Hong Kong Club Reports

Hello,

Seeing some good information of some bad news, but I am asking so I can summarize the information. THis is all worst case scenerio when a man does not negotiate.

Entrance Fee: $5??

Room rate: $40 ??

Girl: $150? (Range is $100 to $120 to $150?

Drinks: $5 for beers (+ $1 on all drinks).

Coat Man Tip: $1.

Room Man Tip: $1.

Any other tips?

Asking for someone to reply by removing the question marks or correcting the prices.

If the table above is right, it's now $195 to take a girl upstairs (used to be $130, without tipping at all)?

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2796397]Hello,

Seeing some good information of some bad news, but I am asking so I can summarize the information. THis is all worst case scenerio when a man does not negotiate.

Entrance Fee: $5

Room rate: $40

Girl: $100

Drinks: $5 for beers (+ $1 on all drinks).

Coat Man Tip: $1.

Room Man Tip: $1.

Any other tips?

Asking for someone to reply by removing the question marks or correcting the prices.

If the table above is right, it's now $195 to take a girl upstairs (used to be $130, without tipping at all)?[/QUOTE]Without negotiating I say $100 for arriba with most of the HK girls is the standard for 30 minutes, of course no GFE at all, if you do negotiate you can get those service for extra tip or even for no extra charge.

[QUOTE=RedBaron78;2796247]Of course they raised prices again. I've been going monthly for 3 years. Prices were the same for about a year. 2 years ago they raised prices for lady drinks. Only $1 price hike. But after that they raised prices on everything. They recently just raised prices on everything again. HK is raising prices have crept up pretty quickly the last 2 years. As long as they don't see a downward spiral of customers, prices will consistently creap up. Next time I check out of Cascadas and they guys are waiting for a tip, I'll tell them I made a mistake by drinking their $4 bottled water. I'll apologize and let them know HK took their tip.[/QUOTE]LOL too many guys sitting with their buds talking not buying vip lap dances for $30 after the treasured tip to tbr vip lap dance guy. Not enough sex going in with the $40 dollar room fee or the $150 to $200 price of many of the girls. Hk has to get that money one way or the other. I quit drinking by 95% since I left Tijuana and san diegob2 months ago. I am saving a fortune even though all of my drinking was in Tijuana. Beers in Florida strip club a few weeks ago were $4. 50 but you get free shot when you walk in of everything. I think what hk needs to install, is some kind of program where the wealthy people can easily buy everyone a drink. Since these guys can't spend their money fast enough. In NYC last week some guy bought everyone a drink at some whole in Wall bar but there was like 200 people in the place.

I'm in Tijuana now and until Saturday mornng. Was in the club last night. This is my5th trip and HK has always been my go to spot. I like that I get a good look at the girls before committing. I'm skeptical about an outcall from an escort or agency, since the photo rarely reflect the girls appearance. I don't spend a lot of time / money trying to "romance" the girls. If I like what I see, I just point at my Riso de Oro wrist band and ask if they want to go to my room.

Last night, I had my eye on a very pretty, petite, short haired blond. More European in looks than Hispanic. She wanted 120, I counted with 100 and it was on. Great time with her, non-GFE, CBJ, DATY, multiple position with some play around the ass. She was every engaged and seemed to enjoy the half hour. I have plans to see her again today before she goes into the club.

Additional:

$6 mixed drinks, I don't like beer, but had a rum and coke with $1 for the mesero.

$1 for the robe guy. My room, so can't vouch for a room fee.

$10 for the mini beer for the girl plus $1 tip.

I didn't find the meseros any more aggressive than usual.

I spoke at length with a monger from SD that say he comes every week and the girls will accept 80 in most cases. He claims that the girls all know him, so they know what to expect. He claims that by coming on nights other than the weekend, that the girls are willing to accept the lower rate.

[QUOTE=LitmusSmut;2796397]Hello,

Seeing some good information of some bad news, but I am asking so I can summarize the information. THis is all worst case scenerio when a man does not negotiate.

Entrance Fee: $5??

Room rate: $40 ??

Girl: $150? (Range is $100 to $120 to $150?

Drinks: $5 for beers (+ $1 on all drinks).

Coat Man Tip: $1.

Room Man Tip: $1.

Any other tips?

Asking for someone to reply by removing the question marks or correcting the prices.

If the table above is right, it's now $195 to take a girl upstairs (used to be $130, without tipping at all)?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=RedBaron78;2796162]Haha well one of these days we'll meet up. I usually fly in Sundays and leave Tuesdays. I'm almost positive I know who Diabla is. She is beautiful but she knows it. She stands there like a stuck up ***** most of the time. She's on her phone a lot. I've asked some of the BG's about her. To be honest, very few of them have anything nice to say. They say she thinks she's above everyone else. They also say she'll only talk to customers she thinks have a lot of money. Just from observing her, I think she thinks her shit doesn't stink. I'd be surprised if she were fun in the room. Next time you're there, test her out and let me know. Haha.[/QUOTE]Diabla looks like an 8 for a white girl. Sure she is latina and not anglo, but she looks like she is part anglo. I guess that makes her exotic if you are Mexican. But I live in San Diego and she is kind of plain Jane, and kind of flat chested with no ass. I guess that some guys like that white girl look and that is her redeeming quality.

1. Can easily avoid entrance fee by going Sunday to Thursday or before 5/6/7 pm on Friday & Saturday.

2. I think it's best to stay in a room vs pay for 1/2 hour to hour.

3. The rate should be just $100. Either negotiate or move on.

4. Tips probably at least $1 maybe $2 to keep them happy.

What's the going rate to take a girl for the whole night if she's working at the moment? Do you also have to pay HK a fee?

[QUOTE=Rainman306;2796486]1. Can easily avoid entrance fee by going Sunday to Thursday or before 5/6/7 pm on Friday & Saturday.

2. I think it's best to stay in a room vs pay for 1/2 hour to hour.

3. The rate should be just $100. Either negotiate or move on.

4. Tips probably at least $1 maybe $2 to keep them happy.[/QUOTE]Some guys will always complain. Yes, HK is more expensive and dangerous, but unless you are living in Cave, everything is now more expensive and dangerous. HK is still the cheapest game in town, sorry.

All the guys that wanted a lockdown, now deal with consequences, this is what happens when you shutdown down economies.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2796501]What's the going rate to take a girl for the whole night if she's working at the moment? Do you also have to pay HK a fee?[/QUOTE]Mexico is not gona be organized like buying something in USA. So the going rate can vary. How deep are your pockets? Typically if you have to ask, the answer is forget about it. Lets throw a # out there. Let's say you meet her at 11 pm so she had chance to bang 2 guys already. She may stay with you whole night for 1200. Some would say more. But the hotels gona be up your ass with buying "beer" buckets. Once the hotel. Guys get wind you got $$ they Gina keep banging on door, once their friends get wind, they gona bang on door, keep trying to get you to buy crap. Now let's say none of this bothers you. What the hell are you doing with a girl all night? She not gona just have sex as much as you want. She's gona expect to sleep. She's gona be looking at her phone.

There's good chance her personality is one you want to pay to have her take off not pay to stay.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2796501]What's the going rate to take a girl for the whole night if she's working at the moment? Do you also have to pay HK a fee?[/QUOTE]

My experience has been that HK / Cascadas wants a $300 fee for taking one of "their" girls for the night. A day shift HK girl came to spend the night with me after her shift. Security caught her and escorted her to my room, and said I had to pay $300 for her to spend the night. She had spent the night with me 5-6 times a year for the previous five years; never a fee to the hotel. And I have had other HK and BT girls spend the night without a fee over the years. Suddenly they wanted $300. I protested and negotiated it down to $200 "because you didn't know about the fee, we will let it go for $200 this time, but next time it is $300." (I considered taking the girl to another hotel, but it was late and I didn't want the grief.) Anyway, expect to pay a "bar fine" if you have a girl in your room for an hour or more. I was quoted $100 for one hour, $200 for two hours, or $300 for the night. And on top of that, the girl expects to be paid for her time.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2796501]What's the going rate to take a girl for the whole night if she's working at the moment? Do you also have to pay HK a fee?[/QUOTE]It's whatever the girl wants. And yes, the HK fee will probably be more than the girl. Unless you're in love, it's probably not worth taking an off shift HK girl to your room.

[QUOTE=Aviator400;2796526]My experience has been that HK / Cascadas wants a $300 fee for taking one of "their" girls for the night. A day shift HK girl came to spend the night with me after her shift. Security caught her and escorted her to my room, and said I had to pay $300 for her to spend the night. She had spent the night with me 5-6 times a year for the previous five years; never a fee to the hotel. And I have had other HK and BT girls spend the night without a fee over the years. Suddenly they wanted $300. I protested and negotiated it down to $200 "because you didn't know about the fee, we will let it go for $200 this time, but next time it is $300." (I considered taking the girl to another hotel, but it was late and I didn't want the grief.) Anyway, expect to pay a "bar fine" if you have a girl in your room for an hour or more. I was quoted $100 for one hour, $200 for two hours, or $300 for the night. And on top of that, the girl expects to be paid for her time.[/QUOTE]There is honestly no set up price for any of this stuff. HK will try to get as much as they can out of you. They typically say it's a bucket of beer for $50 if she's in your room over an hour. I've been told a few times for $50 I can keep her all night. A guy in the room next to mine was charged $100 for the same thing. They just started being more consistent charging for extra time about a year ago. And they're still not consistent at it. Prices are never consistent at HK. Over time they learn what people are willing to pay and start charging that. Had they said no to $200 they are losing money if that same girl went back down to HK and didn't end up getting at least 20 more drinks that night.

If you can't get a half hour for $80 from at least 50% of the girls in HK then your negotiating skills are simply not up to par. The rest should be no more than $100, although sharks will try to get 120-150 if they smell blood. Don't be afraid to call their bluff and stand firm at 100. If they still aren't budging, move on. You don't want to session with a girl that's trying to hustle you anyway. She will give you the starfish treatment.

The bigger problem is the high rollers and narcos that hang out at the club throwing hundreds and thousands at these girls for practically nothing. Guys paying girls hundreds to hang out and drink with them and not even bang, not realizing that the girls will sit there and drink with you for "free" as long as you keep them coming. No reason to give them extra money on top of that. A guy offered one of my girls $1k to hang out in his room at Cascadas this weekend during her shift because she won't see him outside of the club. She didn't quote him the 1k, he offered. This past weekend he also gave $1k to one of her friends at the club for going back to his hotel in Revolucion for a 3 hour session. She probably would have done it for $250 or $300. If these girls gather a handful of these type of clients, that's all they need. No wonder some of these girls are gone for weeks at a time.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2795629] Because $40 room fee, on top of everything else, is alot of $ for weekly guys. All your gona be left with is the once a year dudes that fly in 2 days every 5 months. They lost me as a customer. I used to rent those 12 dollar rooms once or twice a week 6 months a year. Then the whole thing became so unaffordable, .[/QUOTE]I agree HK / Cascadas inflation is outrageous and they are or will start loosing customers. Just a matter of time.

They need competition both for club quality, quality / quantity of girls in the club and room quality.

It is a not easy for competitors to catch up.

Adelitas & Chicago probably have the best shot. But it would take major changes to become like HK.

HK club was great and is now absolutely unbeatable with recent expansions on both sides (one expansion was combining wtth the adjacent club and the other is the new weekend wing).

Hope market forces. Supply / demand and competition bring an end to these price increases.

I have no fucking idea why some of you guys would spend a night at Cascadas. Book a room at Izbia. Give your chica your WhatsApp number. Tell her to meet you at the bar below Izbia when she is done with HK, and you promise her you will rock her world by taking her all night without the HK Mafia watching.