Giddy-up...until the wheels fall off, but the FACTS remain the FACTS...
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2982759]1. EV's are not [I]zero emission[/I]!
2. The long term impact is determined by the quality of inputs into the grid the EV is charging on!
3. When people in the United States of America choose their vehicle the make the decision based on practical reasons!.
[URL]https://www.npr.org/2024/09/23/nx-s1-5074064/ev-gas-cars-environment-skepticism[/URL] [/QUOTE]
[b][1.][/b] EVs have NO tail pipe emissions, emitting noxious gases...so you do the math!
Now, if you're talking about materials that go into making EVs vs. ICE, then that's a different argument, but one that still has EVs no worse off then ICE vehicles, and in same cases better than ICE, as even more battery recycling business are ramping up. But the good news is, that EV batteries are lasting far longer then expected.
[b][2.][/b] Agreed! But in the long term, EVs will be seen as benefiting, the long term growth and stability of the all electricity grids, around the world. Just consider them as a fleet of mobile power sources!
With many countries moving towards boosting their grids reliability with EVs batteries as a power source, assisting the grid, in peek and down times, with V2G, V2H and V2L, will only serve to make a more robust grid. Some of today's EVs currently have these capabilities.
BTW, let's see if ICE vehicles can run your homes for several days in a brownout, blackout, or ice storm. [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Especially in the light of more and more greedy GWh gobbling Zuckerberg data centers and crypto/bitcoin mining farms show up, to place even more demands on the a failing grid.
Not to mention the 150+ GWh of new BESS around the world helping the grid. BESS will be pivotal part of that clean energy grid solution. China, Australia and the U.S. (Cali, Texas) are major players and many making major coin ($$$$) from BESS arbitrage.
[b][3.][/b] I just finishing telling Sirioja, the very same thing. But quite honestly, you only need to look to China so see what coming!
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2982759][B]I am convinced that EVs help the environment[/B] But in the [U]United Staes of America[/U] I am NOT interested in buying one ...[/QUOTE]
Again, like I told Sirioja, you can giddy-up, ride, drive or dirt race what ever vehicle your heart desires...until the wheels fall off. I don't really care! I prefer to debate the facts, the trends and future surrounding the these crucial industries and the impact they have on our eco-geo-socio political community.
I'm just here to providing some positive FACTS, data and automotive trends, to the other side of the "negative biases" towards EV, battery tech and clean energy and at the same time debunk and refute, things like Sirioja's nonsense on E85, EVs and battery rhetoric and disinformation.
If a fact can be debated then it is not a fact
Are you interested in debating if gravity exists with me? Because if you are I will tell you to hold an egg in your hand, stretch your arm out and then drop the egg. Tell me about the results. Look I do not mind discussing the facts. But I don't let the facts get in the way of a personal decision I am going to make based on what I want. With that understood.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2983007][b]1.[/b] EVs have NO tail pipe emissions, emitting noxious gases...so you do the math![/QUOTE]I stand by my original statement.
[QUOTE]Electric vehicles have no tailpipe emissions, which is why they are called "zero-emission vehicles." But they are not entirely zero-emission: Pollution and other environmental costs are associated with building them and charging their batteries.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Spidy;2983007]Now, if you're talking about materials that go into making EVs vs. ICE, then that's a different argument, but one that still has EVs no worse off then ICE vehicles, and in same cases better than ICE, as even more battery recycling business are ramping up. But the good news is, that EV batteries are lasting far longer than expected.[/QUOTE]I will stipulate to this statement.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2983007][b]2.[/b] Agreed! But in the long term, EVs will be seen as benefiting, the long term growth and stability of the all electricity grids, around the world. Just consider them as a fleet of mobile power sources![/QUOTE]This is not a fact this is an opinion. A EV being charged on a an electric grid with coal fired plant is very different from a EV being charged on a let's say a Solar Power grid. In the Dominican Republic I will look at the opportunity to build a charging station at my business location using solar panels. Direct charging during the day and via batteries at night.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2983007]With many countries moving towards boosting their grids reliability with EVs batteries as a power source, assisting the grid, in peek and down times, with V2G, V2H and V2L, will only serve to make a more robust grid. Some of today's EVs currently have these capabilities.[/QUOTE]Has nothing to do with pollution now does it?
[QUOTE=Spidy;2983007]BTW, let's see if ICE vehicles can run your homes for several days in a brownout, blackout, or ice storm. [i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] Especially in the light of more and more greedy GWh gobbling Zuckerberg data centers and crypto/bitcoin mining farms show up, to place even more demands on the a failing grid..[/QUOTE]Has nothing to do with pollution now does it?
[QUOTE=Spidy;2983007]Not to mention the 150+ GWh of new BESS around the world helping the grid. BESS will be pivotal part of that clean energy grid solution. China, Australia and the U.S. (Cali, Texas) are major players and many making major coin ($$$$) from BESS arbitrage.[/QUOTE]Has nothing to do with pollution now does it?
[QUOTE=Spidy;2983007][b]3.[/b] I just finishing telling Sirioja, the very same thing. But quite honestly, you only need to look to China so see what coming![/QUOTE]The error in your logic is the the facts will determine market decisions. Only the individuals who are making the market decisions will determine what happens in the market.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2983007]Again, like I told Sirioja, you can giddy-up, ride, drive or dirt race what ever vehicle your heart desires...until the wheels fall off. I don't really care! I prefer to debate the facts, the trends and future surrounding the these crucial industries and the impact they have on our eco-geo-socio political community.[/QUOTE]This makes no sense brother. Facts are not up for debate.
[QUOTE=Spidy;2983007]I'm just here to providing some positive FACTS, data and automotive trends, to the other side of the "negative biases" towards EV, battery tech and clean energy and at the same time debunk and refute, things like Sirioja's nonsense on E85, EVs and battery rhetoric and disinformation.[/QUOTE]It is not a negative bias to say I prefer fucking the pussy of a girl over fucking the ass of a man. It is personal preference. Can we at least agree on that? A gay man will disagree with me. I am not going to try to argue that pussy is better than ass (of a man) when he is obviously making his fucking decisions based on personal preference.
[B]I remain convinced that EVs help the environment[/B] But so could a lot of other things also. Like Nuclear Power. Or we could walk everywhere. That would also help with the obesity epidemic in the United States of America. But if EV were so great then why did the market place incentives via tax credits to help them make inroads into the market. No one had to give me tax credit for me to my a iPhone or a ICE vehicle.
[B]ROTFLMAO![/B]
Does America really want a Madam President? Or just on TV?
[QUOTE=SubCmdr=2982360]Democrats better stop engaging in Dick Politics and find a candidate for the people. I like AOC! [/QUOTE]
[i][b](...kkkk!)[/b][/i] C'mon man! As much as AOC may indeed by a very good candidate, you do realize, that's twice (2x) now, that Dems have come up empty, with what were also great women candidates, IMHO, and were ceremoniously rejected by Americans. Against the worst candidate in presidential U.S. History, in the Repub MAGA Orange Fuhrer.
So I think, Dems have learnt their lesson, at least for the next foreseeable future, when it comes to electing a women candidate.
But let's just say, shall we...that [b]if America TRULY wants a women President,[/b] in their future, personally I'm leaving it up to the Repubs, to move past their misogyny and their lip service on DEI and equality for women and elect one of their own.
So as far as I'm concerned, it maybe up to the Repubs, as the only other way you'll get your Madam President, maybe watching her on TV drams shows like, The Diplomat!
That might be the dumbest thing anyone has said about it
[QUOTE=Tiny12;2983020]Well this takes the cake. Giving all the credit to Obama for a solid economy in 2017 to 2019 was kind of crazy. As was assigning all the blame to Trump for a suck ass economy during a worldwide pandemic. But now January, 2025 inflation was Trump's fault?
Prices as measured by the CPI rose 3% from a year ago. "A year ago" means 365 days ago. Trump was president for 11 days before January 31,2025. He wasn't even president at mid January. You're criticizing Biden, not Trump.
Trump's tariffs will indeed cause a step up in prices of some products. But they hadn't taken effect as of the end of January. If he manages to lower federal spending that will restrain inflation..[/QUOTE]I assume you at least scanned the link I provided. And perhaps heard about this thingy called Google where you can do a search on the topic and find dozens of other such reports.
Shipping prices have been increasing since at least late November. The SHIPPERS are explaining that the reason shipping costs have been increasing is because Trump has been blathering about his 25%, 100% or 200% Tariffs coming any minute now starting on Day One of his so-called presidency and SINCE the November election. Shipments of goods are done PRIOR to when they show up on store shelves. Often several weeks, even months prior.
The competition and demand for even earlier shipments in order to "get ahead of the game", Trump's Tariffs, is called front-loading and it generates greater demand for everything related to the shipping of goods. Greater demand for shipping containers and shipments of goods triggers higher shipping costs.
Those costs have been passed along to the American Consumer in the form of higher prices for the products.
None of this "waits" for Trump to officially impose the Tariffs. Oh, then for him to cave and change his mind about it. Oh, then for him to change his mind about changing his mind. Oh, then for him to impose a tariff but not as big of one as he stated yesterday. Oh, then for him to decide a bigger tariff would be better. Oh, then for him to go play golf and think about it some more.
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President Musk finally struck Repub gold!
This must have been what President Musk and his Hitler Youth Hackers were aiming for:
[B]Fired Nuclear Bomb Specialists Recalled by Energy Department.
About 300-400 workers tied to nuclear programs were dismissed.
Agency seeks to bring back workers after chaotic terminations.
Feb. 15, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-14/dismissed-nuclear-bomb-specialists-recalled-by-energy-department[/URL]
[QUOTE]The agencys quick reversal was announced Friday in an all-staff meeting. [B]The NNSA is seeking to recall the workers because they deal with sensitive national security secrets[/b], according to the people, who werent authorized to talk about the matter, which is not public.
Those cuts are especially concerning because [b]the positions typically require high-level security clearances and training that can take 18 months or longer[/b], said Jill Hruby, who served as the NNSA administrator during the Biden administration.
[B]"These people are likely never going to come back and work for the government,[/b] Hruby said in a phone interview. Weve had a very active program requiring an increase to our staff so the indiscriminate layoffs of people will be really difficult for the coming years.
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[B]The agency also plays a role a key role in counter-terrorism, transporting nuclear weapons around the country and responding to nuclear incidents around the world. Recent focuses have included examining how AI can be used to make it potentially easer for people to make nuclear bombs[/b], Hruby said.
"These are areas where weve been concerned and staffed up to respond to that, Hruby said. These are working with high skill-levels that are willing to work around- the-clock if needed.
Among the deepest cuts was to the Energy Departments Office of Clean Energy Demonstrations, where roughly 25% of its staff was eliminated, according to a breakdown of the cuts seen by Bloomberg News. That office received some $27 billion in funding from the Inflation Reduction Act, [b]as well as bipartisan infrastructure law[/b], to finance carbon capture, hydrogen and advanced nuclear projects. Among its priorities is managing an $8 billion plan to establish a network of hydrogen hubs throughout the US.
[B]"This program helps bring competitive manufacturing back to American shores, so weakening it is only going to help foreign competitors,[/b] said Steven Nadel, executive director of the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy, a nonprofit group that advocated for the funding.
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In addition, about 15 people in the Office of Manufacturing and Energy Supply Chains and about half a dozen from the Office of Cybersecurity, Energy Security, and Emergency Response, [b]which guards against threats to the power grid and other energy infrastructure, were dismissed.[/b][/QUOTE]Ah, now that's more like it.
Finally, President Musk and his fellow America-hating Hackers have found the lynch-pin to yank out and plunge the USA into the kind of colossal economic and national security crisis and destruction the Repub Party is apparently contractually required to produce every time the American electorate is foolish and complacent enough from far superior Dem policy and stewardship results to lower their guard and allow Repubs to slither back into a position of power. Usually by screetching along with some monkey troop of idiotic Social Issues For Suckers, of course.
I can't wait to hear the MAGAs twisted pretzel "reasoning" for how whatever horrific outcome this leads to was just another wild and weird coincidence having nothing to do with what a Repub so-called president did but just as likely the result of, oh I don't know, whatever some junior staffer for a Dem Senator wrote in a legislation summary during the Obama-era years.
