FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=WilliamHuntley;2138956]I've seen several posters reference a WG's social media account. Do the WG's advertise on social media? Which sites? Or do only their regulars get access to such access?[/QUOTE]A lot of guys will book the WG, particularly brand name Sharks girls via their Instagram, Facebook, WeChat, Snap Chat.

If you look at the Golden Time thread you will also see many recent posts complaining about how many of the best lookers are pre booked by guys via social media and hence are not available to the average guy who turns up on spec to the Golden Time club.

What may have happened to Takedown with his reference to whales booking out his regulars, mainly Asians, is the savvy social media mongers doing just that.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2138825]If no one complains when they ask about the satisfaction, it's going to be difficult.

Let's be clear, we don't go to clubs to eat, to have some sauna or to play ball in the swimming pool, the main reason is SEX. So the club is responsible for managing the girls. But most of guys at Sharks seem really happy with the situation, they never complain, they happily accept every upsell and they come back![/QUOTE]After about 1000 rooms for last 5 years, because I m only a baby in FKK land, I never needed to complain to desk about a girl and of course no girl never complained about me. Twice, once in Germany, once in Switzerland on 2011, I even had a problem about money on late night, ATM didn't work or no connection for credit card, both girls said: See you next time, without complaining to desk. It was about 200 CHF in Switzerland, only 50 missing in Germany, in Switzerland I proposed to go to try to get money outside at 2 am, my girl refused and said you will give me on next time. I didn't plan, but I returned to her on next week end. She said: I was sure you will be back on next week end.

About Sharks, except Madi2 , no upselling for me for my last visits, most often 100 for 1 hour, because I m a slow guy in bed.

Sharks is only 1 club among many others, many girls but only few beauties, when I could find 8 attractive girls at GT on last week end, since Summer 2016, I never found so many at Sharks. Girls sexual potential is also higher for me in NRW.

Better than complaining, don t be stuck, move, many great girls in FKK land, just have to make them become great for you, from your behavior with them.

It's not only in huge clubs like Sharks that regular customers make a pre-booking but also in small places as I know from numerous punters. This makes the business keep running and helps the girls to build up and save their base of loyal customers. These ones often have only a small time frame and the need to match a visit in the club with the family at home or the business schedule.

As a result less flexibility for those potential customers in hope to get a first date after having read lots of positive statements by writing punters. But simultaneously a more comfortable situation for the girls being sure to get a save income on such days without the need to stay the whole day.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2139021]A lot of guys will book the WG, particularly brand name Sharks girls via their Instagram, Facebook, WeChat, Snap Chat.

If you look at the Golden Time thread you will also see many recent posts complaining about how many of the best lookers are pre booked by guys via social media and hence are not available to the average guy who turns up on spec to the Golden Time club.

What may have happened to Takedown with his reference to whales booking out his regulars, mainly Asians, is the savvy social media mongers doing just that.[/QUOTE]Could be true but from my side if I want to met a girl I whatsapp her and usually we will meet outside the club far less stress for her no entry to pay. Most of the girls are doing it with regular customers like this, f some guys for confidentiality reasons can't meet a girl outside so they will use whatsapp to make a appointment. For example Brenda from Shark was very free und hunting a lot the last 2 days no need to make a appointment to meet her.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138906][B]DesRev[/B]

Thank you for your thought leadership on this theme that this is just not right, in fact, its is all going wrong.

The theme is Sharks is Sharks is becoming like Palace and Mainhattan. The word has gone out viral like, such that, there are Americans on local state American forums also saying that the shrine that is Sharks is become no more. What is that all about?

The feed back that is being given is coming from the guys looking for the Sharks brand name girls like [B]Sandra[/B], [B]Mandy[/B] or [B]Helen[/B], then there is the pole dancer group of girls with their doyenne [B]Evita[/B], then there is the outsider groups like [B]Michaela[/B] who is up and coming then the lost [B]Dina[/B] and [B]Nicoletta[/B].

The 50 buck deal is still there at Sharks, there are girls that happily take my money for Suck, lick, and fuck. There is the up sell talk but this can be avoided. The service is still there. Guys, you are basing the up sell on a small percentage of the total girls in the club, not the aggregate sum (of all fears).

The girl may not be the brand names of Sharks.[/QUOTE]Well. I'll be there in a few hours. Going to find out.

As I've gotten older, I've been into the longer session, and try to be more generous with the girls. In sum, I play the game differently than when I was younger. And I'm less and less tolerant of bullshit. Remember, no matter how hot she is there's someone somewhere tired of dealing with her BS LOL. So. I think it's going to be ok. I've always had good times there, and remember, one of the Thekefrau is American (and she's great! I still have fond memories of our session many years ago at Oase).

[QUOTE=MassimoPotente;2138777]I have the utmost respect for Sharks and their owners. They will manage to turn it around for very sure. I can't believe that Oase should be better than Sharks in the winter time but I guess all those reports and opinions don't lie.[/QUOTE]This. And they don't tolerate a whole lot of bullshit from those RO girls management either, who is usually the problem (unlike, say, Palace or Artemis, which are forever banned).

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138006]I hear you MonSooner. It is a sad state of affairs. My friends and I have been discussing the decline.

Even some of the German tourists who go to visit Hessen say that things are not the same and even talk about Austria or Switzerland since it is just across the border. Girls want extra 50 for kiss and lick the pussy.

It used to be just one or two girls but now it is a lot more. It is really the end. Dark doom honey. You have to keep to regulars but when they leave then the number dwindles.

The payroll becomes smaller. To expand the payroll may mean heading to pastures new or really invest in some girls and negotiate the deal to make it work.[/QUOTE]Disagree. There is always ebb and flow, usually depending on the economy. You may just have to become more discerning.

A friend of mine, a veteran hobbyist, visited Sharks a few months back. He had a pretty good time and his experiences with the girls match historical expectations.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2137369]Once again, no meaning after cut. At Sharks, at World, at VIP GT, girls can refuse a guy if they want, when I was said to have forced a girl to have 2 diners on same night and 10 1 hour rooms in 1 months at World on Summer 2015. How a girl can be forced when she ask you to have diners with her, when you would have preferred to have diner with another one who was looking at us, just because she wants You repeat with her, and come to You many times to ask you if you are ready to repeat.

Nevertheless, some little Romanian girls seem afraid to say no to German guys. Real women are not afraid about this, and I like real women.

So many claimed stories in FKK land of jealousy.[/QUOTE]I trust the management at GT and Sharks, because they set the gold standard for customer satisfaction. They've been doing this a long time. It's been a long time since I visited World, but I trusted them too.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2138922]As [B]Takedown[/B] says, the pole dancers are the girls that sit near or on the pole dance podium, only one is really a pole dancer which is [B]Mariella[/B].[/QUOTE]Don't forget about [B]Djamila/Joana[/B], the great dancer! Since she is sitting there too, and since she is the only one dancing at the pole for the last two weeks (with Mariella on holidays), there must be at least two "real pole dancers" in that otherwise obviously misnamed group.

[QUOTE=DesRev;2138942]You missed the point entirely just to shoehorn your "Jordan Peterson" role play attempt.[/QUOTE]First time that I hear his name! Thanks for the hint!

[QUOTE=DesRev;2138942]Prostitution is a market like any other, with two sides to every transaction.[/QUOTE]Well, let's assume for the moment that the reduction to two facets is true. Then what is the use of all the complaining of many of those people here in the forum about normal market phenomena in FKK-Clubs? It is a market, like any other, as you stated.

WYSIWYG: The capitalistic system ideology, best represented by its hard-core adepts who want to earn money, as much and as fast as they can, using optimized methods for short time success.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2138881].....Sharks and other FKK-clubs are dark, resentful places! Cauldrons filled with people full of unprocessed emotional projections on other people![/QUOTE]Your posts strike me as someone who's not getting any....and if you do go into Sharks at all you just sit around looking at mongers and being bitter.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2139183]Your posts strike me as someone who's not getting any....and if you do go into Sharks at all you just sit around looking at mongers and being bitter.[/QUOTE]We should not speculate about what other are doing in the clubs, what is sure at least for me it is more and more difficult to be very happy in Shark or Oase or World but I am not the only one yesterday around 15 PM at Shark everybody was looking so sad the girls and the mongers, no party atmosphere, no fun, nothing just desperate faces. The girls were complaining about tuff times like usual and the guys were also unhappy but I don t know the reasons. Fortunately there are better clubs, where guys are speaking together, the girls and the staffs are friendly, you feel like in a family respect on both sides and no guys taking showers with clothes or speaking like I fuck her ass so hard I think she will have pain for several days, that are the places where you want to return but not in the big Hessen clubs where everything is so fake.

[QUOTE=Takedown;2138911]I think the question is can you still get 50 euro with kiss, BBBJ, suck, and fuck and with a looker regardless of brand name. This statement is a hyperbole but I have no doubt that said service can be had with those large 40 year olds who work on Dessous day using clothes to cover up those bellies.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can at Sharks, with a woman type blond Hungarian always smiling, not Dina nor Nicoletta nor Mersi. Hu, only working on week end. I had 2 rooms with her on end of 2017 . She is really nice for behavior, always smiling, kissing, sucking, but really not used to long foreplay, so even not my standard, 30 full minutes are enough with her. No upselling, only smiles and thank you for 50.

As I'm used to 1 hour rooms, no upselling for me at Sharks, girls take 100 and repeat.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2138951]Getting priority bumped by a super-popular WG on a peak night is a common occurrence. Doesn't happen to me often, because the ones I room with aren't that super-high demand. But WG's have rejected me before with the excuse that they are tired. However, my next visit, they went to the room with me, no problem. If it becomes a pattern then, you may been blackballed.

But I doubt this. The WGs that blackballed me were direct in their tone, words, and body language. A few of the ones that have blackballed me still retain a sense of humor. So even though I know they don't want to go with me, I still make a ritual of approaching them, just to entertain myself.

RE: whales and busy WGs. For all we know, that day you visited, she could have been getting text messages from three different whales. She's trying to figure out a way she can squeeze all three in. She's just showered after a long room with whale #1. Whale #2 is nowhere to be found. She now has to frantically search for her WG friend to see if she has any status updates on whale #2, meanwhile she now has to find whale #3 to see if he is willing to push his appointment back a little. Point is she is going after the biggest sales prospects first, so she may have just forgot to get back to you.

Also how clear were your intentions to room? Was it (a) let's room now (b) let's meet at 8 pm (c) come look for me later.[/QUOTE]Your whale juggling story sounds like what I imagine is a typical night in the life of Evita.

Bitumen. You list Mersi, Serena and Betty as upselling. Well done. It is good to identify the greedy ruthless Precious Princesses who are giving the club a bad reputation (even if this hasn't yet reached the US forums).

I hope that, unlike me, you won't get WhatsApp messages from these girls complaining about you reporting on their behaviour.

I say greedy since to give just one example, a 500 euro session by me was described as " not much money" and an extra payment was demanded, and in fact taken from my wallet.