FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2138041]Mila was quite on the hyper side, was very chatty but was quiet when she needed to be. Esther is one of the reasons I pay trans-Atlantic rates for my pussy, she is the ' anti-TX' hooker, she is everything and than some of what we can not get back home.

I actually did get a chance to meet Betty as I was talking to a friend of hers after I had just finished a room. She was a cute girl (sort of had a two toned hair at the time part blond part dark) but I saw her turning guys down, she must have turned down three guys who tried to talk to her but I do remember her being very nice to some guy giving out hard candies but she seemed disinterested in the guys with money. It reminded me of a day at Dietz when guys with hard dicks and cash were standing around helplessly as the girls were more interested in chain smoking and talking to themselves than getting money. I guess Betty must have had a great day to be turning guys away.[/QUOTE]The girls have the choice to refuse the man as we refuse some girls, usually it is for guys demanding too much for 50 euros or guys asking special things in the room she doesn't do.

Or simple guys stressing them with price negotiations. Personality in 13 years only one girl refused me, it was in Oase but after her friends told me she has mental problems I think so because after she came 10 times to me just because she doesn't remember it.

[QUOTE=Gonzo88;2137772]Went for 2 sessions with Aphrodite (ROM) and one Dominika (Hun). Both were excellent, but were basic, 50 Euro half hour sessions. Neither tried to upsell or gave me an grief about 1 hour.
Aphrodite is slim, with a pretty face, medium length brown hair, pointy nose, and very small boobs. She is very relaxed and quite affectionate in the room. [/QUOTE]I went with Aphrodite last summer. She upsold me 1 HR /100 E for DATY. I usually do only 50E 1/2 hr sessions.

Have still 5 entries remaining on my VIP card so gave a new try to Shark, many girls present but always the same one, so many guys from outside Germany, few Asian guys. Tried 2 new girls, no BBBJ very poor CBJ, no kissing nothing interesting yes it was 50 euro sessions but it is better to go in the RLD in Frankfurt. Most of the girls not happy due to slow business in the recent days, guys full of negative testosterone, mostly incapable to control their basic instinct, in the locker heard 4 Turkish guys speaking so badly about the Roumania girls that they fucked in their ass that I just wanted to vomit. After my card is completed I will never come back to this place, no erotic, no door policy nothing that will be able to create a nice atmosphere in which girls and mongers will be happy.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138007]McAdonis,

Good advice.[/QUOTE]My advice is not only directed at the mongers trying a WG for the first time, but also the big spenders who repeat their favorites. Yes, these princesses may have a few FB photos of them on a yacht, but I doubt these WGs can pull this type of customer on a regular basis. If you get past all the exaggeration, embellishment, and lies, you may find out that you are one of her best-paying customers which means you have leverage to negotiate.

Remember, these WGs are in sales where it is common to adopt a "fake it until they make it" mentality:

[URL]https://youtu.be/7G5EXhc6XZs[/URL]

Flaunting her rich clients does a few things (1) encourages you to increase / maintain spending to compete for her interest, (2) makes you feel special because those rich guys are just suckers whereas she likes you so you get that special price. As this article discusses, "anchoring effect" is a classic retail con. Customers are offered "discounts" when in fact they are still overspending without knowing it.

[URL]https://youarenotsosmart.com/2010/07/27/anchoring-effect/[/URL]

Angelina "Egyptian" will only hit you in the balls, if you waste her time. Seen this one American guy who was too polite with her. He put his arm around her waist. Answered her questions. Then said "No" when the room question came up 2-3 minutes later. She crushed the balls of a second American on the same day.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2138409]My advice is not only directed at the mongers trying a WG for the first time, but also the big spenders who repeat their favorites. Yes, these princesses may have a few FB photos of them on a yacht, but I doubt these WGs can pull this type of customer on a regular basis. If you get past all the exaggeration, embellishment, and lies, you may find out that you are one of her best-paying customers which means you have leverage to negotiate.

Remember, these WGs are in sales where it is common to adopt a "fake it until they make it" mentality:[/QUOTE]In a FKK everything is fake and cheating, never believe one word coming out of the mouth of a prostitute or it will be the start of big problems for you, also there is no star or princesses they are just prostitutes trying to pump as much money as possible by giving as less as possible, if they are different they will never accept to be fucked many times every day by guys they will even no consider 1 second in the normal life. I never negotiate with a girl if she doesn't want I just move to another one and if nothing is possible that day it is not a problem to leave without any session if you all do like me I am convinced that we the mongers will regain some power.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2137612]To clarify, I meant cutting back time spent in the room. If a regular has been used to 1 hour+ rooms and I do a 30 minute room here and there, I generally get the same service. But perhaps you are talking about going back from 100 euro 30 minutes to 50 euro 30 minutes for the same service. I would guess that wouldn't work out well.[/QUOTE]Ah I see. Thank you.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2137593]We are talking about the upscale girls like.

Rebecca.

Brenda and the whole group at that end of the bar. . . . Lovely Adina who I have forgiven all her sins because of everything else she represents. Cuteness wins because I am a sucker for cuties like that.[/QUOTE]Which end of the bar is this? As you enter is it the right side near the back? Does Adina have nice breasts?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2138411]Angelina "Egyptian" will only hit you in the balls, if you waste her time. Seen this one American guy who was too polite with her. He put his arm around her waist. Answered her questions. Then said "No" when the room question came up 2-3 minutes later. She crushed the balls of a second American on the same day.[/QUOTE]Wow, vicious! That seems fair, but I've never had a good impression of her. Too much nagging, not my taste physically.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2138462]Not my taste physically.[/QUOTE]Once upon a time I used to wait in line for Lexi. Friend from America told me the same, well now you can't hump, afraid of breaking a bone or two.

Hair, weight, boney look and attitude that goes with it. What a sad story.

Geez, you guys complain about ball crushing Egyptian Angelina and then are afraid to even mention the word Evita. Seriously, it seems like Evita already crushed your balls, removed them and sold them to the nearest medical lab. Agree that Angelina is now past her expiry date, but she did give OK service a while ago, no complaints there.

Anyone recently seen Italian claiming Rom Patricia, the slim one. Awesome.

Love the slim Rom Michaela. Martina too.

Any clue about this girl Sheela Rom? Sessioned just once a few months ago, decent service, pretty gal.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2137588]I estimate between 50 and 60 girls. Not well attended. Many girls claimed to be bored but that's what they usually say on any given day. There weren't many stunners. I would rate it a weak LU today. [/QUOTE]I arrived a few hours after you and there were between 35 and 45 ladies walking around. More guys than gals. The line up was bleak. Why? Because it was a Monday and / or because some good ladies have left the business due to registration rules.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2137588]When I just left the lady at the reception asked me if everything was all right and I mechanically lied and said "yes, sure".

It wasn't as much a lie as it was a habit. Of course it was supposed to be all right or even great but it wasn't at all. By normal standards it was good but by Sharks standards and by taking my older experiences into consideration nothing was even close this time. Girls upsold every time. There was one single exception. Alexandra (it was the night before). All other girls I talked to wanted 100 for a normal room service. 50 now is just suck and sex, not even licking. If you ask me this is downright Amsterdam window style and bad form. Sharks was once amazing in that almost every session was good. Now it is not worth it to me anymore. Of course we are spoilt because of what we have in Vienna but Hessen used to be at least 1 level better. The variety of the clubs is still awesome but the overall experience is spiralling down. No doubt that this is a result of the no-condom-law. But in all seriousness, the condom is not the problem. It is the attitude and the price structure applied by the girls.[/QUOTE]I second this experience. When the receptionist asked me if everything was okay, I hesitated and wanted to complain, but I did the same as you. I thought, it's not her fault and the club facilities were good and that she isn't responsible for the behavior of the ladies there so no point of complaining to her. But this kind of upselling, stuck up, dishonest, and unenthusiastic behavior has become more prevalent in the last few months at Sharks. There are still some good women with honest, no upselling behavior, but they are becoming very difficult to find (e. G. Where is Sandra? The vast majority of the current line up could take a few lessons from her). I genuinely considered leaving without having any sessions; it was that bad. Oase was like this a few years ago, and I never went back. Now I'm beginning to think the same about Sharks.

[QUOTE=MonSooner;2137588]I am positive that Sharks management will get this in order again sooner or later. From what I hear the law is actually being enforced.

Whatever that means and however it is done I can only speculate.

I am sure my experience sounds weird for the locals but I really couldn't believe the difference between my last stay here and now.[/QUOTE]The problem is, there is a disagreement on what should be provided in a standard session, and the many of the girls there now do not like to do standard sessions. They upsell CIM, anal, and duos; But they retch over a trash bin as soon as you nut in their mouth, do their best to stop anal from actually happening once they've sold it, and try to do the minimum possible in a duo while further upselling lesbian action. These upsells are, of course, only for the money, not because they have any interest in those activities. Even kissing has become an upsell. Offerings and prices are deviating from the standards and this is a worrying trend for all who do not enjoy negotiating outside the room. 100 euro / one hour rooms are not enough to satisfy the greed of some girls. Is there another option? Men will stop going to Sharks if it becomes simpler and more satisfying to have a wank at home or go to another FKK / brothel / escort agency. The upsellers are unable to see or are inconsiderate of the fact that they are polluting the environment by going for short term small profit with sharkish behavior.

I do not know if the Sharks' management will be able to fix this issue. I hope they can, and that's why I wrote this report. There must first be an awareness of the problem, before there can be positive change.

[QUOTE=Gonzo88;2137772]Went for 2 sessions with Aphrodite (ROM) and one Dominika (Hun). Both were excellent, but were basic, 50 Euro half hour sessions. Neither tried to upsell or gave me an grief about 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Good picks. Did you find them or did they come to you and initiate the conversation?

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2138462]Wow, vicious! That seems fair, but I've never had a good impression of her. Too much nagging, not my taste physically.[/QUOTE]Veteran prostitutes, too many years in the business, before at World just make a big turn around her if you want to have fun.

[QUOTE=KenzoTange;2138427]Ah I see. Thank you.

Which end of the bar is this? As you enter is it the right side near the back? Does Adina have nice breasts?[/QUOTE]Brenda is also one of those girls who is a big upseller, she is also a bit stupid and believes that she is nice with her saggy boobs, under daylight she is just so so, I don't care about her just a prostitute like many others with poor and low education, not willing to work in a normal job but who prefers to suck and open her legs to all kind of guys.

[QUOTE=DesRev;2138521]There are still some good women with honest, no upselling behavior, but they are becoming very difficult to find (e. G. Where is Sandra? The vast majority of the current line up could take a few lessons from her). I genuinely considered leaving without having any sessions; it was that bad. Oase was like this a few years ago, and I never went back. Now I'm beginning to think the same about Sharks.
[/QUOTE]

I miss Sandra also, she is still today my favorite German.

I was speaking with a monger who was telling me the story of how Sharks rose up due to poor management at Oase. Back in 2014 Oase was king and Sharks was a relatively empty club. Then the management at Oase changed, increasing the entry, changing the food, and implemented the bracelets. A band of German regulars got together and moved their business to Sharks and now you see where we are today. Oase gets half of the traffic as Sharks. Oase is full of tourists in the day and Turkish Germans at night with no more than 10% older german regulars. Sharks still has it's contingent of Germans but how much longer will they put up with this before they migrate elsewhere? Maybe even back to Oase.

Meanwhile, Oase has already lowered their entry to 50 euro before 4 pm and improved their food. The venue itself is hands down better than Sharks, with a relax room, wifi, the ability to use my phone, separated smoking area, and a superior pool scene in the summer. For late nights it's also better. Since girls at Sharks work as they please, they start leaving between 1 am and 3 am even on Friday and Saturday. On the other hand, girls who work the night shift at Oase must stay until the club closes. As such, At 3:30 am on Tuesday, all of the top girls were still present. Try hanging out at Sharks at 3 am on a Tuesday, It's a castastrophe😳

I've been a Sharks over Oase guy for 2 years but the ball is now in Sharks' court. Can they sustain the club on tourist traffic if the Germans stop coming? Are they going to let a new group of 19-20 year old Romanian girls have this much impact on their business?

It would help if these Americans and Asians would stop feeding the bears.