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[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2907449]Congrats on a successful venture, mate. This is exactly what I'm looking for as well. Had a few properties in the Philippines where I successfully employed this modus operandi. From the mall straight up to the room. Can't wait to get to Jakarta and do the same there.[/QUOTE]The challenge will be to get the initial contacts of girls. Once you have 1 or 2 well connected girls on your whatsapp the process becomes a lot easier.

Maybe it's possible to get to that point with Travel-girls, too. But in that case it should be communicated clearly, that your offer includes BBFS, if you require that. I imagine that Travel-girls are only available for apartment visits in the early afternoon. Before they are required to sit around for 10 hours in their booth.

You can talk to Mamasans at Lokasari as well. At your first visit to Lokasari you can take a girl from there to your apartment, after paying the Mamasan. At the same time you will take the Whatsapp of the Mamasan and ask them to bring girls to your apartment. That means at arrival you pay her outside of the public eye and bring the girl to your place. At some point you'll get a girl who is sufficiently well connected to set you up with her friends. Lokasari girls and freelancers in the North are always BBFS.

If money is of no importance, you can also try the usual online dating sites and accept the obvious Pay4 Play profiles. But that's more like 2 million, or 4 million if you negotiate BBFS. I rather do 500 k for a younger girl, even if that means the occasional dud.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2907464]I should arrive the following week. Pm me if you want to meet up.

1001 is just basically the same setup as a soapy in thailand.

Before you walk into the lobby of 1001, security will put a sticker to cover your cell phone camera.

When you walk inside, the receptionist will ask you if you are here for spa or KTV or whatever.

An assigned person will escort you to the spa area.

The chicks are sitting on bench seats and usually dressed in an evening gown.

You will prolly be seated at the couches, but you can sit anywhere you like.

Your caretaker can arrange for the girls to come down for a lineup viewing.

When you select a chick, you have mayb 30 min to chat her up.

I believe you can still reject her afterwards if you don't like her, not 100% sure.[/QUOTE]I admit I'm a bit confused also because previously people mentioned girls around the pool. And I didn't see 1001 and KTV mentioned. So are there three things at 1001 — pool, spa and KTV? Or is pool and spa one and the same?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2907608]I admit I'm a bit confused also because previously people mentioned girls around the pool. And I didn't see 1001 and KTV mentioned. So are there three things at 1001 pool, spa and KTV? Or is pool and spa one and the same?[/QUOTE]Pool = spa.

Some of those KTV chicks were stunning, but so was the price tag.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2907571]The challenge will be to get the initial contacts of girls. Once you have 1 or 2 well connected girls on your whatsapp the process becomes a lot easier.

Maybe it's possible to get to that point with Travel-girls, too. But in that case it should be communicated clearly, that your offer includes BBFS, if you require that. I imagine that Travel-girls are only available for apartment visits in the early afternoon. Before they are required to sit around for 10 hours in their booth.

You can talk to Mamasans at Lokasari as well. At your first visit to Lokasari you can take a girl from there to your apartment, after paying the Mamasan. At the same time you will take the Whatsapp of the Mamasan and ask them to bring girls to your apartment. That means at arrival you pay her outside of the public eye and bring the girl to your place. At some point you'll get a girl who is sufficiently well connected to set you up with her friends. Lokasari girls and freelancers in the North are always BBFS.

If money is of no importance, you can also try the usual online dating sites and accept the obvious Pay4 Play profiles. But that's more like 2 million, or 4 million if you negotiate BBFS. I rather do 500 k for a younger girl, even if that means the occasional dud.[/QUOTE]I believe we think alike, mate. And I have no interest in paying girls 2 or 4 million IDR. Rather have a network of sweet young girls, even I have to train them. That's part of the fun.

I tried to message you on here to ask which airBnB you used. Care to share? You said close to a Holiday Inn but which one is attached to a mall? Also, are these freelance semi-pros all using whatsapp now? You mentioned before you were making contact on TikTok or Instagram. Thanks again for the intel.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2907571]The challenge will be to get the initial contacts of girls. Once you have 1 or 2 well connected girls on your whatsapp the process becomes a lot easier.

Maybe it's possible to get to that point with Travel-girls, too. But in that case it should be communicated clearly, that your offer includes BBFS, if you require that. I imagine that Travel-girls are only available for apartment visits in the early afternoon. Before they are required to sit around for 10 hours in their booth.

You can talk to Mamasans at Lokasari as well. At your first visit to Lokasari you can take a girl from there to your apartment, after paying the Mamasan. At the same time you will take the Whatsapp of the Mamasan and ask them to bring girls to your apartment. That means at arrival you pay her outside of the public eye and bring the girl to your place. At some point you'll get a girl who is sufficiently well connected to set you up with her friends. Lokasari girls and freelancers in the North are always BBFS.

If money is of no importance, you can also try the usual online dating sites and accept the obvious Pay4 Play profiles. But that's more like 2 million, or 4 million if you negotiate BBFS. I rather do 500 k for a younger girl, even if that means the occasional dud.[/QUOTE]Bro can I get some more info on Lokasari. I'm trying to do my own research but it looks (atleast from Google searches) to be a malo or shopping center. Where exactly would you find the girls and mamasans and 180 k hotel rooms? Is it like a massage place within the shopping center?

Here ya go. If you can't figure out how to message these gals through their listed tiktoks or IGs, I don't know what to tell ya.

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@bocilrandom19[/URL]

I'm not a paid member so I can't use the messaging system.

This time I used an Airbnb provider located at Harco Glodok Mall. There are 3 apartments on offer there, situated on top of the mall. Read the Airbnb offers around Holiday Inn to try to identify them. It's purely an electronics mall, shutting down at 18:00. So there isn't much foot traffic. There are public elevators to the official lobby of the apartments. But also 2 hidden private elevators exclusively for resident of the apartments, operated by key cards. Avoiding any contact with staff and security.

Everyone I know in Indonesia uses Whatsapp or MiChat. Nobody uses Iphones. Because they can't afford to spend one annual salary to buy one.

So far I'm making contacts by meeting girls from Lokasari and encouraging them to set me up with their friends. So initially dealing with Mamasans can't be avoided. There is one particular younger Mamasan, capable of limited English (nick name "Pipit") that is fairly reliable in bringing quality girls to my place (600 k including transport). But you may have to meetup at Lokasari for your very first meeting, so she can trust you being real and located in Jakarta.

Once you met 3 or 4 girls from Lokasari Mamasans, and collected their Whatsapp, it should be easy to circumvent Mamasans.

It seems that Lokasari is in decline by the way. My impression is the area is getting "cleaned up" to become more presentable. You will still find Mamasans there in the evening. But the girls are not haning out in groups anymore. Instead sitting at home to be called or similar. Lokasari = area between KFC and hotel Prinsen Park.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2907695]Bro can I get some more info on Lokasari. I'm trying to do my own research [/QUOTE]Such a shame there isn't a place that details all about there and the girls to be found, or even the ability to scroll down here for more clues.

It's so difficult living these days.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2907753]Such a shame there isn't a place that details all about there and the girls to be found, or even the ability to scroll down here for more clues.

It's so difficult living these days.[/QUOTE]No need to be such a prick bro. I did scroll down and I saw the post about the guy said turn left into the housing block with the filthy apartments and then he got ripped off for 600 k for a bullshit service when it's supposed to be 400 k for everything bb and you can take them to your place to avoid paying for the room.

Obviously my question was geared to the guys with experience there such as Future Guy and GG not smart asses with bad attitudes such as yourself.

Trip report. This week.

6-April:

Landed and settled by afternoon. Had nice lunch and got a good massage at Classic spa. It was good. Around 5 pm, reached Emporium and David welcomed us, Thanks to SuperLove who introduced me to him beforehand. Line up was not huge, around 8 girls. Selected one of them, had a beer and proceeded to action. She was very submissive and caring. Came out satisfied and headed to Classic to down couple of more beers and check the talent there. Good number of girls for a pre-holiday season. I and my friend few beers and took one each to the room. Usual performance, nothing to complain about. Rinse and repeat another time. Called it a night at 1 am.

7-Apr:

Afternoon, walked to Pasar Baru market street after lunch and got foot massage at my favourite place, Lorrentz. It was pure pleasure of 1. 5 hours for 100 k IDR. After that, took rest and went to 1001 around 7 pm. Only international lineup. No locals. Around 20 girls in the pool area. Selected one Viet and proceeded to the room. Session was good but felt too mechanical, maybe I am spoilt with Indonesian response during the session. Finished the deed and got out around 9 pm. It was around 4 mil for a single session. Decided to check the bunker at Classic and it's almost dead or dull. Paid cover charge of 5 k and came out on 5 minutes. Went to Classic, ordered Soju and got couple of cuties to sit with me for sometime, table service. Went to room with one of them and continued with Soju. After another round, called it a night at 1 am. Club closed at 1 am.

8-Apr and 9-Apr:

Did some shopping in the morning and had lunch and took a nice nap. Stuck to Terminal 2 and it went well as new mamas also started recognizing me. On 9th, club closed at 6 pm. Went around 4 pm and stayed till closure.

10-Apr:

Holiday everywhere. Booked a day trip to Crater and went around the places. Back to room around 9 pm. No action.

Overall, trip went well except couple of dry days. Classic did not disappoint. Emporium is excellent. Reopen date is 13th. Going back on 12th.

Messaged few twitter contacts, either they did not respond or asking for a deposit which I can't (no local account). Gave up after trying 5 different numbers. Maybe, I will try harder next time.

[QUOTE=LookAtWorld;2907793]Trip report. This week.

6-April:

Landed and settled by afternoon. Had nice lunch and got a good massage at Classic spa. It was good. Around 5 pm, reached Emporium and David welcomed us, Thanks to SuperLove who introduced me to him beforehand. Line up was not huge, around 8 girls. Selected one of them, had a beer and proceeded to action. She was very submissive and caring. Came out satisfied and headed to Classic to down couple of more beers and check the talent there. Good number of girls for a pre-holiday season. I and my friend few beers and took one each to the room. Usual performance, nothing to complain about. Rinse and repeat another time. Called it a night at 1 am.

7-Apr:

Afternoon, walked to Pasar Baru market street after lunch and got foot massage at my favourite place, Lorrentz. It was pure pleasure of 1. 5 hours for 100 k IDR. After that, took rest and went to 1001 around 7 pm. Only international lineup. No locals. Around 20 girls in the pool area. Selected one Viet and proceeded to the room. Session was good but felt too mechanical, maybe I am spoilt with Indonesian response during the session. Finished the deed and got out around 9 pm. It was around 4 mil for a single session. Decided to check the bunker at Classic and it's almost dead or dull. Paid cover charge of 5 k and came out on 5 minutes. Went to Classic, ordered Soju and got couple of cuties to sit with me for sometime, table service. Went to room with one of them and continued with Soju. After another round, called it a night at 1 am. Club closed at 1 am.

[/QUOTE]Hello brother, could you please provide more info on Mr David guy you are referring to here and also what is "1001" you mentioned here. Thank you.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2907742]I'm not a paid member so I can't use the messaging system.

This time I used an Airbnb provider located at Harco Glodok Mall. There are 3 apartments on offer there, situated on top of the mall. Read the Airbnb offers around Holiday Inn to try to identify them. It's purely an electronics mall, shutting down at 18:00. So there isn't much foot traffic. There are public elevators to the official lobby of the apartments. But also 2 hidden private elevators exclusively for resident of the apartments, operated by key cards. Avoiding any contact with staff and security.

Everyone I know in Indonesia uses Whatsapp or MiChat. Nobody uses Iphones. Because they can't afford to spend one annual salary to buy one.

So far I'm making contacts by meeting girls from Lokasari and encouraging them to set me up with their friends. So initially dealing with Mamasans can't be avoided. There is one particular younger Mamasan, capable of limited English (nick name "Pipit") that is fairly reliable in bringing quality girls to my place (600 k including transport). But you may have to meetup at Lokasari for your very first meeting, so she can trust you being real and located in Jakarta.

Once you met 3 or 4 girls from Lokasari Mamasans, and collected their Whatsapp, it should be easy to circumvent Mamasans.

It seems that Lokasari is in decline by the way. My impression is the area is getting "cleaned up" to become more presentable. You will still find Mamasans there in the evening. But the girls are not haning out in groups anymore. Instead sitting at home to be called or similar. Lokasari = area between KFC and hotel Prinsen Park.[/QUOTE]I've actually been looking at Glodok Mall as I saw there's a hotel that appears to be attached to it. What you described is exactly what I'm looking for. Again, thanks for the intel.

Looks like I need to get my whatsapp active again. I tried to install Michat here in the US but it's not permissible. That can wait, will be a while before I'm on the ground anyway.

Good intel on Lokasari too. I don't meeting a mamasan or two if it ends up with me having a nice little collection of whatsapp girls to call on.

1001 pool.

Colosseum is a big place, ask guard for the pool area and insist on it. On ground floor there is a nice club with chicks but you should head straight to the pool. Upon entering get a band and pay entrance fee and they will cover your camera phone with a sticker so no photos and videos possible. You'll see atleast 80-100 local chicks, they are all 7/8 + and are in the region of 1. 3-1. 4 mn. Also ask for intl selection, region of 3. 2 mn and mostly all are 9+ in looks & body. For more details read my reports from January.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2907608]I admit I'm a bit confused also because previously people mentioned girls around the pool. And I didn't see 1001 and KTV mentioned. So are there three things at 1001 pool, spa and KTV? Or is pool and spa one and the same?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2907922]1001 pool.

Colosseum is a big place, ask guard for the pool area and insist on it. On ground floor there is a nice club with chicks but you should head straight to the pool. Upon entering get a band and pay entrance fee and they will cover your camera phone with a sticker so no photos and videos possible. You'll see atleast 80-100 local chicks, they are all 7/8 + and are in the region of 1. 3-1. 4 mn. Also ask for intl selection, region of 3. 2 mn and mostly all are 9+ in looks & body. For more details read my reports from January.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Super helpful. Is the pool a daytime only thing or does it operate late night? Seems like Classic and 1001 pool are best bets for a guy with plenty o $$ based on what I've read here? Any other suggestions?

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2907916]I've actually been looking at Glodok Mall as I saw there's a hotel that appears to be attached to it. What you described is exactly what I'm looking for. Again, thanks for the intel.

Looks like I need to get my whatsapp active again. I tried to install Michat here in the US but it's not permissible. That can wait, will be a while before I'm on the ground anyway.

Good intel on Lokasari too. I don't meeting a mamasan or two if it ends up with me having a nice little collection of whatsapp girls to call on.[/QUOTE]There are 4 major malls at Glodok around the main road. I was specifically staying at Harco Glodok Mall (so not LTC Glodok, not Glodok Plaza, not Glodok / Chinatown Point). Also: consider carrying 2-3 extra towels if you plan to stay for some weeks and meet girls at the apartment regularly. There are cheap laundry services on premise. But it can be annoying to use them every other day.

I realize that I will be able to use the messaging system from 14th June. At that time I can send the Whatsapp of the fairly reliable mamasan that can provide girls directly to the mall. It is understood that you can take the whatsapp numbers of individual girls once you meet them.

And don't overpay. Just to give an impression:

Girls at Travel tell me they get to keep 125-150 of the 375 pay per customer. For the younger more freelance girls from Lokasari Mamsans LOCAL guys pay 400 max. ! And if times are desperate that may go down to 300. But this is probably not possible for us. And you have to factor in the additional cost of a room. I didn't have a problem to get a Mamasan bringing me a girl to my place for 500 + 50 transport. Just laugh off any demands for "Mamasan share" or "tips" beyond that. Just tell them it's included.

Once you meet a girl directly, I suggest to strictly keep a ceiling of 500. I had girls tell me "you gave me so much money" at that price point. Just ignore any demands beyond that. See it so: most girls at travel, on most days, will not earn 500 for themselves. And still got to be around from late afternoon up to 2 am.