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I travel from Holland, which (in my case) means anything between 2 hours and 4 hours one way. This also means that there is very little difference for me between going to the smaller clubs in the Ruhrpott (Duisburg, Essen, Bochum, Dortmund) , near Duesseldorf, near the Dutch border or near Cologne. Even going to Hessen is a relatively small extra investment, since I usually don't feel like driving back the same day anyway.
The reason I don't stick to Holland is that good service in general is a lot more difficult to get and I like the set up of spending a whole day in a club and having sex a fewtimes (nothing like that exists in Holland, besides very near the Dutch German border).
What going to different clubs is concerned, you get a much better idea of what is available. From places with exceptional service (including lots of french kissing and oral before you go to a room) to beautiful clubs with many pretty girls to clubs that are party headquarters every night and whatever combination you want. There is probably about a dozen clubs (if not more) that I like to visit and with each and every one I can tell you why I'm going. Sometimes it is nice to have great sex with girls that go all out and sometimes you want to party with cute 18 year olds.
Without wanting to say anything negative about other posters (and I'm not just talking about this forum), it shows when posters only know the one or two clubs they consider 'the best'.
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1437733]The more surprising is the travel time to get to a wide range of clubs separated by significant distances, and even more surprising for me is guys who plan to visit more than one club on the same day. Is the variety so important and so good?[/QUOTE]I'm strictly one club per day myself, guys who do two or more in a day are probably trying to maximize their time on the ground. For them its the hunt, for myself its about relaxation. I'll also visit a club every day even if my trip lasts over two weeks or more. I'll pick a club with great facilities and visit it on a slow day, World is great as an 'off day' club. Free beer, good food, naked girls, indoor and outdoor pool and a great sauna plus a large outdoor area.
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I've been to around 50 different clubs, from small to huge, East to West, North to South, in Germany, Spain, Switzerland. My homebase is (surprise surprise) Hessen. So 80% of my visits go to Hessen clubs. I visit other clubs when I am in the area anyway, mostly on business trips. It's nice for a change. But in the end a club is a club is a club. And the girl are traveling the same way we so. I have to admit I'd love to see NRW pricing in Hessen.
HB
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I'm a 2+ club per day guy. I know most guys don't want to pay the second/third entry fee but since I don't use any of the sauna / pool facilities being at the same club for 12+ hours is a bit much for me. If I lived in Germany I'd be exactly like HB and would have been to every FKK around. Like Breadman says, it's the hunt for me. Looking for the best optifucks I can find. I WILL NOT settle for unattractive girls.
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I'm pretty with Breadman. First there is the legal aspects of it; I don't partake at home or the US. Second, you get a lot more value for hard earn dollars. Lucky for me, my job involves traveling a lot so I accumulate miles faster than I am able to spend it. Once you remove the airfare out of the equation, financially it is a no brainer to monger in Germany. The one exception I would make is mongering in Atlanta or Montreal.
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Where I live there's no problem to find very good looking prostitutes although at higher rates and with more work to do. But what I like is the FKK setup, and that's why I fly to Germany. My pattern is to take a couple of days off and just relax in a big club with nice facilities and lots of girls around just waiting to be picked. My taste is for the young, kinky, suicide girl look possibly in lingerie. Not in the nextdoor kind. Boobs size irrelevant but usually don't like really giant implants. Like it to be away from home because this lets me relax more and take a real break from routine. I'm living this a bit like going to Disneyland, have fun, and then get back to the real world.
If I'm going around alone I tend to stick to habits, so when I find a place that I like and I feel comfortable I tend to stick with that. This and other reasons regarding the city itself (and the ease of getting there) has been keeping me mainly in Berlin in the last period.
I did visit quite a few other places, some more than once, with friends. Oase, Palace, Mainhattan, Bernds, Samya, PSR, Cola, Paradise, a few in Austria, a few in Spain (not FKK). I miss some apparently big / popular names as World and GT, but for now if it's not Artemis it's Palace.
I would like to go visit other places (and while doing that I can visit more than one club a day) , but currently I don't have a trusted wingman and doing it alone would be less fun, unless I happen to be near the place for other reasons.
Kimino
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German Culture
Just curious for those of you that lives in Germany, do you discuss going to FKK clubs openly (like at a water cooler) with your coworker? Do people look at you differently (specially girls) if they find out that you visit FKK club (s)?
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[QUOTE=Breadman;1437799]World is great as an 'off day' club. Free beer, good food, naked girls, indoor and outdoor pool and a great sauna plus a large outdoor area.[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I experienced yesterday.
World has good facilities and sitting downstairs on the sofas close to the pool watching girls coming and going was great. And despite early hours on Sunday there are still enough nice girls to have 1 or 2 sessions.
-K
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[QUOTE=Syzygies;1437719]I would like to know what powers guys to drive or travel really long distances to get to the many different FKK Clubs?[/QUOTE]I have my own related calculus that may give you more input. And help you with your question. I'd also like to hear what others think.
I'm from the USA A weeklong trip costs me at least $2000. Roughly $1000 for the flight, $1000 for everything else. I'll average 2 to 4 a night. I won't go every day though. My appetite isn't that strong. Last time I was there, I was with six women over the course of a week. That's probably $300-$400 per orgasm. I was thinking I could probably pay that and get just as good quality in the USA Plus, my experiences would be more GFE, I'd probably get more time, and I wouldn't have to travel as much. I wouldn't have to use up my vacation. I also like variety as much as the next guy, but each time I've gone to an FKK, I've also sought out repeats, so developing a relationship with a selected few in the USA could work for me.
BUT at FKKs, it's completely legal. I don't need to sneak around. I can get a better read on the women I meet and see if there's chemistry. If there's not chemistry, at least I can enjoy the sight of them. And if I'm wrong. 50 or 60E isn't as devastating as $400. Where else can you sit back and watch the beauties go by for as long as you want? Especially at Oase, you can be outside in the sun and fresh air, have something to eat and something to read. So then the scales tip back in the other direction, and FKKs look like a good way to go for me.
Artemis is quite a bit like Palace, IMO. But I like Palace, I'm not anti-silicon. I do wish there were more outsidey places like Oase though.
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[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1438051]Just curious for those of you that lives in Germany, do you discuss going to FKK clubs openly (like at a water cooler) with your coworker? Do people look at you differently (specially girls) if they find out that you visit FKK club (s)?[/QUOTE]I'm curious about this too, but I think I know. I think it's still not something that's that open. Christianity is still a factor there, and prostitution is still considered sinful, even if it's legal. I'd guess it's a mix of going to the old X-rated theaters in the U. S, or the video store off the freeway and going to the casino or the swing party.
All are legal, but you're not going to tell everyone you went to those places. Depending on the party, all get some opprobrium. The casino and swing party maybe a little less so, because it's social, you might go with others.
Maybe someone who knows Germany better could say.
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Fat women
[QUOTE=Breadman;1437413]Can you provide handles of those who like this kind of action (fat women, not AO seekers) so I can block them? Stretch marks I can work around, 'folds' are a different ball game. The thought of a bunch of these guys all giving a club glowing reviews and then me showing up to check it out only to find whales on the hunt is too scary to fathom.[/QUOTE]I know of no such ISG-members, so there is no one on here for you to block for that reason. (And I don't suppose you read German boards?) If fat women are employed at any clubs, then there must be a reason for it, namely interested customers. I don't think you will find any of them in the major FKK-clubs.
But if there weren't any guys who like those women, then various Swingerclubs wouldn't bother with "Rubens-parties". I also know from a reliable private German source (some woman's boyfriend) that women of Hexe-Bea-stature get up to 300 messages per week on Portals like Poppen de from guys requesting dates or more (!) pictures. I guess a German saying applies here: "Schön ist nicht schön, gefallen macht schön." (Translates as: "Beautiful" isn't beautiful, liking makes beautiful.) It's no use arguing over other people's taste regarding women, therefore it's likewise useless to post any links to pictures of such "whales" for nothing other than the purpose of making fun of them and guys who like them, plus making fun of AO-guys in general while at the same time posting no such links to the good looking women that do AO.
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[QUOTE=Trans Atlantic;1437940]I'm pretty with Breadman. First there is the legal aspects of it; I don't partake at home or the US. Second, you get a lot more value for hard earn dollars. Lucky for me, my job involves traveling a lot so I accumulate miles faster than I am able to spend it. Once you remove the airfare out of the equation, financially it is a no brainer to monger in Germany. The one exception I would make is mongering in Atlanta or Montreal.[/QUOTE]I've heard about Montreal, but what's the word on Atlanta? I'd hate to be caught by the good 'ol boys!
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Most Germans do not openly talk with friends, family or colleagues about consuming paysex, be it escort, street hookers or FKKs. It's not commonly accepted.
HB
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;1438159]I've heard about Montreal, but what's the word on Atlanta? I'd hate to be caught by the good 'ol boys![/QUOTE]I like Atlanta due to a good selection of providers and reviewers. Prices tend to be cheaper than the north east and I like Southern belles.
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[QUOTE=Trans Atlantic;1438234]I like Atlanta due to a good selection of providers and reviewers. Prices tend to be cheaper than the north east and I like Southern belles.[/QUOTE]Ah, thanks. Do you care to share any recommendations?