Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Thatguy865]Well I see no problem with wearing shorts during the day time in Medellin. I have yet to see a women who would not talk to me or my friend who wore shorts. Secondly during the day time, true mongers, and not lovers or sight seers are usually going to casas. So no need to worry about dressing to pay a hoe for pleasure. Night time now thats a different story. Sure pants, jeans, kakhis, and a decent shirt is always the way to go.[/QUOTE]In light of all the suggestions, I am going to bring my worn out chino cargo pants, flip flops, my old t-shirt with a largemouth bass on it, and don my John Deer cap.

Seriously though, I doubt many have traveled as much, as long, or as many places as me, and if so, good on ya', but total conformity is not necessary. I saw some diversity there. There were lots of middle aged men in shorts in Laureles during the day, walking dogs, etc. There were men in sweat suits near the parks and on bikes.

Rather than use every issue on the Medellin board to thrash on "Gringos", "Americans", and "the American Economy", it would be much nicer if some of you guys that have moved there to be a little more honest and look around.

[QUOTE=Client 9]Hi Frank,

You certainly seem like an enthusiastic guy. It would be interesting to meet you someday.

Since you asked for suggestions, I have one for you. Why not open a place in the city of Pereira? Almost every Gringo I know wants to visit Pereira, and almost none of them have visited Pereira.

If you look around this forum, you will see that Gringos on top of Gringos are opening locations around Medellin. As the saying goes, I've seen this movie before.

When I first started visiting Colombia, Cartagena was the popular destination on these forums. Then "Cali Mania" began. Gringos on top of Gringos started opening so-called "marriage agencies" and other locations in Cali. Eventually, it was a bloodbath because there was so much competition. They all went bust.

Now, Medellin is the flavor-of-the-month. My suggestion is to leave Medellin before history repeats itself. Carve out a niche in Pereira where you will have it all to yourself. If you do, maybe you can convince Jackson to add a Pereira forum.

Good luck[/QUOTE]Hi Client 9,

I love Pereira, the women are beautiful and the scenery on the way there is spectacular! I considered buying a property there, but I'm not much for travelling on a regulart basis! That's why I like My Place at La Mayorista, because the girls are just a walk down the Stairs! I'm considering Laureles or El Centro for the same reason!

The people in Pereira are considered Paisas, the last Paisa stronghold away from Medellin! The Clubs are very similar, the women are beautiful! There is a saying in Colombia that if you ask a woman from Pereirea "to sit, she'll lie down instead"! I was only there one night as I was having problems with my ex-girlfriend! I didn't score, but I got a few stairs! Another thing, I've heard Pereira is kind of dangerous becuse of drug dealers and Cali breaking down, I don't know? But the scenery there by bus or car is impressively beautiful!

Frank Casio!

[QUOTE=Schwmmr]Ok fine. I was out out of line. Sorry.

But even now considering the question with a clear head, I'd consider it a valid question only if it's your first trip ever to Latin America.[/QUOTE]Man, look what a shitstorm we stirred up. I was planning to pack just like I do when I go to Costa Rica or Venezuela, but at the last minute I thought I'd ask if there was something special about the Paisa Dress Code that I might want to know.

I didn't end up packing shorts and I kind of which I had, just for walking to the store in the afternoon or whatever. Other than that, jeans and a t-shirt for casual wear and khakis with a collared golf shirt seems to be fine.

I do see lots of gringos dressed like gringos, but half of them have a girl on their arm so it can't hurt them too much. If they get dirty looks there's no way to tell if it is because they are dressed like they are or because they are dining with a gorgeous young paisa.

< Why not open a place in the city of Pereira? Almost every Gringo I know wants to visit Pereira, and almost none of them have visited Pereira. >

Perhaps because there are no direct flights to Pereira. Bogota, Cartagena, Barranquilla and Medellin all can be reached by direct flights.

< If you look around this forum, you will see that Gringos on top of Gringos are opening locations around Medellin. >

Medellin is ten times the size and population of Pereira, therefore offering ten times the opportunities, both in potential patrons, and in SW's. Not to mention restaurants, bars and lodgings.

< My suggestion is to carve out a niche in Pereira where you will have it all to yourself. >

Frank is a successful businessman, and realizes that he must have a client base to succeed. Most pussy hounds coming to Colombia on vacation do not want to waste their limited time making another connection. As an example, coming from Atlanta to Pereira requires a 9 hour overnight in Bogota, either sitting in the terminal or incurring extra transportation and hotel expense.

Reading through the Pereira posts in the 'Other Cities' thread, there aren't that many P4P places there, and it's reported that the women in the Casas charge more than in Medellin.

< If you do, maybe you can convince Jackson to add a Pereira forum. >

This would be nice for those of us that are interested in Pereira, but who would post? How long has it been since the last post about Pereira? Pereira is too far off the Gringo Route to support a My Place. Might be a good place to open a retirement home for active seniors.

Khun Talung

[QUOTE=Client 9]When I meet a Colombian woman that is so ignorant that she cannot respect and adapt to foreign cultures, I dump her. I don't waste my money and limited vacation time on such women. There are another 20 million women in Colombia, and most are very eager to meet foreign men.[/QUOTE]There are 20 million women in Colombia and MOST are very eager to meet foreign men? Jajaja. For a minute there Client 9 I was giving you the benefit of the doubt as far as your credibility goes, but after that statement I must look at you with raised eyebrows. Only a VERY small precentage of the 20 million Colombianas have any interest at all in meeting foreign men. Out of the 20 million Colombianas, many are already married, many are old, many are young children, and for your information, MOST young beautiful Colombian women have ZERO interest in foreign men. Please don't believe the marriage agency hype. They are very content with their Colombian men, thank you very much. Maybe you need to broaden your exposure on your next trip to Colombia. Stay out of the casas, use your fluent Spanish to mingle with regular folks, Colombians of class, then you might see that MOST Colombianas have no interest at all in meeting foreign men.

This is the bus line.

From the airport it takes you to El Centro, Carrera 50A # 53-13. Next the Hotel Botero and across the street from the Casa Puntocon (Geishas 1), Carrera 50A # 53-38.

Hours: From El Centro 4am to 7:30pm

From the Airport 6am to 10pm

[QUOTE=Tom 33]If you think you ATM charges are high, wait until you see the scalping you take changing USD. There are many US banks that charge nothing for ATM withdrawals. CapitalOne is one.

A mini-bus runs from around 5 am to 8 pm from the airport to el Centro. It costs about 6K.

Try Google Earth for street maps. Click "roads. "

MDE is spread out. There is no center of the action although el Centro has the largest concentration of casas.

Taxis are generally good and metered. But you may not want to hail taxis from the street at night or when you are alone. Call for a cab.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bobsthrobbinknob]In light of all the suggestions, I am going to bring my worn out chino cargo pants, flip flops, my old t-shirt with a largemouth bass on it, and don my John Deer cap.

Seriously though, I doubt many have traveled as much, as long, or as many places as me, and if so, good on ya', but total conformity is not necessary. I saw some diversity there. There were lots of middle aged men in shorts in Laureles during the day, walking dogs, etc. There were men in sweat suits near the parks and on bikes.

Rather than use every issue on the Medellin board to thrash on "Gringos", "Americans", and "the American Economy", it would be much nicer if some of you guys that have moved there to be a little more honest and look around.[/QUOTE]Who cares what you look like when you are just wh0remongering? You could be walking around in a potato sack,, Just make sure your wallet is nice and fat with crispy 50mil bills and you will not have a problem getting laid in MDE, NOW if you want to try and hook up with the "hotter"non-pros? I doubt they will give you the time of day with your flip-flops and bass t-shirt, or your REEBOK sneakers with the dirty shoelaces. The Colombana is very materialistic and superficial and more and more are becoming veryvery picky who they choose to give the time of day to... The gringo "NOVELTY" has gone away a long long time ago!

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo]There are 20 million women in Colombia and MOST are very eager to meet foreign men? Jajaja. For a minute there Client 9 I was giving you the benefit of the doubt as far as your credibility goes, but after that statement I must look at you with raised eyebrows. Only a VERY small precentage of the 20 million Colombianas have any interest at all in meeting foreign men. Out of the 20 million Colombianas, many are already married, many are old, many are young children, and for your information, MOST young beautiful Colombian women have ZERO interest in foreign men. Please don't believe the marriage agency hype. They are very content with their Colombian men, thank you very much. Maybe you need to broaden your exposure on your next trip to Colombia. Stay out of the casas, use your fluent Spanish to mingle with regular folks, Colombians of class, then you might see that MOST Colombianas have no interest at all in meeting foreign men.[/QUOTE]
I live in estrato 4 in Medellín and have lived for 6 years in Colombia. Damn near every Colombiana I meet seems to fall all over me. And I am a fat, old guy.

Colombian men in general are mommas boys who cheat on their wives, beat them, and do not provide very well for their families. Even a fat old guy who is not Colombian looks good in comparison. I will grant that a significant minority of Colombianos do not fit this stereotype.

Is every hot, young Colombiana going to beg for your leche?

Hell no. But enough will.

[QUOTE=World Travel 69]This is the bus line.

From the airport it takes you to El Centro, Carrera 50A # 53-13. Next the Hotel Botero and across the street from the Casa Puntocon (Geishas 1), Carrera 50A # 53-38.

Hours: From El Centro 4am to 7:30pm

From the Airport 6am to 10pm[/QUOTE]There is another one leaving from San Diego to Airport and back, until almost 10PM! I got lucky as I was comming out of the airport on my return from Miami a couple weeks ago and the bus stopped right in front of me! I guess he needed one more passenger! I was prepared to pay up to $60, 000cop for a Taxi. And instead I payed $6, 000cop for the bus to San Diego Mall, and $10, 000cop for a Taxi all the way accross town to Envigado!

Good Deal!

Frank Casio!

I tried to pass by thie past Sunday to see if the BBQ is still going on, what happened too many ladies drank you out of business?

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hey guys,

I might be oppenning a My Place ll in Laureles or El Prado-Las Casas ! Can´t make up my mind ! Any suggestions?

Frank Casio ![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ricker]Once again the EXPERT appears.

Did you take a poll of these Colombian women?

Have you spoken with MOST of the young beautiful Colombian women?

You must obviously be living / visiting in a different Colombia than the rest of us.
To say that they are very content with their Colombian men is funny.[/QUOTE]Well, how many do you think are very eager to meet foreign men? Most? I would venture to guess far less than 10%, which would be 2 million women. I would venture to say that 10% is WAY too high. More like 1-2%. At the MOST. So no ricker, I don't need to talk to any of them in order to use my common sense and know that it is a very small percentage, and certainly not most.

Once again Ricker, your exposure to Colombian women is VERY limited. Casa *****s, and the easy non-pros, who, at the end of the day run back to their Colombian boyfriends after you leave town. The VAST majority of Colombian women prefer Colombian men. If that wasn't the case, the marriage agencies and on-line dating services that cater to Colombianas who are eager to meet foreign men would be over-flowing with millions of Colombianas. When in fact, I would venture to say that their memberships don't even come close to 50, 000 or more, and many who are on internet sites are looking for Colombian or other latin men from South American countries. Keep believing the Colombianas when they tell you the bullshit about how they hate Colombian men and prefer gringos. Then look around the next time you go out, anywhere in Colombia. Who are the Colombianas with? Yes, Colombian men. Jaja. And who are the Colombian women fucking when the naive gringo heads back to the states? . Jaja. Very, very few Colombianas marry gringos, in comparison to the number that marry and prefer Colombianos.

Think about it Ricker, just for a second. Use a little common sense. Most gringos come in contact with only a very small precentage of the female Colombian population.

I had a great one hour massage for 40k from Nieta? at the Masajes Japones, in C.C. Villanueva, Calle 57 # 49-44. Room 222. Tel: 251 51 58. Hours: 8am to 8pm.

I was hoping for a happy finish, but did not happen.

It is funny how you do not realize how sore your muscles can get from all the walking, until you get a massage.

Try it, you'll like it.

Oh yes, there were two other chicas there.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo]Well, how many do you think are very eager to meet foreign men? Most? I would venture to guess far less than 10%, which would be 2 million women. I would venture to say that 10% is WAY too high. More like 1-2%. At the MOST. So no ricker, I don't need to talk to any of them in order to use my common sense and know that it is a very small percentage, and certainly not most.

Once again Ricker, your exposure to Colombian women is VERY limited. Casa *****s, and the easy non-pros, who, at the end of the day run back to their Colombian boyfriends after you leave town. The VAST majority of Colombian women prefer Colombian men. If that wasn't the case, the marriage agencies and on-line dating services that cater to Colombianas who are eager to meet foreign men would be over-flowing with millions of Colombianas. When in fact, I would venture to say that their memberships don't even come close to 50, 000 or more, and many who are on internet sites are looking for Colombian or other latin men from South American countries. Keep believing the Colombianas when they tell you the bullshit about how they hate Colombian men and prefer gringos. Then look around the next time you go out, anywhere in Colombia. Who are the Colombianas with? Yes, Colombian men. Jaja. And who are the Colombian women fucking when the naive gringo heads back to the states? . Jaja. Very, very few Colombianas marry gringos, in comparison to the number that marry and prefer Colombianos.

Think about it Ricker, just for a second. Use a little common sense. Most gringos come in contact with only a very small precentage of the female Colombian population.[/QUOTE]Not to dispute all that you've posted but the fact is, most Colombian Internet based marriage agencies fail not because they don't have enough girls, but that many of these girls, if not most, don't have Internet access at home. And with Colombian girls constantly losing cell phones, changing numbers. Etc they simply become unreachable.

I once had 45 paisas on my msn list and it wasn't unusual for some to log on maybe once a month when they had time/money to go to an Internet cafe. I can only speak for myself, but the impression I've seen is that foreign men do have some appeal beyond the P4P arena, whether that's a small sample or indicative of a bigger trend, I have to believe that soem of the paisas that took my to their homes would've gone with me to the airport THAT DAY if it meant they could begin a new life elsewhere, local novios be damned.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Well, I'd have to respectfully disagree.

Of course Colombian women aren't going to fall all over you just because you're a foreigner, but MOST young Colombian women are NOT very content with their Colombian men, and would be VERY interested in meeting a man from abroad, especially if he presented himself properly.[/QUOTE]I agree with Ricker on this one. I'm 52 yrs. old, a bit overweight but I dress appropriately,speak decent but far from perfect spanish and not to pat myself on the back or anything but I have young hot Colombianas interested in me wherever I go and it is because of what Ricker has said many times and that is to treat the girls like human beings,speak some spanish,make them laugh,show some interest in them other than their sex and you'll have them eating out of your hand.

I must admit I am partial to the smaller cities like Armenia,Perriera and of course the crown jewel Manizales but I have been to Bogota,Cartagena and Medellin. For sure I am better off in the smaller cities as girls will talk to me just because I am a gringo,many girls in these cities have never met a guy from the U.S., I went to a party at mi novia's friends house two days ago and I was kind of like a circus freak as the girls were lining up to dance with me because none of them had ever met a gringo. In the bigger cities you will run into some hardcore chicas that won't show you any respect no matter what you do but they are the exception to the 20 million.

Just my opinion of course.

[QUOTE=Nino Bravo]Well, how many do you think are very eager to meet foreign men? Most? I would venture to guess far less than 10%, which would be 2 million women. I would venture to say that 10% is WAY too high. More like 1-2%. At the MOST. So no ricker, I don't need to talk to any of them in order to use my common sense and know that it is a very small percentage, and certainly not most.

Once again Ricker, your exposure to Colombian women is VERY limited. Casa *****s, and the easy non-pros, who, at the end of the day run back to their Colombian boyfriends after you leave town. The VAST majority of Colombian women prefer Colombian men. If that wasn't the case, the marriage agencies and on-line dating services that cater to Colombianas who are eager to meet foreign men would be over-flowing with millions of Colombianas. When in fact, I would venture to say that their memberships don't even come close to 50, 000 or more, and many who are on internet sites are looking for Colombian or other latin men from South American countries. Keep believing the Colombianas when they tell you the bullshit about how they hate Colombian men and prefer gringos. Then look around the next time you go out, anywhere in Colombia. Who are the Colombianas with? Yes, Colombian men. Jaja. And who are the Colombian women fucking when the naive gringo heads back to the states? . Jaja. Very, very few Colombianas marry gringos, in comparison to the number that marry and prefer Colombianos.

Think about it Ricker, just for a second. Use a little common sense. Most gringos come in contact with only a very small precentage of the female Colombian population.[/QUOTE]"Once again Ricker, your exposure to Colombian women is VERY limited. Casa *****s, and the easy non-pros, who, at the end of the day run back to their Colombian boyfriends after you leave town."

Dude,you obviously don't know Ricker if you are saying stupid shit like this....