Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1773291]Thanks for this. I'm gearing up for a 100 day trip from about mid-January to about mid-April. I had been thinking of city-hopping through the following: Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand (skipping Pattaya this time), Cambodia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Macau and the Philippines (including about seven days each in Boracay, Angeles and Puerto Galera this time). Got a tentative plan. Got a preliminary budget. Looking now to refine it and firm it up. Hadn't been thinking of Rio or Medellin but I am going to give Latin America some thought before I settle on a plan. Thanks for this.[/QUOTE]Bill what's the goals or priorities of this trip?

Twice I have taken year long around the world trips in 2011 and 2014 the goals of the trip were 1. Sightseeing 2. Mongering.

For example in Peru I stayed a few days in Lima for mainly Mongering and enjoying the fine restaurants, I then went to Cuzco and Machu Pichu for the incredible sight seeing. While in the Philippines it was 7 days in Angeles to enjoy the ladies and 7 days in Boracay to enjoy the beaches and relax, yes I did monger a couple nights in Boracay but it wasn't my priority those days.

Contrast that with a friend of mine who is currently on a year long round the worlder. He is all about the puss. His trip is 99% Mongering. I'm honestly not sure if we were in Aqaba if he would go to Petra or go and find a seedy brothel. Sightseeing is not his priority at all. When we go to an ice cream joint some of us would choose vanilla others chocolate might be a mint chocolate chip or a butter pecan among us. You need to sit down and write down all the things you want to experience during your 100 day mega trip, look at your budget and then rough draft out a schedule.

Pardon my off-topic query. Too lazy to RTFF or visit Thepprasit. Any place in central pattaya that sells the fresh, uncut fruit?

Thank you in advance, have fun and stay safe.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;1757240]Buddy, I'm going for the first time in August and I am going to be blunt here, you're going to have to put some effort in to the research. Believe me it is well worth it. Going back 10 posts is not going to cut it. Our fellow mongers are super helpful and do an awesome job of putting up some incredibly detailed information, to which I am totally grateful.

[/QUOTE]I think you misunderstood my post. My question had been where can I find LT in Pattaya. The reason I went back 10 posts is because someone had written that if I go back exactly 10 posts before mine, I would find the answer to my question. But the post exactly 10 posts before mine was about a Russian club that charged an incredible amount of money for LT, way past the ripoff stage. So I was responding specifically to that other guy, not to others, and telling him that the post he referred to did not really answer my question.

[QUOTE=HenryR;1773647]I think you misunderstood my post. My question had been where can I find LT in Pattaya. The reason I went back 10 posts is because someone had written that if I go back exactly 10 posts before mine, I would find the answer to my question. But the post exactly 10 posts before mine was about a Russian club that charged an incredible amount of money for LT, way past the ripoff stage. So I was responding specifically to that other guy, not to others, and telling him that the post he referred to did not really answer my question.[/QUOTE]Relax. You can find LT pretty much in all the clubs and bars. I don't have a problem finding it and you shouldn't either.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;1773359]Are you skipping Jakarta? That would be a sin. It's great at many levels (from $10 at the local low end, comfortable $30 midrange, to sky-is-the-limit). The scene is not as open / accessible or foreigner-friendly as in Bangkok, but it may well be larger and better quality. Indonesia (apart from Bali) is a mostly under-explored, yet promising place, perhaps the last remaining mongering frontier. If I had time for a 100-city itinerary, I'd also hit other big cities (like Surabaya or Yogyakarta).

Many of the places on your list are thin when it comes to mongering (e. G. Puerto Galera, Nha Trang), although there could be other reasons to go. If you're into the low-end places, in Thailand there are smaller towns with a local brothel scene like Mahachai or Rayong which might be worth a visit (in place of Udon).

In Malaysia, KL is not without options, especially at the very low end (Brickfields, ACE, Petaling). Typical foreigner-oriented spots (Bukit Bintang, Beach Club) are a bit overpriced, but if you're going for breadth, they should be on the list. Diverse working girl crowd in KL: PRC / Thai / Vietnamese / Indo / ex-SU / Indian. Everything except Malaysians.[/QUOTE]Jakarta is on the list, and you've just bumped up the time I'll spend there. Although I'm anxious to see the country (and the girls) I'm thinking that I may be overinvested in Vietnam. I had been planning to city hop from south to north and spend upwards of two weeks there in total, partly for the beaches (Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue and Ha Long Bay), but I also want to have some fun and it seems like fun might be hard to come by there. I'll look into Mahachai and Rayong, and I might drop Puerto Galera down the batting order. Thanks.

[QUOTE=WildBillLewis;1773743]Jakarta is on the list, and you've just bumped up the time I'll spend there. Although I'm anxious to see the country (and the girls) I'm thinking that I may be overinvested in Vietnam. I had been planning to city hop from south to north and spend upwards of two weeks there in total, partly for the beaches (Nha Trang, the Nang, Hue and Ha Long Bay), but I also want to have some fun and it seems like fun might be hard to come by there. I'll look into Mahachai and Rayong, and I might drop Puerto Galera down the batting order. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Great plan you have there! I have been to Puerto Galera with ex. Phil. Girlfriend and will recommend the place. Very nice for scuba diving and snorkeling. Beautiful scenery and secluded beaches. Sabang village has maybe 6-7 go-go's and I was impressed by the quality of girls. It is small but a highly interesting place were you can have lot's of fun. 3-4 days should be enough. Vietnam is also nice and the girls are super. I would skip Malaysia and go to Pattaya instead. No place. Except Bangkok maybe. Can compete with Pattaya if you are hunting girls! As others point out; your interest for other topics apart from mongering should also be a guide. I also love Singapore and Hong Kong, but the price is much higher. Angeles City is a dump really, but nice girls can be found and the prices are low.

Went in here last night, very busy and big mix of girls, maybe 50-75 approx, 10's down to 2's and without doubt a smattering of LB's. Pole dancing, showering, stage dancing and various stage shows, no pressure to have girl sit with you, and if do virtually anything goes. Good security, drinks standard gogo prices. Bar fine last night was 1000 bhat although 1500 bhat quoted. The 10's 5000 bhat all night leaving at around 15.00 next day.

[QUOTE=Luckyguy7198;1773639]Pardon my off-topic query. Too lazy to RTFF or visit Thepprasit. Any place in central pattaya that sells the fresh, uncut fruit?

Thank you in advance, have fun and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Second Road. Leading into Mike's.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1773379]
I more or less did the trip you are planning last winter.
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I spent about 7 months in Asia total but if you don't park yourself in one city like I did, 100 days should be enough ...[/QUOTE]Jakarta should be included:

It is now on the hit parade and climbing like a rocket.

Bali was not bad. Girls were generally always willing to accept a lower price:

I might scale back the time investment on this one and, for sure, I'll negotiate.

Macau is worth visiting to experience the unbelievable spas there:

I'll stop by for the spa experience.

In the Philippines, my first stop was Manila and Makati:

I was in Manila for two weeks about a year ago and didn't much care for the place.

Boracay:

I was there for a week about a year ago and had a good time. But maybe that was because I brought a girl from Angeles City with me.

Puerto Galera. Never made it:

I am leaning toward switching out Puerto Galera for Cebu.

Spent a week in Palawan. Puerto Princessa, has some girls in the local clubs near the airport, but it's not worth a flight from MNL:

Agreed. I was there about a year ago for a few days. Dull.

The main resort town of El Nido is mainly couples and back / flash packers with a few LB's in the beach bars. Nice place but not for mongering:

Agreed, I finished off my last trip to the Philippines with four days in El Nido; got bitten by two mosquitos and ended up with both malaria and dengue fever.

I went to Vietnam several years ago and had a relatively good time in Saigon though found Hanoi to be sorely lacking:

I'm thinking of scaling back my investment of time in Vietnam from two weeks to one.

Would recommend skipping Cat Ba entirely due to the blustery climate that time of year.

I visited both Kuching and Kina Kinabalu in Borneo. The scene in both cities is very hidden. You won't find FL's generally trolling the streets and most of the action is confined to MP's. Fellow member, Hafni, is a good source for the latter city of KK. There is a great 4 hand massage place there that he can direct you to. Kuching is a nice place but really dead for nightlife:

This surprised me. I am going to have to rethink this aspect of the trip.

The same can be said for Siem Reap. The nightlife is triple weak and the local girls appear to keep a low profile and local contacts are the way to go:

I may skip Siem Reap entirely, or maybe hit there just to see Ankor what.

Phnom Penh, on the other hand, was ridiculously easy to find hot girls:

Very good to know. I'll dial in more Phnom Pehn.

I skipped Sihanoukville due to mediocre reviews on this board:

This really surprised me. Sihanoukville has such a reputation! More research required.

I spent a good part of the trip living in Bangkok. It's the Mecca of everywhere else:

I spent two weeks there two years ago, so I might give it a miss this time.

Visited four islands in the Gulf. Not much to report, which says it all except Ko Samui was not as much fun as I hoped.

I am thinking of adding Hat Yai and Hua Hin to the hit list.

I would certainly add Pattaya to your itinerary. It lives up to its reputation and then some:

I spent four weeks there six months ago. What an awesome place!

Also, went to Penang in Malaysia but was terrible for any girls. Skip it!

Thanks for the counsel.

KL certainly has some interesting venues but the only problem is it's an expensive city.

I am debating this one for sure.

Singapore is not so great these days but maybe someone else with recent experience can comment:

Worth a quick peek, then on to surer things.

Let me close by thanking you and others for this kind of input. I appreciate the fact that it takes time to write something as detailed and as thoughtful as this. It is helping me refine my draft itinerary. Food for thought, and advice leavened with experience: exactly what I need at the planning stage.

[QUOTE=Aviator12;1773874]Great plan you have there! I have been to Puerto Galera and will recommend the place. Very nice for scuba diving and snorkeling. Beautiful scenery and secluded beaches. Sabang village has maybe 6-7 go-go's and I was impressed by the quality of girls.

I would skip Malaysia and go to Pattaya instead. No place, except Bangkok maybe, can compete with Pattaya if you are hunting girls!
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the comments on Puerto Galera. I am debating whether to go there or go to Cebu.

As for Pattaya, I spent 28 days in Pattaya in February of 2015. The hunting was very good indeed. I chronicled it day by day (see 28 Days in Pattaya).

[QUOTE=China35;1773875]Went in here last night, very busy and big mix of girls, maybe 50-75 approx, 10's down to 2's and without doubt a smattering of LB's. Pole dancing, showering, stage dancing and various stage shows, no pressure to have girl sit with you, and if do virtually anything goes. Good security, drinks standard gogo prices. Bar fine last night was 1000 bhat although 1500 bhat quoted. The 10's 5000 bhat all night leaving at around 15.00 next day.[/QUOTE]Where is UptoYou? The name didn't ring a bell so I just google'd it and found nothing. Are you talking about What's Up?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1774139]Where is UptoYou? The name didn't ring a bell so I just google'd it and found nothing. Are you talking about What's Up?[/QUOTE]Yes, it must be this one, sorry, its off walking street.

Some great looking girls, but I wouldn't pay these prices and have no need to, although this is what was paid by one from the group I was with.

[QUOTE=China35;1774175]Yes, it must be this one, sorry, its off walking street.

Some great looking girls, but I wouldn't pay these prices and have no need to, although this is what was paid by one from the group I was with.[/QUOTE]What's Up is an extremely high priced club (and generally crowded as well), with some great looking girls, and a few whales in the bathing areas (PL do you remember? Haha). They also put up some choreographed shows on stage, one time I remember them taking a couch onto the stage for a particular erotic dance performance.

I won't bar fine from here (and they typically won't go below 1500 baht BF before midnight in any case), but won't mind a drink, and some viewing pleasures.

P.s. There is an Up to You Bar (not a Go-Go) on soi 6 but nowhere close to WS and quality is variable.

[QUOTE=ActionOriented;1774190]What's Up is an extremely high priced club (and generally crowded as well), with some great looking girls, and a few whales in the bathing areas (PL do you remember? Haha). They also put up some choreographed shows on stage, one time I remember them taking a couch onto the stage for a particular erotic dance performance.

I won't bar fine from here (and they typically won't go below 1500 baht BF before midnight in any case), but won't mind a drink, and some viewing pleasures.

P.s. There is an Up to You Bar (not a Go-Go) on soi 6 but nowhere close to WS and quality is variable.[/QUOTE]100% what's up after this description whales in shower. Check choreographed shows. Check. High bar fine. Check. Sofa brought onto stage. Ahemm check.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1773335]Looks like me and Soldier share the same top 4. Seven days mongering in Puerto Galera and Boracay will not work. I have not been to Boracay, but have been to Puerto Galera and can tell you that they are both "bring your own girl" places.

Batam is a day trip from Singapore, crossing the bay on a 45 minute boat ride. Nothing there either.

Most people think wow Bali, but when I show them pictures of the beach they are like ugh, not what I pictured.

Vietnam is probably the nicest place I have been. Went to Nha Trang: nice sunny place again with not much to do. The Nang was okay but HCMC and Hanoi were great.

Best thing I have ever seen on this planet: the temples in Siam Reap (2nd: Machu Picchu, 3rd: Pyramids at Giza). PP is good for a couple of days.

Hong Kong: nothing to really do there but probably the most people that I have ever seen in my life (along with Tokyo). Just a sea of people moving and crossing the street.

Malaysia: wouldn't touch that place with a 10 foot pole[/QUOTE]Two years ago, when I was last in the Philippines, I "took sand" to Boracay and ended up enjoying it, but I was struck by the paucity of freelancers. Others have suggested that I consider switching Puerto Galera for Cebu and I'm starting to lean that way.

I was disappointed to hear about the difficulties to be expected in Batam. Bali is not racking up rave reviews from mongers either; sounds like another place where, if possible, one should "bring sand". Pity.

I appreciate your favorable comments on Vietnam. Very few others have commented at all. I was expecting Vietnam to be thin from a mongering perspective, but I am interested in see the country so I'll keep it on the hit list but likely downgrade the amount of time I spend there.

I also appreciate your comments on Siem Reap / Ankor what. I'll stop there with high expectations for the temples and low expectations for mongering (based on the feedback of others).

Thanks for the warning about Malaysia. I can't do this trip and not go there, but I can downscale the time I was planning to spend there.

I have received really helpful input from you and about 7 or 8 others, all of which will help me refine my plans.