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[QUOTE=KirkLazarus;1691856]Sirioja, is this post about your experience at Oase or Samya. I'm a little confused. This Rafaella you talk about, did you meet her at Samya or Oase? I Met a Rafaella at Samya this past Friday. Here is my description of her. Is this the same one you are talking about?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2597-FKK-Samya-Cologne&p=1691073&viewfull=1#post1691073[/URL][/QUOTE]I met your Rafaella this Sunday evening in Samya, she was Juliana in Magnum for 7 months and will be Juliana in Oase next week, she already worked a few days in Oase 2 or 3 weeks ago, at the beginning she will have big success in Oase due to her pretty look and her services not exceptional but at same level as many girls in Oase, but better services for Valentina in Samya.
Juliana / ex Rafaella has a few small tattoos on shoulder, left arm and leg, she has very large sex lips compare to her body.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1691308]Some clubs have rule against meeting outside, but I still managed to get some girls to agree a date. Yet, she needs to make excuse for absent, leave alone, and meet me somewhere. When people are concerning being caught, date is not that fun any more, even thought the trouble is not mine.
In oase, I know it's ok, I've done couples of times.[/QUOTE]In Oase, there is a rule about picking up a girl from the parking lot (except at closing of course). The girl could have problems with Mauro if security tells Mauro that a customer picked her up in the parking lot (security has camera views of the entire parking). So if you pick up a girl to take her out, it must be outside of the camera view of the parking. The best thing is for her to take a taxi off-site, like to your nearby hotel for example, and then, continue your adventure from there. When you bring her back to the club, it is best to drop her off in the street, just outside the parking, so she can walk back into the parking so that security won't see a recognizable customer dropping her off.
Also, it probably makes sense to avoid posting on this particular thread when an Oase girl is rumored to be temporarily working at another club as this might cause her problems when she tries to return to Oase.
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FKK's reports
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1691795]The topic of being "known" as an Internet poster intrigues me. HB has posted it is a bad thing. BB has posted that is not even good to be associated or seen sitting with a known Internet poster. So if it is that bad and the repercussions were so horrible why do guys like Syzygies take the unnecessary risks and continue to post? I mean I do notice that Syzygies generally tries not to be overly negative. Perhaps that is Syzygies way of mitigating risks and avoiding uncomfortable confrontations in the club?
On the other language forums, guys post all kind of details. They will replay conversations they had with the girls and quote certain things that the girls said to them. They post the times of the days that they sessioned with each girl. And they will post the field reports sometimes hours after sessioning with the WG. Are these people just that stupid that they do not realize they are being ostracized by the girls and the club management? Or is the real reason, that there are no negative repercussions? Perhaps these Internet posters are even using their status as a Stammgast and Internet posters to get free things? Like a free-session from a girl? Maybe an upgrade to bareback from the girl? Or a free entry from management? Maybe one club is even paying the Internet poster to be a cheerleader? Or paying the Internet poster to say negative things about a rival club?..[/QUOTE]Dear gentlemen,
First of all I must say that I don't live in Germany but I've been frequenting the FKK clubs scene in Hessen's area over the past five years (minimum 4 times a year, averaging 7 days per trip).
After reading the last reports involving distorted / anomalous / or directly fake experiences with girls, let me allow some clarification topics based on my humble experience:
1) It can happen I know, but I think lower the probability that some users with vast experience and many well written reports need to promote events / experiences with girls opposite to the truth, with intent to obtain some benefit by a club or the girls themselves. This asseveration doesn't pretends to be a defense of any of the users because I do not know anyone at all.
2) When I read questions or comments about sharkness behavior of some of the girls in different clubs, I don't stop to amaze myself, it's logical in that context that 20 years old girls 20 working in the sex industry try to get as much money as possible by offering all possible extras to mature men who -in their majority- is 40 years old or more, because of that I find illogical that those same mature men (no kids at FKK's) are not able to rationally manage this paradise offering sex develop by beautiful girls and talk about scams or sharkness behavior (when it's very simply to reject with education and pass to following girl, accept or negotiate).
3) Talking about negotiation field, every time I read questions about whether this or that girl does DFK, OWO, CIM, swallow, rimming, anal sex, bareback sex, etc, I think if you really are serious or just want to confront Other members who are able obtain such extras and then compare later. In this world of naked girls offering sex for money and willing to spend adult men's money, anything is possible.
4) Based on my own experience in big clubs like World / Oase / Palace / Sharks, if you pay the appropriate amount you can get almost everything you want, like: DFK and owo (95% of girls they will do, only in Palace many girls will be ask Extra 50 euros for kissing, others included in 1 hour's session), CIM (90% of the girls, 50 extra euros), CIM + swallow (70%, 100/200 euros extra), rimming (70%, 50/200 euros extra, some of them included it in 1 hour's session combined with other extras), anal (70%, 100 euros extra), bareback sex (60%, some offer it in the middle of a session and other ones are well prepared to listen offers, 50/800 euros extra), book an overnight at your hotel with full GFE (600/1000 euros extra).
5) I repeat that these conclusions are based on my own personal experience, I am a friendly normal guy, just that.
Best regards,
TD
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[QUOTE=Beffen1;1691804]Hi Dufey,
Is it really true, playful hottie Laura / Livia was at work at Oase this weekend per your recent report?
Beffen- big time Laura fan.[/QUOTE]No his report was retrospective. Some regular of hers will possibly know a story, but who has the true low down?
Livia and Marta went together as usual.
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[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1691873]In Oase, there is a rule about picking up a girl from the parking lot (except at closing of course). The girl could have problems with Mauro if security tells Mauro that a customer picked her up in the parking lot (security has camera views of the entire parking). So if you pick up a girl to take her out, it must be outside of the camera view of the parking. The best thing is for her to take a taxi off-site, like to your nearby hotel for example, and then, continue your adventure from there. When you bring her back to the club, it is best to drop her off in the street, just outside the parking, so she can walk back into the parking so that security won't see a recognizable customer dropping her off.
Also, it probably makes sense to avoid posting on this particular thread when an Oase girl is rumored to be temporarily working at another club as this might cause her problems when she tries to return to Oase.[/QUOTE]Yes, I didn't considere this, but to minimum all the possible inconveniences, we met at hotel or restaurant, I didn't go to club to pick up or drop off, I pay for the taxi.
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[QUOTE=Dufey;1691534]The girls seem to be complaining more than ever there is no business. One girl says she made just 200 euro on Friday since she was new and then just 50 euro on Saturday and she worked a really long day in the club. Then from this money they pay maybe 95 euro to the club for entry and taxes and maybe more if they stay in the club.[/QUOTE]Entry for girls in Oase is 100,80 in World from Sunday to Wednesday and 95 from Thursday to Saturday.
Most of girls even pretty like Sabina / Ramona, Beatrice, blond Cristina, brunettes Maya, Carla and Laura with socks, Roxana were not busy at all on Friday or Saturday, Elizabet. Hubusier and Lexi the busiest.
And I confirm a new girl said me at 1 am Saturday night, she had done only 50€ meetings and with mine, she had made 200€ for a Saturday and beginning at 14 h.
If you could give date for your visits because girls change each week.
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Dufey;1691534]The girls seem to be complaining more than ever there is no business. One girl says she made just 200 euro on Friday since she was new and then just 50 euro on Saturday and she worked a really long day in the club. Then from this money they pay maybe 95 euro to the club for entry and taxes and maybe more if they stay in the club.[/QUOTE]Sleep in club costs 20 euros a day, I've seen pics, something like the hostel, not too bad.
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1691795]The topic of being "known" as an Internet poster intrigues me. HB has posted it is a bad thing. BB has posted that is not even good to be associated or seen sitting with a known Internet poster. So if it is that bad and the repercussions were so horrible why do guys like Syzygies take the unnecessary risks and continue to post? I mean I do notice that Syzygies generally tries not to be overly negative. Perhaps that is Syzygies way of mitigating risks and avoiding uncomfortable confrontations in the club?
On the other language forums, guys post all kind of details. They will replay conversations they had with the girls and quote certain things that the girls said to them. They post the times of the days that they sessioned with each girl. And they will post the field reports sometimes hours after sessioning with the WG. Are these people just that stupid that they do not realize they are being ostracized by the girls and the club management? Or is the real reason, that there are no negative repercussions? Perhaps these Internet posters are even using their status as a Stammgast and Internet posters to get free things? Like a free-session from a girl? Maybe an upgrade to bareback from the girl? Or a free entry from management? Maybe one club is even paying the Internet poster to be a cheerleader? Or paying the Internet poster to say negative things about a rival club?
Not saying Syzygies or any other high-status poster is doing any of this or that this even happens at all. Just a curiousity. Just me thinking out loud. I mean I know Syzygies nature is to be helpful and he probably doesn't have any other motives, but if there were negative consequences like some pimp threatening him, surely he would have stopped by now.
My apologies for going way off-topic.[/QUOTE]McA,
I don't have any problems with Management, pimps etc. I stay away from them. I have few problems with girls because I don't write bullshit.
Few girls are angry with me. Some have asked me not to write any more details about them, but will still session with me since I gave them some good publicity and nothing vindictive or nasty.
Some girls don't want to go with me. Perhaps scared of a less than glowing report to follow. However one really terrible session I did not report at all. I just accept we had a clash of styles and personalities. She wanted to dominate and I did not want to be dominated.
It is a disadvantage to be known. Biggest concern is what other forum members will do such as reporting your posts to girls or making trouble in other ways. Syz wrote this and Syz wrote that. If give less info about sessions these days keeping it brief. I don't write much about girls I have written a lot about before. I will write about a new girl tried, something but lacking detail these days.
I think girls know I am a pretty harmless type, many will have heard rumours about me. Some girls have been apprehensive at first for what reason I don't know, and later admit the session was better than they expected. Often rumours get grossly exaggerated for sure.
Relatively few girls deny me a session and some where it previously did not work at all well for us seem to want to try again. Its possible a girl can be difficult when she had a pussy pain or problem and be performing not to her normal standard. If a girl seems resistant in any way I lose hard on very quickly and the session becomes a flop. Fortunately its not too often I get the stiff legged girls. I have to get girls that seem able to have a good time or it just doesn't work.
Pussy obstructions are a session killer too for me. Have to avoid some girls who habitually stuff something about 4 inches down. It really makes a big difference to me. I like loose pussy. LOL.
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Pussy obstructions are a session killer too for me. Have to avoid some girls who habitually stuff something about 4 inches down. It really makes a big difference to me. I like loose pussy. LOL.[/QUOTE]Excuse me for this stupid question: but what is pussy obstructions? Pussy too tide? Or something in pussy?
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1691780]Uncharacteristic of you to post something so specific. You've said before that you never think it is a good idea to be identified as an Internet poster. But if Laura read this, haven't you just significantly increased the chances of her identifying you? Perhaps Laura knows that she only communicated her whereabouts to 3-4 customers. This means she's narrowed you down. That or you are selective about who knows you are. In other words, you don't care if Laura can identify you. You could have just as easily said you heard from a "reliable source that she is in Romania". That allows you to be helpful to ISGers without revealing too much.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't have posted that if I wasn't quite sure that she has told that to quite a few customers, not only me. I won't post HOW and WHEN she told me, that's is non-detailed enough for me. I still believe it's not good to be identified as an Internet poster.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;1691796]Or maybe HB is Laura's fish? [/QUOTE]You caught me. Actually she's on a break to count and launder the money she made.
[QUOTE=McAdonis]On the other language forums, guys post all kind of details.
Perhaps these Internet posters are even using their status as a Stammgast and Internet posters to get free things? Like a free-session from a girl? Maybe an upgrade to bareback from the girl? Or a free entry from management? Maybe one club is even paying the Internet poster to be a cheerleader? Or paying the Internet poster to say negative things about a rival club? [/QUOTE]Some of that may happen if the board is financed by advertising. There's boards that are not, they are independent, no reason to push a club or a girl. If a poster is suspected to push a girl or location he will be banned. There may be stupid assholes trying to put pressure on girls by telling them they will write a negative review if she doesn't do this or that. There's so many detailed posts about girls that the individual poster is hard to identify, I am quite confident about this after over 10 years on various boards.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1692042]Excuse me for this stupid question: but what is pussy obstructions? Pussy too tide? Or something in pussy?[/QUOTE]Girls who do not allow full penetration.
HB.
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[QUOTE=Faceless78;1692042]Excuse me for this stupid question: but what is pussy obstructions? Pussy too tide? Or something in pussy?[/QUOTE]I meant something stuffed in pussy during period or for some girls all the time. Even girls don't believe that it happens except during period. Some girls do not believe that others work without gel too.
Strangely some girls allow fingers even though fingers can find the obstruction. Girl imagines its beyond finger easy reach I guess.
Ever been doing doggy and dick just doesn't seem to go beyond about 4 inches or cannot slide smoothly?
X porn star girls stuff pussy to prevent full penetration and to make the dick look longer than it really is since it only goes half way in. Better for the movie visuals but not better for the feeling.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1692061]I meant something stuffed in pussy during period or for some girls all the time. Even girls don't believe that it happens except during period. Some girls do not believe that others work without gel too.
Strangely some girls allow fingers even though fingers can find the obstruction. Girl imagines its beyond finger easy reach I guess.
Ever been doing doggy and dick just doesn't seem to go beyond about 4 inches or cannot slide smoothly?
X porn star girls stuff pussy to prevent full penetration and to make the dick look longer than it really is since it only goes half way in. Better for the movie visuals but not better for the feeling.[/QUOTE]Since you mentioned, I recall one time I felt something during doggy, I asked, but she said nothing; maybe you are right.
About girls without gels, I've heard but never met, are they get wet or just with the limited gel on condoms?
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[QUOTE=McAdonis;1691796]Or maybe HB is Laura's fish? And he is concerned that Oase management will catch wind of the rumors that Laura has been spotted at World!! So he is creating a second rumor.[/QUOTE]What is important, for my opinion, is Laura not working at the moment, this last week end, in Oase, then she does what she wants, I might mistake to write more, girls don't always say the truth and it's Laura business.
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[QUOTE=HessenBub;1692044]Wouldn't have posted that if I wasn't quite sure that she has told that to quite a few customers, not only me. I won't post HOW and WHEN she told me, that's is non-detailed enough for me.[/QUOTE]Figured you had thought ahead before posting something like that, but was just making sure. Wouldn't want you to discard your handle and go into hiding! I would assume "when" would have been within the last week, and "how" would be by facebook since that is the medium nowadays to spread information to many people. And it would give you the assurance that there was more than one person receiving the news.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1692044]There may be stupid assholes trying to put pressure on girls by telling them they will write a negative review if she doesn't do this or that.
[/QUOTE]Threats probably wouldn't work. And the WG could respond by being confrontational. I am not an expert on sexual harassment cases, but I assume that most male bosses do not threaten their female employees with termination. Instead, they probably reinforce the positive aspects of what an alliance would entail. This creates a "win-win" scenario. The boss would subtly hint at what kind of doors might open up for the employee, and who they might be introduced to, etc. The male boss may not even mention sex, but rather hint to her that it is a good idea to be associated with him. He does not have to say "I am important" or "I made 30 million EUR last year". He could accomplish the same by dropping names of famous, rich or important people he is friends with, mentioning the exotic places he goes, the dollar amounts of the business deals he closes etc. Women pick up on hints because they are wired to associate themselves with people that can do something for them. It is the reality of male-dominated societies.
In other words, it would probably be smarter for the monger to dangle a carrot of a positive review during pre-zimmer. If she does not take the bait, no negative repercussions, he just moves on. In Syzygies case, it doesn't not need to be explicitly stated or hinted. They already know his habit to always writes positive reviews if the girl meets his expectations.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;1692044]
There's so many detailed posts about girls that the individual poster is hard to identify, I am quite confident about this after over 10 years on various boards.
[/QUOTE]Not that many detailed reports from what I can see. The Dutch forum groups their threads by the girls name. Most threads have between 5-25 replies. So the girl maybe averages 6 reviews per year. Only about ten percent of those reports are detailed and posted the very next day. These girls have amazing memories. Girls remember the highest payment I ever gave them. Girls remember something I joked about from a previous visit. Girls know how often that I have sessioned with them. Girls remember stories I've told them. I am referring to girls I see maybe four times a year and sessioned with once. Perhaps I am just extremely unique in how I look, behave, and spend-making me easy to remember, but I doubt it.