Cartagena Reports

Sweetlemon,

Good writeup, and I agree with most of your thoughts.


[QUOTE=Sweetlemon]I'd say it was about comparable to what you would find in the Boca Chica in the Dominican Republic and I think Boca Chica is more fun because it's a whole street full of bars and much livelier all week.
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True. LDV is great, but once you put that aside, Cartagena does not really have the depth and liveliness of other places.


[QUOTE=Sweetlemon]As for prices, the LDV girls try on 300, 000 COP for a short time, but will accept 200, 000 for all night based on my small sample. (I'm sure you could do better with some hard bargaining, but I don't like to bargain too hard as it creates a bad vibe that premises the rest of the night IMO, if not for her then for me. The more the whole thing takes on the characteristics of business transaction, the less sexy the experience is for me. Also, I like to get the exact girl I want, who is usually the hottest one in the bar, and don't mind giving extra). Anyway, that's about $80 to $120 USD, roughly.compared to the DR, where you can get a similar girl for $20 USD or Rio, $60, Cartagena is not a bargain.[/QUOTE]
I think your Cartagena prices are too high here, and your Rio prices are too optimistic. You call Rio at $60... but if you ask the hottest girl in Help to quote a price and don't bargain, guys are paying 400R for a couple of hours. That's $180.

To give you a better idea, I hit both places earlier this year. In Help I settled at about 200R ($80), in LDV I settled at 100k to 130k ($50).

You probably just need to discover the real prices for Colombia, because the prices you are reporting on apartments, LDV ass etc are all a bit on the high side.


[QUOTE=Sweetlemon]It's easy to pickup up the poorer, less educated girls for a quick shag, but the educated, professional girls (which are what I find attractive) are a bit more circumspect about some young gringo such as yours truly. I'm considered guilty of being a sex-tourist or simply here today gone tomorrow until proven innocent, but once the girls get to know that you have some connection to the area, they open up-sometimes quite literally. The women are friendly and flirty and luscious. I have about 7 girls in the queue that are waiting for a call so I've got my hands full at the moment.
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I think talking about good girls vs bad girls is a bit too simplistic. It's a continuum or sliding scale. You would be surprised how many of those educated, professional girls have given it up for money at one time or other. Even if it was just one time to buy that expensive pair of sunglasses they were lusting after.

A good middle ground is the prepagos. Less hardcore than pros, but none of the drama of a novia (especially if you are planning on changing novias regularly).

Hello all,

It´s my first trip to Cartagena and it has been interesting to say the least. I want to share my experience so far, and ask a few questions.

I will cut through all the fluffy information and get to the meat! My first night I went to LDV and found a nice chica. I negotiated 200 COP for TLN and bought her and me a drink. 14K COP it came to be I think. This was at about 12:30. We then went to a nightclub in el centro for about an hour. It was fun, but an overwhelming experience. I paid her entrance fee and two drinks for me and her. (I can hear the groans now). At about 2 I wanted to go back to my apartment so we went. She was good in the sack, but after one "termina" she wanted to leave! Even though being with her was a pleasant experience, I paid for TLN and wanted it. My Viagra pill needed to be used! In any case, I only paid her 100K COP. Obviously she was mad, but I stood my ground and she left. My question is, did I do the right thing? What is the definition of Toda La Noche? Worst case I figured multiple pops uptil 5am.

My apartment is close to LDV so I ended up going there after the incident. It was about 3:30. I found another nice blondie from medellin (The first girl was from cali). We negotiated 150K cop for short term. She was ok, and I had a good time. She wanted money for the cab ride home for I paid her 10K. Later I found another american here and he said its pretty much standard for cap ride far. What does everyone here think?

I did the usual tourista activities the next day, then I wanted to see the casas! Hands down, the casas are where the good action is. I went to two of them in the Bosque area. Venus and another one, I can´t remember the name, maybe modilla house? The first one, modilla I think or similiar (Ill post a correction next time) had about 6 or 7 women. All thin girls! I could not believe it! I ended up talking to one for 20 minutes and paid her 80K to the house, and 80K to her. I think my cabbie got a commission, but I am not sure. She was very good! Great attitude. I tipped her another 20. I want to go to the Rosario Islands with a chica and she is on my list.

The taxi driver and I then went to Venus. I walk in and its amazing. It is probably about 10:30, with 25 girls and no men. All the girls are thin. I am used to Juarez, Mexico where most of the girls are fatties with a few thin ones. What does a guy do in this situation? Its like going to the grocery story and shopping for fruit. Over the years I have finally learned not to pick the prettiest because their attitudes are in the toilet. This one chica caught my eye and the look are her face was priceless. It was the look of, "Oh my God, he chose me!". She was from Medellin and had a great attitude. BTW, she was the first chica out of 4 to give me a BBBJ. What gives?! Must be because I am gringo and a little shy. Not sure. We negotiated 60K for the house, and 100K her (I knew I could probably get less for her, but I really liked her attitude and wanted to reward her for it). She even spoke some English which was impressive. I BTW am about a 4 on a 1 to 10 scale for Spanish. All else being equal, I´ll take her to the islands. All these girls have cell phones.

After that I went back to LDV. I found the blondie from the night before and I got her again for 150. I also saw the one I only gave 100 to. I ignored her and she was not a problem. We went to my apartment close by, and after this much sex I couldnt finish. She ended up being a clock watcher. I pleasently let her leave, but no way am I getting her again. It was only 15 minutes worth. Next time I go to LDV I´ll have to gracefully say no gracias. Looks go a long way, but I want a good attitude to go along with her.

So today I wanted to get a real massage. So sex, just a massage. So I saw there was a place called Masajes Rocio, and I went there. Ugh, they offer only sex and mediocre massages. I was not in the mood so I declined. However, this place looks to be one of the only places to get sex during the day. Anyone know of other places? We went by casa international and it was dead. What do I expect at 3pm? I will go back later tonight.

So it is day 3 in my trip and 7 more days to go. I am sure I may of paid too much in some cases, but hopefully not too much. I also ended up paying the taxi 20 an hour plus I bought him a few drinks. What would be the going rate? Probably cheaper.

Until my next report, best of luck to you all.

Junkyard

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Has anyone stayed at the Hilton and wasn't allowed to have guest in their room?

[QUOTE=Junkyard]My first night I went to LDV and found a nice chica. I negotiated 200 COP for TLN and bought her and me a drink. 14K COP it came to be I think. This was at about 12:30. We then went to a nightclub in el centro for about an hour. It was fun, but an overwhelming experience. I paid her entrance fee and two drinks for me and her. (I can hear the groans now). At about 2 I wanted to go back to my apartment so we went. She was good in the sack, but after one "termina" she wanted to leave! Even though being with her was a pleasant experience, I paid for TLN and wanted it. My Viagra pill needed to be used! In any case, I only paid her 100K COP. Obviously she was mad, but I stood my ground and she left. My question is, did I do the right thing? What is the definition of Toda La Noche? Worst case I figured multiple pops uptil 5am.
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Yes, you did the right thing to stand your ground. The proof is, she was fine about it the next day.

Things like "toda la noche" are too vague and the lazier girls will try and wriggle out of things any way they can. I prefer to say "until 10am" or "until midday" or whatever time you want. That way there is no comeback about what time you left the club, or "oh, is that the time!?"

Don't hesitate to ask direct questions like "Do you like sex?", it can give you a feel for whether she's going to deliver or not.

Buying drinks is OK. Personally I prefer to buy lots of drinks for the girls while in Cartagena. The LDV bar prices are quite reasonable and it usually pays off for you once you get her alone later in the night. I will buy a small bottle of rum at LDV, which means I can splash the drinks around a maybe deal her friends in a drink or two. And then I always have more booze back at the apartment.


[QUOTE=Junkyard]She wanted money for the cab ride home for I paid her 10K. Later I found another american here and he said its pretty much standard for cap ride far. What does everyone here think?
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Correct. Unless she lives in Bocagrande or Centro and then I would give her 5k.


[QUOTE=Junkyard]So it is day 3 in my trip and 7 more days to go. I am sure I may of paid too much in some cases, but hopefully not too much. I also ended up paying the taxi 20 an hour plus I bought him a few drinks. What would be the going rate? Probably cheaper.
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Yeah, you could probably pay 12k or 15k per hour. The true prices at the casas are probably much less than what you paid, but they always try and gouge the gringo. I got fed up with it and never use the casas.

Enjoy the rest of your time in Cartagena!

Sweetlemon - thank you for your report which was most informative. I was surprised by your comment on CTG not being that appealing from both a tourist and hobby points of view. I was actually planning a trip in December. Many travel books describe Cartagena as one of the most beautiful cities in South America and that was what created my interest. And the hobby of course :)

Would you or anybody else recommend any better alternatives within, say, a three hour flying time radius of Miami ?

Thanks and best regards.

JD

No, the posts of Sweetlemon and I were not the same. If you read the beginnings of both you can see that I prefaced my comments on having been to Cartagena 10 times. I took his post and added my comments in CAPS in response to his statements based upon one trip. Then someone on the other side of the world edited my comments and turned them all into lower cased comments.

I have never met Sweetlemon, I am not a friend of Sweetlemon, and no, Senator, I'm no Sweetlemon.

[QUOTE=JackDaniels]Sweetlemon - thank you for your report which was most informative. I was surprised by your comment on CTG not being that appealing from both a tourist and hobby points of view. I was actually planning a trip in December. Many travel books describe Cartagena as one of the most beautiful cities in South America and that was what created my interest. And the hobby of course :)

Would you or anybody else recommend any better alternatives within, say, a three hour flying time radius of Miami ?

Thanks and best regards.

JD[/QUOTE]

I spent two weeks last December in Cartagena and would second Sweetlemons report. Very accurate.

Try Rio de Janeiro or even Buenos Aires in that order. Longer flights but worth it.

El Greco

El Greco

Thank you for your response. I have travelled through Brazil and Argentina and have really enjoyed my time in both these countries in terms of travelling and the nightlife. I agree that these are the primary destinations in South America along with Peru.

I am looking for a change and hence my question.

It seems that the beauty of the women in Columbia is unequalled and that in itself would be worth seeing.

Would appreciate anyone's frank comments.

[QUOTE=JackDaniels]El Greco

Thank you for your response. I have travelled through Brazil and Argentina and have really enjoyed my time in both these countries in terms of travelling and the nightlife. I agree that these are the primary destinations in South America along with Peru.

I am looking for a change and hence my question.

It seems that the beauty of the women in Columbia is unequalled and that in itself would be worth seeing.

Would appreciate anyone's frank comments.[/QUOTE]

Then go to Medellin, stay at the Aussie's Greg mansion, frequent Parque las Jerras area epecially early thursday to sunday evenings. Fantastic upscale colombianas there. Non pros. Greg and the other guys there will guide you for the pro ones.

The only bad thing no beaches there and the high altitude is kind of tiring.

The city is nice and safe if you follow the rules.

They also run direct flights from Miami.

El Greco

[QUOTE=JackDaniels]El Greco

Thank you for your response. I have travelled through Brazil and Argentina and have really enjoyed my time in both these countries in terms of travelling and the nightlife. I agree that these are the primary destinations in South America along with Peru.

I am looking for a change and hence my question.

It seems that the beauty of the women in Columbia is unequalled and that in itself would be worth seeing.

Would appreciate anyone's frank comments.[/QUOTE]
I am a die hard Lima fan and think it the best place in SA for non-pro action. That bieng said I think as you have been to the top three spots in SA, you owe it to yourself to see and experience CTG even for non-mongering purposes. You will meet Colombiana's from all over, there are good apartment options and a extremely knowledgable and helpful monger by the handle of "Tom33". Have a good trip and let the rest of us know how you would rate things.
LB

[QUOTE=Lima Busy]I am a die hard Lima fan and think it the best place in SA for non-pro action. LB[/QUOTE]

Lima Busy,

You are not the first person to say that Lima has hot chicas.

I am curious as to where exactly do you find theses non-pro girls you speak of.

I will be going to Lima next year. Is this the right place or is there another location that is better. Also, how much work goes into finding non-pro action.

I have found that the further you get from the big cities, the easier the girls are to meet in a normal fasion. So I am wondering if this is also true of Peru.

BTW- Are you posting this info already on the Peru board? Also, do your run a B&B as well or know of a good one?


Cheers,


Cubanut

[quote]I have never met Sweetlemon, I am not a friend of Sweetlemon, and no, Senator, I'm no Sweetlemon.[/quote]I guess we got that sorted out.

JackDaniels, I don't want to say that it would be a bad place. I could live here. I do want to say that if you have a week or two, you'd really be losing out by choosing Cartagena if you haven't visted other Latin American locations as a tourist or a monger.

If you're looking for something breataking, Cartagena doesn't compare to many cities in Latin America.

For beach cities, Rio de Janerio, Havana, Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco, and arguably other Mexican and Cuban cities are much, much more beautiful and interesting IMHO and have plenty of P4P. I don't know Central America so I couldn't comment. It's definately better than Santo Domingo as a city, but the DR in general (including Boca Chica and the north coast) is a bit more fun it seems to me, though both the DR and Rio can be sketchy and a bit dangerous while Cartagena is quite safe. Buenos Aires is a totally different asthetic but they defenately have beautiful women there as well.

Jon32, thanks for the input. I've gone to a few good restuarants adn they were great. It still seems like they all have the pretty much the same things on the menu, but my sample size is admitedly small.

I think I'm going to stand by the ATM complaint. From Laguito it's about a 20 to 30 mintue walk to an ATM in Boca Grande round trip which in my book is pretty inconvinient (though perhaps maditory walking is good for the health). The only ATM I can find in Laguito is the one near the frozen yogurt place which is down most of the time.

Anyway, the Colombian women are as gorgeous as any women anywhere on any measure, that much is certain.

[QUOTE=Sweetlemon]I think I'm going to stand by the ATM complaint. From Laguito it's about a 20 to 30 mintue walk to an ATM in Boca Grande round trip which in my book is pretty inconvinient (though perhaps maditory walking is good for the health). The only ATM I can find in Laguito is the one near the frozen yogurt place which is down most of the time.
[/QUOTE]The Hilton hotel in Laguito has an ATM that I almost always used. Gives out 400K pesos. Walk into the hotel, go down the hall on the right, and it's down the hall a bit.

There are many very knowledgable folks in this forum, including residents who currently live there. Knowing simple things, such as the nearest ATM, would have made your stay in CTG more pleasant. Or a simple 'donde esta el cajero automatico mas cerca?' or 'hay otros cajeros automaticos cercana?' to one of the natives would also work (of course, sometimes they don't know or are passive agressive against gringos - I've experienced this in other countries, but not CO).

I'm grateful for the guys on this and other forums who have gone before me, took many for the the team in various aspects of travel, and have made my trip most enjoyable. Prior preparation via research is essential.
[QUOTE]Anyway, the Colombian women are as gorgeous as any women anywhere on any measure, that much is certain.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to nearly as many places as you or others in SA, but Colombianas sure have my vote!

[QUOTE=Sweetlemon]I think I'm going to stand by the ATM complaint. From Laguito it's about a 20 to 30 mintue walk to an ATM in Boca Grande round trip which in my book is pretty inconvinient (though perhaps maditory walking is good for the health).[/QUOTE]

Jeez, some of the best puss-watching and trolling areas are in Boca Grande. If you are too lazy to walk, you can bus there for 900 pesos. Walk the streets, have a coffee, hit an ATM, have lunch or dinner[your comment about the same stuff on the menu is way off]. Hell, you might even get lucky and want to cab to Laguito with your catch of the day(4K pesos).

Inconvenient? Do you have to work long hours while you are here? If you want to stay in Laguito and only eat at restaurants directly between your apartment and LDV, you might be right.

On a more general note, CTG is not for everyone. MDE is a much nicer city, but you need a bit more experience to handle it.

[QUOTE=Cubanut]Lima Busy,

You are not the first person to say that Lima has hot chicas.

I am curious as to where exactly do you find theses non-pro girls you speak of.

I will be going to Lima next year. Is this the right place or is there another location that is better. Also, how much work goes into finding non-pro action.

I have found that the further you get from the big cities, the easier the girls are to meet in a normal fasion. So I am wondering if this is also true of Peru.

BTW- Are you posting this info already on the Peru board? Also, do your run a B&B as well or know of a good one?


Cheers,


Cubanut[/QUOTE]

Cubanut,
Do not want to clog up this thread with info on Lima as it is well covered on this site as well as others. No monger B&B's as most guys prefer to stay in a hotel or rent a apartment.With the #3 cuisine in the world today and world renowned restuarants as well as ethnic diversity Lima has a more cosmopolitian feel to it. Most guy's will tell you if your a "city type" the best mongering is always in the capital city of any country. If P4P is your thing than "prices" are always cheaper in the outlying areas. Peru's reputation is not based on the beauty of the population as a whole, but more on the approachability and sweetness of the women. If you want more info just follow the Lima thread and to make up for my post I include a photo of a non-pro friend of mine.