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[QUOTE=Nounce;2852976]If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.[/QUOTE]I pick Casarao based on my experience during 10+ visits during my past 2 trips to SP. Casarao consistently had many good looking young girls to choose compared to 4 x4.

I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;2853759] I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.[/QUOTE]Quantity & quality. I think we are in general agreement on this. I do a similar in-house trial run session, at least one, with all my Scandallo & Bomboa girls before I ask them to my hotel for more, more of everything. KKK.

I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.

But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. Great girls in bed! Beautiful to look at, and I don't throw that term around very often. So, I think this is another possible venue to consider if you are bored with the Moema clinicas or if you are out to shag a tier 1 in the afternoon. And once you have met a tier 1 in the afternoon and she proved herself to be repeat worthy; it is easy to exchange WhatsApp numbers for future rendezvous.

Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2852830]As I am sure you are aware, there are no termas in SP, so a 4 x4 equivalent is not going to be found. But so what? Sp has a 3 boates that are better than any RJ terma if quantity and quality matter. For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest. I would choose Casarao almost every time. And Casarao is my 3rd favorite SP boate. Believe me when I tell you there is nothing in RJ to match the top 2 SP Boates.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tribute15;2853949]Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.[/QUOTE]This is the beauty of our sport. Every player is entitled to his opinion and is free to pursue his bliss anyway, anywhere he prefers. Preferences begin with the type of girls we like, the kind of sex that turns us on, then the choice of venues available, which cities we prefer to play in, our favorite countries to travel to, and lastly throw in any financial constraints and or individual spending limits and you have it. Everyone has their favorite fill in the blank. All I can say is the more options we have, and the higher the quantity of friendly girls on hand, the better as long as the quality is solid.

[QUOTE=Tribute15;2853949]Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.

It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.[/QUOTE]I would counter that 4 x4 usually has 8-15 girls at a given night and once you go 3 times you've seen them all and their moms.

Casarao is always a different line up. You get girls coming in from scadallo, freelancers and girls just trying to make some extra cash for rent.

I met a girl in casarao in March, super chill and down to earth and now she's in miami on a trip and we met up and got some birthday sex (her's).

Casarao is like one of those kinder chocolate egg surprise candy. Its a mix bag but you definitely will find something interesting.

4 x4 is great but it gets stale after a few trips. It's only so big so not fair to compare.

Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2854183]Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).[/QUOTE]How is mongering in Manaus, how does it compare to SP?

[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2854183]Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).[/QUOTE]I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2853906]
I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.
[/QUOTE]Abbobora seem to work for lot of men. Unfortunately I am not one of them. I guess I am not picking right girls. Also don't like dealing with one of the mamasan's scummy attitude (she only does it for tourists) when you don't pick a girl. Prime and Maruna worked for me much better and their management is very nice whether you pick a girl or not.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2853906]
But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. [/QUOTE]The only upscale clinica I tried was Lotus Lounge. Sounds like you have an eye for spotting good ones from all the photoshopped pictures. Good for you. I am not a fan of tablet lineup so I tend to avoid these high-end clinicas. I rather take my chances in places where I can see the girls even tough I don't always pick right ones.

Cool, this helps thank you and SP it is.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2854243]I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.[/QUOTE]

Hello there!

We've just finished the edition and upload of six walking tours in Moema neighborhood, the Clinica Nation. A place you may walk during your next Sao Paulo visit, or a zone that brings good memories to you.

- Walking to clinica Tangara.

- Walking to clinica Red.

- Walking to clinica Prime.

- Walking to clinica Dos Carinas.

- Walking to clinica Miruna.

- Walking to clinica Abbobora.

Also a first photo story of illusion of passion based on a true story that started in a bar not so many times mentioned on the Sao Paulo forum: Zeus Bar.

Where? You just need to follow the Walking tour link on the side bars of the forum!

Note: Videos were recorded in public areas only.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2849115]
OK. So, the Palms was the only high end clinica that I visited more than once during my last trip. KKK. Of my 4 Palm girls, 2 were outstanding and I mean smokin hot, great in bed, and definitely worth the money (400 br to the house / 350 br to the girl) and 2 were not. The problem, as I see it, with all of these high end clinicas is in the selection process; the photoshopped photo lineup shown on a tiny laptop. I don't know why they do it. My guess is it is to keep the girl's identity under wraps as much as possible. Anyway, I had a great time twice at the Palms with boate quality tier 1 girls when the girl I selected turned out to be better looking than her photos. That's 50% of the time I knocked the ball out of the park at the Palms! The other times that I went there and to the other 2 high end clinicas mentioned above, I received friendly, good service, but felt I had overpaid especially compared to what I was getting for around half the money at Abboboro and Prime.

But I really liked those 2 Palm girls, KKK, and so I will accept the risks involved in the selection process and I will go back for more in December.[/QUOTE]Hey bud, kinda late but need to ask! When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?

[URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL]

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2854561]Hello there!

We've just finished the edition and upload of six walking tours in Moema neighborhood, the Clinica Nation. A place you may walk during your next Sao Paulo visit, or a zone that brings good memories to you.

- Walking to clinica Tangara.

- Walking to clinica Red.

- Walking to clinica Prime.

- Walking to clinica Dos Carinas.

- Walking to clinica Miruna.

- Walking to clinica Abbobora.

Also a first photo story of illusion of passion based on a true story that started in a bar not so many times mentioned on the Sao Paulo forum: Zeus Bar.

Where? You just need to follow the Walking tour link on the side bars of the forum!

Note: Videos were recorded in public areas only.[/QUOTE]Nice HiddenEye. What's the URL for your website? I can't the advertisement on the site.

[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2854583]Hey bud, kinda late but need to ask! When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?

[URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, those are real girls with great lighting, very good makeup and some Photoshop. If you go there in person they have an English speaking manager (perfect English) who if he likes you will give you excellent advice. And yes they have a lot more photos of the same girls in different poses and outfits. If they did a line up it would take a lot of time and probably they would need to raise your price. Even looking at the tablet you can get lost. LOL One of the top clinics I visited. The owner is from England.

I also met their photographer. He was doing sessions for Lotus Lounge girls when I was there and works for some of the other top clinics.

[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2854583]When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?

[URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL][/QUOTE]Upon arrival the receptionist will show prospective customers selected pics of the available girls which most definitely include facial and body shots together. These photos are similar in quality to the ones posted on their website and sent in their emails to customers. There is no bait and switch although a girl can look different in reality. I am into slim, natural, pretty girls and I am not into silly cones or butt enhancements, so I have to look very carefully at the photos in order to make a calculated guess. On my 1st visit I choose a Japanese Brazilian girl and that was an error. KKK. She was the same girl as in her photos and although she did not have an once of fat on her well-toned body, and her small tits were totally natural; her body was too "athletic" to suit my tastes and I never would have chosen her if I had seen her in person first.

So, I knew I made a mistake the minute she walked into my room, but I could not think of a polite way out. She was very friendly and sweet, so I decided to take one for the team even though I am well aware that I could have insisted on a change of girl. So, the session started out slow due to my lack of desire, but eventually she turned me on, and everything turned out pretty good.

The next time I went to Palms I paid more attention to inconsistencies in the photos looking for clues indicating a slender / natural body type. As a result of my efforts, my 2nd and 3rd Palms girls did not disappoint. They were more or less perfect. KKK. And in fact, I think they were both better looking in person than their photos indicated. The service was outstanding with these two as well, so I asked them for their WhatsApp which they both happily gave me.

Then my 4th Palms girl was a near miss. She was drop dead gorgeous in her photos with a near perfect, natural body, but in person she was a pretty girl next door type with a tight, very attractive, natural body. The session was pretty good, and the girl performed well, but you know, it was not nearly as good as my 2 previous sessions. I consider this girl a possible repeat thanks to her great body, demure personality and passion, but I doubt I will ever get around to her again. She was definitely better looking than average clinica girls, but not up to Scandallo tier 1 quality IMHO.

I like your idea of asking the manager to see a specific girl or girls that interest you before making a selection. I doubt it will work, but it never hurts to ask. It is probably more productive to tell the manager or receptionist what you like, for example, natural tits, and let them indicate which girls have that quality. They want you to be happy, so you keep coming back.

In addition, the customer has the right to cancel a session or request a change of girl if the girl that walks into his room is not acceptable to him. But you better make your mind up quick before anything happens and I would not make a habit of rejecting girls in the room at any particular establishment, or you will earn a bad reputation at that establishment. It is better to stop going to a particular "high end" clinica if this sort of thing (selection disappointment) happens too often.