A Perspective looking at monetary value vs Individual perceptions of 'Right' / 'Wrong
Thanks for the details. A different angle of looking at this transaction between a 'service' consumer and a provider.
A question to All considering the various scenarios our mongers have been through. No sides intended here.
Scenario 1:
Guy (is new to the city) and girl (based out of the city) agree to have sex in exchange of money for 2 shots / 25 K and enter the room. Guy trusts the girl and hands over a portion / all the money to her, the girl keeps the money in her purse and they strip all naked. Before the deed can start, the girl suddenly gets unwell has a seizure and faints on the bed all naked.
The guy being new to town has no clue what to do next.
A) Does he leave the money in her purse and call any doctor and struggle to explain the situation.
B) Take the money as there was no service provided and reach out to the girls contacts on her phone and explain to them on what happened seeking help.
C) Take all of his money and run away leaving her behind in that state.
D) Should he forgo his money as it is now in her purse and pay for her medical expenses out of his pocket while dealing with her angry acquaintances which may also include getting beaten black and blue.
What would be your response if you were in such a situation?
Scenario 2:
Guy (based out of the city) and girl (is new to the city) agree to have sex in exchange of money for 2 shots / 25 K and enter the room. Guy trusts the girl and hands over a portion / all the money to her, the girl keeps the money in her purse and they strip all naked. Before the deed can start, the guy suddenly gets unwell has a seizure and faints on the bed all naked.
The girl being new to town has no clue what to do next.
A) does she leave with the money in her purse and call any doctor and struggle to explain the situation.
B) take the money as it was agreed and there was no service provided and as a courtesy reach out to the guy's contacts on his phone and explain to them on what happened seeking help.
C) take all of her money and run away leaving him behind in that state.
D) Should she forgo her money and pay for his expenses out of her pocket / with that money while dealing with his angry acquaintances which would include getting beaten black and blue.
What would be your response if you were in such a situation?
Would we side with the person who did not fulfill their verbal commitments there by breaking a relationship / would we side with one who took their rightful hard earned money and thought through the deal smartly?
The action taken in such cases is highly subjective and is instantaneous without an after thought of the circumstances. It gets quite interesting if there are multiple parties involved who helped facilitate the transaction and have an interest in the transaction being a success. It could be the room provider, it could be a friend who referred the girl and gets his reputation damaged / SP who facilitated the interaction and gets a cut. It boils down to how we view this in its entirety either as a monetary transaction / as a way to engage in building a relationship and honoring a verbal commitment.
In such cases, a win-win scenario / negotiation would have borne fruit. In my experience, situations where a certain deal would not have fallen through because of various reasons can be handled tacitly with a verbal apology of not honoring the deal and an agreeable token amount to meet the expenses (both visible and hidden) incurred including protection money.
I am just at loss of words for the pain felt by Rajoo, the Junior Lawyer and LbJeff in this entire complex situation and its awful aftermath. Hope the wounds heel, people forgive but not forget the lessons learned.
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SP Mallu bird. Need review.
Got this bird from a SP I contacted through Loc. SP claims she is a Mallu and quite new in business. Quoting 10 k per shot with place. Deed will be at SP's place only. Has any brother here tasted this bird? I am trying to negotiate and bring price to 8 k. Is she worth it?
A review on Indians in Hong Kong forum.
After I read this post I felt so bad. Here we fight a lot rather than sharing experiences. I have few friends here who helped me with contacts initially now I started building on my own.
"Have you ever taken a glance at the Indian forums? Jeezus, what a chaotic zoo. Everyone constantly begging for contacts. No reports afterwards.
Actually, almost no reports period. When the Indians come to China, all they do is post a request for contacts without RTFF, despite the fact that many Chinese forums are active, recent, full of useful info even for noobs. True for HK thread as well. And these guys relentless bargain with the girls for less money and more return. Many Chinese girls steer clear of Indians for this reason, and ironically the Indians think it is racism when it is mostly justified."
Thank you.
Wolverine.
Money controls mongering.
Money is an important factor and is discussed all over in the mongering world. The working girls spread their legs on seeing your money and obviously not on your looks. For instance, in Western Europe, prices are fixed in their red-light districts. Before starting the deed, you can directly negotiate with the girls about the total time you can spend with her and what she does and what she doesn't perform during the act. Most girls will charge you an extra ten euros for a blowjob without condom or some may even charge a small amount for switching positions. All these are negotiable and the western guys are very good at negotiations. Even in Bangkok and pattaya, I have seen people of all nationalities negotiating hard, so don't blame it only on Indians. The situation here is totally different, if you can have a working girl for 3 k at the SP's place, what is the point in meeting her outside for a wicked price of 10-15 K?
Cheers,
Chris.
[QUOTE=XMen69;2226942]After I read this post I felt so bad. Here we fight a lot rather than sharing experiences. I have few friends here who helped me with contacts initially now I started building on my own.
"Have you ever taken a glance at the Indian forums? Jeezus, what a chaotic zoo. Everyone constantly begging for contacts. No reports afterwards.
Actually, almost no reports period. When the Indians come to China, all they do is post a request for contacts without RTFF, despite the fact that many Chinese forums are active, recent, full of useful info even for noobs. True for HK thread as well. And these guys relentless bargain with the girls for less money and more return. Many Chinese girls steer clear of Indians for this reason, and ironically the Indians think it is racism when it is mostly justified."
Thank you.
Wolverine.[/QUOTE]
Rajooooo and so called group.
I would like to ask Rajoooo and their group why it's them whenever they share any so called Inde contact it comes back to haunt them. If it's an Inde why you guys play a middlemen role here. I don't know I want to ask the Chennai forum members especially who hail and praise the Rajoo and their group. When is the last time you got an Inde contact and the person who shared a contact told you this is the budget and place which is not negotiable. Even though I have mongered in Europe when I started here I reached out to Rajoo and Coolsp for inde contacts. Rajoo didn't respond I am thanking god for it now but Coolsp responded and shared a picture. To be frank she was not looking good and to my liking so I asked him another contact. I did not get any response from him after that. I tried reaching out by sending 2 follow up mail but no reply so I stopped reaching out. I really pity on LbJeff for this incident sorry mate you went through this and people in this forum even seniors are like, this is bad, things like this shouldn't happen. I hope they are matured enough to understand there is always two sides of the story. I know you should have backed out when you did not like her but I don't know why Rajoo was acting like a SP in this case.
I have seen this happening time after time in Chennai forum were Rajoo and their group will share FR's about a lady and other members of their group will start hailing for the catch. After that they will start selling the contact with other members for enormous amount. And at the end they will end the chapter of the contact like this or saying she is out of this league. Guys pleas wake up you know it better what amount who have to pay for a girl. For example if you take HR girl she was praised but if you search the FR in the forum there is FR's which says she is not good for the amount.
I am not sure why your group when they post FR you guys don't share picture of a gal with face covered. And if you are not ready to share the contact then please don't post FR here. We don't want to hear any good stories here.
Thanks.
Need of the hour. Matured Approach & Brotherhood.
[QUOTE=GiveMeMore87;2227375]I would like to ask Rajoooo and their group why it's them whenever they share any so called Inde contact it comes back to haunt them. If it's an Inde why you guys play a middlemen role here. I don't know I want to ask the Chennai forum members especially who hail and praise the Rajoo and their group. When is the last time you got an Inde contact and the person who shared a contact told you this is the budget and place which is not negotiable. Even though I have mongered in Europe when I started here I reached out to Rajoo and Coolsp for inde contacts. Rajoo didn't respond I am thanking god for it now but Coolsp responded and shared a picture. To be frank she was not looking good and to my liking so I asked him another contact. I did not get any response from him after that. I tried reaching out by sending 2 follow up mail but no reply so I stopped reaching out. I really pity on LbJeff for this incident sorry mate you went through this and people in this forum even seniors are like, this is bad, things like this shouldn't happen. I hope they are matured enough to understand there is always two sides of the story. I know you should have backed out when you did not like her but I don't know why Rajoo was acting like a SP in this case..[/QUOTE]Hello folks,
1. I haven't come across any rule in this forum that declares seniors to reach out and help all newbies. Maybe someone can point it to me the same if I had missed it somewhere.
2. Accept the fact that FRs make our life more interesting and spicy, else this forum will be boring as hell. This is not a telephone directory where you share contacts and leave.
3. So much effort goes to unearth a gem and make the girl trust you. Small suggestion: Try referring a newbie you trust and when he misbehaves, you will understand the pain of losing that contact, then you won't talk like this.
4. The look and experience is totally subjective and depends on the individual. Please stop generalizing or pointing out any girl in particular. They are also fellow human beings who have a heart and first learn to respect that. Also people once build trust with a person they generally share the pic of girl. This has happened with me too! So just be patient and prove your worthiness.
5. No one is forcing anyone to pay or try anyone. There is Locanto or so many other forums where you can first burn your money and later come to ISG and act matured!
This forum has given me so many nice friends & experiences and a lot more to come!
Let's all together make this Chennai chapter more vibrant and cultivate brotherhood. My humble request is to each one of you to stop this blame game, act matured, monger and enjoy the sweet pleasures of life.
All the best! Have a fantabulous safe Mongering Season!!
Yours,
Ram.