had some improvements made to it, looks much nicer now, instead of one line to pay your visa tax of $10. As you enter there are now three different booths. Didn't notice any booth giving out a free glass of rum when you arrive like before, this may be a thing of the past, airport and immigration still runs pretty smooth easy to get through, taxis or your driver is still standing to the right as you exit the airport.
Hotels:
Stayed at Ricks place, Rocky's, in the budget rooms $27 a night plus $10 a night if you want air-conditioning. Good rooms for the price, basic but has wifi in room safe and of course an excellent location. Another benefit of staying at one of Ricks places is you have his assistance if anything goes wrong. Witnessed a none chica related nit with act by a monger that got himself into hock with local Dominicans and Rick was there to help the monger out.
When it comes to your hotel room and the chicas, 'it doesn't matter' what matters to the chicas is getting paid afterwards. I've stayed in luxurious places and I've stayed at the budget places and I have noticed absolutely no difference in the deminer, attitude or the service from the chicas. The place you chose to stay is more for your own personal preference and probably won't make any difference in the service you get from the chica. If you are a butterfly and interested in sampling the nectar of a verity of Sosua flowers you may want to consider a budget room, they will be fine for the purpose. If you are looking to wife up keep a chica over night or a few days or entertain guest you may want something more. Personally when I want to do this I stay at Sosua Suites, what I like about the place is, one its right in the heart of the action and two it's like having your own apartment, separate bedroom, separate kitchen, balcony.
The Strip:
The strip was alive and active every night with a lot of vibe and energy. The strip is one block long with bars on both sides of the street and this is where all of the activity, action and freelancers are at night, it begins at the corner of Dr. Rosen drive and Pedro Clisante (sp?) and runs west for about one block on Pedro Clisante. Rumba has the crowd in the mid afternoon and early evening then later in the evening the crowd moves over to D'Latin. I love that place, on a good night D'Latin can hold its own against any monger venue throughout the world. It's an open air bar / disco the place gets completely packed with chicas and mongers you can find some very attractive women there many will try to grab you as you try to squeeze by give you the look and smile, you can walk up to any chica you see and within five minutes or less of introducing yourself you are walking hand in hand back to your room for a little horizontal mambo.
Prices:
1500 pesos for short time, one to two hours and 3000 for long time, all night. These are the standard prices however, the women in Sosua are free lancers so you can bargain with them, many are able to get them for even less. On the flip side the girls will try to get more, especially if they think you are a newbie and don't know anything they will ask for much, much more, BUT DON'T PAY MORE, I had over 15 women in four days and never paid more than 1500 for short time. A few asked for 2000 at first but I counted with 1500 and all accepted right away, hold your ground and they will all accept the above rates.
Day Time Action:
Daytimes are slow there are a few girls along the strip but not many there are a few at the beach but not in droves there will be a few in the New Garden hotel as well, you can find a chica during the day and many are attractive however it is not as plentiful as at night when the strip comes alive. Prior to the crackdown you could also find chicas at the many massage parlors that used to be all over but now with the crackdown they are all closed. La Passions used to open at noon but it is now closed due to the crackdown, CMP Club opens at 1. M.
Services:
As always Great with very few acceptations have I had a bad session with a chica in the DR, it has happened but not often, BBBJ, DATY and DFK with all the girls I had and in over three years of visiting the DR I don't think I have ever had a CBJ. But, I ALWAYS interview my chicas first and let them know that I expect these services at the above prices, you never pay extra for these services.
GFE:
Yes it is still possible, I have seen where many of the Sosua vets talk about how easy it was to get a chica long term meet her family treat you like you are the love of her life and never expect a thing in return. I witnessed just that on this trip as my wingman met a none P4P chica his first night ended up spending his entire trip with her met some of her family she gave him great sex and in the end didn't ask for a thing from him.
La Passions Closing:
This is very troubling and gives one cause for concern. I was there Friday night and unfortunately that may be the last time. I usually frequented the place only once on every trip as I prefer the vibe the energy and the freelance action along the strip and almost always picked up in Rumbas or later in the night at D'Latin. But it was nice to know that La Passions was there as a backup if nothing appealed to me along the strip.
Final Thoughts:
The strip was alive and well with lots of energy excitement and vibe as always. The chicas were hot fun to be with and delivering good sex at a good price as usual. However, there are some troubling signs. The airport improvements certainly are not to impress mongers but in anticipation of increased traditional tourist. The desire to bring the cruise ships into Puerto Plata the increased number of tour buses driving through Sosua with traditional tourist. The closing of all the massage parlors, supposedly for not having a massage license and not for the sex they were actually selling, the closing of La Passions, the reason of which is still not clear, the police entering D'Latin and checking every ones identification. All these could just be coincidences, a miner irritation, or the beginning of the end to Sosua as we know and love it. Personally I'm going to choose to be an optimist. I don't believe Sosua as we know and love it will ever go away. I believe the strip the freelancers the vibe the energy the excitement will always be there, it may change and adapt but it will always exist in some form or fashion.
Chris
firstly mr pooter,
then you are not impartial like me and your views carry less weight. i hope you will be one of those supportive friends thunderstar was calling for (from the safety of rural england).
i can't believe that you know what part of england i am from and if it is rural or not, nor how safe an area i live in?
so. it's interesting that you pass comment on things you just don't know about.
but hey. we all do that on these type of boards.
as i said on another board, i think it's sad that so many people are "sticking the knife in" when peters situation is so difficult for him.
there are loads of laws that are not enforced in all countries in the world, however this week the dr has just picked on a large "spa" run by a gringo for at least 9 years and thrown him in jail. as so many in the sosua forums on all boards have partied in his place over the years, i personally find that a little disingenuous.
am i a friend of peters? well, ish, a few messages on fb every now and then and a few social drinks outside of his bar, i've even given him a lift once! but. real friends. not really.
am i glad like so many others appear to be that he is "fucked" right now? no. even though i and my wife haven't "partied" in his place for a few years we will always stop in for a drink or two and to say hi.
morally. in that town, his business has to be one of the best when it comes to sex. it's off the street, in a clean smart environment. yes it's run with an iron fist, but i can't imagine you can run a successful business any other way in that town.
morally. unless things have drastically changed in the last few months and **** girls or drugs have been introduced (which i can't believe for a moment. why would you risk all of that for a few extra $$$?) then peter is in the right.
now legally. that maybe a different matter.
as another poster said, i'm sure there are more twists and turns to come in this story.