Angeles City

[QUOTE=DickBump;1790296]Thought you may be interested to read was posted posted in the Ethiopia forum Apparently caught the Super Clap in AC.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?884-Ethiopia&p=1790248[/URL]#post1790248.[/QUOTE]It's an interesting FR but the fella seems to believe one cannot get gonorrhea through oral sex.

[quote]"Gonorrhea is commonly thought of as a painful genital infection. But the microbe also grows robustly in the pharynx, at the back of the throat. In effect, the human pharynx is a spawning ground for resistance. "Neisseria gonorrhoeae is just infinitely mutable," Dr. Katherine Hsu, an infectious-disease expert and the medical director of the S.T. the Prevention Division at the Massachusetts Department of Public Health, told me. The throat, she said, is where "the gonococcus is having sex, so to speak, with other bacteria. " And, because pharyngeal gonorrhea rarely produces symptoms, it is more likely both to go untreated and to be passed on unknowingly. A driving factor behind the rise in gonorrhea infections, as well as the trend toward total antibiotic resistance, is our complacent attitude toward oral sex. Saliva contains enzymes that destroy gonorrhea, so kissing and cunnilingus don't spread it. But fellatio, which brings the tip of the urethra near the pharynx, carries a high risk of infecting one partner or the other. " [/quote] [url]http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/10/01/sex-and-the-superbug[/URL].

[QUOTE=VeryInterest;1789818]Heading to AC and have some questions after reading 100 pages or so.

Seems like most of the girls are MILFS, is it difficult to find non-mothers?

Are perimeter bars lower quality girls as in looks or age?

Are there any "incall" type places like Bangkok where there's a bed, a shower, and 2 hours later they send you on your way?[/QUOTE]1) Some of the girls have babies and some don't. Sometimes the marks are readily available and other times you can't tell. Plenty of gals about that aren't mothers. 18,19, 20 etc.

On average over the last decade I'd say the 'average' age of a bar girl in AC has moved from 18-22 to 20-24. Plenty of good ones still here. Just ask if they have a baby and they will gladly tell you.

Perimeter and Fields are very different beasts.

Fields has hotter girls (in general) and more girls, more clubs in a smaller area. However you can run into more games:

- Hygiene tomorrow.

- Menstruation (after you've bought them copious drinks).

- Sorry, not tonight.

Fields also usually has higher barfines.

In recent years I've stopped going to Fields as much because all of the above, plus beggars, people watching you and the just the general vibe. Though have pulled some stunner and some good girls.

Perimeter is more spread out, and more laid back, closes earlier (last few bars close at midnight). There's a lot of fun to be had, and can find some diamonds, new girls, etc. Try them both out.

No real 'incall' (brothels). You can check Blow Rd and Raymond St. Both are short time roads. You can easily take a girl to local ST hotel for few hundred peso. Or you can get numbers and text them to come to your hotel when you feel like staying in / afternoons.

[QUOTE=DickBump;1790296]Thought you may be interested to read was posted posted in the Ethiopia forum Apparently caught the Super Clap in AC.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?884-Ethiopia&p=1790248[/URL]#post1790248.[/QUOTE]STDs are a way of life when you're a monger. At least the risk of them.

Double (or triple) if you bareback or frequent RLD that have lot of bareback.

Condoms are optional in AC / PI so most guys I know will catch the clap periodically. You pay your dollar and take your chances.

In a decade of hard mongering here I probably catch it 1 or 2 x a year (maybe 100+ girls a year).

In the past a dose of cipro would clear it up, then zithro. One time I caught a strain that didn't respond to either, had to get a right painful shot in the arm and it was gone the next day.

Never caught anything worse (knock on wood).

I believe the 'Gonno that is non-responsive' is just a scare tactic via media to get clicks. It's my understanding they really just mean that there are strains that will require a cocktail of antibiotics to treat. Not that you will live the rest of your life with a drippy dick.

[QUOTE=RockyDStar143;1790121]Landed today in AC. Had some rest. Finally reached fields by 10 pm. Very lean period. Lot of bars empty. Very few farangs as compared to my June trip. Lot more Germans & koreans. I wanted to test the street thing as missed in last trip. I collected a dozen of massage cards. Sorted to 2. Finally I se a MILF beauty at the entrance of walking street. Usual introduction and she quoted 3 k LT. I said I will be back. After an hour of moving around I quote 1. 5 k ST. Agreed. I know a bit high. But she is 7/10. And a ex bargirl. But to my horror I found out that she is local during trike ride. Then I said I don't want any disturbance let us switch off our phones. Agred with hesitation. Deed as usual but no BBBJ. I was fine as she already made me horny. I enjoyed the session. Its absolutely more fun in the philippines.

Rocky.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's crazy pricing.

1 k long time and 500ST would be more in line with reality.

Maybe- 1 k short time (max).

Personally I'd steer clear of the street girls. Just too many problems over the years with scams and worse. If you want hookups without paying barfines head to Blow Rd or Raymond and get some numbers while you have a drink.

Or get numbers from girls in bars to meet after work or the next day.

Current rate (at least that I pay) is 500ST and 1 k long time (if they're good). If not so good maybe just 500 or 700 p LT.

Never once had any complaints, and never had girls not want to repeat.

Cellphone off is a good idea, but you could also be followed pretty easily by her handler if it's a setup. Honestly. Better to just avoid the street girls.

[QUOTE=Rstoff;1789210]I will be in Angeles Easter Sunday for 6 days. Are you seriously telling me I'm in for a bad time? No Pussy? Surely there is serious cash to be made no matter what time of year it is.[/QUOTE]Pretty dead during Easter.

You'll find something. But a lot fewer options.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1789155]In AC there is no extra payment to the girl. It is all covered in the bar fine.[/QUOTE]I dunno, have been living here a decade. When I first came you're right. It was pretty much all inclusive. Maybe a few hundred for trike.

If you take a girl LT now and give her no tip can pretty much guarantee she will not want to go with you again, and worst she will tell the other girls in her bar you suck as well.

Hell, just sitting in my local bars the girls will point out customers that only tip 200 p or nothing when they come in. I've seen these same guys get upset when they try to interact with their prior barfine on stage and she turns her back.

Tipping nothing is like having Herpes on your nose.

Guess it also depends where you're pulling from and whom you're taking. If you're grabbing from Santos, street gals, or Raymond. Sure maybe you can tip nothing. Or if you're pulling fugly chicks they might be glad to have the barfine money?

My (and my friends) typical tip is 500ST and 1 k LT (if she does good) - and I'm surely no big spender.

I don't barfine from Fields anymore. Used to be the barfines were only 1.8 or 2. Now that they're 3 k maybe you're right. Maybe the girls aren't wanting a tip. Don't have current experience on Fields.

[QUOTE=GhostLuv;1790476]
No real 'incall' (brothels). You can check Blow Rd and Raymond St. Both are short time roads. You can easily take a girl to local ST hotel for few hundred peso. Or you can get numbers and text them to come to your hotel when you feel like staying in / afternoons.[/QUOTE]For the newbies: you won't find 'Blow Rd' in Google Maps (not in Angeles anyway). It's called 'A Santos Road' officially.

[QUOTE=GhostLuv;1790483]
Personally I'd steer clear of the street girls. Just too many problems over the years with scams and worse. [/QUOTE]Personally I'd steer clear of the BAR girls. Just too many problems over the years with scams and worse, LOL!
I haven't even set one foot in a bar last time I was in Angeles.

[QUOTE=GhostLuv;1790488]If you take a girl LT now and give her no tip can pretty much guarantee she will not want to go with you again, and worst she will tell the other girls in her bar you suck as well.

Hell, just sitting in my local bars the girls will point out customers that only tip 200 p or nothing when they come in. I've seen these same guys get upset when they try to interact with their prior barfine on stage and she turns her back.

Tipping nothing is like having Herpes on your nose.

Guess it also depends where you're pulling from and whom you're taking. If you're grabbing from Santos, street gals, or Raymond. Sure maybe you can tip nothing. Or if you're pulling fugly chicks they might be glad to have the barfine money?

My (and my friends) typical tip is 500ST and 1 k LT (if she does good) - and I'm surely no big spender.[/QUOTE]More importantly it may depend on who YOU are. Maybe you are talking about guys who disgust the women so that if he is not giving much extra then she wants nothing to do with him and will talk about him like a dog. There are many guys who can attest to not giving a girl a tip yet the girl is steadily blowing his phone up wondering when she can come back. So if you have been living there longer than I have been going there you should definitely know better! I know several guys who live in AC and I will swear that not one of them would dare give a chick a 500 peso tip. 1000 should not even be mentioned. I thought it was "Blow Row" by the way. But with you living there maybe you know something I don't.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;1790693]Personally I'd steer clear of the BAR girls. Just too many problems over the years with scams and worse, LOL!
I haven't even set one foot in a bar last time I was in Angeles.[/QUOTE]Okay sure, I get that. I know guys that share your preference.

Listen, I'm not in favor or bars, bar owners or that whole scene. However. Compare the types of scams that happen in AC.

A girl working in the bar can scam you. But really all you've lost is your barfine dosh. Maybe she'll pull a runner, give shit service, beg out, say it hurts to fuck, be a drink- or any number of games.

You get pissed, walk away and go grab another gal.

However girls on the street can lead to all sort of more serious problems. First hand know more than a handful of guys who have been surprised to find PNP jumping over their fence, knocking on their house / apt or hotel door.

Certainly not all freelancers on the street are on the game. But there certainly are more than a few. In the last decade can't even count how many setups I've heard about (and a lot of guys keep it to themselves. Or just leave).

In addition I know some girls who are on the street cause just general bad behavior. Maybe they were fired out cause they can't show up, don't follow rules, have attitude etc. This is a minority. But again. Meh.

As always. YMMV.

There appears to be a whole another scene here with freelancers going to disco like High Society and I've read good things about it. Dunno. I've never tried it.

Having lived here 10 years I have a phone full of numbers. If I want to shag I call someone over. If I go to bars it's to talk with friend, get drunk, or cause a mamasan has texted me there's a new girl starting.

Would be curious to hear where you're pulling your girls from. If it's the corner of Raymond and Fields area. Good luck.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1790696]More importantly it may depend on who YOU are. Maybe you are talking about guys who disgust the women so that if he is not given much extra then she wants nothing to do with him. There are many guys who can attest to not giving a girl a tip yet the girl is steadily blowing his phone up wondering when she can come back. So if you have been living there longer than I have been going there you should definitely know better! I know several guys who live in AC and I will swear that not one of them would dare give a chick a 500 peso tip. 1000 should not even be mentioned.[/QUOTE]Sure.

My (live out) housemaid has been shacked up with a 50 yo guy for the last two weeks. He wanted to see the province so she took him (he paid the bus) and stayed for free at her parents house.

He regularly calls her over to take photos of him while he shags bar girls etc. When I inquired how much he gives her for a tip she always says 'nothing'.

She spends her own money on trike, and spend four or five nights a week with him. He pays her dinner and breakfast.

Turns out he's been coming to town since February off and on doing this. Not a cent, farthing or pound.

You could say this guy is getting a great deal. Free sex. She's not complaining to him (but in tears to me). She's playing the long-game hoping that something works out and she will have a relationship / support.

She doesn't like the sex (lesbian).

I know plenty of guys who don't tip anything. Or at most trike. Good for them. It takes all kinds.

I have a bit of money, big house, and I'm an ugly old fat brute. So any young gal that has to suffer through seeing my fat arse naked and humping on top of her deserves a little bit of dosh I think.

I have friends that tip 5 k a night or 5 k and a phone. How people spend their money is their own business.

I was just telling the other poster that 3 k is excessive (above norm) you're telling me 500-1 k is excessive and above the norm (for you). Cool.

For me. I find that if you tip nothing the girls aren't loving to go with you, or giving you great service. At least not the 19 yo spinners. Certainly you don't get access over other guys that do tip.

Not saying there aren't exceptions.

500ST and 1 k LT (for good service. As many times as I care to pop) works well for me.

For me value = experience I get, experience I can give etc. Not just a dollar value. Certainly don't mind spreading for what I feel is good service, attitude and availability.

Peace.

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[QUOTE=GhostLuv;1790488]If you take a girl LT now and give her no tip can pretty much guarantee she will not want to go with you again, and worst she will tell the other girls in her bar you suck as well.[/QUOTE]What would be the harm in that?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1791029]What would be the harm in that?[/QUOTE]Exactly! If she's rubbish, she's rubbish. I'm not going to pay her extra for crap service. And it's good that the other staff know she was rubbish too!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1791029]What would be the harm in that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustTK;1791056]Exactly! If she's rubbish, she's rubbish. I'm not going to pay her extra for crap service. And it's good that the other staff know she was rubbish too![/QUOTE]I was thinking differently. The entire concept of AC / Patts is that there are a kazillion girls. One could always re-take a quality performer (have done it myself), but the last thing on my mind when turning loose a quality performer is taking her again. Too many other pleasant flowers in the field to consider: I prefer to approach the box of chocolates from Forrest Gump's point of view - *every* time. If I hit the bars and don't find something new to my liking, its very possible I might go hit up last night's quality performer. Haha heaven forbid she might think me stingy. I wouldn't care if she didn't go with me for [I]any [/I]reason.

I am the same way. Variety is the spice of life. If I wanted to do a chick twice then I would just get a girlfriend. When I meet them I introduce myself as Mister Cheap Charlie / Mr Kuripot / Khun Keeneeow / Señor Tacaño / Senhor Pão Duro. So there is no shame in my game.