General Info

[QUOTE=Wizard561]I am going to be staying in Makati for a week and I was wondering where to go for a great night out in makati.[/QUOTE]Hi Wizard,

Here is my take on the Makati scene. I have been to the Fils 4 times in the last 9 months. Mainly because I cant believe how much hot pussy is available at a reasonable price.

There are many places to go within a 20 minute drive of Makati:

EDSA entertainment complex, this is a large building with 8-12 different clubs in it. The women all wear bikinis/bra & panties and dance on a stage for your review. There is every size, shape and range of woman a man could want here. Typical barfine is 12-1400 pesos. The woman will ask for a tip at the end of the evening. It is common to tip based on performance. In my opinion this is the best value in the Manila area. 15-20 minute drive from Makati.

Roxas Blvd, this is a street with 10-12 different clubs. The concensus seems to be the best (and most expensive) is East Asia entertainment. Most of these clubs tend to cater to Asian clients. For further info when speaking of Asian mongers, think people who overpay, overindulge and don’t expect much of a performance from the girl. Barfines here start at 3500 pesos and go up depending on how gullible the mamasan thinks you are. Of course the girl will expect a tip after the deed. In my opinion this is the worst place to go in Manila. Beware cab drivers will try very hard to bring you here rather than EDSA as they are very close to each other. 15-20 minute drive from Makati.

Burgos Street, this is a street in Makati with 15-20 different clubs on it. Each club has its own theme and quality of girl. The clubs generally are very good and friendly. There are two different groups that own all of the clubs on Burgos St. One group owns 80% of the clubs and there barfines are 3500 pesos. The other group owns only 4 clubs and there barfines are 22-2400 pesos. The best of these clubs is Flamingo. Once again you can find every variety of woman on this street that your heart desires. Of course you will be asked for a tip in addition to the barfine. In my opinion Burgos is a street that everyone should visit once. Go early around 8-9 pm and hit several of the clubs and make an evening of it. My personal favorite is to go to the Billboard club and watch the women do their dance routine. It is truly fabulous almost on par with a Vegas show, with the added element that alot of the women are there for the taking. In my opinion some of the most beautiful women work in this club. Of course they will expect to be tipped very well. The bad news is these women get paid pretty well just to dance and aren’t that motivated to get barfined, translation they are probably lousy in bed. 3 minute drive within Makati.

Havana Café is a bar located in the Greenbelt mall of Makati. This is strictly a free lancer bar. There are no barfines and no mamasans to do the leg work for you. On any given night it is a paradise or a desert. The bar is very good with a live band that plays good salsa music. The bar serves good food and reasonably priced drinks. Many of the women will come on to you and give you the “nod” that they are interested in you. If you see someone you are attracted to you will have to walk up and “open” with them. If they are interested they will usually invite you to join them within 3 minutes. It is understood that once you join them you are buying until you either leave with them or move to a different location in the bar without them. On rare occasions non-working girls do stop into this club because they like the music. So if you have been with a girl for 15-30 mins and she has not rubbed your hand or your leg and told you how handsome you are than you definitely have to find a tactful way to bring up the subject of her spending the night with you. Typical tips range from 15-3000 pesos. 3 min cab ride from anywhere in Makati.

L.A. Café is another freelancer club. It is located in Malate/Ermita area which is a 20 min drive from Makati depending on the time of day. This is one of the most popular and crowded pick up places in Manila. It is open 24 hours a day and is always happening. I went there a couple of weeks ago at 9 am and there was easily 100 women in there. The best time for the most quality women is in the evening between 8 pm and midnight. During peak time there is easily 300 women there. In the evening they have a very good live band upstairs which draws a huge crowd. There are a lot of mongers there playing pool and it is easy to find a wing man to “run your game with.” In my opinion I hate this place because that part of town is dirty and full of beggars and thieves. On several occasions I have run across scammer chicks who think they are too hot to have sex and still expect to be paid! But most people who go there rave about the place and for good reason there are tons of beautiful young women there 24 hours a day. These women can be had for as cheap as 1000 pesos. Please ask the advice of others as I am not the best source of info on this club.

Take away drive up joints. These are generally non-noticeable houses that you could never tell exist. The only way to find them is ask a taxi driver to take you there. Makati is littered with them. When you find a taxi driver with info on one of these he will bring you to a nondescript entrance, you go into a large room with several women sitting around in their underwear. Sometimes there are as many as 40-50 women in these places. They will simply stand there and smile at you. You make your pick and off you go to your hotel. I have seen truly beautiful young women here as well as fat, ugly old ladies. It is a crap shoot. The prices will vary anywhere from 1000-3500 pesos.

Some rules to keep in mind with all of these places. Always chose a girl you have a real deep connection with. Lets face it you can only bang for so long. So in between pops it is nice to have some good company and be pampered a little bit. If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you. The whole point of going to the “PI” is to get a girl you could never get back home and be treated the way you could never be treated by a white woman. A good rule of thumb when you start out is to find a girl you think you could never get and watch how soon she is hanging all over you. That’s when you know you found the right girl. Always discuss everything up front. If you want her to stay all night, specify a time in the morning you want her to leave. Ask what her expectations ($$) are for this amount of time. If you want something more than a bj and lay you had better discuss this upfront. If you are going to take 2 girls make sure they know if you want them to eat each other or both have sex with you rather than just one…..etc.

Good luck and good hunting. And you must post great pics as payment for this valuable info!

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[QUOTE=Wizard561]
Like I said staying in Makati, have no idea where to go have gone through most of the threads and LA seems a good place to start but at the same time the malls seem quite interesting, but at the same time I am more of an introverted person then an extrovert so that may not suit me as opposed to some other people on this forum.
Wizard[/QUOTE]

You sound real green. I think you should go back and reread the Manila and Makati threads just below where you clicked here for General Info in the PI section. There is a lot of information there. If you are in Makati, there are tons of clubs on Burgos and there are some malls in Makati. You can read more about them in the Makati section. You'll read more about LA in Manila section. If you are real shy, you might not do too well in LA or picking up in the malls. You might be better off in the barfine type clubs. Also read up on EDSA complex another girly barfine place.

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Hi Wizard,

Here is my take on the Makati scene. I have been to the Fils 4 times in the last 9 months. Mainly because I cant believe how much hot pussy is available at a reasonable price.

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Very Good info. This is one I will bookmark to reread before heading to the PI.

Thanks for the time and effort to compile it.

Slim

[QUOTE=Devils 1] If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you.
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Nice post with lots of tangible and valuable information, I agree with your findings. My only minor quibble with you would be the above statement. May have been better to say find a girl you have good chemistry with. Remember the way they act in the bar is not always an indicator of how they will act in bed and are these girls ever in truly love with you? I've had shy girls open up and relax once in the room they get to know me better and I've had the extroverts in the clubs who know how to play the game and try to take advantage once in the room.

[QUOTE=Run Mann] I've had shy girls open up and relax once in the room they get to know me better and I've had the extroverts in the clubs who know how to play the game and try to take advantage once in the room.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, agree with that RM - its is the shy ones that are often the sly ones. Never had much time for those kind we all recognise in Far Eastern bars and pick-up joints. These are are invariably nice looking but know it, show lots of bare flesh and often have body piercing and tattoo's. They come on really strong, grabbing your tackle and talking trash and match you drink for drink, so you think wow you've really died and gone to heaven and are about to have your rocks n' socks well and truly blown off by this fallen angel when you get her back to your room.

Except that 99/100 you don't. You lock the door and she suddenly changes into a simpering, born again virgin who locks herself in the bathroom and has to have the bathtowel surgically removed and then proceeds to do such a remarkably good impression of a starfish that you feel like a necrophile. Or else, and even worse, she is a controlling, consumate professional ***** who will only let you do what she wants you to do and no more. Very rarely she is exactly what is written on the can and then you know you've won the sex lottery and can preen for weeks on the experience.

In summary, I go for the shy, unassuming types as, it the Philippines its amazing what comes in a plain, brown wrapper.

GH

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Hi Wizard,

Some rules to keep in mind with all of these places. Always chose a girl you have a real deep connection with. Lets face it you can only bang for so long. So in between pops it is nice to have some good company and be pampered a little bit. If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you. The whole point of going to the “PI” is to get a girl you could never get back home and be treated the way you could never be treated by a white woman. A good rule of thumb when you start out is to find a girl you think you could never get and watch how soon she is hanging all over you. That’s when you know you found the right girl. Always discuss everything up front. If you want her to stay all night, specify a time in the morning you want her to leave. Ask what her expectations ($$) are for this amount of time. If you want something more than a bj and lay you had better discuss this upfront. If you are going to take 2 girls make sure they know if you want them to eat each other or both have sex with you rather than just one…..etc.

Good luck and good hunting. And you must post great pics as payment for this valuable info!

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Wizard

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Yeah, agree with that RM - its is the shy ones that are often the sly ones. Never had much time for those kind we all recognise in Far Eastern bars and pick-up joints. These are are invariably nice looking but know it, show lots of bare flesh and often have body piercing and tattoo's. They come on really strong, grabbing your tackle and talking trash and match you drink for drink, so you think wow you've really died and gone to heaven and are about to have your rocks n' socks well and truly blown off by this fallen angel when you get her back to your room.

Except that 99/100 you don't. You lock the door and she suddenly changes into a simpering, born again virgin who locks herself in the bathroom and has to have the bathtowel surgically removed and then proceeds to do such a remarkably good impression of a starfish that you feel like a necrophile. Or else, and even worse, she is a controlling, consumate professional ***** who will only let you do what she wants you to do and no more. Very rarely she is exactly what is written on the can and then you know you've won the sex lottery and can preen for weeks on the experience.

In summary, I go for the shy, unassuming types as, it the Philippines its amazing what comes in a plain, brown wrapper.

GH[/QUOTE]In this case, you would know within an hour of getting her back to your room. It is fairly easy to kick her out, and drag her back to mamasan and demand a refund. It doesnt ALWAYS work, but it DOES work. The last thing a mamasan wants is a girl with a bad reputation.

[QUOTE=Key Master]You sound real green. I think you should go back and reread the Manila and Makati threads just below where you clicked here for General Info in the PI section. There is a lot of information there. If you are in Makati, there are tons of clubs on Burgos and there are some malls in Makati. You can read more about them in the Makati section. You'll read more about LA in Manila section. If you are real shy, you might not do too well in LA or picking up in the malls. You might be better off in the barfine type clubs. Also read up on EDSA complex another girly barfine place.[/QUOTE]I agree 100% with one exception - LA Cafe. I dont care how shy he is, he WILL get approached. LA Cafe (and the other 2 or 3 FL bars nearby) we are the hunted, not the hunter. At least thats been MY experience the 5 or 6 times Ive been there. My suggestion for best success is...as tempting as it is to dress very casual and comfortable (flip flops, shorts, t shirt) I HIGHLY recommend business casual. Khaki's, polo type shirt, and well groomed. You will attract higher class, better looking women. Remember-LA Cafe isnt a BF bar...they CAN say no. And even though they are trolling for extra money, it doesnt mean they dont want a bad looking, ungroomed guy to spend time with.

Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Blackangst]I agree 100% with one exception - LA Cafe. I dont care how shy he is, he WILL get approached. LA Cafe (and the other 2 or 3 FL bars nearby) we are the hunted, not the hunter. At least thats been MY experience the 5 or 6 times Ive been there. My suggestion for best success is...as tempting as it is to dress very casual and comfortable (flip flops, shorts, t shirt) I HIGHLY recommend business casual. Khaki's, polo type shirt, and well groomed. You will attract higher class, better looking women. Remember-LA Cafe isnt a BF bar...they CAN say no. And even though they are trolling for extra money, it doesnt mean they dont want a bad looking, ungroomed guy to spend time with.

Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I am not a flip flop, shorts, tshirt kind of guy, more designer jeans polo or s/s shirt wear guy, so this will not be a problem. I also shave every morning so I do think I would look aproachable...LOL

Thanks for the reply.

Wizard

[QUOTE=Blackangst]Remember-LA Cafe isnt a BF bar...they CAN say no. And even though they are trolling for extra money, it doesnt mean they dont want a bad looking, ungroomed guy to spend time with.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. But even in a BF-bar they can say no.
Or they say menstruation or whatever.
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Blackangst]I agree 100% with one exception - LA Cafe. I dont care how shy he is, he WILL get approached. LA Cafe (and the other 2 or 3 FL bars nearby) we are the hunted, not the hunter. At least thats been MY experience the 5 or 6 times Ive been there. My suggestion for best success is...as tempting as it is to dress very casual and comfortable (flip flops, shorts, t shirt) I HIGHLY recommend business casual. Khaki's, polo type shirt, and well groomed. You will attract higher class, better looking women. Remember-LA Cafe isnt a BF bar...they CAN say no. And even though they are trolling for extra money, it doesnt mean they dont want a bad looking, ungroomed guy to spend time with.

Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

I understand your thinking, but a lot depends on the monger. What are his tastes? If it's high, and it might be if you are a karaoke player, then he might not get approached by certain women if he's not Japanese or Korean looking. If he's real shy, then he might get no play from them if he doesn't initiate. Anyone can get some type of play at LA, but getting certain types, is variable. A lot of the women who go upstairs mainly for the Japanese and Korean clients can seem to be very uninterested and snotty to other people. That's my view. I know some women will approach someone who looks decent or not, but is that person his type?

[QUOTE=Key Master]I understand your thinking, but a lot depends on the monger. What are his tastes? If it's high, and it might be if you are a karaoke player, then he might not get approached by certain women if he's not Japanese or Korean looking. If he's real shy, then he might get no play from them if he doesn't initiate. Anyone can get some type of play at LA, but getting certain types, is variable. A lot of the women who go upstairs mainly for the Japanese and Korean clients can seem to be very uninterested and snotty to other people. That's my view. I know some women will approach someone who looks decent or not, but is that person his type?[/QUOTE]Well, generalities are generally true, thus I posted a generality As far as those who go upstairs for the Korean action. Well, in my experience maybe 10%. And when going upstairs in LA, its off to the far right after coming up the stairs that they gather. I think the generality that the best looking, say 8's and above, mostly go for the Korean action isn't the norm. Of course with ALL FL joints its hit or miss, but that said, all it takes is a smile to get the ball rolling. I'm sure anyone can manage that: p Let me tell you a story as an example of my experience the first time there.

It was in. I think 99 maybe 2000. I was booked in Palm Plaza for business. 2nd time in Manila, first time in Ermita area. In my off time when I've traveled I tend to wander around. So, off I went walking, and stumbled on LA Cafe. Now mind you, the joint across the street (can't remember the name but its owned by LA now) wasnt there. I wandered in, and of course followed the easiest path, which is left of the bar. I grabbed a San Miguel and while waiting to be helped was approached by a couple of the trolls that hang out on that side of the bar. Of course I declined. I grabbed my beer, and went to the back near the pool tables and sat. It was about 6pm or so and was fairly busy. Now, I wasnt a stranger to mongering, but you can't just assume every bar you walk into all over the world is a FL bar, and I made no such assumptions. (As a sidenote, I hadnt read about LA as a pick up joint prior to this). Within about 20 minutes my mongering antennae started tingling. I was just getting "that feeling". A few girls were playing pool and I flirted with them, and a band was warming up upstairs. I decided to check it out. Upstairs was starting to bustle. Man. Lots of nice ladies. Having decided it was a FL bar my thinking changed. I was looking for company for the night I went to the bar just as you get upstairs and ordered another SM, and grabbed a seat just to the right of the bar at a single table. And scanned. Now, I'm not shy per se, but my first time somewhere I always sit back and take it in to get a feel for the place. The "local rules" if you will. A few girls stopped by to say hello, and I made small talk with a few, but most wandered off after 10 minutes or so, as I hadnt seen one that sparked my interest. Yet. Then after oh. Maybe 30 minutes or so I spotted a couple girls sitting along the balcony seats overlooking the stairs. One caught my eye, and I smiled and raised my beer as a "cheers" gesture. She immediately came over to join me. She was easily an 8. We had a few drinks over the next hour or so, and learned she was a student (arent they all? ) but she actually showed me her ID, as she was studying programming, and me as a network engineer was of course interested where she was going. Still unsure if she was. How shall I say. For hire, I simply said "Well, I need to get back to my room. I'd love for you to join me if you arent busy". She said "I would love to". And off we went. Needless to say the rest of the night was absolutely heaven.

The next morning I woke first at about 8 or so, still suprised at this angel in my bed. I smiled remembering what a great we had, not just the sex, but the conversation. The TRUE meaning of GFE. I went into the bathroom and was brushing my teeth, and she appeared in the doorway in one my tshirts. And thats all. Well, round 3 commenced, we showered, and said our goodbyes. Before she left, though, I put some pesos into her purse and made sure she saw me. She just smiled and didn't ask questions. Money hadnt come up ONCE the whole night. I walked her downstairs, kissed her goodbye, and off she went. Total damage including drinks was probably 1000p.

My point to the story is, if you're somewhat decent, a gentleman, and patient, as it sounds like Wizard is, you CAN find an 8 or better without approaching the lady.

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[QUOTE=Key Master]I understand your thinking, but a lot depends on the monger. What are his tastes? If it's high, and it might be if you are a karaoke player, then he might not get approached by certain women if he's not Japanese or Korean looking. If he's real shy, then he might get no play from them if he doesn't initiate. Anyone can get some type of play at LA, but getting certain types, is variable. A lot of the women who go upstairs mainly for the Japanese and Korean clients can seem to be very uninterested and snotty to other people. That's my view. I know some women will approach someone who looks decent or not, but is that person his type?[/QUOTE]

Regarding LA Cafe, it is so easy, even for reticent types. See something you fancy, catch their eye and smile at them. If they are up for it they will smile back (and sometimes come right on over). If they are not they will look away so you look elsewhere. Works for me every time. Unless you look a real slob (flip-flops, union jack shorts and vest barely covering beer gut - shit thats describes me:o), I don't think it matters how you dress as you don't get too many high achievers in the old LA (among the girls that is). GH

[QUOTE=Devils 1]Some rules to keep in mind with all of these places. Always chose a girl you have a real deep connection with. Lets face it you can only bang for so long. So in between pops it is nice to have some good company and be pampered a little bit. If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you. The whole point of going to the “PI” is to get a girl you could never get back home and be treated the way you could never be treated by a white woman. A good rule of thumb when you start out is to find a girl you think you could never get and watch how soon she is hanging all over you. That’s when you know you found the right girl.

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The only problem with the awesome GFE that these cute Filipinas provide is... what if you fall in love?

Like you say, it is so easy to find a girl who is so much more beautiful, young, and affectionate than what you can find at home, it is perhaps only natural that you might fall in love and want to take her home with you!!!

Interesting. What was left unsaid, is that you have to be careful who you make eye contact with. When you walk in the door it seem like holes are drilling thru you. It's kind of delicate trying to find company for the night without attracting unwanted attention from ..., scavengers. Not sure what else to call them. Sorry for being politically incorrect.

My advice is head for an empty table near the ladies room. It's a good place to get started. Or later in the evening, go upstairs.

The funny thing about LA is that I've found some gems in the afternoon. Be careful though, some can't stay the night -- they live (or claim to live) with their parents.

X

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Regarding LA Cafe, it is so easy, even for reticent types. See something you fancy, catch their eye and smile at them. If they are up for it they will smile back (and sometimes come right on over). If they are not they will look away so you look elsewhere. Works for me every time. Unless you look a real slob (flip-flops, union jack shorts and vest barely covering beer gut - shit thats describes me:o), I don't think it matters how you dress as you don't get too many high achievers in the old LA (among the girls that is). GH[/QUOTE]