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[QUOTE=Daddy07;1266912]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?[/QUOTE]Who cares. You get to live out your geriatric years in Pattaya on your prole's pension because birth accident put you in a place that takes care of its bottom-feeders. Just enjoy yourself.
Spending the last day of a four day business trip here in Bangkok. Here's a run down of a few places I visited:
There's a decent looking massage place on Suk between the JW Marriott and Nana. I stopped in one night just looking for a good massage. I picked something like a 900 baht scrub massage package. The line up (all sitting down by the window at the entrance) wasn't anything special, so I picked one of the ones with better demeanor. Half way through the massage, she asked me if I wanted anything extra, and once I said no, she started complaining, and this went non-stop until the end. Initially, I was annoyed, but after a while I just stopped noticing her bickering. I would not go back.
Sazanka on Thong Lor soi 6 remains one of my favorites, and I stop by there to have the Sazanka massage at least once every time I am in Bangkok. This time was no exception, and as always, I was not disappointed. Koi was who I had this time, and I would highly recommend.
One night looking for Mango, I came across this Japanese looking massage parlor in that area (I don't remember the name). I was presented with an album of girls many of whom looked very good. I picked 'guitar', and as we were going to the room, the receptionist said the whole FS package costs 1, 500 Baht. Once in I easily negotiated down to a lower price, although I don't remember how much, probably 1, 200. Guitar was very nice looking and very accommodating. I would go back.
Earlier I had stopped by BKK48. There were a number of very nice looking girls on the menu which showed one hour at 1, 900 Baht. I remembered having gone there a year and a half ago, before it was called BKK48 and the new nice storefront, and it cost a lot less. I passed. Does anyone else have any recent experience at this place? Was I getting the gringo menu this time? I don't know.
I also visited Akane. This was my second time there. My first Akane experience, although not bad, was nothing to remember. This time, I got there late, and had a choice of two girls, neither very attractive. I picked the one who was smiling. She was very accommodating and willing to please in any way. I was glad I picked her. Unfortunately I don't remember her name.
Digits
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1266835]Sir you said you were going to stop the non sex chat. You really have no clue sir! You prolly think Obama isn't a socialist. THIs is not my line but it is classic-Obama s problem is how to govern as a socialist while not admitting to being one. I really do the the majority of americans have figgured this out (EXCEPT YOU). THe 2010 elections was all about Obama. If he could have been voted out then he would have been.
Health care and education would prosper in the free market-what are you talking about?
Ps I don't think goat is as much a commie as he is a dunce (couldn't use stronger word. LOL).[/QUOTE]There is nothing wrong with socialist ideas and nothing wrong with the free market? The reality is that America has many forms of socialism the problem now is that those in the Free market believe it only exist for them. Look at our tax system it is laced from beginning to end with socialistic deductions! The Free market say America has the highest tax rate and say that is Obama fault but he has kept Bush tax rates and if it is so high why didn't G. E. Pay any taxes? Why because of all the socialist tax deductions.
Now as the elections is coming both parties talk about Entitlements like we average people invented and cause the overrun of these programs. The same politicians who are running for President spend time in the system in Congress or Senate since the Reagan years. Played along all these years collecting their own Entitlements taking " one for the team " as Santoran quotes and created many of the problems we have with our social programs today! The original concept of many of these programs were well intended like Social Security, which by the way like many of you put into, just like you put into a 401K plan now because they used all the money and put in a useless I. O. U. To pay for all the wars it is my fault that it is broke! Now they are labeling guys like me a Entitlement generation. If I live beyond the years they projected for Social Security it is my fault! Politician being so goddame smart should have figure that out? I'm not asking for the world I just want what I put in is that too much to ask. It's amazing how these politician say the Government can't run anything when they have been voted in to run the government all these years and have the nerve or Entitlement to get before a camera and say something to that affect!
Starting in the 70's we had a oil problem today after 40 years we have a oil problem. Twenty years every politician knew the health problem and cost was coming and today guess what we have a problem but nothing was done because each and everyday Lobbyist are park outside these politician office making sure nothing is done! Now because they don't like Obamacare, they talk about Constitution, Free Market will take care of the problem while allowing insurance company sell across State lines, Tax credits, Health saving accounts etc. Well how Free has it been since prices continue to rise, you can't sell across State line because companies lobbyist are park right outside making sure it doesn't happen. How is the average guy going to save for a Health Saving account when they don't make enough or don't have a job. What is a tax credit going to do if you can't pay for the high cost of health insurance from the offset while your tax credit comes at the end of the year. And to give you back a tax credit from the governent that is complaining they are broke and isn't that socialism?
It took 2 years to get Obamacare pass and the politician since his election in 2008/2012 continue to complain that we can't afford it and let the free market take care of it? Politician complain about Canada / British / Europe about the bad the health program but if they are so smart and great why can't American politician create and come up with a health program that everyone likes and want to join that addresses, high medical cost, allows help for more young people to want to be doctors, addresses the drugs overcharges and reforms in every area so that instead of complaining or being scared of socialize medicine actually do something about it instead of talking against it and taking money from lobbyist to make sure the status quote exist.
The same morons that claim we can't afford it and that we as Americans feel entitled to these program give millions and billions to country throughout the world who don't like us and want to kill us. Countries year after year get their Entitlements for no oversight but when I want to collect my Social Security it is now a Entitlement? The money they gave to China to reseach how smoking affects the Chinese could take care years of Social Security or Medicare for Americans for years?
The big picture is many Americans don't get it because they have been drawn into the politician game " of divide and conquer " They got us all fighting and calling each other names while they continue their B. S. And lies to keep their own Entitlements! The big losers are us! Instead of complaining and asking what other countries has this or that the question we should ask is why if America is so great and our politician know exactly what is wrong with other countries program why haven't we come up with a comprehensive program that everyone likes? There isn't anything wrong with socialism or free market but neither has taken care of the problem up to now? As long as our politician are allow to blow hot air we are heading down the same road as the problem with oil.
To end, the economy and politics have everything to do with mongering it affects my bottom line as to where to go and how much to pay.
LBM
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1266912]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?[/QUOTE]Hey Daddy!
Somewhere up there in cowboy heaven, John Wayne is looking down and has a big smile!
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan; 1266977]There is nothing wrong with socialist ideas and nothing wrong with the free market? (snip)
To end, the economy and politics have everything to do with mongering it affects my bottom line as to where to go and how much to pay.[/QUOTE]Amen.
Maybe they, the powers that be (whomever they be) , can come up with an affordable voucher system for P4P sexual services.
That would make it a lot easier on us old guys. ;)
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1266912]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?[/QUOTE]Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1267012]Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.[/QUOTE]
Not even Australia has a "free market" healthcare.
As found in: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Australia[/url]
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Health care in Australia is provided by both private and government institutions. The Minister for Health and Ageing, currently Tanya Plibersek, administers national health policy, elements of which (such as the operation of hospitals) are overseen by individual states.
In Australia the current system, known as Medicare, was instituted in 1984. It coexists with a private health system. Medicare is funded partly by a 1. 5% income tax levy (with exceptions for low-income earners) , but mostly out of general revenue. An additional levy of 1% is imposed on high-income earners without private health insurance. As well as Medicare, there is a separate Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme that considerably subsidises a range of prescription medications. In 2007-08, Australia spent 9. 1% of GDP on health care, or A$4874 per capita.
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Unless there is a levy on "better off" people, it is impossible to have universal healthcare. None of the private insurance companies will "solidarize" their income to help the poor and the "bad" risks will not find insurance for any reasonable price.
Wait until you get a heart condition or a chronic disease and see how fast your insurance company either drops you or increases your rates. See, if you can then still laud the benefits of the free market.
[QUOTE=Daddy07;1266912]Can you name one country where ANYTHING worthwhile is available and affordable to everyone and where everyone is prospering in a commie environment?[/QUOTE]Again, we are not talking about communism here. I can only think of two states that would be considered "communist" in this day and age, North Korea and Cuba. The rest of the world's govs are a blend of market capitalism and socialistic elements. Social Security is a "socialist" construct as well. Using the word "commie" sounds quite 1950s Red Scarish. It is really not a valid term in this discussion as we are not talking about gov ownership of the means of production.
The issue is how to provide the best health care outcomes we can with minimal cost to a large population. Most of the developed world uses a blend of public and private to deliver this care. A blending of these two elements seems to give the best outcomes and tends to be more cost efficient for all involved. Of course commons sense and statistics will tell you this. The US has poorer outcomes and a lower lifespan than most countries with fully developed public systems. One of the reasons is that most public systems stress primary care and prevention as one way to take the burden off the system. In the US this is not seen as people put off going to the Dr until they are VERY ill due to costs. Also a marketing costs and profits are not seen with the admin end of a public system either. In the US Medicare's admin costs are 15, well below that of private insurance companies. The more you spend on admin costs, the less you see going towards patient care.
This is not a matter of "free market" vs "commie (the term in 2012 still makes me laugh)," it is about outcomes and cost and looking at systems in developed countries around the world, the US comes in at the bottom of the list. It is time to look at see what works and emulate it, not try to force in a system based on some silly dogma.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo;1267012]Australia and healthcare to the first part of your question, and I don't know any commie environment where everyone is prospering (or capatilist for that matter) for the second part of your question.[/QUOTE]And believe it or not, health care outcomes in Cuba tend to be amazing. More Drs per-capita than anyplace else in the world.
Hi,
Visited Poseidon Friday, only 8 WG left in fish bowl due to Songkran, mostly from Issan. Below is my mongering report:
Name : Dunno.
Boob : C Cup.
Height : 4'11"
Duration : 2 hours.
Attractiveness : 7/10.
BJ : 5/10.
HJ :/10 enthuaistic.
Rimming : None given, dunno how to ask. Cannot speak Thai.
GFE : 6/10.
Overall : 6/10.
Cost : 2500 baht up front, plus 100baht for the ice latte she ordered.
Remark : constantly pestering for tip.
Choose WG from fish bowl, they sat under pink light which make them more alluring. The fish bowl at second floor, battleground on 6th floor. Once in room, she switch on warm water for bath tub 4 ft x 8 ft. Man sit with leg spread on her lap, she use hand / boob to massage little brother. She wash everywhere from toe to neck. The back washing and massage is nice.
After bath dried up and proceed to bed. Start with leg, nipple, armpit, ball licking. Then BJ and cow girl, end with missionary. There are still 30 minutes after the deed, so she massage me again for the remaining 30 minutes.
Pussy loose for such a small lady. Apart from the constant request fro tips, overall good experience.
Macrot out
[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1267034]Again, we are not talking about communism here. I can only think of two states that would be considered "communist" in this day and age, North Korea and Cuba. The rest of the world's govs are a blend of market capitalism and socialistic elements. Social Security is a "socialist" construct as well. Using the word "commie" sounds quite 1950s Red Scarish. It is really not a valid term in this discussion as we are not talking about gov ownership of the means of production.
The issue is how to provide the best health care outcomes we can with minimal cost to a large population. Most of the developed world uses a blend of public and private to deliver this care. A blending of these two elements seems to give the best outcomes and tends to be more cost efficient for all involved. Of course commons sense and statistics will tell you this. The US has poorer outcomes and a lower lifespan than most countries with fully developed public systems. One of the reasons is that most public systems stress primary care and prevention as one way to take the burden off the system. In the US this is not seen as people put off going to the Dr until they are VERY ill due to costs. Also a marketing costs and profits are not seen with the admin end of a public system either. In the US Medicare's admin costs are 15, well below that of private insurance companies. The more you spend on admin costs, the less you see going towards patient care.
This is not a matter of "free market" vs "commie (the term in 2012 still makes me laugh)," it is about outcomes and cost and looking at systems in developed countries around the world, the US comes in at the bottom of the list. It is time to look at see what works and emulate it, not try to force in a system based on some silly dogma.[/QUOTE]Goatscrot,
Easy on the King of Jomtien! You got to know that Daddy07 is from the Joe MacCarthy era plus he is from the Midwest! Until a few years ago he thought we Asian all look alike too? He use to go to work with a Tin Can cowboy hat and a pair of snake skin booths? Each greeting went like this Howdy Daddy!
See many Americans put off health care because they take this attitude that it is a free world and its my body! Don't want anyone or the country to tell them what to do! My older brother was such a person today he lays in a military long term hospital with throat and lung cancer waiting to die given up! Two years ago his doctor at the Veterans hospital suggested he go and have a check and it was free all he had to do was go in the next room and if he had done that things would certainly be different instead he said why " fix something that isn't broken ". Today I'm sure he thinks about that day?
LBM / Howdy!
Milk the tit, military lifers. The most entitlement bunch there is, when the entitlement is all for themselves. And, they're anti-communist, too. Without irony.
Hi, BJ here (again!)
I had a business meeting recently and the person I was meeting insisted on meeting at Spanky's in Nana (odd place to try and discuss business I know but that's what they wanted). There is a fine young lady there who I met in the Pattaya branch when I was down there for a Christmas party back in December. On that occasion the demon alcohol caught me out and as soon as the condom went on it was all over. I have taken her out of Nana a few times which has made the rest of the girls very reluctant to entertain me, I'm sure most of you are familiar with this phenomenon. No need to panic if I fancy a change I'm not exactly bereft of choice for other bars.
The discussions were wrapped up in about an hour and the lady in question had ceased dancing when I went in and had been grinning next to me the whole time (in case anyone is under the misconception I'm on some kind of peter string-fellow swaray again, name dropping myself everywhere I go, the lady has no idea who I am or what I do. In fact I prefer to remain anonymous as much as possible). Something I have learned from other business owners and through my own experiences.
The lady is, IMO, very good looking, although may not appeal to all. She is about 5 feet 2' tall has a sort of dyed blonde bob hair cut, enhanced breasts which look fabulous all the same, a tiny waist and a fabulous arse, other aspects which are fabulous and some other fabulous things about her. Did I remember to mention I think she is fabulous? Do not panic the good doctor is not about to get married and move to Chiang Mai with a fabulous young lady named Tic.
After getting back to my place and showering. I was reminded of the only down side to her, she does not do BBBJ she insists on a condom being used. However the compensating determination in her technique does make up for the condom being used, added to this I never try to strongly persuade / bribe these girls into doing anything they are not comfortable with. As some will remember I always start with the lady on top to get me warmed up and I have to say she was no star fish, she was very enthusiastic. Doggy was the next one and I grabbed her buttocks and pushed them apart until the red tea towel holder was winking up at me. I was in full swing now and smashed her for a good 5 minutes. At my age I was a bit tired by now so I whipped her over and united her ankles with her ears. She increased her moaning, real or not was not a paramount concern for me. A few minutes later and I blew my load, NICE!
To my horror when I took my wallet out I was 200 short. I really couldn't be bothered putting clothes on and going to an ATM so I promised her I would drop it off the following evening, because It wasn't the first time I had taken her out she agreed, kissed me on the cheek and told me I was very good (yeah, yeah I bet I'm the first guy you said that too). True to my word I went back to the bar and paid the lady what I owed her plus a tip at 8:30 as agreed. I had to hurry out of the bar as I was expecting a call from a nice young lady who had come up to stay with me for the three days I decided to take off work. Sure enough as soon as I walked out of the Plaza my phone rang and I took a deep breath and arranged to meet this lady in the beer Garden in Soi 7. I am planning to go to Pattaya for Songkram and will be meeting up with her so will post my experiences in due course.
In short Spanky's is a great bar which I highly recommend to everyone and Tik is a fantastic lady who I would urge anyone to try out (she has 4 tattoo's on her upper back area, see front of post for other identifying features).
Regards BJ
Where's a good place to take a lady for 10-30 minutes or so of DFK? Apart from one's hotel room or a ST hotel. But a bar, restaurant, outdoor location, etc, that is fairly dark and / or private.
Could this attract the attention of the kissing police? Is it illegal or just frowned upon in BKK? Would a P4P TG be too shy to do this in public? Maybe a poorly lit spot in NEP, Soi Cowboy or Giotto's lodge? Or a taxi cab or limo?