Manila

Ralek, I walk round there at night and never had a problem but use good judgment as in any big city. Walk on Roxas or EDSA, rather than dark side streets. Be careful especially near the underpasses of the road (squatters hang out there). Don't carry valuables or look clueless, and don't talk to strangers who approach you. Walking up Roxas will bring you by several other night clubs but large fleece joints until you get to Visions.

In general, violent crime to a foreigner in that area would be VERY unusual I think But petty theft, or getting conned, could happen in a New York Minute. Don'y play cards, gamble in any way, or buy drugs. Just use common sense and I think you can walk up Roxas without undue danger. I do warn you that the area further up Roxas by the water provides lots of hiding places for bad guys, but the smell alone should deter you from walking THAT part.

My last 6 or 8 times I have been to Manila I have stayed at The Executive Plaza. I walk the area alot, at all times of the day and night. I have walked to and from LA Cafe, both with a lady and alone,(usually TO LA Cafe alone, and FROM with a lady, lol) I have never felt threatned or in danger. I tend to walk fast, like I know where I am going, and ignore the beggers and sellers.

I was just in Manila, Cebu, and AC, 3 weeks ago and will be back first week of September. Damn I miss it!

[QUOTE=Xtorted Decay]As for the safety of the area, all I can tell you is when the guy I went to manila with (he grew up there) and his cousins saw the area LA Cafe was in, they were horrified that I had gone there alone. I don't know if they were just being over protective or if its really that bad of an area...But most of the filipinos I talk to seem to think its pretty dangerous. However I have been wanting to ask the board's perspective on this also. How bad of an area is it? I havn't seen any posts like "I got beat down/robbed at LA Cafe" so I have to assume its alright.

However I was there a number of times and never had a problem. I even walked down the street to Amazonia (about a block) and had no problem at all, but it was full day light and I had a lady with me. I have a feeling that with all of the westerners that frequent both places, measures are kept to keep them safe. I think the last thing any filipino business owner would want is something discouraging western money from coming to his or her place.[/QUOTE]

So far my time here in Manila has been wonderful. Thus far I had the pleasure of seeing 4 women. I am currently staying at the Hyatt Casino and Hotel in Malate, a couple of blocks from LA Cafe. The cost of my room is $90 per night excluding breakfast thus I will be transfering to the Traders Hotel down the street where the cost of a night is $68, including breakfast and a view of Manila Bay.

The first time I went out was Friday night, after my long flight from LAX. The fact that there were 3 flights coming from the US West Coast didn't help matter and I had to wait in line at immigration for approximately 20 minutes along with trying to find my bags amidst a bunch of big "balikbayan" boxes made my stay at NAIA last about an hour and a half.

My first night I stayed at the Bellevue Hotel in Alabang. The cost was $70, which includes complimenetary buffet breakfast. I asked a taxi driver to take me to Cafe Havana, since I did not know anyplace in Alabang. The guy charged 400 pesos to take me there, which is about $8. This is fair in the US but not in the PI and the fact that I didn't demand that he turn on the meter gave me no recourse to complain.

Guys, as an advice, demand that the cabs turn on their meter. People will screw you here if you look like a foreigner. Anyway, I just hung out at the Cafe Havana because I didn't want to take a girl to my hotel room in Alabang. I then went to Quezon Avenue and Pegagus. I decided to go to Sylavanus, the massage parlor in the basement of Pegasus, where one can get a massage along with full service for a total of 3000 pesos, about $60, for an hour and 20 minutes.

The girl I chose was Cherry, number 84, a 23 year old from Manila. If you like to have your nipples lick along with your member, I would recommend her since she knows how to use her tongue proficiently. After doing the deed, she gave me her phone number so that I can take her out. I was told by a bellhop at the Hyatt that this is a common practice of girls here in the PI, where they try to find "joiners" or guys who would like to join them when they come to Philippines or during their stay in the PI.

After Sylvanus, I went up the hill to Starduz, where I met the manager Lito. He indicated to me what the process was at the place and I just ordered a bottle of beer so that I can recuperate from my encounter with number 84, Cherry. At the meantime, there were a constant parade of girls on the stage, and I saw the girl who I wanted to take upstairs--Chris, a 20 year old girl from Bacolod.

I then told Lito about her and he went to the back and got her for me. I paid Lito 3500 pesos and he escorted Chris and me upstairs. This is like the place in Monterrey, Mexico, where one can do the deed with the girls at the premises. Instead, however, the girls cost only $70, not $200, like in Poisson.

After doing the deed with Chris, which took the whole hour I was with her, since I just had that encounter with Cherry at Sylvanus, it was already 5 am. I tipped Chris 500 pesos, along with the 500 pesos for Lito, and took a cab back to Alabang. I had to asked about 3 drivers to turn on their meter to go back there because they just would not do it. They would quote me a price of 500 pesos. They guy who I selected turned his meter on and the price to going to Alabang cost me only 250 pesos, or $5.

I can afford to pay $10 but the principle of treating everyone fairly is what I am after. I will write about my encounter with the girls at Starfleet and East Asia at later time since my time is up at this internet cafe. I had writter a previous post but could not post me on time since my time ran out.

Hey Sun Devil and others..

What makes you guys not just give what you know is a fair price for the taxi ride after you get out. If my driver doesn't turn on his meter, I just give him what I know is a fair price and leave, nobody ever chased me down, tell them to call the police then... anybody have any bad experiences doing this.. I'll be there next week.. see you all there.

Mook

After my excursion to Quezon City, the next day I attended the wedding of my cousin at this church in Ayala Alabang and we proceeded to have the reception dinner at the Bellevue. This lasted about 11 pm and members of the wedding party went up to the 20/20 Club where I noticed a couple of possible working girls. I figured they were working girls because they were talking to a couple of guys who were alone earlie, plus they had their gay pimp sitting between them.

The gay pimp then went to the bathroom and I followed him so that I could negotiate with him without offending the two guys. His price for them was 25,000 pesos! I couldn't believe. They were totally hot chicks but there is no way I am going to pay $500 when there is a plethora of good looking women in this city, all available at a lesser price.

Not being able to satisfy my urge, I suggested to a couple of guys at the wedding party to go to a massage parlor and one of them suggested Starfleet. We went to Starfleet and because it was already 3 am, we were given the discount price of 2000 pesos for a massage.

I chose number 15, Geenie, and, after giving her the 2000 peso tip, she gave me a really good and soapy Thai massage. I would recommend this girl if you like them slim with a nice size pair of breasts. The massage lasted a while and then we proceeded to do the deed on the wet plastic mattress on the shower floor, not the bed. Afterwards, she gave me her phone number and asked that I call her if I wanted to do any outcall services.

The next day I checked out from the Bellevue Hotel and travelled cross town to the Hyatt in Malate. This is a 5 star hotel in a somewhat dumpy neighborhood. The good thing about is that it is close to the LA Cafe and Mabini street, where there is a lot of available girls. I soon met up with Alfred, one of the guys working outside responsible for getting cabs for the guests. I asked him where I can get some good quality Filipino food and at a fair price and he suggested the Aristocrat.

In addition, I asked him where some quality working girls are available like those working at Pegasus and he mentioned East Asia. He said that he will be off soon and that he will follow me at the Aristocrat after work. When he met me at the Aristocrat, Alfred said that the higher class girls work at East Asia, which is just a couple of blocks away.

After finishing my meal, we went to East Asia, which resembles Mystic in Quezon City in decor and stage arrangement. After looking in the fishbowl, I chose a pretty 19 year old girl from Cebu, Chanel. The cost at this place for a girl to see with you and talk is 695 pesos, plus there is a cover charge of 500 pesos per person. The take out fee is 8000 pesos, which includes sex at your hotel.

This was all explained to me by Shyn, the manager at East Asia. After a couple of hours, I decided to take Chanel, who works there as a model, meaning she just models cocktail dresses on the stage instead of dancing, to my hotel at the Hyatt. The cost was 8000, plus the drinks and companionship hours that Alfred and I consumed at the place.

Being a generous person, I opted to pay for Alfred's portion of the bill, which included a couple of companionshp hours for him by a girl named Alex, a friend of Chanel, along with his orange juice. When I took Chanel back to my hotel, I forgot to tell the taxi driver to turn on the meter and he charged me 300 pesos to drive a couple of blocks. I didn't want to look cheap in front of Chanel so I paid that amount, but these drivers are such assholes to do this.

I took Chanel to my room and she stayed there for about 3 hours. The funny thing was that after performing oral sex on her, she literally exploded, with a small amount of fluid gushing from her vagina along with a popping sound like she farted from there. Aferwards, while we were changing, she told me that she should be the only girl that I go select at East Asia and she gave me her phone number. I told her that I could not do that since I like a variety of chicks, so when I escorted her down to the lobby, she was very quiet, almost sad. Oh well, c'est la vie.

I moved from the Hyatt to Trader's Hotel yesterday. Granted it is not a 5 star hotel like the Hyatt but Trader's is much more convenient to mongering since East Asia is just a walk away, plus they have an internet cafe in front called the Coffee.Com. The cost for 30 minutes is 85 pesos, plus they have coffee and snacks. Additionally, the view in front of the hotel is much nicer, with the convention center out front and the Baywalk as well.

For my 5th girl in Manila, I again went to East Asia. I had planned to go to Makati or Quezon City last night but the rain sort of gave me second thoughts. Being from Arizona, the rain that they are having right now is like a hurricane but of course it is the rainy season here, which is from June to August, like the US summer.

Anyway, with my umbrella in hand, I walked the couple of blocks to East Asia. Everyone seems to remember me from the night before. Shyn, one of the managers, came to my table and asked whether I wanted a girl to see at the fishbowl. We both went there and I chose a girl with a full figured girl named Divine (I love their working names here).

Divine works as a dancer but when she danced she did not take any of her clothes off. I guess this is an option for the girl. I think their motivation in taking their clothes is to entice some of the customers to barfine them or have them sit by the table so that they can make money. According to Divine, she makes about 300 pesos a night, which is less than $10!

We talked for about 2 hours because her personality was so great and as I was leaving Shyn told me that I can take Divine to one of the rooms for an in-call service for 4000 pesos. I jumped at this opportunity and was escorted to one of the side rooms. It has a queen sized mattress on the floor with no linen, in addition to a TV. Anyway, after doing the deed with Divine, I stayed until around 4:15 AM and walked back to my hotel. Divine gave me her phone number and told me to call her the next day.

God, it is so easy to score here! And these are some prime looking women I am scoring with. The hard part is choosing which girl to select.

Sundevil
I checked out of traders last week. it was originally a holidayinn. I stayed there on my very first night on my first ever night in Asia in 1989.
When i checked in last week and as they only had a smoking room avail in a reg floor they offered me a club floor at $30 extra per night ($38 incl taxes)as i had already a prepaid regular floor at an unbelievable lowrate off the jetstar website although i never flew with them. for the club floor i got 24/7 internet in my room, free breakfast, club lounge snacks between 2-4pm and 6-8pm and an exclusive restaurant for club members on the top floor.

Sounds like the barfine you describe is on the way up.Sounds like the fool and his money are soon parted.8 thousand barfine for shorttime thats unreal.I would never and have ever paid that kind of money in manila or makati.Even when the high tourist season is in play. This is rainy season not many guys over there now,why pay that kind of loot now.Sounds like the sillappines they raise the barfine now and lower it when the busy season gets here.They never use common sense over there that's why they will never be any better off than they are now over there.8000 peso's that's for short time (3hours) what the fuck are you guys thinking.You should of given or taken the number of a cell phone and called after work.I am sure you could of had the chick for 4-5 thousand for the night.Fuck giving the bar any money, do they let you drink for free???????????

B.B...

Has anyone gone to Skyline massage parlor on Roxas Boulevard? I want to just verify that it is still at the Grand Hotel.

Bill, thanks for the advice. I will try to do that in the future but I have a budget of $200 per night for play so 8000 pesos was no big deal. Carlos Perez in Monterrey pretty much told me the same thing when I was in Mexico.

I followed the advice of Bill and asked for the girl's phone number so that I get her at my hotel for a discount early this morning (it is now 7 am in the PI). I called her at my hotel after I left East Asia and we made an arrangement for a rendezvous at 6 am.

Guess what, the girl did not show as planned and stood me up!! Maybe she broke a leg on her way to my hotel or had a date planned with another customer but she sure left me high and dry.

I sure save a lot of money by not going through the official channel. I also did not get to have sex with any girl. At least through the mamasan, even though it cost from 4000 to 8000 pesos, if the girl does not put out, at least the customer has recourses and can complain to her.

Luckily for me, I was able to locate the Skyline massage parlor prior to me going to East Asia. It is now called Mercury Massage and it is located on the 8th floor of the Grand Boulevard Hotel, next to the Aristocrat Restaurant, on Roxas Boulevard.

They are open 24/7 and, thanks to their hours, I won't be detered from my goal of having a different girl each day I am in the PI.

Sun Devil, Have you done the deed yet at the boluvard. are the girls maganda and how much for the massage and extras.

[QUOTE=Sun Devil]Has anyone gone to Skyline massage parlor on Roxas Boulevard? I want to just verify that it is still at the Grand Hotel.

Bill, thanks for the advice. I will try to do that in the future but I have a budget of $200 per night for play so 8000 pesos was no big deal. Carlos Perez in Monterrey pretty much told me the same thing when I was in Mexico.[/QUOTE]

I know you must be creative when passing out your number.You can put the number on some 20 notes and tell the gal it is there and that way no one is the wiser.Try sitting at Matrix on P burgos street,The amount of gals going in and out of the bars is unreal.They are all around after 2-3 am when work gets done.If they were unlucky at the bar they will be glad to take 500-1000 peso's for the rest of the night.Most all hit the 7-11 and the filling station restaurant for some chow before getting a cab for home.The area is busy from 8-pm until daylight and Matrix has ok food at a good price."SHRIMP SCAMPIE FOR 3 BUCKS".REMEMBER there are lots of bakla "billy boys"around the area in drag so be on alert.

You will also get some street guys wanting you to pay them for gals.This is OK just make sure they look old enough and never pay what they want.500 is plenty for what they do I would give 2-3 hundred If it was me.

Just buy a soda or other beverage and watch the show.I never had any problems outside there and you will get lots of attention for sure.

Have fun and keep the prices down.


B.B...

After my fiasco of getting a girl to my hotel room after hours, I decided to go to Mercury Massage (formerly Skyline) at the Grand Boulevard Hotel, which is just a couple of blocks from the Traders Hotel. The prices are 1,200 pesos for a massage between 6 am to 6 pm, and 1400 pesos between 6 pm to 6 am.

There were some doable girls at the place and I chose Cherry, a new girl from Bacolod. For a new girl, her skills at massaging was fairly good, especially considering I had worked out my chest and back the day before.

Because I was still pissed from my experience at East Asia, when she asked for a 2,000 peso tip prior to giving extra services, i.e. oral and vaginal sex, I countered with 1,000 pesos. She tried to lower the price a couple of times, ranging from 1,300 to 1,500 pesos, but I would not budge. Consequently, she agreed to the price, thus I only paid 2,200 pesos for massage and sex.

In hindsight, it was not Cherry's fault that I got stood up, but being screwed so many times by various local people finally got to me.

S.D.

You will be ripped off by everyone if you are not on your guard at all times.Thats the nature of the beast so don't worry it's not you.Remember you are a foreigner and it's there job to get money from us when we are there...

BB...

[QUOTE=Sun Devil]After my fiasco of getting a girl to my hotel room after hours, I decided to go to Mercury Massage (formerly Skyline) at the Grand Boulevard Hotel, which is just a couple of blocks from the Traders Hotel. The prices are 1,200 pesos for a massage between 6 am to 6 pm, and 1400 pesos between 6 pm to 6 am.

There were some doable girls at the place and I chose Cherry, a new girl from Bacolod. For a new girl, her skills at massaging was fairly good, especially considering I had worked out my chest and back the day before.

Because I was still pissed from my experience at East Asia, when she asked for a 2,000 peso tip prior to giving extra services, i.e. oral and vaginal sex, I countered with 1,000 pesos. She tried to lower the price a couple of times, ranging from 1,300 to 1,500 pesos, but I would not budge. Consequently, she agreed to the price, thus I only paid 2,200 pesos for massage and sex.

In hindsight, it was not Cherry's fault that I got stood up, but being screwed so many times by various local people finally got to me.[/QUOTE]

Many people in this forum will suggest ways of saving a few pesos here or there and their advise is generally sound. However, be careful when trying to save money on pussy. Buying "street puss" at 200-300 pesos (1/10th the going rate) is risky (disease, robbery, etc.). If I was you, I would stick with the proven venues and pay a little bit more than what you would pay for street puss. You'll be much safer and like you said, you have recourse if the girl rips you off or leaves you hanging.

IMHO,

Guinness