Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=DRRonin; 1256353]I think that is one of the reasons certainly. Though it is clearly difficult to measure in any methodical provable way, but most guys, including myself that I talk to who have been coming to Thailand for over ten years feel there has been a real very obvious decline in the quaility of working women in Thailand. In fact, I'd posit that the working women are some of the least attractive women in Thailand with their hard faces, tattoos and increasingly man-made breasts and noses. Go to Terminal 21 or Siam and you will see more good looking girls in an hour than you will see in days of trolling through the go-go bars. I am honestly shocked at times at the low quaility on stage in go-gos these days.

I think the improvement in the economy is the main reason and that can be seen primarily in the lack of geographical diversification of the girls available. When I first hit Bangkok in the early 90's, it was as likely for a girl to tell me she was from Chiang Mai or Bangkok as to tell me Issan. Now I am taken aback if a girl is not from Issan. When Issan starts getting wealthier as it is doing, we will really be getting the riff-raff.

Another factor is that the birth rate in Thailand like nearly everywhere else is dramatically declining thus providing a smaller pool of women.

Also, Globalization has effected the supply of Thai girls on two fronts. Back in the 90's nearly all the sex toruists were from Western countries or Japan. Now a huge pct are from the BRIC countries and from eastern Europe. With so many more lonely sexually frustrated guys coming to Thailand it only makes sense that more and more girls, esp. The good looking ones, are being either sponsored or are marrying thus taking them out of the market. Another aspect of Globalization is that many of these girls have figured out that they can make a lot more money outside of Thailand than here. Nearly every girl I know who has been around for a few years has had a stint in Singapore, Hong Kong or in Europe. Was talking with a girl 2 days ago who works primarily out of Switzerland. She charges guys the equivalent of 3, 200 baht for 20 minutes. Doing guys here for 1500 or 2000 baht for as long as they take just seems silly to her.

A lot of girls are now Escort girls charging 5000 baht for short time. There are hundreds of them doing this. So ya, they are still in the market but aimed at a business clientele who don't know better.

I think some of these factors have effected the freelance girls more than the go-go girls but both are in decline. Finding an attractive freelancer these days is a Herculean task and please don't tell me about the great looking girls at Nana Parking Lot, Gullivers or at the Beergarden. They reek of decay. And when I go looking in go-gos I am amazed at how average to ugly most of the girls are with most go-gos having at most a few decent looking ones. And as we have read here recently, most of those are of an age that it is best to avoid.[/QUOTE]Agree with all that you state in your post. As a 12 year resident, I can say that the talent level in the Sukhumvit area has been on a decline for a few years. Now that decline is geometric. Much has to do with the low unemployment rate and the rising wages in Thailand. Globalization, the internet, and the increasing horror of women from fully developed countries. It is no longer an inexpensive scene and will never be again. Great looking women know their value! Pandora's box is open.

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1256511]But I've been in Asia for a long while so maybe I'm better at estimating age. Schoolgirl uniforms etc don't fool me.[/QUOTE]The bar staff tell me the true ages when I ask, because know me for years. I don't have to rely on estimation.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1256556]Now that all the hot girl in Thailand are taken, where should one go to? Indonesia? Cambodia? Philippines? Africa?[/QUOTE]LOL you guys make me laugh and laugh every time I log on. I hope and hope to find useful reports. First BKK water, then flowers, always the price issue, and now all the girls in BKK are dogs LOL. Ok enough LOL. Jackson shut down the Thailand forum, Bangkok is no longer a good place to monger. Prices are too high, you can't drink the tap water, can't find a decent orchid (that one is my favorite) , taxis are too expensive, the girls are ugly, they are all from Issan, Nana plaza is a dump, too many lady boys, Go go's are a rip off, too many Indians selling fake watches, Thermae closed its doors and reopened in Japan, the Japanese and myself pay too much to the girls driving prices up, and oh I can't forget the flood that will come every year! Why do you all come here to visit and live if you complain so much?

Ok my report from the land of hell. I went to Barraca again, my favorite Soi Cowboy bar, line up always spectacular. There was a special show with five girls downstairs who all got completely naked on stage, normally only topless upstairs. A fair skinned beauty with long black hair caught my eye. Beautiful pussy and nice 36 see breasts. After her show I quickly moved to intercept her as she was going back upstairs to change her clothes. She agrees to have a drink with me when she finished changing. After the mandatory two drink and bar fine rule we were off to my condo. Ok boys don't faint now but we agreed 4000LT. Well I I have to say is what a fuck! All positions available, DATY, BBBJ, anal, tit fucking, what a total GFE / PSE rolled into one. I did not let her go until the next day at 6pm. We spent all night and next day fucking, sucking, eating, drinking, napping and so on. Oh fuck she turned out to be from Issan, I better go back and ask for a refund ha ha. I have added her to my list of regulars. I don't plan on divulging her Baccara number since she will turn her head at you all when you offer her 1500 LT LOL. I don`t want her to run back home anytime soon. But none of you would be interested anyways I think, LOL.

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[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1256393]How were gogos 20 years ago? Don't tell me they were full of stunners wall-to-wall? [/QUOTE]

Though it's hard to believe they were. 20, 25 years ago the average girl in the gogos was gorgeous. At least 50-75% were what we call stunners today and allmost all were very attractive by todays standards.

If you can get into one of the higher end Japanese oriented bars you'll still see this; they are full of beauties. The real deal is that the Thai's are keeping the best for themselves now days, and there are a lot more venues now so the available talent is spread more thinly on the ground.

The upcountry and Thai only places are packed with gorgeous, sweet lovelies. They move the girls into the farang venues if or when they aren't profitable in their own places. If you go with a Thai friend to a place in Sukhothai or Khorat the girls are almost all drop dead gorgeous.[/QUOTE]

Errr what? Well, for one thing I am glad you were busy gathering empirical data 25yrs ago so that you could shed your wisdom on these forums in the 21st century.

From the few pictures I've seen of bargirls from the 80s and 90s, fashion trends aside, they don't look much different from the bargirls in photos taken more recently.

My first time to BKK was in 2006 and the last was in 2011. I've always had the sense that there were stunners to be had (and for me that equates to a leggy, hardbody runway type) during this time period. Comments that these bars were chock full of stunners in the 80s is just a silly, baseless comment. I suppose back then there were no Thai or Japanese only places to scoop up all the beauties, or did a plague of butt-ugliness sweep through the country twenty years ago?

Likely 20 years of exposure has made you jaded, which is entirely understandable.

[QUOTE=Model Chaser; 1256788]Errr what? Well, for one thing I am glad you were busy gathering empirical data 25yrs ago so that you could shed your wisdom on these forums in the 21st century.

From the few pictures I've seen of bargirls from the 80s and 90s, fashion trends aside, they don't look much different from the bargirls in photos taken more recently.

My first time to BKK was in 2006 and the last was in 2011. I've always had the sense that there were stunners to be had (and for me that equates to a leggy, hardbody runway type) during this time period. Comments that these bars were chock full of stunners in the 80s is just a silly, baseless comment. I suppose back then there were no Thai or Japanese only places to scoop up all the beauties, or did a plague of butt-ugliness sweep through the country twenty years ago?

Likely 20 years of exposure has made you jaded, which is entirely understandable.[/QUOTE]This comports with everything I've heard from my friends who have been in (or going to) Thailand since the 80's. Of course the legend of greener pastures sounds good and all, but it really makes zero sense. And as anyone who has been there in the last decade can attest, there's still plenty of hotties. This sounds like of like the (stupid) price myth in disguise, to me; regardless, it's not in the least bit useful information.

For hotties, go. Well, anywhere. You'll find hot Thai girls abundantly in Bangkok. The three red light districts, late night outside Nana, late night discos, earlier clubs -- they are everywhere.

Perhaps there were indeed better times (not unbelievable) , but it really isn't bad in Bangkok (or Thailand) at all now. In fact, it's great. Anyone who says otherwise has ulterior motives, or is just too spoiled or too cheap (or both) to enjoy it.

-B-

[QUOTE=Mooris7;1256716]Well I I have to say is what a fuck! All positions available, DATY, BBBJ, anal, tit fucking, what a total GFE / PSE rolled into one. I did not let her go until the next day at 6pm. We spent all night and next day fucking, sucking, eating, drinking, napping and so on.[/QUOTE]Great report. So much for go-go beauties supposedly being terrible and overpriced experiences as we keep hearing here all the time. LOL

Now that's what we call a true GFE! Looks like you both really hit it off. Good on you mate! Who says you can't find chemistry in a GoGo bar pickup?

[QUOTE=Mooris7;1256716]Ok my report from the land of hell. I went to Barraca again, my favorite Soi Cowboy bar, line up always spectacular. She agrees to have a drink with me when she finished changing. After the mandatory two drink and bar fine rule we were off to my condo. Ok boys don't faint now but we agreed 4000LT. Well I I have to say is what a fuck! All positions available, DATY, BBBJ, anal, tit fucking, what a total GFE / PSE rolled into one. I did not let her go until the next day at 6pm. We spent all night and next day fucking, sucking, eating, drinking, napping and so on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun;1256826]Now that's what we call a true GFE! Looks like you both really hit it off. Good on you mate! Who says you can't find chemistry in a GoGo bar pickup?[/QUOTE]For 4000 baht you should be able to find whatever you want.

[QUOTE=Mooris7;1256716]LOL you guys make me laugh and laugh every time I log on. I hope and hope to find useful reports. First BKK water, then flowers, always the price issue, and now all the girls in BKK are dogs LOL. Ok enough LOL. Jackson shut down the Thailand forum, Bangkok is no longer a good place to monger. Prices are too high, you can't drink the tap water, can't find a decent orchid (that one is my favorite) , taxis are too expensive,[/QUOTE]Taxi Meter Rates Set to Increase in Mid-April.

BANGKOK:. The Transport Ministry has approved an increase in taxi meter rates planned to go into effect on April 16.

Phum Palang Taxi Cooperative manager, Kasemsan Chompoodaeng, said the Land Transport Department under the Transport Ministry approved the meter rate increase. However, he said the ministry has not yet concluded what form the price increase will take.

The Land Transport Department will discuss with the Energy Ministry, the PTT and taxi operators. All details will be finalized by April 16, which is the date that the new fares will begin.

As of now, four forms of fare hikes have been proposed. Firstly, the startling price of a cab will be maintained at 35 baht, while meter rates per mile will increase. Conversely, an alternative proposal is to increase the starting price to 40, 45 or 50 baht.

Kasemsan stated that taxi operators have been minimally affected by the energy price hike since the PTT has shouldered most of the burden on the Natural Gas for Vehicles, or NGV, at two baht a liter from January 16 through April 16.

After that, the taxi operators will be facing a gas price hike, so they will be forced to raise taxi fares. Moreover, the Transport Ministry will improve the standard of taxi services.

As of now, there are around 100, 000 cabs, and only 80, 000 of them has registered with the Ministry. The Ministry will set a limit on the number of cabs so that taxis do not outnumber passengers.

[url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/540130-thai-taxi-meter-rates-set-to-increase-in-mid-april/[/url]

Tired of bath place I don't like bath because not clean.

Can someone reccomend some quick but good quality service?

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[QUOTE=Model Chaser; 1256788]Errr what? Well, for one thing I am glad you were busy gathering empirical data 25yrs ago so that you could shed your wisdom on these forums in the 21st century.

From the few pictures I've seen of bargirls from the 80s and 90s, fashion trends aside, they don't look much different from the bargirls in photos taken more recently.

My first time to BKK was in 2006 and the last was in 2011. I've always had the sense that there were stunners to be had (and for me that equates to a leggy, hardbody runway type) during this time period. Comments that these bars were chock full of stunners in the 80s is just a silly, baseless comment. I suppose back then there were no Thai or Japanese only places to scoop up all the beauties, or did a plague of butt-ugliness sweep through the country twenty years ago?

Likely 20 years of exposure has made you jaded, which is entirely understandable.[/QUOTE]Lest you forget, even 6-7 years ago the girls had no concept of g-strings or even remotely sexy underwear. You'd pull a stunner, take her home, and she'd be wearing the goofiest set of undergarments you'd ever laid eyes on. The concept of fashion in Bangkok, both under and out, in recent years has really been a joy to behold.

[QUOTE=Mooris7; 1256716]LOL you guys make me laugh and laugh every time I log on. I hope and hope to find useful reports. First BKK water, then flowers, always the price issue, and now all the girls in BKK are dogs LOL. Ok enough LOL. Jackson shut down the Thailand forum, Bangkok is no longer a good place to monger. Prices are too high, you can't drink the tap water, can't find a decent orchid (that one is my favorite) , taxis are too expensive, the girls are ugly, they are all from Issan, Nana plaza is a dump, too many lady boys, Go go's are a rip off, too many Indians selling fake watches, Thermae closed its doors and reopened in Japan, the Japanese and myself pay too much to the girls driving prices up, and oh I can't forget the flood that will come every year! Why do you all come here to visit and live if you complain so much?

Ok my report from the land of hell. I went to Barraca again, my favorite Soi Cowboy bar, line up always spectacular. There was a special show with five girls downstairs who all got completely naked on stage, normally only topless upstairs. A fair skinned beauty with long black hair caught my eye. Beautiful pussy and nice 36 see breasts. After her show I quickly moved to intercept her as she was going back upstairs to change her clothes. She agrees to have a drink with me when she finished changing. After the mandatory two drink and bar fine rule we were off to my condo. Ok boys don't faint now but we agreed 4000LT. Well I I have to say is what a fuck! All positions available, DATY, BBBJ, anal, tit fucking, what a total GFE / PSE rolled into one. I did not let her go until the next day at 6pm. We spent all night and next day fucking, sucking, eating, drinking, napping and so on. Oh fuck she turned out to be from Issan, I better go back and ask for a refund ha ha. I have added her to my list of regulars. I don't plan on divulging her Baccara number since she will turn her head at you all when you offer her 1500 LT LOL. I don`t want her to run back home anytime soon. But none of you would be interested anyways I think, LOL.[/QUOTE]At 4000 plus the 700 baht barfine, plus the 2 drinks at 150 or whatever baht, plus throw in hotels and travel fees to get to Bangkok, I imagine that is what a couple of first class escorts overseas might run one for an hour. Then again, if a $200 dinner is that tasty to the diner, well, it must have been worth every penny!

[QUOTE=Chill Out;1256804]Great report. So much for go-go beauties supposedly being terrible and overpriced experiences as we keep hearing here all the time. LOL[/QUOTE]Well I couldn't agree more. Hopefully the story was all true, but I treat all reports as stories that may be true. Bar girls can certainly perform when they want to and especially if they are in the mood. Some of the truly great girls are probably also capable of being terrible when the chemistry wasn't there.

I find if I pick girls that firstly dance well above average, have good looks and body, make good joke around conversation, and a little bit boisterous (but not too much) , then they usually turn out to be girls that like good sex a lot. There are plenty of orgasmic Thai bar-girls, and a percentage of duds. I find I have not chosen many duds in the last 2 years. Experience allows to make better choices. Some girls improve a lot with subsequent bookings, others go down hill.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1257031]Well I couldn't agree more. Hopefully the story was all true, but I treat all reports as stories that may be true. Bar girls can certainly perform when they want to and especially if they are in the mood. Some of the truly great girls are probably also capable of being terrible when the chemistry wasn't there.[/QUOTE]You find many guys talk about an oily girl, a gogo girl, a bar girl, etc. and the differences. But what about a girl who regularly crosses over from one venue to another? I don't think it is so safe to generalize. Last night I was in a disco in Pattaya and saw a girl that I liked. I waved her over to my table but she insisted that I come to the table with her and her two friends. She told me that she would go with me but she was on her period so she would only be able to do BJ and HJ. She recommended that I should choose another girl if I wanted FS. I told her that I didn't care about her period I would fuck her anyway. She finally came clean and said that she did not have her period, she was just scared because my dick may be too big for her. I reassured her telling her that it is really small. She grabbed my crotch and said no it is really big. I talked her into coming and she asked me how much I would give her. I asked her how much I needed to give her. She said 2000 and I shook my head no. She said 1500 and I shook my head no again. She said how much do you give me then? I held up one finger in front of my nose and said neung pun. She asked short time? I laughed and said no long time. She agreed and bid her friends adieu. It was 3:40am.

As we were walking back to my motorbike she said she had to stop at a bar to get her bag. After she got the bag she told me that she works at the bar, but each day she can decide if she works or not. If she works she has to be there from 6pm until 2am. If a customer pays a 300 baht bar fine the owner gives her 100 baht, and she gets 50 baht from each lady drink. She said that 8 hours is too long to be in a bar and 6pm for her was too early to be going to work.

I had noticed in the disco that she had hazel contact lenses. When we got into the elevator at my place she showed me that one of her eyelashes had come off. I said oh my Buddha. Fake eyes, fake eyelashes. Do not tell me those (pointing to her tits) are fake. She said yes they are. LOL. She is 21 and got them when she was 18 years and 2 months. She said it took her a while to save up the 60,000 baht to buy them. It leads me to believe that she must have been working before age 18. It was a very good boob job though. They made incisions in her armpit to insert the silicone. I teased her that everyone was going to think she was a ladyboy since she had fake tits.

We came into the room and took showers. A BBBJ ensued but then I wanted to start fucking. She was really afraid and showed me her micro-sized pussy. Now I realized why she was scared. She took KY from her bag and applied it liberally. We started off in mish. Very tight she was. I pulled her on top of me with one of my signature moves. When she got used to the size she rode me like a champ. We went to doggy but that was hurting too much for her. She ran into the bathroom and washed off some of the wetness. She came back and showed me where the skin at the bottom of her pussy had split. But she was willing to take more. We went back to mish and showed me how she could make her pussy pulsate. We finished and went to sleep.

I took her home at 2pm when a buddy called me wanting to get together. She called me about 4:30 while we were out and about asking if I was ready to pick her up again. I'm thinking damn I just dropped your ass off. But I told her that I would call to let her know later if I wanted her to come over again. I will definitely repeat, but not today.

[QUOTE=Mooris7;1256716]Oh fuck she turned out to be from Issan, I better go back and ask for a refund ha ha. I have added her to my list of regulars. I don't plan on divulging her Baccara number since she will turn her head at you all when you offer her 1500 LT LOL. I don`t want her to run back home anytime soon. But none of you would be interested anyways I think, LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm willing to bet that half the guys who were complaining the past couple of weeks will be filling your pm box with requests for a phone number!

Great post.