Berlin

[QUOTE=My Dixie Wrecked]Thanks for this information Angus. I was in Berlin a few days ago and tried to contact this agency to try out Cindy. The person on the phone could not speak English very well and I cannot speak German. I think he was trying to tell me she was not available tonight and would I like to choose someone else.

Was a shame but maybe I will e-mail them and try to arrange before returning to Berlin next time[/QUOTE]

Hi,

This is one of the difficulties with using the less expensive agencies in Berlin. Usually the phone will go straight through to the driver and his English skills will be low to none. With La Passion I might suggest phoning earlier in the day (13:00-14:00) and trying to pre-arrange a session. The first time I used this agency this is what I did. I was not very hopeful as to the girl showing up on time (I booked early afternoon for 22:00) but the agency handled everything with complete competence. You can try the email but I would not put much faith in it, especially if you write in English. But you never know.

As I mentioned in my report, Cindy is indeed a new comer and not very much the pro. It would not surprise me if she is a bit difficult to book as she is also a bit of a party girl. I also think that her friend, Alicia, looks promising if a bit of a larger girl.

[QUOTE=Cooper424]I am travelling to Berlin with my wife in September, and we like to enjoy beautiful women together. We have looked for women in Germany to provide services to couples before, without much luck. Are there any places that specialize in serving couples or women? Is this common/uncommon in Berlin or Germany as a whole? Any info will be greatly appreciated, we are really trying to have a good time while there![/QUOTE]
You should have no problem finding this in Berlin. There are probably more bi-women willing for this in Germany than any other place in the world and Berlin is the swingers' capital of the world with a bunch of swingers clubs in the Berlin environs.

Can't provide the links right now, but a quick Google search should turn up dozens of escorts and swingers contact boards for Germany. You'll need some rudimentary German to navigate through and find your mark.

Just been to Berlin for a few days.

Surprised to see so many SW near the TV tower area. (Mitte Market?)

Several were just stunning (9-10) and so I am completely baffled why they are plying their trade in the street and not earning a lot more escorting etc.

Can someone explain?

Cheers

fox7717

[QUOTE=Fox7717]Just been to Berlin for a few days.

Surprised to see so many SW near the TV tower area. (Mitte Market?)

Several were just stunning (9-10) and so I am completely baffled why they are plying their trade in the street and not earning a lot more escorting etc.

Can someone explain?

Cheers

fox7717[/QUOTE]

This is a question probably worthy of an extensive psychological study. A masters thesis at least.

But.... my understanding is so.

One thing that I have learned in my years of mongering (& civilian dating for that matter) is that physically beautiful, and I mean stunningly beautiful, women very rarely experience themselves as physically beautiful. My theory is that they spend so much time looking at themselves in the mirror that all they see is their, imagined or otherwise, flaws.

That and street prostitutes are, more often than not, hooked up with a boyfriend (i.e. pimp) in whose interest it is to keep them working the streets. These "BF's" will do anything to undermine the girl's confidence in herself, thus she never even sees that she could make far more money either as an independent or working for a reputable escort agency.

A third thing-these girls might look stunning but being a successful escort involves a lot more than just looking stunning. If you jump to the level of the 200-250 euro/hr. escort, you also need to have some social skills and be able to entertain in ways other than just looking stunning. And many of the agencies at the 100 euro/hr. range are little more than pimps anyway who pay the girls a very small percentage of what they earn. The street is more about the hustle than it is about providing sex and with relatively little actual
sex, these street girls can probably bring in quite a bit of cash-which thay promptly then give to their pimps.

Go figure.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]This is a question probably worthy of an extensive psychological study. A masters thesis at least.

But.... my understanding is so.

One thing that I have learned in my years of mongering (& civilian dating for that matter) is that physically beautiful, and I mean stunningly beautiful, women very rarely experience themselves as physically beautiful. My theory is that they spend so much time looking at themselves in the mirror that all they see is their, imagined or otherwise, flaws.

That and street prostitutes are, more often than not, hooked up with a boyfriend (i.e. pimp) in whose interest it is to keep them working the streets. These "BF's" will do anything to undermine the girl's confidence in herself, thus she never even sees that she could make far more money either as an independent or working for a reputable escort agency.

A third thing-these girls might look stunning but being a successful escort involves a lot more than just looking stunning. If you jump to the level of the 200-250 euro/hr. escort, you also need to have some social skills and be able to entertain in ways other than just looking stunning. And many of the agencies at the 100 euro/hr. range are little more than pimps anyway who pay the girls a very small percentage of what they earn. The street is more about the hustle than it is about providing sex and with relatively little actual
sex, these street girls can probably bring in quite a bit of cash-which thay promptly then give to their pimps.

Go figure.[/QUOTE]


Most 'escorting' in reality is just meeting blokes in Hotel rooms, which does not require much in the way of 'social skills' or conversation, as they are not usually being paid to talk!

Lads,

Had recent visit to Frankfurt, which opened my eyes re the Artemis scene here in Berlin. Both the Palace and Oase (75 and 65 Eur entrance, with 50 for 30 minutes of thrills and chills) vs 80 and 60 for Artemis. Staff of all tastes every where (they seem to rotate thru the FKK scene, including some from Artemis.

But that's only the beginning, as both the food and facilities are really much much better in the Rhein Mein. Oase in particular spent a lot on refurbishment. However, as much of the appeal is the summer garden scene, this is less compelling past Sept. But they have a proper jacuzzi, heated, powerful water jets, vs. the ice bath in Artemis. Palace has really nice rooms, little touches like a reading area that is well lit, with international newspapers, self contained smoking areas vs the main room, and really good food.

In short, Artemis is well short of these levels of service, while being far more expensive. I will stick more and more to the private apts in Berlin. Like you all I have a few Artemis favs - but really, you should see the competion. And I think that's the problem-in Frankfurt there are 3 options (with World also). In Berlin, only 1.

[QUOTE=Cooper424]I am travelling to Berlin with my wife in September, and we like to enjoy beautiful women together.[/QUOTE]
I have to say, I've always been envious of that. I've never had a lady friend who was into 3somes at all.

OK, here are some concluding remarks on my Berlin trip.

Artemis: Went there for my first time on a Thursday night (Aug. 20, 10:30pm-4am). Nicoletta (or Nicolette) was very good. She's Bulgarian, medium-dark skin, long dark hair, kind of a wide behind (the kind that's good for doggy), nice breasts, nice smile. I noticed her as soon as I walked in and asked her name. Later, after hitting the lockers, and then the food, I was cruising the bar area, and was approached by a few women who asked right away if I want to go to a room -- a little confronting for me. Then I ran into Nicoletta again, and she sat and chatted with me for a few minutes, which made a much more friendly impression. We went to do it in the kino space adjacent to the bar. It's a nice option if you like to do it in a more public space -- like partytreff, but not so much action going on around you. Actually, we were the only people in there at the time, and sometimes someone came in and looked, but didn't stay (even though I thought we put on a pretty good show). Nicoletta is easily one of the top 5 lays I've ever had in my life, mainly because of how into it she was (being very lively, rubbing her clit during the act, etc.). Normally, I'm very plain, just do mish and no BJ, but she went ahead and initiated the BJ anyway so I let her, and she inspired me to do cowgirl, doggy, and mish. I don't know if we just had a special chemistry, or if she's so enthusiastic and passionate with all guys. YMMV, I guess. Afterwards, I was with two other girls, everything was just average. Total damage, 260 EUR (80 for entrance, and 60 for each girl).

Danziger61: I went and asked for Chiara, because I liked her photos on the website. In person, she was not as sexy as I had imagined, but OK. I just did mish (my standard routine), and we had a nice chat about life in Berlin. I showed her my transit ticket and got a 5 EUR discount, so I can confirm that the discount exists. Total damage, 65 EUR for 45 min. I didn't see the other girls, so I left not having any strong feeling about going back someday.

Skype: I was finally able to get Skype-out working at two net cafes. Sometimes it's a matter of getting a computer where the hardware works, and then getting the attendant to fix the Windows sound configuration so the mic works properly. But if Skype says that the connection is "blockiert" then one should go elsewhere.

I may go back to Berlin next year and continue my adventure. However, I got the impression that there are not many good looking women in Berlin, as I walked around the city, took the subway, etc. (I don't go clubbing). So I'm not optimistic about meeting normal girls there. An older gentleman at Artemis recommended to me a dating website, something that starts with "p", but I can't remember the name. Anyone know?

[QUOTE=Night Cat]Artemis: Went there for my first time on a Thursday night (Aug. 20, 10: 30pm-4am). Nicoletta (or Nicolette) was very good. She's Bulgarian, medium-dark skin, long dark hair, kind of a wide behind (the kind that's good for doggy), nice breasts, nice smile. I noticed her as soon as I walked in and asked her name. Later, after hitting the lockers, and then the food, I was cruising the bar area, and was approached by a few women who asked right away if I want to go to a room.- a little confronting for me. Then I ran into Nicoletta again, and she sat and chatted with me for a few minutes, which made a much more friendly impression. We went to do it in the kino space adjacent to the bar. It's a nice option if you like to do it in a more public space.- like partytreff, but not so much action going on around you. Actually, we were the only people in there at the time, and sometimes someone came in and looked, but didn't stay (even though I thought we put on a pretty good show). Nicoletta is easily one of the top 5 lays I've ever had in my life, mainly because of how into it she was (being very lively, rubbing her clit during the act, etc.). Normally, I'm very plain, just do mish and no BJ, but she went ahead and initiated the BJ anyway so I let her, and she inspired me to do cowgirl, doggy, and mish. I don't know if we just had a special chemistry, or if she's so enthusiastic and passionate with all guys. YMMV, I guess. Afterwards, I was with two other girls, everything was just average. Total damage, 260 EUR (80 for entrance, and 60 for each girl).[/QUOTE]Hi Night Cat,

Nicoletta is actually the girl I have been referring to in most recent Artemis thread post as Bulgarian Girl #1. She has been my favorite girl for some months now. An absolutely wonderful girl, her enthusiasm in the room seems to know no bounds. I find her honest (she will never short you on time), thoughtful (she remembers what you like and does more of it the next time), and generally a top notch provider.

Glad that you made her acquaintance.

BTW-she tells me that she will be leaving Artemis for a trip back home very soon. She also tells me that she will be back. I hope so, but I also sort of would like to see her find a really nice guy her own age and have a happy life away from this business. I think she would make someone a really good wife & partner

I guess I am a bit of a softy with this girl because, as you can tell, I hold her in very high regard.

AM

Think about going to Berlin? Anybody done the 79 euro special at the Pussycat Club for the all you can shag deal? Is there any other similiar places?

[QUOTE=Night Cat]I may go back to Berlin next year and continue my adventure. However, I got the impression that there are not many good looking women in Berlin, as I walked around the city, took the subway, etc. (I don't go clubbing). So I'm not optimistic about meeting normal girls there. An older gentleman at Artemis recommended to me a dating website, something that starts with "p", but I can't remember the name. Anyone know?[/QUOTE]I agree that you don't see so many good looking women walking around on the streets. They are more in West Berlin around Kufurstendamm, etc than anywhere else. I met a very nice girl in a bar nearby once who grew up in East Berlin and she told me she lives in Wilmersdorf (West Berlin - charlottenberg) because she likes to dress up. There are a few places like Puro Lounge (thursday / saturday nights) where you can see lots of beautiful girls. But it's one of the only places in Berlin where they don't let everybody in and they seem to enforce a dress code.

For the dating site I heard of something similar.. Paarchen? Something like that. Good Luck!

Hi,

Next week I'll stop in Berlin Airport Hotel for one night and I'm looking for an escort to met, anyone have some suggestion about escort agency or girl that can travel to the airport?

Cheers Gear

[QUOTE=Gearmen]Hi,

Next week I'll stop in Berlin Airport Hotel for one night and I'm looking for an escort to met, anyone have some suggestion about escort agency or girl that can travel to the airport?

Cheers Gear[/QUOTE]


Just a suggestion-if you let the board know what kind of lady you are looking for-price range? top model? skank? etc., it would be a whole lot easier to help.
Perhaps do some research, read the thread, and come back with something a little more specific.

Open ended questions usually sit here unanswered. Specific question get specific results.

[QUOTE=Fordmustang]Think about going to Berlin? Anybody done the 79 euro special at the Pussycat Club for the all you can shag deal? Is there any other similiar places?[/QUOTE]

There are several reports about The Pussy Club Berlin in this and in another thread , in the partytref section somewhere I think.

As far as I know, and I am not into cheap partytref sex myself, The Pussy Club chain has recently had to change its' business plan due to some police raids. You might want to do some research before heading out.

AM

Thaks Angus for your reply,

I have already lookednto old report and I have found some escort agency and to be honest the average price for 2 hours is around 360 euro.

I would like to met a no pro girl if anyone have already some esperience, and if I would choice one from an agency definetely I'm looking for some young petite with a an high GFE.

Gear

[QUOTE=Gearmen]Thaks Angus for your reply,

I have already lookednto old report and I have found some escort agency and to be honest the average price for 2 hours is around 360 euro.

I would like to met a no pro girl if anyone have already some esperience, and if I would choice one from an agency definetely I'm looking for some young petite with a an high GFE.

Gear[/QUOTE]
Gearmen - though I can be critical of Artemis the Mega Love Bahnhoff, in your case, 80 for entrance and 4 x 60 (a half hour sessioni)= 320. Even with taxi - you'd still be way ahead, and have many more options (likie multiple partners whom you could choose at your leisure vs. the pressure of getting it just right w escort, plus dinner plus the pool sauna etc. Seems a far better deal.

I was there last night & it was really rockin with lots of talent-due to IFA congress through next week. Heard alsothere are (finally) big refurbishment plans in the works for 2010 when auto tire firm in front will go, new pool, restaurant. more parking. Wir werden sehen.