Sosua Reports

Let me just jump in here.

Dominican visas for Haitians living in the North Coast are most easily obtained at the Dominican consulate in Ouanaminthe.

Get there early, around 9 am, present passport, application, fee and you should receive everything back around 2 pm in the afternoon.

In time to cross-back into the DR before the border crossing closes at 4 pm.

I did it about two years ago with my then girlfriend in tow. We left Sosua at 5 am (public, guagua) , crossed into Haiti around 11 am, stayed the night, presented everything to the consulate and were ready to go in the afternoon.

There are also Haitians who will do all the leg work for a fee. You send them the paper work and money by Caribe Express, they submit everything and return passport with visa a few days later. These guys are very reliable and can save you the time and expense of physically having to travel.

[QUOTE=Grub1; 1450663]You are a wealth of information.

Where does she have to go to renew it and how long does it usually take her are they ever any problems in the process[/QUOTE]

Cruise ships arrive in the am and are long gone by dark. The tourists don't rent hotel rooms, or partake of nightlife. Cruises are mostly in the winter time. This is the slow season.

There are legal brothels in st martin. When the ships come in, the girls are busy during the day. When no ship in port, day are slow, and they rely on locals and vacationers at night.

They may be trying to clean up the beach area to attrack the family tourists by day. Move the action off the streets, into the clubs, at night. Wht passions was hit is a mystery. No real change in how they were doing business. Not in the tourist area. Off the beaten path.

Tropical storm dorian brewing in the area. Looks like its going to pass right north of the island next week. Effects of the storm tracking over the entire island. I'm scheduled to arrive Monday. Considering rebooking for the next wk. Any thoughts?

Passions was disgusting. Good Riddance to it and anything like it.

[QUOTE=Mr Gogo;1450707]I respect what you are saying, but I don't think it's that simple. I can name about 50 spots thru out the DR that are doing the same thing and are still rolling. This was direct and meant to send a message to one spot. Its bigger than Passions. People are blaming this on Peter getting much too comfortable and flaunting the system but I don't believe that.[/QUOTE]Mr. Pooter's theory that Peter brought this on by a display of conspicuous consumption may be right. I don't know Peter, have never met him, and have no opinion on the matter, though I concede that this may have contributed to making Passion's a target, but I brought the board's attention to this article some weeks ago in which the attorney general stated an intention to wipe out commercial prostitution networks and actually made mention of ongoing operations in Sosua among other places.

Application of Occam's razor might be the best policy.

[url]http://www.diariolibre.com/dlenglish/2013/05/20/i384476_are-going-put-end-networks-prostitution.html[/url]

Gogo. Can you list the other 50 spots doing the same thing in the DR? Had no idea there were so many places operating on similar lines.

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[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1450200]But I would not rule out a Houdini escape from the situation. Nothing in this topsy-turvy country surprises me.[/QUOTE]Strong rumors from normally sensible people that Passions will be open again by the weekend.

But no news specifically of Peter and Mariela.

For all I know Passions may be dispensing with the chicas and alcohol and just be selling natural fruit juice and vegetarian burgers.

So long as they get rid of their deafening music and free the goldfish I could live with that.

[QUOTE=Revere;1450877]Gogo, explain more. What do you think is happening. I want you to share your thoughts of what is happening.[/QUOTE]Is it a coincidence that the vendors being moved out from the beach for remodeling also at the same time as arguably the biggest supplier if chicas in Sosua is arrested? With the beach closed its the perfect time to reinvent a new Sosua. I have to be careful here; but look who has purchased the big super market on the main highway (by out bidding several prominent Dominicans) , look who has been quietly buying up big parcels of real estate? Sosua is in transition. Will it work? I don't know.

[quote=frannie; 1450874]mr. pooter's theory that peter brought this on by a display of conspicuous consumption may be right. i don't know peter, have never met him, and have no opinion on the matter, though i concede that this may have contributed to making passion's a target, but i brought the board's attention to this article some weeks ago in which the attorney general stated an intention to wipe out commercial prostitution networks and actually made mention of ongoing operations in sosua among other places.

application of occam's razor might be the best policy.

[url]http://www.diariolibre.com/dlenglish/2013/05/20/i384476_are-going-put-end-networks-prostitution.html[/url]

gogo. can you list the other 50 spots doing the same thing in the dr? had no idea there were so many places operating on similar lines.[/quote]frannie, i read your link the guy sounds serious, but he said he wants to clean up sousa and especially, boca chica. boca chica is terrible. it reminds me of place that has seen better days. no tourists is visiting that spot for a nice relaxing and fun vacation. i do not know what he will clean up speedos. just joking, but i go sometimes on sundays when i am there, but it just is not that nice of place to spend a lot of time there. some of these places like boca chica with no sex tourism they will have very limited revenue opportunities. no nice resorts will pop up in boca chica crackdown or not. maybe he hopes more paying locals vacation in boca chica i do not get it.

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[quote=oldkool;1450665]i posted this about 2 months ago. the big boys are looking for the birds in the bushes. there may be something coming that will make sosua work to enhance the cruise opportunity. often these plans turn to shit in the dr but dr is on par with the us when it comes to greed. i remember 42 st in ny 20 years ago. peep shows, sex shows and low lifes. look at it now. you never know. i say enjoy it while you can.[/quote]this makes sense. the puerto plata area needs to enhance its image for the lucrative cruise ships.

guess what. obvious brothels are not good for big spending tourists. clearly they outspend budget mongering tourists (me included). respect dr's gov push which in my idealistic mind means more jobs for the locals.

there are plenty of other spots for budget mongering with hot young chicas.

I asked a dominican contact what he knows about what going on. This is his statement :

"This is all politics they say that they found drugs, minors and 32 girls held against their will. We all know that these are all lies.

Peter and his wife are the owners and they are both still in jail.

Everyone here is quite upset about this because Passions is one of the most organized business of it's kind in the country.

Everyone here is waiting to see what happens".

I am sure peter is no a saint but I also doubt he is forcing any of these girls into the sex trade. It is greedy Dominicans who horde the national wealth and create an enviroment where young girls selling their bodies is necessary. Almost everyone of those girls was on the street the next night selling pussy at DLatins, I personally depise pimps. However Peter provided structure to many of these girls lives and gave them a better enviroment to practice their trade. Dominican men have a reputation of not treating their women very well and have created a country where many of their daughters have to sell pussy to survive. You are blaming the wrong people.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1450890]Typical white man apologist showing no consideration for the home country. Its all about me getting sex. Forget everybody else.[/QUOTE]

If you have been in DR or Reading the forum the last few months the Haitian raids nor Passions being shut down comes as no surprise; Especially viewing what was said before, during and after the elections, the minister of justices comments, the head of the national polices comments and upcoming opening of the cruise ship ports. Not to mention Peter being a complete dick having Haters all throughout the Dominican political structure.

It's pretty simple for high visible areas, public brothels are 100% illegal. It doesn't matter what happens in the non tourist sections they don't want it in full view of tourist. Those mentioning anything about that not being fair are Naive and intellectually dishonest. The job of prosecutor by its very nature is a political process viewing limited resources.

What's been said overtly is: Any third party that takes a dime from the transaction of prostitution will be prosecuted as well as an expansion of pandering to include johns. All in the name if stamping out [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]. As well as DR increased activity as a major drug hub for the Caribbean. Some argue with me but DR is filled with an alphabet soup of foreign agencies funding and assisting the clean up.

[QUOTE=Ath Trainer;1450834]Tropical storm dorian brewing in the area. Looks like its going to pass right north of the island next week. Effects of the storm tracking over the entire island. I'm scheduled to arrive Monday. Considering rebooking for the next wk. Any thoughts?[/QUOTE]You are just going to have to go with your gut tells you. You could very well get stuck at the airport before you even get to the DR (the airline is not going to put their aircraft and passengers in potential danger).