A while back I had a fantastic couple of sessions with an 18 year old tall, sporty, girl with large natural breasts called Sheila. I have not seen her in the club for a long time. Did she leave?
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A while back I had a fantastic couple of sessions with an 18 year old tall, sporty, girl with large natural breasts called Sheila. I have not seen her in the club for a long time. Did she leave?
[QUOTE=KaveMan;2397830]You are looking at this backwards; its supply and demand.
The supply of of gals has gone down and supply of men has gone up.[/QUOTE]If the supply of men has gone up, why aren't there more customers?
Sure, it's about supply and demand but it's also about the [B]manipulation[/B] of supply and demand, and the pressure from monopoly forces.
One thing you will see in most FKKs is this: Romanian sub-managers. They will typically give hints to the girls about which guys they should go with and which they should not go with. This explains how the Romanian girls in a club can act so organized, basically as a unit.
Of course the head managers will be local guys who are friendly to the customers simply because they want as many customers as possible. But as soon as they go out the door the Romanian sub-managers take over and the atmosphere changes. Their goal is not simple profit. Their goal is control. Monopolists everywhere understand this. It's not an extraordinary situation. The free market is an exception, not a rule we can take for granted.
It's not hard to see how the sub-managers are hired. The Romanian networks say to the FKK owners: "Put our agent in your house or we will stop supplying girls. " Since they are supplying 90% of the girls, the FKK owners have to capitulate. And there seems no harm in doing so, because the sub-managers act so sweet and seem to follow the values of the head manager so obediently.
At least at first. Later on things change. The real power no longer rests with the FKK owner. And the Romanian girls know where the real power lies because they don't have accommodation or travel or jobs unless they act the way they are told to act.
In this way, by exerting subtle but determined pressure the Romanian networks lower service standards so that they are the same in every club. The aim of monopolists is to create artificial shortages. So it's not just "supply and demand".
Things are maybe not that bad in Globe yet but we all know clubs where things are absolutely dire -- Mr Wombat mentioned Oasis -- and it seems this is the path they are all taking.
[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2397880]Corinna is the girl with Braces right? I went with her once and made the mistake of not negotiating a price before blowing my load in her mouth. She then charged me double the standard price for this extra. Rather than complain I just chalked it down to my fuckup for not negotiating the price beforehand.[/QUOTE]When Corinna started in Globe I had a great first session with her, she was really doing her best to please. A few months later when I had a second session with her it was quite disappointing, she was just going through the motions. Then she wonders why I don't go with her again.
There is no negotiating for the price of CIM in Globe, it's 100 CHF and that's it.
I couldn't understand what Balkanians said, because I don't understand German, but I heard the way Joana answered them and smiles for me. Joana didn't seem to run for Balkanians business, but she also came straight to me, becoming brunette, on January when we spent from 3 to 9 pm together, chatting, 2 hours in room, chatting, having diner and long time chatting in useless Mainhattan area, only chatting, she never asked for champagne, this area is nothing VIP but more for public sex. Really lovely Joana, but I found her more sexy when blond, maybe because when I saw her blond on July and August, I felt she had a problem about me, and like Sofia on April, she had, she said: afraid to go with me, I would keep her complex for me, Sofia needed to ask lovely Anissa about me, but calling me after: he is my love in front of other girls, and Anissa understood when she saw us just after our discovery. Really enjoyable was to experience how both really changed, from being afraid, to how said Joana: now I know you, I will run to you, and she did to repeat on our discovery day, after her desk booking. I like when girls I like come to me, they choose to come, this wake up my desire for them. I also like eyes contact games, on this Thursday night, elsewhere in Germany where prettier girls, for more than 1 hour, I looked at her, she looked elsewhere, but when I didn't look at her but other girls, she was looking at me, no smile for more than 1 hour, then a very small smile when her friend let her alone, so I asked her with a sign if I could come to her, she answered with a smile, then I sit with her, after 30 seconds she was full smiling, stuck to me, her fingers in my fingers, she didn't ask to go to room, just very close chat and smiles, saying this night was boring for her, so after 10/15 mn, I asked her if she wanted to do something less boring. Because I see her since long time but never went to her because she smiled only to others but never to me, I told her: You decide what You want we do, when You will be ready, she answered: I m ready. In bed she was higher potential with exceptional BJ putting pressure with her lips on little terminator at 4 am, too much intense, like electricity, then You feel when a girl wants to give You pleasure back after her orgasmus, higher level for me than lovely Joana, same behavior to please back than great GFE with me Sofia. During this 1 h30 for only 180, I thought I was lucky with her, like I was lucky on my last visit when Megan after first nice words when I was having breakfast with Sunday brunch, came to me smiling for a nice chat, she didn't ask, but after 29 months, with her so beautiful smile, I will keep other points for me because I don t want she receives messages about me, just shame on You guys who need to send to girls what we write, when I choose a girl I just focus to take pleasure with her, not to gossip about other guys from frustration and jealousy, but I felt again desire for her and it was nice to repeat with a so sweet beauty, kind of girl as I like, like also Anissa but not so pretty face, when my Thursday night in Germany girl became fire and wild for sex, I still have her nails marks on arms and on top of head in hair. As we said with Megan: we keep our intimacy private for us, no public sex for us. Enjoyable time.
[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2397943]If the supply of men has gone up, why aren't there more customers?
Sure, it's about supply and demand but it's also about the [B]manipulation[/B] of supply and demand, and the pressure from monopoly forces.
One thing you will see in most FKKs is this: Romanian sub-managers. They will typically give hints to the girls about which guys they should go with and which they should not go with. This explains how the Romanian girls in a club can act so organized, basically as a unit..[/QUOTE]Yes some girls are pimped and many Germans by Turkish or Albanians or Afghans, but never felt at Globe or in any other clubs, some guys were inside the club to check what girls are doing, or maybe I'm not attracted by this kind of girls. Usually when I know a girl is pimped, I stop with her, even with some who were great for me, but knowing made me lose desire for these girls. On the other hand, I knew some girls who were pimped by a girl working in club. The girl made come other girls in club and asked to be paid 50 by each girl each day she works, this at GT and LR around Dusseldorf.
[QUOTE=KaveMan;2397830]You are looking at this backwards; its supply and demand. The supply of of gals has gone down and supply of men has gone up. He can cut services, and demand is still constant; his margins are improved vs. Past....[/QUOTE]
I don't buy this. I mean I am talking about two specific single days out of 365 (party days) and that should be extraordinary organization and funds, not everyday management. It makes no sense that once there was such an unbelievable grandeur in those events, and now are really a low low key version, almost pathetic, so many customers stay away now from those I can tell you as a witness.
I would understand you had new owners or management using a low key attitude, but it's still Ingo on top and he does remember how magic and unbelievable were those parties. Some say that introducing free food meant the cut of parties budget. Not sure. I don't believe that a higher budget for 2 single parties can make your yearly business go bust. Come on.
Low level lesbi shows for me at Globe, even when Selina performs, with milk, but not the faintest erotism, just killing desire for me for girls I see on these shows, same like when I see a girl performing in public, then not anymore a woman image, so no desire for me.
Who is the small, maximum 1,55 bare foot and 40 kg but natural small tits, a bit tanned skin, long dark hair sometimes in pony tail, really cute face? Prettiest face for me with Megan, but teeth brace and not woman type look for me, but one of the prettiest seen, when beauties are now rare at Globe.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2397896]They are. In the past they had audience involved and they were so much fun, due to the surprise of the situation. I remember during a legendary party, 12 I repeat 12 globe girls dressed like the Eyes Wide Shut movie went in groups of three to each corner of the lap area and had sex there with nine unknowns from the audience! Never seen such a public orgy in the club!
The club obviously needs Toni cause he's a) always available when needed b) works well on stage with hard dick c) costs to the club way much less than hiring a professional sex stud so sum the three and bingo for them. So that's why he probably (but not 100% sure) he doesn't pay entrance nor sex, cause he is on the other hand obliged when in Globe to do live shows and can't say one day no I am tired or no I prefer to do three private rooms than the live show... think about it. not so much fun for him IMHO. But surely he does this in hope of a better job in Globe and stay in the team, otherwise he would already have quit this mandatory role, which is frankly boring after a while if you are not paid as a pro.[/QUOTE]You're wrong Toni has exactly what he wants, going in Globe and fuck without pay.
He doesn't pay entrance and fuck for free.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2398049]I don't buy this. I mean I am talking about two specific single days out of 365 (party days) and that should be extraordinary organization and funds, not everyday management. It makes no sense that once there was such an unbelievable grandeur in those events, and now are really a low low key version, almost pathetic, so many customers stay away now from those I can tell you as a witness.
I would understand you had new owners or management using a low key attitude, but it's still Ingo on top and he does remember how magic and unbelievable were those parties. Some say that introducing free food meant the cut of parties budget. Not sure. I don't believe that a higher budget for 2 single parties can make your yearly business go bust. Come on.[/QUOTE]Do not forget that Ingo is an (no clue how greedy) entrepreneur, whose main goal is not to please the customers at all cost, but to make money. He does not organize this event as an end in itself, but to attract more customers in the club, making sure the night remain profitable and the girls are happy.
The minimal edition of this year is consistent with a simple market consideration; there is no competition to beat, only Globe is open on the 31st!
That means, Ingo knows that the Club will be packed as usual, as the punters have no alternative; to try to maximize the margin is just a wise decision.
The only risks that he runs are that some customers will be pissed off and decide not to go; but, if the line up is good, nobody cares about the events!
[QUOTE=Belbo;2398183]Do not forget that Ingo is an (no clue how greedy) entrepreneur, whose main goal is not to please the customers at all cost, but to make money. He does not organize this event as an end in itself, but to attract more customers in the club, making sure the night remain profitable and the girls are happy.
The minimal edition of this year is consistent with a simple market consideration; there is no competition to beat, only Globe is open on the 31st!
That means, Ingo knows that the Club will be packed as usual, as the punters have no alternative; to try to maximize the margin is just a wise decision.
The only risks that he runs are that some customers will be pissed off and decide not to go; but, if the line up is good, nobody cares about the events![/QUOTE]Many other Sylvester party in German clubs, at Oase, Sharks, Gold, Velbert.
[QUOTE=Rondega978;2398152]You're wrong Toni has exactly what he wants, going in Globe and fuck without pay.
He doesn't pay entrance and fuck for free.[/QUOTE]Not so easy to fuck girls you don't find pretty.
[QUOTE=Belbo;2398183]Do not forget that Ingo is an (no clue how greedy) entrepreneur, whose main goal is not to please the customers at all cost, but to make money. He does not organize this event as an end in itself, but to attract more customers in the club, making sure the night remain profitable and the girls are happy.
The minimal edition of this year is consistent with a simple market consideration; there is no competition to beat, only Globe is open on the 31st!
That means, Ingo knows that the Club will be packed as usual, as the punters have no alternative; to try to maximize the margin is just a wise decision.
The only risks that he runs are that some customers will be pissed off and decide not to go; but, if the line up is good, nobody cares about the events![/QUOTE]I think you really get it based on this posting.
The parties require a lot of preparation and they don't make that great profit for them. They were trying harder earlier, maybe because they wanted to be established as the number 1 FKK in Switzerland. I don't think it really matters for them if there are better clubs in Germany or Austria, Ingo earns enough to buy a new Ferrari or Lamborghini whenever he feels like it.
Would I prefer if the parties were as spectacular as years ago? Of course.
[QUOTE=Rondega978;2398152]You're wrong Toni has exactly what he wants, going in Globe and fuck without pay.
He doesn't pay entrance and fuck for free.[/QUOTE]Yes but free sex for him only on stage and every Saturday, 52 times a year. Also two shows minimum during parties too. Is it fun? For me no, I would never do this even if paid. I want to relax in my sessions and want them to be intimate not on a platform. I am not a psycho, nor an exhibitionist or a creep like Toni, a normal guy. If Toni wants to be a stud in life, why he doesn't go to Rocco academy and becomes a pro like Mike Angelo? At least he would be paid to do sex in front of camera!
Rondega are you jealous of him? Then propose yourself to Sunny to replace the pizza boy. I don't get what is your problem wid him. I told you for the club Toni is perfect as a pro stud would ask 1000 to 1500 chf a night.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2398206]I think you really get it based on this posting.
The parties require a lot of preparation and they don't make that great profit for them. They were trying harder earlier, maybe because they wanted to be established as the number 1 FKK in Switzerland. I don't think it really matters for them if there are better clubs in Germany or Austria, Ingo earns enough to buy a new Ferrari or Lamborghini whenever he feels like it.
Would I prefer if the parties were as spectacular as years ago? Of course.[/QUOTE]Globe is number 1 for Zurich which is only a big village, but is it still attractive to make a trip to visit? Freubad north Bern is a more beautiful club with inside and outside swimming pool, garden for Summer where had great sweet time with my fresh natural Romanian on 2 August, a real lucky day. Better foods at Freubad and for 269 versus 375, you can eat and have 1 hour in room, or twice 30 mn. On my 2 visits, more interesting looks at Freubad, on 2 August I could go with 4/5 girls even I went and repeat with same wow, on 22 November I could also go with 4/5 girls when so difficult for me now to find a attractive one at Globe which is not anymore a so attractive club to worth a few hours trip, when I find prettier girls in Germany for much less expensive. On Thursday night, had 1 h30 wow room with a natural fresh Romanian beauty who really wanted to give me pleasure back, for 180 € and I really wish we can repeat to even improve together, I wish to get she will offer me the extra now she knows how I behave, good game to get it, when girls accept to offer for free, this become more interesting. Good point at Globe is I was never asked any extra nor tip, tip I receive is always shower together, had some funny showers with some girls. Globe lost chic and class for me, when this is why I went more than 10 times per year versus only 5 visits on this year. At least, I found again a reason to return, to improve again together.