Cali Reports

You've become quite the expert on Cali after your first trip.

We lose one Colombia know-it-all and he is replaced by another.

All, I just got back from a week in Cali and thought I'd post my experiences.

The spots I hit:

- escoses(sp?)- went at night, left after an hour. Lots of Women, prices were, I believe: 150k for 30 min, 250k for 1 hour. ~ 30 ladies, a few 10s.

- Frescas Flores (fresh flowers) - lots of fine (and "fake") babes, boob jobs etc. most expensive: 200k for 30 min, 300k for 1 hour. Their main offering is a lesbian sex show 2-3 times a night. All the guys were so focused during the show, you probably could have taken their wallets and no one would have noticed! They also charged a cover, about 15k, I believe. Left there early, headed to.

- pharos - crowd from fresh flowers seemed to follow us there. Seemed livelier. about 20 or so girls. You could see the degradation in quality (and prices) compared to fresh flowers. Rooms were less clean. Better "party" atmosphere. The ladies would dance with/for you, seemed more into the clientele. Only place I've seen where there were legitimate "dogs" that worked there.

- Casa de Docto de Amor - yep, liked this place. Closes at 9pm or so. Clean rooms, reasonable prices; about $12.50 (U.S. cost, though paid in pesos) for 30 min.

- Went to a place listed in the forum here. There were 5 girls there, they were sleeping. The manager gave us the name of another place close by. Told us to go there, and come back to his place after 6pm. I don't recall the address/name of the other place. It was a house and only had 5 girls there. But, they were all nice looking and very friendly. price was 70k for 30 minutes, 100k for 1 hour.

- Hit about 3-4 others, don't recall their names.

Restaurants:

- Sol (?) - great fried calimari
- Tizones (sp) - great Italian Food

Couple of other notes;

- We hit Jala Jala, damn the music is loud in these places! We were treated like VIPS. We left to eat, came back an hour later and our booth was held for us, even though the place was packed!

- River Ponces - visited on Sunday, seems like a big hangout for the locals. Not much to see compared to other beaches I've been to worldwide, but something to do.

- Malls - hit Chipe Chape (sp), and Cosmo Centro - interesting places. Great to "girl watch".

- Trying to talk to the ladies on the street was more difficult than I expected. When I'd speak, they just kept focused looking ahead.

Have others noticed this as well?

Same with those walking in the malls. The best shots we had at talking to the locals were: ladies at a bar, ones that worked in the stores/restaurants. Also, if I had a legitimate "ice breaker" question, like "where is so and so place located?" it's be easier to strike up a conversation.

- Also, we were told to be careful talking to ladies that had one or more guys with them as the guys could try to cause trouble. In Jala Jala, there were virtually NO ladies by themselves, or in a group with no guys. So, we were less apt to approach them. Based on what I've read by others, we may have been a bit more paranoid than need be.

- I'm not a fan of Colombian beer, but I could tolerate Brava (and sometimes Poker).

- Getting out of Columbia was an experience! We hit, I'd guess, about 9 "checkpoints". Answered every question you could imagine: "do you have a girlfriend? Why not? Why are you here? One of our group also got a "modern-day cavity search": they x-rayed his stomach, I guess to see if he had swallowed any "contraband".

Overall:

- Had a good time. It's best if you speak some spanish, no question. The people are some of the nicest I've encountered in my travels. We had no problems. When you connect with a Chica the experience is wonderful, usually better, more genuine with a non-pro.

If others are interested in the specific places I mentioned but don't recall, PM me and I'll try and get the details to you.

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[QUOTE=Escort King]Escort King is the screenname I had when I first started on monger boards which were US based... though I soon found WSG et al and have posted there over the years.
Have worked in the adult industry, traveled alot through southeast asia, the pacific when growing up in Australia....
I have been posting in the Colombian threads as it has been a spot I knew I was visiting in the near future.... wanted to develop some online acquaintences that I may have seen while there... and thought the threads were generally friendly... have not been involved in flames... have given my opinion on few things, rather asked questions or praise or jokes....[/QUOTE]


I bear you no ill will and hope you find what you are looking for, though it is my definite opinion you are wading into completely uncharted waters based on what you are used to and also, I hate to be frank, but it´s the likes of you who generally screw up a heretofore friendly developing world P4P environment.

let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.

in other friendly local news, today´s El Pais has the Colombian Minister of Defense saying that FARC after their failures in and around Bogota, has now set their eyes on Cali, but swears the govt will not allow them to establish a foothold here. Perhaps the FARC can blow up the so called Cali Mansion when it´s built

in other news of note, if you´re a calena university student with English skills there are lots of ads for you to make good money (by local standards) by video chatting to idiot extranjeros.

[QUOTE=Catire]For me the youth and beauty cannot quite overcome the assembly line experience, I´d rather have a great session with a willing 6, than a starfish experience with a 9.[/QUOTE]Hi Catire, I agree 1000% with that.

Problem is, how do you know if this 6 is good or not ?

I´ve been looking thru this Cali's board and couldn´t find much information on girls.

Now, imagine you go with a 6 (or 5, or worse) and it goes badly.

You then have a double disillusion.

That's why most people want to have a good looking partner.+

In recent months, I've tried to catch smiling girlS and had good and bad experiences.
Unfortunatly, in Colombia, we don't have a girls's speaking board. (see my precedent post).

Thanks

[QUOTE=Catire]I bear you no ill will and hope you find what you are looking for, though it is my definite opinion you are wading into completely uncharted waters based on what you are used to and also, I hate to be frank, but it´s the likes of you who generally screw up a heretofore friendly developing world P4P environment.

let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.

in other friendly local news, today´s El Pais has the Colombian Minister of Defense saying that FARC after their failures in and around Bogota, has now set their eyes on Cali, but swears the govt will not allow them to establish a foothold here. Perhaps the FARC can blow up the so called Cali Mansion when it´s built

in other news of note, if you´re a calena university student with English skills there are lots of ads for you to make good money (by local standards) by video chatting to idiot extranjeros.[/QUOTE]

mate I was visiting Bali and Thailand 28 years ago.. and I was not an ugly American.... but an Australian having fun... did not grow up in US but a country where p4p is legal....

[QUOTE=Escort King]and I was not an ugly American....but an Australian having fun [/QUOTE]

Aaahhhg! What's the difference? They hate you in Indonesia and they hate us in Latin America. And we both have some paisanos that are loud and obnoxious.

[QUOTE=Tiny 12]Aaahhhg! What's the difference? They hate you in Indonesia and they hate us in Latin America. And we both have some paisanos that are loud and obnoxious.[/QUOTE]

Australians can be loud drunks but few have the we own the natives attitude that some Americans bring with them... like the old vision of third world countries in Disney comics... all canibals and servants

[QUOTE=Catire]
let me guess, your first stop in MDG will be the so called "mansion", created uniquely for your type of ahem "traveler", and typically a bane of destruction for the favorable P4P environment first discovered by travelers in the last decade in these countries.
[/QUOTE]
I was enjoying these offerings in Bali and Thailand long before they became the meccas for the trade... though SE Asia has been in this trade a lot longer than I have been around... the pricing stayed low for a lot of years until the numbers grew to such high numbers that they could start asking more and find enough to pay it... I may not pay the least... but I generally don't overpay - I stick with what has been posted as the going rates and use that as my goal... sometimes I get lower and others if the chica is really hot will pay a little more - especially if she has gotten good reviews by people I trust...

And yes I will make my first stop at the Mansion - best place to hook with others since I am making my trip solo with just a little Spanish.

[QUOTE=Col Bog 1]Hi Catire, I agree 1000% with that.

Problem is, how do you know if this 6 is good or not ?

I´ve been looking thru this Cali's board and couldn´t find much information on girls.

Now, imagine you go with a 6 (or 5, or worse) and it goes badly.

You then have a double disillusion.

That's why most people want to have a good looking partner.+

In recent months, I've tried to catch smiling girlS and had good and bad experiences.
Unfortunatly, in Colombia, we don't have a girls's speaking board. (see my precedent post).

Thanks[/QUOTE]

the thing is in the world of P4P you rarely know (for sure).

that is because in this "line of work" one´s personal problems and moods are reflected more so than in any other profession. She might be in a bad mood, she might be pmsing, she might have had a fight with her bf or her family or god knows what, and this WILL be reflected in her human interaction with YOU.

then of course there is what you bring into the equation, this also changes the calibrations. A john is not like the next john (even among the local masses pining for 20 mins to stick something into a hole). Your looks and your demeanor and personality DO and WILL matter.

then out of that entire mixture, you will get what you get. it´s as simple as that and nothing can really change it.

that is why I take all "rankings", of girls and forums dealing with such with a MOUNTAIN OF SALT. That´s because they are essentially good for nothing and I basically deem them useless ( as well as somewhat demeaning to the girl - perhaps they should be able to write rankings of their johns as well?)

since you claim your looks are a potential problem (or at least not a helping factor) then you must focus on the personality aspect. You can also work on your charm, this is essentially a combination of being a little clever and paying her compliments (without being too obvious) This is perhaps even more important (though it all depends on the girl). Since you talk about the sexycaracas foro, you must speak at least basic Spanish, and actually since that forum is full of Venezuelan slang, (I spent some time living in Caracas) your understanding of it has to be better than beginner I assume?

but that is not going to work with an "escort" and will be difficult with a casa girl.

in your case I would recommend a place like Escoces, which is a clip joint, BUT, can be a lot of fun and lot less of a clip joint if you follow the "Ricker approach" and recommendations which are actually common sense and should be a modus operandi in any such place worldwide.


nortelx, I know what I know and this is a fairly long stay (and I am still here)
when you learn Spanish and have lived and traveled around Latin America as I have come back and talk shit to me. Otherwise, you are of course always entitled to your own opinions.

[QUOTE=Catire]
... in your case I would recommend a place like Escoces, which is a clip joint, BUT, can be a lot of fun and lot less of a clip joint if you follow the "Ricker approach" and recommendations which are actually common sense and should be a modus operandi in any such place worldwide ...


[/QUOTE]

Escoces can be a great place if you can weed through the "tiburones" (sharks) and find the nice sweet chicas; they can be found there.

Sit with a chica, bond with her, make her laugh, pay the multa, I think it's only 40,000 pesos, and take her out. If you can get away with it, don't even talk price with her. If she doesn't talk about money, she probably likes you, obvious good sign :)

That's my Escoces strategy in a nutshell.
Paying 150-200,000 pesos for 30 minutes in-house ... hahaha ... nunca (never).

[QUOTE=Ricker]Escoces can be a great place if you can weed through the "tiburones" (sharks) and find the nice sweet chicas; they can be found there.

Sit with a chica, bond with her, make her laugh, pay the multa, I think it's only 40,000 pesos, and take her out. If you can get away with it, don't even talk price with her. If she doesn't talk about money, she probably likes you, obvious good sign :)

That's my Escoces strategy in a nutshell.
Paying 150-200,000 pesos for 30 minutes in-house ... hahaha ... nunca (never).[/QUOTE]


if you stay until they nearly close, then there is no multa/salida to pay.
most will try to charge you say 200K, or 150 for 2 hours but you can get them for a 100 if she needs it/likes you.

the tiburones are fairly easy to spot.

hey, Ricker, if you´re still here, call me.

btw. quote from Escoces girl the other week about most of her customers.

que tristesa (what sadness). She went on to add some stuff beyond that which I forgot but I was chuckling all night.

She was mostly talking about Americans, and she went on to further categorize them by a certain ethnic background.

Said they have an automated hammer approach to lovemaking and "nunca terminan".

that was funny too.

looks like someone´s been watching too many of the Jake Steed/TTBoy etc Latin porn movies and they think these women actually love being drilled senseless.

Catire, I sent you a PM amigo.

I'll be in Cali again on Thursday :)

[QUOTE=Catire]if you stay until they nearly close, then there is no multa/salida to pay.
most will try to charge you say 200K, or 150 for 2 hours but you can get them for a 100 if she needs it/likes you.

the tiburones are fairly easy to spot.

hey, Ricker, if you´re still here, call me.

btw. quote from Escoces girl the other week about most of her customers.

que tristesa (what sadness). She went on to add some stuff beyond that which I forgot but I was chuckling all night.

She was mostly talking about Americans, and she went on to further categorize them by a certain ethnic background.

Said they have an automated hammer approach to lovemaking and "nunca terminan".

that was funny too.

looks like someone´s been watching too many of the Jake Steed/TTBoy etc Latin porn movies and they think these women actually love being drilled senseless.[/QUOTE]


One thing I have noticed about Latin women - in DR and Mexico - though less in Mexico - they get offended when you don't cum... they always want the leche

Gents,

A week in Cali does a monger good. It also makes for alot of make up reading upon return since I don't bother with the boards while on vacation anymore.

It behooves me to to add a comment on the Cali Reports since I am just back from one of the most successful trips to Cali to date.

I decided to seek out and find new unchartered P4P places and found three new ones that more than satisfied me. One had real hardworking girls giving BBBJ and ball licking as regular service rather than the exception. The other had hot and cold running water (a rarity a P4P places) and the facilities were exceptionally clean and the above average girls surprisingly were not used to seeing a gringos. I had never had girls be so friendly and such a fast pace as well.

I'M SORRY GENTS, but because of the rapid degradation of places I write about by disrespecting *******es, I have reserves about being blatant as to the locations my new found digs. Oh sure anyone else can find them with some due diligence and so they won't remain fairly unknown for long but I don't see the need to bring them to light sooner than not.

However, as anything in life, there are exceptions and since my good friend Ricker mentions that he will returning to Cali soon I will be happy to share the info with him since he did me the same favor once before. So PM me Ricker if think you'll have time to pull yourself away from your novia to thread some new waters.

Ok, I do feel bad that I am not being so open so I will tell you that I also visited a few favorite haunts and also found some top choice chamas.

I still will not be posting in the photo section but I'll share with you here a WILD girl I met at LA Piscina from Armenia. Her name is Melissa.

I didn't even ask Melissa to take her picture before she asked me when she saw I had a camera and she wanted to be shot doing her strip routine. Got some decent video as well.

I decided to try out Melissa and found her to be a lot less energetic than her performance on stage. Still it was a treat to enjoy her large natural breasts and this was the first time I was ever with a girl who had areolas but almost no nipples??? Wow does she have a hot body and cute face to match. She is the closest thing I have found to a Brigitte Bardot look alike.

Again, sorry that I have such reserves about sharing but like I said, the locations will be revealed sooner than later.


Cheers,


Cubanut

Does anybody have any other details?
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'Sexy' Latina site entrepreneur slain By FRANK BAJAK, Associated Press Writer
Sun Apr 1, 1:09 AM ET

BOGOTA, Colombia - An American entrepreneur who introduced foreign men to "young, sexy, exotic and beautiful Latin Women" via the Internet was killed in the western city of Cali by gunmen on a motorcycle, police said Saturday.

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Robert Marshall Vignola, 50, of Hamden, Conn., says on the Web site [url]http://www.latinwomenconnection.com[/url] that he founded the Cali, Colombia-based company in 1999. The site says the company "has assisted hundreds of clients in the search for the Latin Woman of their dreams."

In addition to offering contact with women pictured in bikinis for $20 each, the Web site promoted vacation packages to Cali including a "private tour" accompanied by Vignola for $600 per day plus airfare.

The site also sold a book penned by Vignola entitled "Secrets of Romancing Latin Women." It describes Latin females as "the type of women that make a man's heart race, blood boil and libido accelerate into overdrive."

Vignola was shot and killed Thursday night by two men on a motorcycle while driving to Cali's airport, police said. His 33-year-old Colombian wife, Beatriz Ramos, was hospitalized with bullet wounds in the shoulder.

Cali's police chief, Gen. Alberto Moore, told The Associated Press on Saturday that authorities did not know why he was killed but had ruled out robbery.

Cali, home to Colombia's dominant cocaine cartel in the 1990s, remains among the country's most violent cities.

In addition to the "matrimonial service," Vignola had a casino in Cali that went bankrupt, leaving him with considerable debts, Moore said. "So it's said that possibly people could have been demanding money, and he didn't pay and so they took this reprisal."

Moore said Vignola had financial problems in the United States but said he had no details.

Relatives of Vignola in Connecticut, where according to his personal Web site he practiced law and offered assistance in obtaining mortgages, would not comment.

"We're in mourning right now so please don't bother us," said a man who answered the phone at Vignola's father's home.

A friend of Vignola in Cali who spoke on condition he not be identified said Vignola only visited the city three or four times a year.

The Web site describes Vignola as its "former owner and original founder" and recounts how he met his wife in Colombia after deciding he had "almost no chance of finding the woman of my dreams here in the United States."

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AP Writer Carlos Gonzalez in Bogota contributed to this report.