Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2854649]Yeah, those are real girls with great lighting, very good makeup and some Photoshop. If you go there in person they have an English speaking manager (perfect English) who if he likes you will give you excellent advice. <snip> If they did a line up it would take a lot of time and probably they would need to raise your price. Even looking at the tablet you can get lost. LOL One of the top clinics I visited. [/QUOTE]My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.

I'm an advertiser but I must follow forum rules. I'm not allowed to share the direct link in the post.

The banner on the side is: Sao Paulo Club Walking Tours.

I'll send the URL over private messages to you and those interested.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=JSmith80;2854588]Nice HiddenEye. What's the URL for your website? I can't the advertisement on the site.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854686]My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.[/QUOTE]Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. It's just not the most customer-friendly approach, and I don't like it. I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2854702]I'm an advertiser but I must follow forum rules. I'm not allowed to share the direct link in the post.

The banner on the side is: Sao Paulo Club Walking Tours.

I'll send the URL over private messages to you and those interested.

Thanks![/QUOTE]What's the difference from looking at Google street view?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854678]Upon arrival the receptionist will show prospective customers selected pics of the available girls which most definitely include facial and body shots together. These photos are similar in quality to the ones posted on their website and sent in their emails to customers. There is no bait and switch although a girl can look different in reality. I am into slim, natural, pretty girls and I am not into silly cones or butt enhancements, so I have to look very carefully at the photos in order to make a calculated guess. On my 1st visit I choose a Japanese Brazilian girl and that was an error. KKK. She was the same girl as in her photos and although she did not have an once of fat on her well-toned body, and her small tits were totally natural; her body was too "athletic" to suit my tastes and I never would have chosen her if I had seen her in person first.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. My type is mostly a pretty face + big fat ass. Did it seem most of them had huge asses?

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854686]My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.[/QUOTE]You think so? My guess is it's simply a way to make more money. Think about it, if you see the lineup in person and aren't interested in anyone, you leave (I would do that). If you don't see the lineup, you're essentially "tricked" into picking the best one off of photoshopped pics. A lot of guys end up banging the girl anyway, even if they're not THAT into her when she shows up in the room. You did it, I did it, most of us already did it. Also, those girls are not "seperate" when they're behind the scenes, they're probably all in one room on their phones / talking to each other.

The girls know everything that is going on in the places with or without lineups. They monitor the public areas via the cameras so they can avoid customers for various reasons including that they don't want to be surprised by relatives or acquaintances who aren't aware of their profession.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854686]My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.[/QUOTE]

I know BBBJ is usually included in the clinicas, does that include CIM as well?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2854704]Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. ...[/QUOTE]You can talk to the girl or ask the girl to come out after line up to talk to her. I think choosing from a tablet is a little like internet shopping.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2854704]... I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.[/QUOTE]That is more common in Tangara for locals.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2854704]Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. It's just not the most customer-friendly approach, and I don't like it. I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.[/QUOTE]You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?

Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.

Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.

And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.

Hi Sperto, that's a wonderful question.

They are videos where you can see how the streets really look like (cars, bikes, buses running, garbage trucks, street vendors or people who look like, etc) and how it sounds like (loud airplanes at certain points). Google Street view gives you a muted frozen good approach yes. But video killed the radio stars, as the 80's song says.

And for those who want to see the streets that have been walked, it can be a nostalgic experience.

And most important, all our videos include chat time so you can ask specific questions to us, online, not only about clubs and clinicas also transportation, meals, local politics a seasoned traveler in Brazil can answer in four languages.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2854726]What's the difference from looking at Google street view?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2854743]Thanks for your reply. My type is mostly a pretty face + big fat ass. Did it seem most of them had huge asses?

You think so? My guess is it's simply a way to make more money. Think about it, if you see the lineup in person and aren't interested in anyone, you leave (I would do that). If you don't see the lineup, you're essentially "tricked" into picking the best one off of photoshopped pics. A lot of guys end up banging the girl anyway, even if they're not THAT into her when she shows up in the room. You did it, I did it, most of us already did it. Also, those girls are not "seperate" when they're behind the scenes, they're probably all in one room on their phones / talking to each other.[/QUOTE]I don't know about most of them having "huge" asses, KKK, but girls with pretty faces, large breasts, and large butts are a well-represented type in the Palms. I think you will find plenty of girls there in your target group to choose from.

Your theory that the house earns a net profit from its use of digital photos because some guys are more reluctant to walk after a girl enters his room, does not consider all the guys who are turned off by digital photo selection in the first place and do not go to these kinds of clinicas. Plus, there are a lot of guys who would walk if the girl was a letdown. So, I am not convinced this is a long-term money making strategy. We shall see.

[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2854786]Hi Sperto, that's a wonderful question.

They are videos where you can see how the streets really look like (cars, bikes, buses running, garbage trucks, street vendors or people who look like, etc) and how it sounds like (loud airplanes at certain points). Google Street view gives you a muted frozen good approach yes. But video killed the radio stars, as the 80's song says.[/QUOTE]No matter if I go to a hotel, restaurant, shop or puteiro I don't care about how the street look like. Many guys would go by taxi or Uber, others would go by metro or buses. When visiting a puteiro isn't like you enter a favela, you're just going to a specific address. Using Google Maps it's impossible to miss. If you really wants to attract clients you propably should have some videos from the inside of the puteiros. If not the girls at least the reception, lounge area and the rooms.

Wow what a whirlwind trip. Unfortunately I do not have any new girls to tell you about. I had dates (and it felt more like dates) with three girls that I met on previous trips. One from Photoacompanhantes, One from Casaro, and one from a clinic. All came to my hotel and stayed all night and most of the next day with me.

Part of the reason I am reporting this is to let everyone know that you can strike gold in many different ways. Sure there are some bait and switch on photo but I did two nights with my previously met one from there. She is not advertising now so I will not offer her. She was so excited to see me. She initiated love making 3 times the first night and twice the next day. I would not have believed I could do that! I met the Casaro one on New Years night this year. We met at the club, drank one drink and I told her I wanted her to come to my hotel. She said she was hungry and that she would buy her own sandwich. After I bought her out of the club she actually did buy her own sandwich and a soda for me. I was very impressed! Then she stayed all night even though the agreement was for 1 1/2 hours at the hotel. She was obviously excited to see me again and went out of her way to come to me and make my night wonderful. She revealed to me that the night we met was only her 4th night in SP. The one from the clinic appears to truly think she is in love with me. LOL but she does view me as a money tree.

I hope to be able to go for Christmas and New Years again this year. I will make a special point to visit the clubs and Clinics and give reports.

I met with two other ISGers and we had a wonderful sushi lunch. Hopefully we will be able to meet again.

You can hang out and "flirt" with the girls as long as you want in the flagship Vila Mariana clinicas Tangara and Yankin, among others. You don't get the mood lighting, music, and furnishings of the boates but in the end if the priority is sex well, you know where I'm going with this.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854783]You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?

Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.

Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.

And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854783]You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?

Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.

Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.

And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.[/QUOTE]Of course we are all different but I am with Axel on this. I loooove the flirt and date part and affection (beyond sex). So there is this spectrum. Least interaction is a point and click Clinica girl. And most interaction is Seeking Arrangement type date where you have dinner and drinks first. Maybe even dancing. And sometimes they spend the night. Once you have a rapport with a girl you can spend a lot of time together that includes but is not limited to sex. In London last week spent two full days with a fave girl including 5 hours at the club. This is true GFE and some guys like me love it and others could care less.

Between the clinicas and Seeking lie the Boates and to a lesser extent the termas in Rio. You spend some time with a girl. Maybe even make out or dance for 20 minutes or more (my first Scandallo girl we danced and made out for two hours but that's prob exceptional).

Of course you can also convert a girl to a more "date" format if she likes you and is willing. More than a few times I've moved an agency escort off the books and gone on dates and overnights. Same thing with Clinica and Boate girls.

Final note is while Seeking is best for cities that don't have an active scene like SP you can still score some amazing girls. I had a 9. 5 in Rio on a Sunday (everthing closed) for a three hour date for R500. She was amazing. So def keep your options open.