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Why can't they open a place like campo allegre in curacao? This is perfect to keep social distance.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2453514] I guess total trips around 700 in last 8 10 years[/QUOTE]If you made a trip every week for 13 years straight it still wouldn't even be 700 trips. I don't buy it.

[QUOTE=Ctytek;2453994]I will put as much credibility into that as "waiter and a working girl". People are just speculating and pulling random dates out of their behinds. In truth- none of them have any credible info as to when bars will be allowed to reopen, as it's not been decided by the authorities.[/QUOTE]And you and Chinatown are giving credibility to the authorities of Tijuana. Now let's talk about who is pulling stuff out of their behinds.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2454252]There's definitely an unknown, unexplainable transition factor, like how it killed so many so quick in Italy.[/QUOTE]People watching real news (not fake news from the Fox network) know the explanation for that. Italy's medical system was overwhelmed.

On 31 January, the Italian government (as well as the United States Government) suspended all flights to and from China.

On 17 March, undersecretary at the Ministry of Health Sandra Zampa announced the purchase of many new ventilators as well as the importing of one and a half million masks from South Africa.

In order to deal with the numbers of COVID-19 patients, intensive care units were expanded, and new hospitals were created, especially in Lombardy. In Emilia-Romagna, professor Marco Ranieri developed a method to double the efficiency of ventilators in ICUs. The lack of a single protocol for hospitals was considered to be a problem.

Due to hospitals overcrowding with coronavirus patients, thousands of cancer patients experienced difficulties in getting access to treatment and transplants, with their lives put at even higher risk. Dozens of cancer hospital sections were indeed wither dedicated to host coronavirus wards, or closed after personnel got infected. According to a study, cancer patients represented 17% of coronavirus fatalities in Italy.

A letter published on the New England Journal of Medicine Catalyst Innovations in Care Delivery claimed that one of the reasons for the high death count in the area of Bergamo was hospital contamination.

Healthcare workers were also affected by coronavirus infections, with a higher percentage of the infected healthcare workers being women because of their predominance among nurses. This resulted in death in a considerable amount of cases, especially amongst general practitioners. By the end of March, more than 60 doctors in Italy had died with COVID-19, and the figure increased to 80 by 4 April and later 145 by 22 April.

So now, let's talk about Mexico:

Number and categorization of hospitalized cases were presented by the Secretariat of Health at the daily press conference (stable cases vs severe cases vs medical ventilation cases). That data showed steadily increasing amounts of hospitalizations and concern that the Mexican medical system was headed into disastrous territory. So the Mexican government did something predicable. After April 20 the Secretariat of Health stopped reporting this type of classification of hospitalized cases (as some hospitals began refusing admission of Covid patients).

On May 13, 2020, the Secretary of Economy Graciela Mrquez Coland announced the Plan for the return to the new normality (Plan para el regreso a la nueva normalidad in Spanish). The purpose of the plan is to progressively resume productive, social and educational activities that were halted during the phases of contingency in order to reopen the economy.

Phase 2 started on May 18th and is still scheduled to end on May 31st. Phase 2 was designed to prepare for the reopening of the country. Manufacturing of transportation equipment, mining, and construction industries are considered essential activities.

The starting date of Phase 3 has not yet been announced. For Phase 3 a "traffic light" coding system is to be implemented for the gradual reopening of the country. Consisting of four colors (green, yellow, orange, and red) that represent the severity of the pandemic in each state, the "traffic light" will be updated weekly and each color indicates which activities are safe to resume. Since Tijuana and Mexico City have been among Mexico's hardest hit areas, they likely will be in the last areas (states) to emerge from the shutdown.

[QUOTE=BigButtDetecto;2454261]Why can't they open a place like campo allegre in curacao? This is perfect to keep social distance.[/QUOTE]In Campo every man who enters the establishment can copulate with any girl in the place so where's the social distancing? There's no such thing as social distancing in the p4p environment.

Hi All,

While Covid is on everyone's mind, let's keep this forum alive with what it is intented for, sharing info and experiences of mongering. All who opine about data and share links of virus news are, at best, guessing. It's Novel for a reason. How it will play out will be determined in time. For those who are not concerned, that is perfectly fine. For those who are concerned, that is also perfectly fine. All a matter of choice. But leave the covid news (and its political opinions) out. We all have access to info and will seek it out ourselves.

If you're able to go hunt, please send us some reports, pics, etc. If you're locked down share some interesting old trip reports.

Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2454397]Hi All,

While Covid is on everyone's mind, let's keep this forum alive with what it is intented for, sharing info and experiences of mongering. All who opine about data and share links of virus news are, at best, guessing. It's Novel for a reason. How it will play out will be determined in time. For those who are not concerned, that is perfectly fine. For those who are concerned, that is also perfectly fine. All a matter of choice. But leave the covid news (and its political opinions) out. We all have access to info and will seek it out ourselves.

If you're able to go hunt, please send us some reports, pics, etc. If you're locked down share some interesting old trip reports.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]Well Said. Hopefully we can get back to some normalcy soon.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2454267]If you made a trip every week for 13 years straight it still wouldn't even be 700 trips. I don't buy it.[/QUOTE]I don't know about DonCarlos' pattern of mongering visits.

But I do know numerous mongers who live in or near San Diego (close to the border) and they make four, five, sometimes as many as six day trips to La Zone every week. They might visit LZ 200 to 250 times a year and often carpool together.

[QUOTE=RikyMichaels7;2454272]And you and Chinatown are giving credibility to the authorities of Tijuana. Now let's talk about who is pulling stuff out of their behinds.[/QUOTE]Would you like to try to rephrase this again LOL?

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2454402]I don't know about DonCarlos' pattern of mongering visits.

But I do know numerous mongers who live in or near San Diego (close to the border) and they make four, five, sometimes as many as six day trips to La Zone every week. They might visit LZ 200 to 250 times a year and often carpool together.[/QUOTE]Possibly if going almost every single day.

I wonder if they could keep that up for 10 years straight.

Hargrow comes to mind. Seems that he went several times a week sometimes.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2454419]Possibly if going almost every single day.

I wonder if they could keep that up for 10 years straight.

Hargrow comes to mind. Seems that he went several times a week sometimes.[/QUOTE]Back in 2006 another monger (who visited daily 5 days a week when he would complete his graveyard shift) visited La Zona, driving in daily everyday at 8:30 AM. His Tijuana Amigos handle was JTULL2 and he introduced me (during the two years we hung together) to more than a dozen other mongers that were in LZ on nearly a daily basis. Some I no longer see in La Zona, others I still regularly see there when I visit. I probably go to La Zona five or six times a year (average trip length 4 or 5 days long) and some of these dudes I touch base with on every trip down. Many keep regular rooms at Leyva or HDS that they rent on a monthly basis, yet they have regular jobs & homes in San Diego County.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2454402]I don't know about DonCarlos' pattern of mongering visits.

But I do know numerous mongers who live in or near San Diego (close to the border) and they make four, five, sometimes as many as six day trips to La Zone every week. They might visit LZ 200 to 250 times a year and often carpool together.[/QUOTE]I'd go at least twice a week if I lived within an hour of Tijuana.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2454397]Hi All,

While Covid is on everyone's mind, let's keep this forum alive with what it is intented for, sharing info and experiences of mongering. All who opine about data and share links of virus news are, at best, guessing. It's Novel for a reason. How it will play out will be determined in time. For those who are not concerned, that is perfectly fine. For those who are concerned, that is also perfectly fine. All a matter of choice. But leave the covid news (and its political opinions) out. We all have access to info and will seek it out ourselves.

If you're able to go hunt, please send us some reports, pics, etc. If you're locked down share some interesting old trip reports.

Happy Hunting.[/QUOTE]OK. Fair enough.

I drove down yesterday. I sailed though the SY crossing. The guards were just standing around, and I don't recall seeing anybody pulled into the inspection areas.

Traffic in Tijuana is lighter than usual, but it is picking up week over week. I drove over to the LOS Alamos area and picked up the BJ Queen. We then proceeded to our favorite motel and spent the next 4+ hours in the jacuzzi and bed.

When I returned I crossed via Otay. There was a 20 minute wait, for some inexplicable reason. Maybe a shift change, but they seemed to be taking a long time for each car. Until about 4 cars ahead of me. Then they started moving rapidly. The drug sniffing dog was being taken through other lanes. The agent simply asked if I had anything to declare, didn't even take my card, and waved me through.

So, if you already know somebody, it's a good time to visit. Traffic is light and the motels are open. I've gone once a week for the last four weeks. My only gripe is that none of my favorite restaurants are open for sit-down service.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2454419]Possibly if going almost every single day.

I wonder if they could keep that up for 10 years straight.

Hargrow comes to mind. Seems that he went several times a week sometimes.[/QUOTE]If going almost every single day.

Why would you need much more than 3 years straight for 700 trips?

Using my third grade math.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2454402]I don't know about DonCarlos' pattern of mongering visits.

But I do know numerous mongers who live in or near San Diego (close to the border) and they make four, five, sometimes as many as six day trips to La Zone every week. They might visit LZ 200 to 250 times a year and often carpool together.[/QUOTE]If you knew me, you would understand. BTW some people from MX cross the border 5 times a week for work. Sentri helps. I think you will see a lot open by July 1st. Hotel girls are open now. Not cheap.