First Time Palace-FFK Visit Questions
Getting ready for my first FKK experience in just a couple of weeks now and have a few questions. First off, thanks to the ISG community for supplying a great education upfront. I've definitely made full use of the extensive reports and threads.
Heading to Frankfurt, and will make base at a hotel very close to Palace. I hear a lot of back and forth about the merits (or lack there of) of Palace vs. other Hessen clubs, especially for first timers, but I've decided that it's really the best option for me. There seem to be lots of reports that Palace is not newbie friendly, but I'm pretty sure I can handle it. I'm an experienced mongerer and strip club aficianado, and I picture Palace, and other FKKs, to be not that far off from a couple of clubs I frequent that are essentially brothels disguised as strip clubs, probably just taken to a higher level (and I hope with prettier girls!). Will definitely be on the lookout for the optifucks, and think the instincts developed in seeking out only the best lapdances or private booth dances will serve me well...but I do have a few questions:
1) Have pretty much decided to stay put at Palace for my three day stay, but just wondering if I did want to take a taxi from Neuen Borse hotel to Oase, about how much would I be talking? If I wanted to use public transportation, do I need to head back into Frankfurt Central and then out (well documented itinerary), or is there a more direct option from Neun Borse?
2) Session charges - couldn't really find a clear answer for this one: suppose you go for an hour session and CIM twice (hey I like blowjobs), do you get two add-ons for CIM or one (150E or 200E)? Does CIM aslo mean Come on face? or is that another extra...for instance, I shoot and go in the mouth and on the face, is that two extras or still just one?
3) The club is booked up, and there is a wait for a room. Do the girls typically extend the "couch time" the entire wait time, or are you typically, just hanging out waiting? What happens if you're waiting for a long time, say 20 minutes for a room, and you lose your load before you ever get to a room? Guessing you still pay the standard fee, plus any extras?
4) If I just wanted a session or two with just a long teasing lapdance and HJ, would that just be the standard 50E charge?
5) Sounds like the norm here is more once you cum the session is over, even if you have time left. Is that something that needs to be negotiated upfront...for instance, that if you cum before the session is up, that you want a massage until time is up...or is it really just case by case once you are in that situation? If I have an extra 10 minutes here or there, I'd just as soon get my money's worth vs. cash and dash.
6) If you go for a multi-hour session, I assume you have a little more leeway with the number of times you can cum per session. Seems to be 1 per 1/2 hour is max...so if I went for a 2 hour session and wanted to cum, say, 3 times, that should not be a problem? Are girls more or less inclined to go for a multi-hour session, given that they might actually turn 1 hour into 90 minutes with three quick sessions?
7) Where are the best places to hang out between sessions? a) when you are looking for more action b) when you really would rather just be left alone for while
Sorry for all the questions guys...just want to be fully prepared. Look forward to providing a full report afterwards and "giving back" to the community...thanks for any help you can offer.
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There are FKK girls who work, and there are FKK girls who are at Palace
i had a pretty miserable time at palace last saturday night.
i arrived very late. as i had to pick someone up fom the airport early in the morning, it was either palace or nothing.
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throughout the night i would say 80% of the girls i spoke to are romanian.
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this was also the case on saturday. i rejected at least ten girls who approached, all of them romanians, and all because they wanted to go to “zimmer” within twenty seconds of saying hi. what is more, on closer observation, it was quite clear by the end that many were being orchestrated by a handful of young shaven-haired “guests”, their pimps to all intents and purposes.
when i did go to the room, it was twice with romanians who were a bit cleverer in the preliminaries, once with a german and once with a “spaniard”, also i am sure from bucaresti. the last is forgiven, because she was the only one to offer decent service. otherwise it was absolutely pathetic, apart from the optics. although i checked with each beforehand, the kissing was perfunctory, as was bbbj or 69 as soon as little tosc rose, and it was on with the cap asap, however i might encourage otherwise. it was always a battle of wills, which i could only win, if i nailed them down in missionary and kept going and kept going until the 30 mins were more or less up. not my idea of a session. in three of the four sessions i refused to come at the end, which is the only thing that disconcerts them, because they are focused on this as every guest’s sole aim. they do not even realise how cynical they have obviously become. a result of messe-processing, as one of them ultimately admitted, when she wanted to know why i reacted so.
a complaint at the reception would have been absolutely pointless, as i’d already had a run-in with the old shrew who had made me so wonderfully welcome on entering. compare that with the solicitous welcome and great attitude of management at, for example, living room.
for the record:
clara, slim blonde cracker from romania. she’s already on the blacklist (rogers), which i’d been unable to consult. terrible attitude.
lilly, another great slim blonde from germany. rogers also complained about a lilly, but her description doesn’t fit. this one’s from nürnberg. poor attitude.
adela, perhaps 20, light brown hair, not so slim, nice b breasts, romania. she gives great kisses wherever you meet her (in my case she almost had me toppling off the barstool), but beware, it goes downhill very rapidly in the room. we were really pissed off with each other by the end. jackyo, this one should be straight on the blacklist.
helena, black hair, great smile, very curvy with natural c breasts, very soft everywhere. from “madrid” in romania. good bbbj, no problems with multiple positions, and after three abstentions, i permitted her a cim finish which almost drowned her out. lol.
after this experience i wonder whether the club can really be considered as part of the fkk tradition any more.
i sent this message to the website after i got home. only if you’re interested. doubt if it’ll do any good.
"hallo,
ich war am vergangenen samstagabend spät bei euch „gast“. es war bei weitem nicht das erste mal, aber höchstwahrscheinlich das letzte.
nach einer anreise von mehreren stunden wurde ich – wie immer eigentlich guter laune und auf keinen fall etwa angeheitert - von einer älteren dame mit sehr frecher lippe begrüsst, so herzlich eigentlich, dass ich nachgefragt habe, ob ich überhaupt willkommen sei. schwersten herzens hat sie mir einlass gewährt.
was folgte, war noch schlechter. nach dem motto: es gibt fkk-mädchen, die arbeiten, und es gibt fkk-mädchen, die bei palace sind. von den vier mädchen, die ich kennengelernt habe, war bei dreien nach ankunft im zimmer nicht die spur einer arbeitsmoral zu erkennen. ziel war es, den kunden schnellstmöglich abzufertigen und dabei so wenig wie möglich zu leisten. dabei vergessend, dass nicht alle gäste ahnungslose touristen sind, und dass der klub eigentlich auch von stammgästen lebt. ein jammer. sie können sich vorstellen, wie aussichtsreich eine beschwerde bei meiner freundin am eingang gewesen wäre.
ich kenne fkk-klubs im ganzen lande. es war nicht immer so bei palace, aber bei dieser entwicklung ist ihr klub auf dem besten weg, die beispielhafte fkk-tradition zu ruinieren."
About the not-so-palatial experience at Palace
Toscana,
First, thanks for your report. You are yet another of those on the growing list of anti-Palace mongers of late...and from the content of your report, with good reason.
First, I just came back about 10 days ago from a week in Frankfurt where I spent many a (happy) night at Palace. It was definitely over-run at times, because of a large Messe, which made mongering conditions very much less than optimal, i.e. rather poor. Yet, despite this, I was still able to have some really top notch sessions.
I did NOT monger with any Romanians at Palace, and although I saw a few of them, I did not encounter a situation like you and others: 80% Romanians. I encountered throughout the week, a fully diverse and very deep line-up with all kinds of girls from all over the place. I stayed firmly amongst the (rather large) group of tried and tested girls who I've known from Palace or ex-Oase girls. I did alot of sessions with Russians to very good effect. I was also very impressed by the line-up and general conditions at Palace BEFORE 20.00. I found some very good opportunities and choices at Palace during the period 16.00-19.00. Then the crowds arrived and it went downhill.
I know, I seem to be about the only one who likes Palace these days, and I accept that I am seeing things different than alot. It sounds like you were able to correctly analyse the fact that many of these new Romanian girls are actually being "directed" around by their skin-head pimps. I did not see any of this during my recent visits, but then there were such crowds it was hard to direct anything. Too bad, it sounds like Palace has some work to do, if they care to do that is...
Your Palace experience sounds alot different from mine. Thanks again for the report...
Ortos
The "New Generation of Romanians vs the "Old Generation"
[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Just to verify: This is Chiara or Kiara from Romania.
And there are girls from Romania at Palace providing decent service. Here's some:
Chris(tina), Elisa, Olympia, Ramona, Deborah, Sandra, Claudia, the two Danielas.
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Quite right, Hessen Bub, reminds us that there is an "older generation" of Romanians at Palace who do provide decent service. It's tough for the newbie visitor to distinguish who are the "old" and "who" are the new...except this business of bringing up the "Zimmer" within 20 seconds of first conversation is a bit of a give-away, no?
