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[QUOTE=Fon Tok;1259230]the domestic "entertainment" business dwarfs the one for foreign customers.[/QUOTE]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259244]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.[/QUOTE]Really? You have checked their accounting?
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1259230]There are many NE TH / Isaan villages where very few, or no, women go to work as prostitutes. How do you explain this?
There are many Thai prostitutes that are not from Isaan. Thai men actually prefer women from north Thailand, and the domestic "entertainment" business dwarfs the one for foreign customers.
You could write a dissertation (and many have) about the roots of poverty in Thailand. Your statement,"the only marketable commodity for many (Isaan) families is their daughters' pussies," is a very simplistic view of reality.
Every "working" Thai woman I've met and gotten to know has a different story.[/QUOTE]Some very good points. It is probable that Issaan girls are poorly educated due to poverty and long term drought plus lack of natural resources. Are Issaan girls dominant in Thai entertainment places too? Even in Chiang Mai and Hat Yai? Perhaps not. Issaan girls seem to dominate in places intended for Farangs. This may be due to Farangs liking Issaan girls more than the Thais do, and also due to poorer and less educated backgrounds. A high proportion of these girls are single mothers too. Another relevant factor I guess. Could it be that some of these girls feel higher responsibility to support their families that are in bad economic situations?
There must be many relevant issues.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1259271]Really? You have checked their accounting?[/QUOTE]If Thais ranging from waitresses up to high government officials were not making significant money off of it, much more than they could make from the local industry, Cowboy and Pattaya would be shut down and cease to exist.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner; 1259209]Wow where do I start with this post.
After the girl you barfined from Rio got too drunk (on your bill) , you paid 3000 LT to a Climax girl, bragging about how she stayed until 2PM? Wahahahaha.
You paid 2700 for dinner with a girl from Badoo? Ahahahaha.
And then on top of that, you posted a photo of a completely average looking thai bargirl.
Treating hoes like princesses. This is how places get ruined.[/QUOTE]Here are some pics of some freelance girls and freebies from my recent outings. I am still waiting for yours!
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1259291]Issaan girls seem to dominate in places intended for Farangs. This may be due to Farangs liking Issaan girls more than the Thais do, and also due to poorer and less educated backgrounds.[/QUOTE]Its all economics!
There are plenty of Thai guys who like Isaan girls and fuck them all the time. It's just farang / japs will pay way more than Thais to to fuck these Isaan types, so they gravitate towards farang / jap venues to make the most cash.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1259291]Some very good points. It is probable that Issaan girls are poorly educated due to poverty and long term drought plus lack of natural resources. Are Issaan girls dominant in Thai entertainment places too?[/QUOTE]Isaan on the whole is not as backward as people often think. It is the home to more than 25 million people and there are large cities (Khorat, Khon Kaen, Ubon Ratchathani, Udon Thani, Nakhon Phanom) , with thriving economies and good schools. The countryside is mainly agricultural and seasonally dry, however, it is very productive in the wet season. The generic poverty that I've observed is more related to lack of infrastructure investment (roads, etc.) , poor quality education, and restricted access to private capital. Of course, peoples' habits and bad luck can create personal poverty.
In general, Thai men prefer young girls who've not born children, and with light skin. You don't find a lot of Isaan women who meet these criteria. Most of the white skinned women come from Bangkok, the north and central regions. Also, Isaan women generally speak a different language (Isaan / Lao) than moneyed Thai men.
[QUOTE]Even in Chiang Mai and Hat Yai? Perhaps not.[/QUOTE]Thai people will go wherever they can to make money. I lived in the south for awhile and met a lot of people from Isaan, and other parts of Thailand, as well.
Chiang Mai is close to China in more ways than just geography. White skin, beauty, and elegance are valued here in female characteristics.
Malaysian men, who form the predominant group visiting frequent Hat Yai, probably are not as interested in white skin as their Thai counterparts.
[QUOTE]Issaan girls seem to dominate in places intended for Farangs. This may be due to Farangs liking Issaan girls more than the Thais do, and also due to poorer and less educated backgrounds.[/QUOTE]A lot of farang men prefer darker skin women. Generally, the women who work in exclusively farang venues cannot get jobs in the Thai venues. The exception would be low end place for "cheap charlie" Thais.
[QUOTE]A high proportion of these girls are single mothers too. Another relevant factor I guess.[/QUOTE]They have to send "milk money" back to mama.
[QUOTE]Could it be that some of these girls feel higher responsibility to support their families that are in bad economic situations?[/QUOTE]Part of Thai Buddhism and Thai culture is a strong principle that daughters are indebted to their mother and father, and must always take care of them, no matter what. This is especially true for the eldest daughter.
[QUOTE]There must be many relevant issues.[/QUOTE]You might take a look at this link:
[url]http://www.siamhoney.com/thai_second_class.php[/url]
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259244]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. The domestic business is huge compared to the tourist business.
Ever been to Ratchadaphisek Road? [url]http://www.bangkoksite.com/entertainment/Ratchadapisek.htm[/url]
There are karaoke bars, massage shops, and brothels in just about every Thai city and town. The tourist business is limited to a handful of well lit, well known locales.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1259291]Some very good points. It is probable that Issaan girls are poorly educated due to poverty and long term drought plus lack of natural resources. Are Issaan girls dominant in Thai entertainment places too? Even in Chiang Mai and Hat Yai? Perhaps not. Issaan girls seem to dominate in places intended for Farangs. This may be due to Farangs liking Issaan girls more than the Thais do, and also due to poorer and less educated backgrounds. A high proportion of these girls are single mothers too. Another relevant factor I guess. Could it be that some of these girls feel higher responsibility to support their families that are in bad economic situations?
There must be many relevant issues.[/QUOTE]I don't think its as complicated as you see it.
The Thai government itself has admitted Thai IQ's in general are below international standards, and Isaan is well below even the Thailand average. The Thai government then takes the politically correct stance that low IQ's are fixable, when in fact beyond marginal IQ improvements with better education and nutrition and so forth, IQ's are very slow to change, as their causations derive over thousands or perhaps hundreds of thousands of years. Now as far as Bangkok and other areas such as Phuket, they have benefitted from a 1000 years of Chinese migration and intermarriage, which of course acts as an offsetting factor given that China, Korea, and Japan on an aggregate basis have the highest IQ's of any group in the world. As has been widely reported "more than 80% of top 40 richest people in Thailand are Thai of full or partly Chinese descent". Raw IQ being largely innate from birth may be unfair, but it can and often does influence what type of occupation one ends up working in.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1259322]Sorry, but you are wrong on this one. The domestic business is huge compared to the tourist business.
Ever been to Ratchadaphisek Road?
[url]http://www.bangkoksite.com/entertainment/Ratchadapisek.htm[/url]
There are karaoke bars, massage shops, and brothels in just about every Thai city and town. The tourist business is limited to a handful of well lit, well known locales.[/QUOTE]I've seen plenty of local places in small towns. Business was terrible.
Pattaya likely makes more in a week than the the domestic places in every small town in Thailand make in a year.
[QUOTE=GentleBoner;1259244]In monetary terms, the domestic business doesn't even come close to the money flowing through Nana, Cowboy, Pattaya and Patong, let alone dwarf it.[/QUOTE]Gentle Boner. The thai men only allow us poor foreigners to fuck their brown skinned poorer people from Isaan etc, the white skinned thai girls are reserved for the locals and command a huge price. On Ratcahaphisek Road there is a huge brothel, actually two hotels joined together and they simply won't allow farang inside unless brought by a thai. Next time you are in Cowboy do a little research, sit by the cashier and count the money, count the empty beer bottles outside at the end of the night, count how many bargirls go home alone, even in the best of bars the takings are not all that huge, and don't ever believe a bar owner, his only way out of his "investment" is to suck in the next guy.
[QUOTE=AussieDoug;1259348]On Ratcahaphisek Road there is a huge brothel, actually two hotels joined together and they simply won't allow farang inside unless brought by a thai.[/QUOTE]Where exactly is this place? How much are the girls?
[QUOTE=Harold444;1259190]Whats in it for the girl if farang not willing to HELP? If girl just asks shouldn't guy just run anyway-kinda obvious what girl wants![/QUOTE]She already is being helped. Farang pays the rent, pays the bills, pays the food, pays for everything when they go out. If they met in a bar, chances are that her education level is low enough that she is already being given a life (at least economically) far better than anything she has ever known. If she wants more, tell her to go out and GET A JOB, try being useful, and try showing her farang that she is actually a prize well worth keeping and that she has something to contribute to the relationship other than the space between her legs.
[QUOTE=Fon Tok; 1259230]There are many NE TH / Isaan villages where very few, or no, women go to work as prostitutes. How do you explain this?
There are many Thai prostitutes that are not from Isaan. Thai men actually prefer women from north Thailand, and the domestic "entertainment" business dwarfs the one for foreign customers.
You could write a dissertation (and many have) about the roots of poverty in Thailand. Your statement,"the only marketable commodity for many (Isaan) families is their daughters' pussies," is a very simplistic view of reality.
Every "working" Thai woman I've met and gotten to know has a different story.[/QUOTE]Well agreed, a bit too simplistic and there are a lot of different realities. I have been to many of the Thai massage places on Petchaburi or Ratchada where a papasan has told me that a girl is from Chiang Mai, only to get to the room and discover that she is from Udon or Buriram. And while it is true that the general mid-Hi so Thai spec is white skin and northern, there are plenty of mid-Hi so Thai men out there with Isaan giks, gf's, mia nois, and ST companions. I was up at the Saphan Kwai gogos awhile back and was surprised to see that 80% of the girls looked more or less exactly like the girls at Nana or Cowboy, not necessarily more white skinned, prettier, classier, or anything else. Conversely, many northern girls have asked me why farang don't like them, or why farang like dark skin. I always tell them that in general, farang are probably a bit less discerning than their Thai counterparts. Farang like women who are nice to them, make them laugh, have a good heart, and are fun to be with. In general, especially when the girl is good looking, skin color or tone is probably much further down the line in importance. However. 95% of the farang in Bangkok go to Nana / Cowboy areas to find their women, and probably 90% plus or minus of the girls who go to work in these places are from Isaan. And there is probably a higher percentage of girls from Isaan who happen to have darker skin. If Nana was full of white skinned Chiang Mai / Rai hotties, I am sure farang would be just as busy seducing them as anyone else.
Isaan does have the most rural poverty in the country, but as Fon Dok says, not all villages nor Isaan girls become prostitutes or look for farang, same as not all Isaan people become maids, taxi drivers, som tam sellers, or so forth. I have said some of the worst things about girls from Isaan and have certainly met some 100% stereotypes of the evil hooker, and some of my best Thai friends are also from Isaan and are some of the most decent, hardworking, nicest people you will ever meet.