Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Junior;2072992]I have been going to Rio for about 15 years and have learned to speak portuguese.

IMHO, the pro scene has never been weaker than it is now, but on the other hand my access to non-pros have never been better thanks to a number of brazilian friends.

Fewer tourists and a significant drop in demand from locals have made many businesses unsustainable and I am sure more closures lie ahead.[/QUOTE]God point Junior and I agree. In the 4. 5 years I've been comin the transformation I've been through in terms of non-pros has risen with language and cultural knowledge.

So if Rio goes down the drain p4 p wise well be allright.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2072805]My experience has been thatthe terma girls want the same rate in your apartment that you would pay fro 1 hour in the terma. Kinda defeats the purpose of having them over if I have to pay the same amount. I might ask some of the prive / massage girls over and see what they say in terms of time and money on my next trip.[/QUOTE]You absolutely should ask them back and no need to pay what the termas charge.

You shouldn't be clockwatching in the crib eityher-if they dig you and the chemistry is there.

I would never bring a girl to the crib to do the terma 60 min clock watch. Gtfooh!

Trick is you have to treat them well so they like you at work.

Secondly don't forget that in termas they don't earn what you pay, they earn that minus what terma takes in comission so half maybe.

Minus room, entrada and sometimes a weekly fee to maintain spot (allthough maybe this practise is fading in line with economy).

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2073014]Have been to Brazil 2 times.

Rio and SP.

RIO thermas my favorite and had a good time at MC and Solarium (hated Centauraus). Mostly MC fan.

This time I have Saturday to Saturday time 7-8 days.

I am planning to spend 2-3 days in Rio. Between MC /4 x4. Have never been to 4 x4. Is it worth it. I like more of the slim big tops, fairer skinned girls. (what is the working hours here and any cost info / breakups).

(yes, I read the Forum. And I have a collected tips as much as possible. ISG is a treasure).

I am considering 1-2 days in Porto Alegro and 1-2 days in SP.

Is this plan too much. Any guidance.

I aways stay at Rio Othon next door to MC. I am in touch with some Barberralla girls from the past and they suggested to go to a "Love Motel" for 3 some feast.

I have not booked any hotels / local flights yet.

Which hotel in Rio will you recommend if I want to cover good thermas. (not a big fan of massage places. But will love some recommendations).

Or should I get to copa aparments. I do want to bring some one back to the room but always worried for personal safety in an apartment.

Should I even tire myself going to SP and POA? Any words of wisdom.

POA I heard has more Caucasian looking girls. What are good mongering spots there?

SP. I have used ABG in the past and that is a safe bet for me for short window time. And I am well covered as I also have some numbers.

Any guidance from the senior folks?[/QUOTE]Why do you stay at Othon when it isn't GF and yet you want to bring girls back but feel uncomfortable in apartment?

Go to a GF hotel like Best Western, IBIS etc and make res for 2 and check girls in and out. If they arent overnighters you don't even need to check them in.

4 x 4 has most kinds of girls. Fcuk before 6 pm and 50 reais entrada is waived.

Price for 1 hour was like 380 I think last time?

Komo753? Corrections?

Seems SP is poppin for the fair skinned white girls so maybe you shd go to SP and Rio equally.

Rio fell off and MC too-however you sound like a Solarium type dude with the fair skinnned girls in the majority so maybe try that as well.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2073279]You absolutely should ask them back and no need to pay what the termas charge.

You shouldn't be clockwatching in the crib eityher-if they dig you and the chemistry is there.

I would never bring a girl to the crib to do the terma 60 min clock watch. Gtfooh!

Trick is you have to treat them well so they like you at work.

Secondly don't forget that in termas they don't earn what you pay, they earn that minus what terma takes in comission so half maybe.

Minus room, entrada and sometimes a weekly fee to maintain spot (allthough maybe this practise is fading in line with economy).[/QUOTE]They earn 230 reais per one hour session in 4 by 4.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2073280]Why do you stay at Othon when it isn't GF and yet you want to bring girls back but feel uncomfortable in apartment?

Go to a GF hotel like Best Western, IBIS etc and make res for 2 and check girls in and out. If they arent overnighters you don't even need to check them in.

4 x 4 has most kinds of girls. Fcuk before 6 pm and 50 reais entrada is waived.

Price for 1 hour was like 380 I think last time?

Komo753? Corrections?

Seems SP is poppin for the fair skinned white girls so maybe you shd go to SP and Rio equally.

Rio fell off and MC too-however you sound like a Solarium type dude with the fair skinnned girls in the majority so maybe try that as well.[/QUOTE]The price is 360 reais one hour, the 50 reais entrance is waived if you session before 6pm, 4 by 4 is way better than solarium, the room is bigger and the terma is bigger, solarium 110 reais entrance without consumption and over 500 reais just 40 minutes, better to keep the money for sao paulo, for that price I can have my girl all night in sao paulo, 4 by4 there are always new talents like yesterday I saw 4 skinny girls, 40 and something kilos, it is not common in Rio de Janeiro.

[QUOTE=Komo753;2073306]They earn 230 reais per one hour session in 4 by 4.[/QUOTE]So they shouldn't get paid more than 250 reais to me tops. Better yet find them in cheaper spots so theres even less financial reason not to come to apartment for less.

Key is portugues like at Mabs-as soon as you respond in fluent portugues in small talk they won't come with the big price tag.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2073280]Why do you stay at Othon when it isn't GF and yet you want to bring girls back but feel uncomfortable in apartment?

Go to a GF hotel like Best Western, IBIS etc and make res for 2 and check girls in and out. If they arent overnighters you don't even need to check them in.

4 x 4 has most kinds of girls. Fcuk before 6 pm and 50 reais entrada is waived.

Price for 1 hour was like 380 I think last time?

Komo753? Corrections?

Seems SP is poppin for the fair skinned white girls so maybe you shd go to SP and Rio equally.

Rio fell off and MC too-however you sound like a Solarium type dude with the fair skinnned girls in the majority so maybe try that as well.[/QUOTE]Thank you. Last time I stayed at Rio Othon and it was comfortable with MC being in next door. I did take 1 girl at around 2 am and no trouble. May be the guy didn't spot me. (from Barbarella). Hence I thought they were GF. Let me check on Bestwestern then. The apartments. I read in different forums, sometimes the door man can be a problem. The other thing is. When you get a girl to your apartment, will she give you other "headaches". Of security issues. But I like the idea though. My old girl from MC told me, stay in Rio Othon and then get a love motel for action only. But couldn't find many near copa.

My plan is.

Saturday MC / Solarium.

Sunday. Arranged my old girl via whatsapp.

Monday 4 x 4 during day time. (do they open at 11? If I went there in the morning. Do they have lunch / food etc.)- 380 in 4 x 4. Last time in MC I think it was 330 per hour. So maybe they also went up.

Wednesday. Fly out to either POA or to SP.

Hmm. My friendly MC is going down? Sad to hear that.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2073372]So they shouldn't get paid more than 250 reais to me tops. Better yet find them in cheaper spots so theres even less financial reason not to come to apartment for less.
Key is portugues like at Mabs-as soon as you respond in fluent portugues in small talk they won't come with the big price tag.[/QUOTE]Work on the game and tell them to come to your place, easy as pie for a terma girl. Fucked a few for free after sampling the good at the terma first. Only cost a fe wdrink, which I already had in the fridge.

Forget about Mabs. Mud ducks can be found there. Bottom of the barrel. And I speak Porto, plus American english, Spanish, Italian, and some Thai.

[QUOTE=MRusa007;2073014]POA I heard has more Caucasian looking girls. What are good mongering spots there?[/QUOTE]
For those who hasn't memorized the 4000 airport abbreviations of Brazil, POA is the airport of Porto Alegre...

Quick update;.

Hit a couple boates in Centro yesterday evening, not much to brag about really, found a regular at U24 who treats me very good, had a nice time with her.

Went back after dinner, place was over-packed, so I grabbed a taxi to VM.

The taxi driver was bitching about Uber guys all the way to VM, I acted ignorant. LOL.

VM was a little slow, but way more girls than guys.

Met one new mulata, 24 years old, thin, nice booty and a beautiful smile.

Interesting enough, we went up to go the room, and as discussed previously, they were nasty.

She said, for 10 R mais, we can grab the suite, and of course I said, com certeza!

It still wasn't anything elegant, but it was clean, big bed, new sheets, window AC, and a bathroom.

It was another floor up, I didn't know it existed, and she said rarely used cause the guys don't want to pay an extra 10 R.

Obviously well worth it.

Great time! Muito carinhosa.

By now I was a bit tired, drinking a Gatorade, chillin, about to leave when I see this girl pop out of a taxi and walk to one of the bars.

For the guys diggin the fair skin girls, she was sexy, thin, about 40-45 kg, but with a pretty nice booty for a magrinha.

We chat a bit, she only works when rent is due and she can't pay it.

Got a second wind and had another great time with her.

Room was a little shabby, not nasty though.

Got spoiled by the previous suite.

I'm more into the mulatas, but got her on the WhatsApp now for some fun at my pad.

Great girl.

Overall pretty good night.

Centro bars were slow, VM did me right.

P.S., caught my Uber home, near Mosaico, didn't go in, but saw some pretty good lookers hanging out on the outside area there.

[QUOTE=Bravo;2072805]My experience has been thatthe terma girls want the same rate in your apartment that you would pay fro 1 hour in the terma. Kinda defeats the purpose of having them over if I have to pay the same amount. I might ask some of the prive / massage girls over and see what they say in terms of time and money on my next trip.[/QUOTE]Only because your game is weak,. They can have the SAME price! The price for the Actual session, not including the room price. Figure the shit out.

I have had few girls come over from 4 x4. 1 girl fucked me for 100 reals including ass with 2 pops on a Saturday afternoon, and that for a short time 2 hours /2 pops. Another one fucked me all night for 150. In fact, the night I saw her at 4 x4, I was going with another girl. I told her I she came come to my place after work. AND she did come. She met me outside after 12.00, we went to eat in Centro. Had some Frango a Passarinho, fries and beer. Then I had everything, including her ass. And the next day in the afternoon.

If you can't get a terma girl to go with you for HER portion of the price, then that's your problem.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2072791]When there's chemistry, why aren't more guys inviting the terma and clinica girls back to their apartments on their off time? It's easy to make it more lucrative than their time at the terma or clinica. Many of the terma girls are young and unattached. 4 x4 girls are great because they have weekends off. Yes, I am very well of no shows, but I have had more success than failures.
Me thinks, most foreign mongers are lazy, don't learn a lick of Portuguese and think knocking on the door of a clinica is hard work. A little charm, a little Portuguese and a little money go a long way.[/QUOTE]Exactly. NO need to reinvent the wheel.

Good for you. Keep on with your success. I think the same as you.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2073279]You absolutely should ask them back and no need to pay what the termas charge.
You shouldn't be clockwatching in the crib eityher-if they dig you and the chemistry is there.
I would never bring a girl to the crib to do the terma 60 min clock watch. Gtfooh!
... Secondly don't forget that in termas they don't earn what you pay, they earn that minus what terma takes in comission so half maybe.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And yet, you have to explain some 'common sense' things to the slow people. This is NOT rocket science. I'm glad some of US can actually think.

[QUOTE=PipeLayer99;2074526]Only because your game is weak,. They can have the SAME price! The price for the Actual session, not including the room price. Figure the shit out.

I have had few girls come over from 4 x4. 1 girl fucked me for 100 reals including ass with 2 pops on a Saturday afternoon, and that for a short time 2 hours /2 pops. Another one fucked me all night for 150. In fact, the night I saw her at 4 x4, I was going with another girl. I told her I she came come to my place after work. AND she did come. She met me outside after 12.00, we went to eat in Centro. Had some Frango a Passarinho, fries and beer. Then I had everything, including her ass. And the next day in the afternoon.

If you can't get a terma girl to go with you for HER portion of the price, then that's your problem.[/QUOTE]Exactly. We are all on the same page. A girl at Afrodite trash club I had once wanted to come over.

She wasnt the coolest girl but a hot one in quarto-body nuts-i commited the cardinal drunk sin of not interviewing alot-just grabbed her cause she was hot-spoke for a bit. I was drunk so it was cool cool but I couldn't remember too much about her as a person.(dont psychoanalyze after 5 caipirinhas)-it was nice session though.

I told her on the phone "you make 150 an hour at Afrodite minus what they take which prob aint much but you prob bag a 100 an hour".

So ID give her 150.

She was cool with it and we agreed it for a couple hours +-no rush -no probem she said.

She switched on me right before leaving home that it wd be for 1 hour-I said I need 2 + or no deal. Then she started sayin 250 for 2 hours and that she was ready to come now.

I told her straight I didn't like her pushy vibe and that meant she most likely wd be pushy to get wrapped up too in my place.

Simple psychology.

Without past experiences good and bad I wouldn't have responded like that.

Hope this assists some nervous newbies.

I cancelled and brought over a non-pro from Jacarepagua off Cupid I had slept with already who works at The Marriott near Barra and was happy to stay the night w CIM etc.

She isn't as hot looking as Afrodite girl but the experience was much better as she's a cool ass friendly good hearted girl and less stress.

Same with an indigena I had at mv30-she's very sexy, good kisser etc. Session was cool in mv-but I felt there was more to come.

Next time I made her wait till it was too late to do a long session and did a short one to see what she wd be like.

She was much better.

I haggled with her about an all nighter -she was saying 400/500-I laughed.

I told her that she makes 180 an hour there tops so tryina charge me gringo prices meant she not diggin me like I dig her so lets leave it.

She calls me one day and has had a fight-her face is scratched-she can't go to work-has no food etc.

I said you can come for 200.

She agreed happily-- bb and CIM. Stayed 6 hours.

I bought her sth from the kilo.

Next time she stayed the night for 200 at IBIS. Great time.

Last time she was back on the story-telling-wanted to visit her mom in Porto Velho-needed to buy plane ticket.

I said you can fuck for the ticket but ill only pay half ticket-250-its almost Xmas-i was weak-shd have just said 200 all in all night.

I come back to Rio 6 months later-she still hasnt left yet!!loooool.

Anyway -moral of the story is-they all got stories-even the cool ones can go south. Some are cool for years then dissapear. Some you get tired off. Etc.

Its all in the game.

A gdp is a gdp. Some will hit you off a freebie or 2-then ask for you to come see em at work-balance it out.Some will get a bit attached to you and then expect you to help like a bf etc etc

It happens.Some will stay 3/4 days for nothing but food/drinks if they fall a bit for you..then wake up to reality.Happened twice with one from Cancun and one from MC.

You cant expect them to not work so its all fair.

Live life and keep note.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;2074551]Exactly. We are all on the same page. A girl at Afrodite trash club I had once wanted to come over.
I told her on the phone "you make 150 an hour at Afrodite minus what they take which prob aint much but you prob bag a 100 an hour".
So ID give her 150.[/QUOTE]Exactly my point. If some idiot, who has been to Rio before can't figure it out. Well, there you go. They simply have no game, or lack intelligence. That's why they get quoted the SAME price from the terma!