Angeles City

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1801632]Tell me something I did not already know chocha monger.

All the reasons you quote above are the exact reasons high season is upon us and angeles city bars are dead of customers.

As they say, you make your bed, you lie in it.

People fly half way around the world at great expense to get laid not to sit amongst very ordinary looking, mostly chubby girls that have no intention of barfining,

Thank goodness there are many other destinations where girls know what they are employed to do.

People have obviously voted with their feet.[/QUOTE]All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month. I couldn't careless about whether.

The town crowding with other dudes, but the reason you claim for there absents troublesome I mean no intention of barfining brings in the question of why are they even there. What I hope.

And suspected is that of the most of the complaints are from guys that have been going for 15 years when everything was fresh new and extra cheap. Also it may not be as good as you remember but.

But for a first time visitor it's still a good time. I say this from my experience as I'm a big DR guy and people always complain but when I see newbies in town there always having a great time.

Talking to woman ID seen for years and never said so much as Hello, to.

There are other factors that may be causing low monger numbers in AC at this time besides the long term changes in attitudes and quality. The biggest one currently is the APEC Summit in Manila. The government has restricted air travel, shut down Manila for 4 days, and detained all vagrants in the city to keep them out of sight of foreign dignitaries.

Another factor working over a wider time frame is the currency markets. The Aussie dollar has taken a brutal drubbing from the peso, and is crying uncle. Aussie mongers on a pension are now more worried about trying to avoid making cat-food a dietary staple than traveling to AC for discretionary expenditures on pinay puss, booze, and counterfeit street Viagra.

The Malaysian ringgit has been shoved off a cliff by the peso. Malaysian mongers will have to content themselves with jerking off to the photo gallery for some time to come instead of visiting AC bars for the real thing. Except for a few currencies like the USA Dollar, Korean won, and British pound, most monger currencies are down against the peso including the Japanese yen, and even the Euro.

The high roller mongers are probably still rolling high in Makati, but AC's economy and low budget mongers are hurting real bad. While Americans are fairly well on the exchange rate, Thanksgiving and Christmas are around the corner and they're probably saving their money for the holidays at home after weathering a slow economic recovery. So, AC bars may not be seeing any crowds for a while.

[QUOTE=WorldTraveler3;1801658]All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month. I couldn't careless about whether.

The town crowding with other dudes, but the reason you claim for there absents troublesome I mean no intention of barfining brings in the question of why are they even there. What I hope.

And suspected is that of the most of the complaints are from guys that have been going for 15 years when everything was fresh new and extra cheap. Also it may not be as good as you remember but.

But for a first time visitor it's still a good time. I say this from my experience as I'm a big DR guy and people always complain but when I see newbies in town there always having a great time.

Talking to woman ID seen for years and never said so much as Hello, to.[/QUOTE]Read back a few pages and you will find all the answers to your questions, I and many have pointed out exactly what is happening in angeles city as of now.

It all depends on what you are looking for as to whether you will have a good time there.

[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1800748]Among the local mongers I talk with we all call Angeles City Rejection City or just call it RC for short because about half or more of the girls you try to take are going to shoot you down and some are going to be quite rude and cold about it.

[/QUOTE]Still not yet a 100%. If guys continue to feed cash into the system without getting sexual favors in return, then 100% is certainly achievable. Never have girls in AC had it so easy. Before, in order to make about 700 p they'd have to do LT with a punter. Now they can just sit in the bar all night and make that easily from drinks and tips. Incentivizing non-sexual services in a hooker scene has always been a recipe for certain demise. AC used to be a hooker destination, now it's an entertainment destination.

There's still a bit of fun to be had. Enjoy it while it lasts!

Not even vitamin V can help limped Richards caused by rejection. I have not had any problems finding ST or LT girls in perimeter bars. I really don't go to the fields bars so I can't respond to them. Most girls will do ST as stated before. Most girls after ST will decide to go LT if you are clean and like able. After that most girls will refer their friends to you.

The girls do not have to go with you is right. Not even for a million pesos! The attitude of "I paid my money-I get to fuck you" is so endearing to the girls that I wonder why they don't go with you!

[QUOTE=WorldTraveler3;1801658]All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month.[/QUOTE]If you can't get laid in this town then you have some serious physical, mental or hygienic issues.

Its funny how the majority of guys on angeles boards report that its much much harder to find slim attractive girls that are willing to barfine and we have some that are claiming they have no problems at all.

Well I put this down to girl choice.

Yes if one goes to the perimeter road bars and does not mind mainly very plain, older mummys, fat girls, then getting laid is relatively straight forward.

Here's the BUT.

Most guys travel great distances at great expense to spend time with the type of girls they cannot attract back home, these type of girls can only be found in very small numbers in the top bars of fields avenue.

As has been pointed out by so many, even the slightly attractive girls of fields are very choosy on who they barfine with that's if you can get the little want to be princess to barfne at all.

The reasons for this have been made clear by many in recent posts.

Sorry to be blunt, but that is the honest situation as I see it, lets hope things improve some time soon.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1802058]As has been pointed out by so many, even the slightly attractive girls of fields are very choosy on who they barfine with that's if you can get the little want to be princess to barfne at all[/QUOTE]I would still suggest you take a shower and brush your teeth before you hit the town. You may find the hots to be more receptive to you. The reason I say this is because this town attracts the blue collar value monger who doesn't think personal hygiene is really necessary since they are pulling out the little blue notes.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1801706]There are other factors that may be causing low monger numbers in AC at this time besides the long term changes in attitudes and quality. The biggest one currently is the APEC Summit in Manila. The government has restricted air travel, shut down Manila for 4 days, and detained all vagrants in the city to keep them out of sight of foreign dignitaries.

Another factor working over a wider time frame is the currency markets. The Aussie dollar has taken a brutal drubbing from the peso, and is crying uncle. Aussie mongers on a pension are now more worried about trying to avoid making cat-food a dietary staple than traveling to AC for discretionary expenditures on pinay puss, booze, and counterfeit street Viagra.

The Malaysian ringgit has been shoved off a cliff by the peso. Malaysian mongers will have to content themselves with jerking off to the photo gallery for some time to come instead of visiting AC bars for the real thing. Except for a few currencies like the USA Dollar, Korean won, and British pound, most monger currencies are down against the peso including the Japanese yen, and even the Euro.

The high roller mongers are probably still rolling high in Makati, but AC's economy and low budget mongers are hurting real bad. While Americans are fairly well on the exchange rate, Thanksgiving and Christmas are around the corner and they're probably saving their money for the holidays at home after weathering a slow economic recovery. So, AC bars may not be seeing any crowds for a while.[/QUOTE]You are correct in saying that most people the world over have less money available to themselves.

I also agree that most currencies have taken a fall and prices have risen.

But how do you explain that very near by mongering destinations are very busy with customers in high numbers even though they have political problems,terrorist threats,bombings themselves.

My view is that some destinations are doing it right therefore have high numbers of customers and some destinations are doing it wrong and not able to attract high number.

Mongers will be mongers, they will not stay at home regardless of summits/politics/terrorism, they will still travel but maybe for shorter periods than before and maybe be more careful of everyday expense but travel to the right destinations where they can get laid easily by attractive girls they will.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;1801706]Malaysian mongers will have to content themselves with jerking off to the photo gallery for some time to come[/QUOTE]Doing my *best* for the Malaysian fellas haha.

[QUOTE=Tasss;1801604]Hi all,

I read several dozen pages of this forum, and used search. Indy's 6 day report was very helpful. But still a few remaining questions for a 1st time visitor to AC and PI:

1. Is it better to exchange cash via a regular bank or a money exchanger like Norma's?

2. Do the girls usually speak some English? Thing is if we do LT, I'd imagine it'd be quite boring between the sessions if she doesn't.

3. Is mid to end of Jan. A pretty good time to go? The climate seems to be very reasonable at this time.

TIA[/QUOTE]Changing money on the street is very risky in a third world country, better to go to sm mall and change your money in one of the banks there, they are guarded by security with guns for your safety.

Girls speak fairly good English and can hold conversations, but remember most bargirls have had no schooling and have grown up in the outback so don't expect deep meaningful conversations.

Mid to late January is the best time to visit.

[QUOTE=WorldTraveler3;1801658]All this negative talk has me little concerned, as I'm to make my first visit there this month. I couldn't careless about whether.

The town crowding with other dudes, but the reason you claim for there absents troublesome I mean no intention of barfining brings in the question of why are they even there. What I hope.

And suspected is that of the most of the complaints are from guys that have been going for 15 years when everything was fresh new and extra cheap. Also it may not be as good as you remember but.

But for a first time visitor it's still a good time. I say this from my experience as I'm a big DR guy and people always complain but when I see newbies in town there always having a great time.

Talking to woman ID seen for years and never said so much as Hello, to.[/QUOTE]Aaahhh the DR. I remember my first time to Sosua I stayed at the New Garden hotel arrived midweek around 1: pm and wanted to see the strip for the first time. Three times that day I walked out of the New Garden heading for the strip and three times I was stopped by a hot little Dominicana before I ever reached the strip and was convinced by her to take her back to my room. Finally had to just keep my head down and ignore all the come ONS so I could finally make it to the strip.

In Angles the distance from the Wild Orchid to walking street is about the same from New Garden to the strip. You could walk up and down from Wild Orchid to walking street twenty four hours a day seven days a week and get nothing but ignored dirty looks and NO from the girls.

Aaahhh Sosua In Classicos, Rumba or the old the Latinos I feel like Brad Pitt I'm groped, felt up, and come on to by the girls and within five minutes or less I can take who ever I want back to my room.

In Rejection City / Angles City gogo bar you will be ignored looked at like you are Frankenstein's Monster and told by at least half or more of the girls she is on Mens and can't bar fine. Of course that will be after you have bought her a drink or two.

I hope you are not thin skinned Worldtraveler because you will find Rejection City / Angels City is nothing like Sosua.

Chris

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;1802069]Doing my *best* for the Malaysian fellas haha.[/QUOTE]For the Malaysian fella's and all the other guys around the world ensconced in Mumma's cellar.

[QUOTE=Tasss;1801604]Do the girls usually speak some English?[/QUOTE]As said, you probably won't be discussing geopolitical issues, but they understand pretty well. I suspect understanding THEM is a bit of an acquired skill: I had some real problems due to thick accents. I did have one girl who could barely understand me but had a wing-woman do some translation. Rather odd as even the translator said that I my English was very understandable, not highly accented.

I found the understand versus speak thing problematic as I would revert to my usual highly simplified, gesture-intensive talk when they could understand me fine but I struggled when they talked.

Perimeter bars have many girls as beautiful as fields bars. They are not all fat and ugly. Most girls are new to the scene. Sometimes when I hear about bad performers, like horses I wonder if it wasn't because of the jockey?

Money changers like Norma's are just as safe as banks. You are not going to get robbed at either location. Just go at a decent time and always double back to see if someone is following you whether it is at a money changer or bank. At SM mall go up the escalator and stop at the top to see if someone is following or watching you and then go back down the escalator. Just like anywhere else use some common sense and watch your back.

Most girls do speak good English. Writing it maybe a different story. What is confusing to them is which English and accent are you talking to them with? Meaning are you American? Texan? Australian? British? Indian? Korean speaking English? And with slang words? If you expect to discuss your countries history or politics then it is not going to happen. Then again it would probably bore me too.