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[QUOTE=Knight 1001]It is no wonder that to make ends meet, these girls have in fact to accept to have sex with the customers, not necessarily in the place but usually outside.[/QUOTE]In terms of finances, what you say is true for just about any girl working at a low-skilled job in Jakarta. Working 9-5 is only going to get you about Rp1m/month, which is pathetic for anybody putting in 8 hours/day of labor. What I can't figure out is why some of these girls bother to work for "chump change" when they can go out with 3 bules a month and net out the same - or in many cases - much better.

The growth of Karaoke houses in Blok M is a real plus. The girls get off at 12.30-1.00am and make their way to the Faletehan bars, usually in packs of 3. I haven't seen any stunners, but in my experience they are all "cuties" - shy, demure and trained to pamper just the way the Japanese like them. The 3 karaoke girls that I have taken were all quite GFE, stayed the night (and I welcomed them to do so) and were delighted with Rp350k slipped into their back pocket in the morning. Two of them even SMSed me New Year's greetings. If you stay out late enough to catch them, they are a breath of fresh air on a stale mongering scene.

I'm proud that the Japanese have done karaoke the smart way in Jakarta by not spoiling the girls. In Vietnam the girls who work at Japanese Karaoke are so spoiled as to be useless. Similar story in Bangkok and Shanghai.

On a different note, I took a GF who I know from Atrium to a movie at Blok M Plaza. She informed me that Blok M Plaza is the same as Atrium for cewek pickup. I certainly saw a lot of sweet young things walking around. The layout of the place is fairly conducive with lots of spots for girls to hang out. When I thought about it, it would certainly make sense considering the Plaza is a stone's throw for many working girl's "offices." I can imagine many girls who go there in the afternoon to hang out before work starts in the evening. I would be interested in any experiences other mongers might have. Enjoy JKT, AsianRain

Asian Rain - you are right when you say "I took a GF who I know from Atrium to a movie at Blok M Plaza. She informed me that Blok M Plaza is the same as Atrium for cewek pickup". In my experience, Blok M Plaza is better in the evening and especially around the cinema on the top floor. Anyone interested might search on that as I posted a report a few months ago about picking up a girl at the cinema in the early evening. I have picked up girl in Blok M Plaza at other times but I think evening is best - whereas I would go to Atrium around late morning/early afternoon.

It could be a different version - you have to sign in first to get the drop down menu which includes "Yahoo chat".

Another way of learning which might yield interesting results is to go into a warnet and ask a girl who is already in YM for her help! There is one in Blok M Plaza - see my and Asian Rain's report - try there and if you have no luck at least you might find a girl at the cinema!

Rented a private car for 12 hours ( got 9.5 that's ok) 400,000 plus gas and fees. As this is my first trip wanted to take a look around the city. Had the driver stopped over for 2 hours at Alexis Hotel. Total cost was about 1,050,000 for an Indonesian girl (makes no sense for me to pay more to get Chinese as I will be flying back to China shortly). It looks in alot of ways like a newer Macau sauna with moderately less amenities (i.e., no free food, internet, wash girls, etc.) but of course at 65% of the cost. Almost jumped into one of the jacuzzis butt naked (they do this in Macau) but saw everyone else had their shorts on. The best girls here match up with the best of Macau. In fact you really know what your getting as its much brighter. The room itself was the best I've seen. Real GFE as lots of DATY plus FK. I was a bit disappointed as I wanted a good massage also. I'll come back here if I ever make it back to Jakarta. Later walked over to bars near Top Gun started at I think Oscars. Most were more empty than filled. I was walking into one empty bar when I ran into a drunk guy from New Zealand with two ladies in toll. He invited me over to Top Gun for drinks with them at about midnight. It later became obvious at about 3am that he changed his mind about taking his two girls home. One became enraged and almost poured water all over him. That one asked me to take her but she really wasn't my type. At that point I figured it was best to leave paid 20,000 for a taxi ride back to Golden Melawai. After reading a few updated reports will try the Blok M mall next.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]It could be a different version - you have to sign in first to get the drop down menu which includes "Yahoo chat".

Another way of learning which might yield interesting results is to go into a warnet and ask a girl who is already in YM for her help! There is one in Blok M Plaza - see my and Asian Rain's report - try there and if you have no luck at least you might find a girl at the cinema![/QUOTE]

Yes, you're right Bulai, I realised later that my version of YM was downloaded via the UK website, and I recalled from the dim and distant past something about these being closed. Something to do with predatory older men hitting on younger ladies, shocking, it really shouldn't be allowed!

Anyway I got the US version and I'm up and running many thanks for your advice, excellent as always.

[QUOTE=Knight 1001]I just wanted to share with you guys what I have found out from a girl that I have met through a dating site, and happens to be working in a karaoke in nblok M. Seems to confirm that a 300 000 to 350 000 Rups for the blok girls is somewhat fair, if what she said is true. But maybe some of you who frequent those places (I do not) could cross check that.

If she gets a customer, she is given 5000 Rups per cocktail she orders and in a good night she can get (from her boss) around 100 000 Rups overall. Of course to which you have to add the potential tips from the customer.

It is no wonder that to make ends meet, these girls have in fact to accept to have sex with the customers, not necessarily in the place but usually outside.

It seems that the prices for the room in the karaoke for the evening are 165 000 Rups and the cost for the girls presence is 37 000 Rups per hour, minimum charge 3 hours.

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I went by one karaoke bar and just asked questions to the person who met me when I came in. He showed me around the different rooms, that some come with extra rooms with showers and I believe beds. He explained that there was a price per hour for their rooms but a minimum booking is 3 hours. The women were 400k at this place for them to sit with you. I asked him what the women got out of that and he told me they got 60% of it, making it 240k at that bar. The woman would stay with you for the duration of your visit. Don't know what cut they get out of the drinks and stuff. This was for one particular place in Blok M, don't know what the average place there is doing.

dear fellow mongers,

in an effort to stay close to home i found a good place to go if you are in the kampung melayu area...its actually near lapangan roos off of casablanca. if you turn on smp 115 you hit a street full of skateboard clothing shops, food stalls and little warungs. as you go in on the left maybe 50 meters in youll see a tiny spa. went there today and got a sensual massage which lated all of maybe five minutes before the first offer came in. i dont know, but it seemed reasonable to me 350k for full service (though they say very clearly that stuff lie that is not on the menu if you ask it inevitably is) the therapist was bella a nice tight spinner...i could see she had probably had a baby because of a c-section scar (very small) but she was so insanely tight i could barley stick a finger in her, in the end she gave me the pussy rubbing dry hump of my life. when i was getting close i asked her to finish me off and she asked me for 20 more seconds because she was coming... gotta love that. didn't get the fs but got a damn good rub since being the idiot i am i forgot the condoms. like i said her body was tight and i wanted as much as i could, in the end i came, she came and we both parted ways. i youre not married to an indonesian it is very unlikely your wife etc... will ever come this way so it seems like a good place to go for a modicum of privacy and service that in my opinion was good and eager. i highly recommend this tebet area spa to anyone that asks.

[QUOTE=Asian Rain]In terms of finances, what you say is true for just about any girl working at a low-skilled job in Jakarta. Working 9-5 is only going to get you about Rp1m/month, which is pathetic for anybody putting in 8 hours/day of labor. What I can't figure out is why some of these girls bother to work for "chump change" when they can go out with 3 bules a month and net out the same - or in many cases - much better...[/QUOTE]
I've also often wondered the same question, and after 3+ years of mongering here, I can think of at least a few reasons:

1) Financial Security - unless the girl is a stunner, there's no guarantee that she'll go out with at least 3 bules a month. She might get lucky some months, while other months she might strike out. Working 9-5 at a mall, or a karaoke bar, or wherever, guarantees at least a minimum amount of money to pay for food, housing, pulsa for her cell phone, etc.

2) Social Aspect - Indonesians are among the most social and group-oriented people I've ever met, and I've lived and worked (or at least visited) over 75 countries in my life. If a girl has a job, even a do-nothing or do-little job, she still gets to socialize with others, which beats hanging around doing nothing. Remember also that most of these girls live in a one-room apartment, usually shared with others, in a crappy neighborhood, with a common toilet down the alley - hardly a place that's fun to hang around in all day.

3) Possibility of the "big hit" - working 8 to 10 hours a day, 6 days a week, increases the opportunity/possibility to meet a bule who might be their "Prince Charming," or at least increases the possibility of finding a customer for the night. Just read the reports here on Bulai69 and other mongers picking up SPG's and other mall shops employees to learn how easy it is to hook up with these girls

4) Self-Image and Reputation With the Family back home - as has been written here under the topic of PTP-versus-freebies/amateurs, most Indonesian girls have a lot of pride and would rather not think of themselves as prostitutes. So, having a job, even a low-paying job, provides a cover of respectability to their lives. My experience is that, while not all of them, most of the girls would rather be happily married and in a stable home situation instead of hitting the bars or working in a MP; the reason why they are out selling their bodies is that they need the money to support their kids/families back home, etc.

[QUOTE=Asian Rain]What I can't figure out is why some of these girls bother to work for "chump change" when they can go out with 3 bules a month and net out the same - or in many cases - much better.[/QUOTE]Let me guess, they keep the tips and that may amount to quite a sum. Some may be there for the dope. Most will be there because they need some affiliation or "protection" to be able to operate at all. That protection comes at a price, in other words some of the money you give the girl is owned to the karaoke or to sundry mama- and papasans working with the karaokes.

The scale of the racket to which those girls are subjected often escapes our notice, not least because the girls themselves had rather not talk about it. For example, you would think that Maribaya girls keep half of what they earn, right? I thought as much until one Maribaya girl confessed giving half of what she kept to a mamasan; in other words what she was left with was [b]a quarter[/b] of what you handed out to her at Maribaya. You paid her 400 thousand in 6th floor and she took no more 100 thousand home. You never saw a mamasan at Maribaya's, neither did I for no mamasan ever sets foot in 6th floor. What had happened is that a mamasan had introduced (= brought over) the girl to Maribaya and that seemed enough to entitle the mamasan to half what the girl would ever get out of Maribaya. This recalls the pimps who tour the countryside to spot good-looking girls and buy them off from their families, except the role of the mamasan here is much more modest, consisting in little more than coming across the destitute girl hanging out around Monas at night and convincing her she could make good money "working". That was enough for the girl to have a "debt" ("utang", an ominous word in Indonesia) towards mamasan. As far as I know such debts never get paid off nor is any actual amount ever put on them. "Ada utang" (you have a debt) is as much a threat as a reminder of a financial liability.

In kota knocking-shops girls get nothing, not even food. In Sari Ayu (Pangeran Jayakarta), Mala, a girl remarkable for her Brazilian-grade tail-end, insisted I should tip her 100 thousand instead of my usual 50 thousand because "her menstruation was coming". I was puzzled, if anything her impending menstruation should have induced me to tip her less since she would be unavailable until my departure from Jakarta and any extra tip would be wasted as an incentive for good service. Then she explained she had to save tips ahead of her week off menstruating because she needed some cash to pay for food. Having been a gold-mine to her owners for the past two years has no even entitled her to free nasi goreng on her days of idleness.

If I were a Jakarta resident instead of a very occasional monger with not a day to lose, I would try to stick to mall-hunting so that as much as possible of my money would go to the girls. It costs me little to say this since I have (alas) no prospect of ever becoming a Jakarta resident.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]

Another way of learning which might yield interesting results is to go into a warnet and ask a girl who is already in YM for her help! There is one in Blok M Plaza - see my and Asian Rain's report - try there and if you have no luck at least you might find a girl at the cinema![/QUOTE]


I was in Blok M plaza about three weeks ago looking for an internet cafe. I couldn't find either of the two that used to be there. So I asked the informationdesk. No more warnet (internet cafe) in the building she said. But, lucky enough, the cinema is still there :D

Was staying at the Mercure Rekso but did not partake of any of the local delights. I was much too tired. But I was fresh as can be early in the morning. So after a shower and breakfast, I considered an in-hotel massage. The problem was that the girls I saw while working out last time I was here were all fairly hefty women, not exactly to my liking. And I had a flight to catch at 1pm.

So I took a stroll to the Stadium around 8:00 am. I had heard that the place operates non-stop on weekends, and lo, the place was busier on a Saturday morning than I've seen other places in evenings. Incredible. The third floor was closed, as was the massage place. But the disco had quite a few people, and there was some action on the 2nd floor but it was almost pitch black.

Most people were with friends and there were no girls looking. Not a surprise given how few mongers are likely to show up at 8am. And many people were on their way out after partying all night. So I got a can of Guinness on the first floor, and watched people coming and going.

There was a group of girls waiting around, obviously exhausted. They paid me no mind. I was eyeing one of them, but reckoned that this was a long shot, even in Stadium, so I waited until I caught the eye of a rather skinny girl. I smiled and waved. She beckoned. I ended up buying her a cup of coffee.

I was brutally honest. I told her I was leaving in a few hours and found her very attractive and wondered if she'd come back to my hotel room for a bit. She was astonished. She said she lived far away and was planning to leave with friends. So I promised to pay her taxi fare and to see her next time I'm in town. So she told her friends and declared her coffee undrinkable and we left.

The girl had no tits to speak of but was very nice and slender. She said she was 24 but looked a little older. Has a child but it wasn't obvious. We took a shower together and had a very nice hour. She wasn't the best I've had but lubed up naturally. She was sweet and gentle. It ended nicely.

She said she worked in a massage/sauna place about an hour from Jakarta and had to be there by 1 pm. Suited my schedule.

After that she said Stadium is a dangerous place and that her hand phone had been stolen that night. I doubt this was true, she didn't look upset or distraught. But I gave her 500,000 anyway. She acted disappointed, saying that would barely cover the taxi fare. I explained I usually would pay about 200,000 but gave her the extra 300,000 because of the phone. But magically she remained affectionate and sweet.

All in all a good experience. But I am not likely to repeat it. Stadium, even early in the morning, is a bit outside my comfort zone. If you don't know Indonesian, you will have a difficult time. The entire area around Mercure Rekso is full of night clubs and massage and karaoke places. It would be fun to explore but I do not recommend exploring on your own. Best to go with an Indonesian if possible.

The best bit came at the airport. The girl who checked my ticket was very pretty. I asked her to come with me. She laughed and said she'd be glad to. After I checked in, I noticed her near the Garuda guys who put the yellow ribbon on your luggage. I went back to her and asked if she would like to come with me again. A short chat later and I had her HP number. Will definitely use it next time I'm in town.

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ABCinLA - further to your report - note that it's Blok M PLAZA mall to which the recent reports referred not the bigger, more up-market mall(s) at the other end of the stret market, although you can "hunt" in there as well. If so start at the food market / cafe area downstairs in Pasar Raya. It's worth noting that most 5 star hotel provide a free Silver Bird taxi ride to Pasar Raya and also a free ride back if you buy something there (though not, I suspect, if you buy what most readers of this forum might be looking for)

You say "..being the idiot I am I forgot the condoms.." - I am sure you are not an idiot but I would suggest that wherever you in Jakarta, especially the kind of place you describe, you can get someone to produce a packet of condoms in an instant if you provide the cost plus a reasonable tip. Just by way of example, I once checked in to an Ibis hotel when I've found a girl who was too urchin-like to take back to my hotel (that's VERY urchin-like) and I didn't have any condoms but the guy who showed us to the room quickly produced some for 20k plus cost.

Warnet(s) or not, I am quite sure you will mange to stumble on other opportunites! If you want a warnet in Blok M there is a large one in the basement of the old mall halfway between Pasar Raya and the Blok M Plaza, at least there was a month ago. It's very cheap but very slow though full of gadis cantik...maybe you should try there?

Any mall or basically any place in Jakarta is a pickup spot. But Blok M mall is nowhere near what Atrium is for an easy pickup. I wouldn't rate Blok M plaza as a good pickup spot at all.

Menteng is right, there are no internet cafes in Blok M plaza anymore.