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[QUOTE=Jinxx;2447446]She lived in Mexico and she worked as a physical education teacher at a primary school in Ciudad Juarez. Teachers in the US barely make enough to survive so I can imagine what a primary school PE teacher in Mexico makes, probably less than the US minimum wage.

How in the world did you come to the conclusion that "it just sounded like they liked Mexico"? Huh? What? We're not talking about white sandy beaches of Cancun or Cabo San Lucas. Ciudad Juarez is an ugly ass, mega dangerous, semi war zone, hell hole. This guy is a good looking guy with money. He was only in Juarez to be with her, because that's her home, and they were quarantining together.

And yes I'm thinking that there's a good chance that she has a "prior boyfriend" with big dinero who paid for her fancy vacations. And whether he was a narco or not, it's probably not difficult for a jealous local guy with money to arrange a hit on some outsider who's in town shacked up with his gorgeous ex novia.[/QUOTE]I had read only 1 article and it said she was from Texas. But ok so he was in mexico for her. Not a good move. Probably he wasnt well read up on Juarez crime news. But plenty people go to Tijuana to check it out, I see them on the trolley. Tijuana is it's own nightmare. 2018 was the most deadly city in the world. Not sure who won 2019. Tijuana elementary school teachers make enough to rent a house have internet cell phones do uber and raise 3 kids without a baby daddy help. And qualify for visa to USA. So they must make at least 20 k. Teachers in nyc suburbs make 140 grand. I know they were making 120 grand 20 years ago. For all I know it's up to 160 grand. But has to be up to 135 grand minimum. That's without doing after school teams etc. Those types easily hit 160 grand.

When is your best guess for Tijuana and all the big bars / strip clubs reopening?

I think by Summer everything will be open.

Booked a flight from Chicago to San Diego in July for less than one session with a bar girl hottie would cost.

Went down today to see my regular. Was not stopped or asked questions by MX border agents on the way down by auto through San Ysidro. Returned through Otay Mesa SENTRI, asked "Where are you going?" and "Do you have anything to declare?" Wait time was approximately 2 minutes. Ready lane was reported at about 100 minutes. Passed by a few love motels. Those that didn't have enclosed garages looked busy. Called Motel Via a few days ago and was told they were operating and no problems if foreigners wanted to stay there.

A lot of you are very testy and have nothing to do but argue about politics. I suggest going and taking advantage of the sure-to-be-had deals.

[QUOTE=Rainman306;2447686]When is your best guess for Tijuana and all the big bars / strip clubs reopening?

I think by Summer everything will be open.

Booked a flight from Chicago to San Diego in July for less than one session with a bar girl hottie would cost.[/QUOTE]The government announced on April 16 that it will restrict transportation between areas of the country that are infected with COVID-19 (mostly large cities) and areas that are not infected, without specifying what areas are included or how it will be enforced. President Lpez Obrador also said that based upon current projections, the 979 municipalities that have not had reported cases of coronavirus will be able to reopen schools and workplaces on May 17; the date is June 1 for the 463 municipalities that have. The elderly and other vulnerable groups will still be requested to stay home, and physical distancing should remain in place until May 30. It is expected that the pandemic will end in the metropolitan area on June 25th.

[QUOTE=DickusMaximus;2447687]A lot of you are very testy and have nothing to do but argue about politics. I suggest going and taking advantage of the sure-to-be-had deals.[/QUOTE]A lot of us don't want to die from the virus. Or give it to someone else who would die.

[QUOTE=Rainman306;2447686]When is your best guess for Tijuana and all the big bars / strip clubs reopening?

I think by Summer everything will be open.

Booked a flight from Chicago to San Diego in July for less than one session with a bar girl hottie would cost.[/QUOTE]I think tijuana bars restaurants will open by June 1 to 15th. If hk is not open within a week or two from then, then I'd guess it won't open for many many months. If someone in mexico with leverage decides it's good opportunity to end prostitution for a little while, or long while, or forever they will jump on this opportunity. That's how everything is going in the states, everyone's using the covid to get what they always wanted. But mexico needs money they will look at the truth, the stats, and decide based on real world data, unlike usa which uses emotion. Mexico doesn't have the $$ to stay closed just for emotional comfort. The data tells us, cures, vaccines are years off, hospitals have plenty respirators, this disease won't vanish from hiding, the death rate is around 1 in 700 who get the disease, half will be nursing home aged people. That's not high enough death rate to keep any country closed unless its rich like USA thinks it is.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2447696]The data tells us, cures, vaccines are years off, hospitals have plenty respirators, this disease won't vanish from hiding, the death rate is around 1 in 700 who get the disease, half will be nursing home aged people. That's not high enough death rate to keep any country closed unless its rich like USA thinks it is.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you are saying here, but you seem to be giving a clearly wrong statistic. The Death Rate is not around 1 in 700 but instead much worse and more deadly. Probably more like 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 who show up at the hospital infected, will not survive.

There are already 63,733 dead in the United States. Try to apply the 1 in 700 statistic. It would mean there was 44,613,100 people infected in the United States, and that would grow as the death rate rose.

I agree that the 1. 1 million confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States is an under count of the real number of infected American residents. But that number is not as high as 44 million (1 in 7).

12,500 people have died in New York City. That does not mean there are 8,750,000 infected people in the Big Apple. Hell, in year 2018 their total population was only 8.4 million!

More like 1 in 20, not 1 in 700.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2447696]I think tijuana bars restaurants will open by June 1 to 15th. If hk is not open within a week or two from then, then I'd guess it won't open for many many months. If someone in mexico with leverage decides it's good opportunity to end prostitution for a little while, or long while, or forever they will jump on this opportunity. That's how everything is going in the states, everyone's using the covid to get what they always wanted. But mexico needs money they will look at the truth, the stats, and decide based on real world data, unlike usa which uses emotion. Mexico doesn't have the $$ to stay closed just for emotional comfort. The data tells us, cures, vaccines are years off, hospitals have plenty respirators, this disease won't vanish from hiding, the death rate is around 1 in 700 who get the disease, half will be nursing home aged people. That's not high enough death rate to keep any country closed unless its rich like USA thinks it is.[/QUOTE]Your point about leverage reminds me of when Club Help got closed in Rio. You'd never think a cash cow like Help could suddenly close but this happened before the Olympics came to Rio. I'm guessing that the Olympics provided a stronger financial incentive (such as corporate sponsorship) for Rio to change its image as a sex tourism destination.

I'm not sure if Tijuana has any circumstance that incentivizes a change in scenery so to speak. But I could be wrong because I know very little about Tijuana and its political landscape.

[QUOTE=WombatEd2;2447693]A lot of us don't want to die from the virus. Or give it to someone else who would die.[/QUOTE]Give the doom and gloom a rest already. You should sense from responses to your posts in the various Tijuana threads that people are tired of your act.

What I heard was Chloroquine was more effective at early stages but once the person is in the later stages it did not prove to be effective. So gee. You think we should have had our testing shit in gear?

We can't even take advantage of the drugs we find helpful in a meaningful way.

[QUOTE=Travv;2447648]Background: Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by a newly discovered coronavirus (SARS-CoV). No effective prophylactic or post-exposure therapy is currently available.

Results: We report, however, that chloroquine has strong antiviral effects on SARS-CoV infection of primate cells. These inhibitory effects are observed when the cells are treated with the drug either before or after exposure to the virus, suggesting both prophylactic and therapeutic advantage. In addition to the well-known functions of chloroquine such as elevations of endosomal pH, the drug appears to interfere with terminal glycosylation of the cellular receptor, angiotensin-converting enzyme 2. This may negatively influence the virus-receptor binding and abrogate the infection, with further ramifications by the elevation of vesicular pH, resulting in the inhibition of infection and spread of SARS CoV at clinically admissible concentrations.

Conclusion: Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.[/QUOTE]

Fed Social Distance order expired. California Stay at Home Order in place till May 15.

[QUOTE=BodyAnybody;2447437]I can confirm that I've had no issue entering Mexico at the Andrade port of entry to LOS Algodones. Last Friday I was able to enter Mexico at San Luis Rio Colorado, but the next morning when I was coming back to the US, [\b]CBP held me for nearly 2 hours and gave me a ration of shit before letting me go. [/b]Honestly, I attribute this to them having a lot of spare time since the port is so dead. I plan to visit Los Algodones again this Saturday for an overnight with my regular girl, so I'll update this thread when it happens.[/QUOTE]

How much will a disease spread?

The formal definition of a disease's R0 is the number of cases, on average, an infected person will cause during their infectious period.

The term is used in two different ways.

The basic reproduction number represents the maximum epidemic potential of a pathogen. It describes what would happen if an infectious person were to enter a fully susceptible community, and therefore is an estimate based on an idealized scenario.

The effective reproduction number depends on the population's current susceptibility. This measure of transmission potential is likely lower than the basic reproduction number, based on factors like whether some of the people are vaccinated against the disease, or whether some people have immunity due to prior exposure with the pathogen. Therefore, the effective R0 changes over time and is an estimate based on a more realistic situation within the population.

It's important to realize that both the basic and effective R0 are situation-dependent. It's affected by the properties of the pathogen, such as how infectious it is. It's affected by the host population – for instance, how susceptible people are due to nutritional status or other illnesses that may compromise one's immune system. And it's affected by the environment, including things like demographics, socioeconomic and climatic factors.

For example, R0 for measles ranges from 12 to 18, depending on factors like population density and life expectancy. This is a large R0, mainly because the measles virus is highly infectious.

On the other hand, the influenza virus is less infectious, with its R0 ranging from 2 to 3. Influenza, therefore, doesn't cause the same explosive outbreaks as measles, but it persists due to its ability to mutate and evade the human immune system.

Finally, and likely the most important reason, no one knows the future impacts of current disease control measures. Epidemiologists' current estimates of R0 say nothing about how measures such as travel restrictions, social distancing and self-quarantine efforts will influence the virus's continued spread.

Re: Google Search "R0".

[QUOTE=Rainman306;2447686]When is your best guess for Tijuana and all the big bars / strip clubs reopening?

I think by Summer everything will be open.

Booked a flight from Chicago to San Diego in July for less than one session with a bar girl hottie would cost.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KillsMexicanas;2447710]Give the doom and gloom a rest already. You should sense from responses to your posts in the various Tijuana threads that people are tired of your act.[/QUOTE]Dude, if you want to play Russian roulette, that's your business. But so long as you continue to proclaim your right to endanger the lives of others. Shame on you.

[QUOTE=Slicker;2447709]Your point about leverage reminds me of when Club Help got closed in Rio. [/QUOTE]HELP was the most off the hook club in the universe! Three cavernous rooms, each with great bars, different music, and hundreds of gorgeous, riotous, partying chicks singing all at once "Fuck you, you working girl, I don't want you back".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptcX5L8chVc[/URL]

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2447706]I'm not sure what you are saying here, but you seem to be giving a clearly wrong statistic. The Death Rate is not around 1 in 700 but instead much worse and more deadly. Probably more like 1 in 10 or 1 in 20 who show up at the hospital infected, will not survive.

There are already 63,733 dead in the United States. Try to apply the 1 in 700 statistic. It would mean there was 44,613,100 people infected in the United States, and that would grow as the death rate rose.

I agree that the 1. 1 million confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States is an under count of the real number of infected American residents. But that number is not as high as 44 million (1 in 7).

12,500 people have died in New York City. That does not mean there are 8,750,000 infected people in the Big Apple. Hell, in year 2018 their total population was only 8.4 million!

More like 1 in 20, not 1 in 700.[/QUOTE]I was incorrect. Right now, just in usa, based on random testing in a California town the death rate was less than half of 1%. So if 230 people got coronavirus 1 would die roughly. Let's assume, that's acurate for USA, and let's asume, 2/3 rds of the usa population needs to get this, before the disease slows down, . Yeah that's alot dead people. Massive amount. The question going forward, do we live like this, slow death rate, or let it happen. We can stay shuttered down if the fed government can pay everyone for 3,4,. 8,9 years. If the government only has enough money to keep bailing every business out for 2 or 4 months, than we have to face the music on few months anyway. NyS is out of money. Can fed government bail all these states people and businesses long term? How long can mexico survive staying closed?